Hi
I just got my Desire HD today, and got all itchy to start customizing it away, but I have a couple of questions first. Coming from HD2 here, which I mostly used with Android.
Unfortunately my DHD came with the new OTA, but I can see from the other forum that downgrading is not a problem anymore.
I'm concerned with two issues, mainly. First, I don't want to lose the advantages of the 1.72 update - I can see a lot of complaints about battery for example, while my battery seems to be just perfect. My question is, if I downgrade to 1.32, then root it, will I be able to get (through a custom ROM?) the advantages of 1.72? If so, which ROM are you using?
Also, I read somewhere (Go ahead and tell me if I've been misinformed) that people still don't have all the correct drivers for the GPU part (graphics) of the DHD processor. Is that true, and will I lose performance on that part with a custom ROM right now?
Thanks in advance for your reply, and I'm glad to be now part of this community
best,
shpatar.
When you downgrade there are a fe options for u upgrading to 1.72 again while retaining root. The key thing here is to either use a custom rom or flash only the system partition of the stock rom. Leedroid seems to be the most often recommended custom rom and he is indeed a very good developer.
The main battery savings are to be had from the new radio which again can be flashed without losing root.
I would start by reading the guides on downgrading and getting radio s-off and hboot s-off.
People will be happy to help if you get stuck but no one wants to repeat information which is already laid out in the guides.
With regards to the gpu there is no issue. What you have been reading about is that leedroid wants to play with the kernel to see if he can improve gpu performance even more. There is nothing wrong with performance now though.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Thanks mate, I'm going to downgrade right now and see what happens. Cheers
As mentioned by dr.m0x: the LeeDrOid rom is one you will see mentioned often when asked for a custom rom including the 1.72 update.
Also (as mentioned partially as well)....one of the key things (going forward) you want to know about is radio s-off, which will let you flash...well...just about anything...
Although now you may not see the use of it....before the 1.72 downgrade option, if you had radio s-off you would feel comfortable
Welcome to this community....it is a great place indeed and you'll see that the devs are quick in replying and other users are quick in responding as well....
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Hi All,
long time reader, 1st time poster,
i have switched from the nexus to the desire, and i have seen lots and lots of diffrent roms for the desire, so i was wondering if i may ask your assistance in locating the best one?
which rom most people prefer ?
what advantages does X rom have over X rom ?
i currently have a desire running 2.2 froyo if there is anyone else switching which could suggest a good switch ?
Hi,
I'm fairly new to this whole rooting business myself and certainly not an expert on advising which is is the 'best'. A lot would depend on your needs and preferences. For my use, however, I found the ROM at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
to be very stable and to my liking. It is virtually the same as an OTA update of Froyo, except it is rooted and has some miner modifications.
Read a lot and try different Roms; I'm sure you'll find one to your liking and needs.
Hi Mag,
Thanks for your advice, it sounds like a nice easy starting mod,
btw how did you root the phone to start with ?
i have tried the current REVOked client but that seems to fail each time.
so i was debating sitting back and waiting for REVOkeds new 3.2.1 client to be released for download.
Here is what I did with my very limited knowlage about rooting:
1. I made my working sd card into a 'gold card'. Not sure if that was necessary or not, but it couldn't hurt.
2. I downgraded from OTA froyo to the 2.1 version.
3. Then rooted my phone using Unrevoked3.
After that I was able to update to any rom using clockworks recovery only.
Everything went very smoothly for me without any hickups.
You can find all the needed details about the individual procedures above, on this great site. Search and you will find .
Hope this is of some help.
Mag
PS.: Unrevoked at, http://unrevoked.com/#inc, is suposedly working on a new version that is able to root Froyo without having to dowgrade to 2.1 first.
Unrevoked's rooting solution is already out for the Desire FYI
Here is the link for it
http://unrevoked.com/
Be advised that they have removed the current version because it had some issues with the Evo 4G but the older 3.2 is still up and flawless for the Desire.
Unrevoked Desire
Sadly I had major driver issues with my current PC and couldnt root my phone as of yet.. but will do it in a couple of days when i get my new PC So I cant provide feedback as of yet... But the Wiki page of Unrevoked has pretty much everything covered up for you
Hope I helped a little
yeah the current version means you need to downgrade to 2.1. but id rather go straight into rooting, than mess about with downgrading 1st.
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
When you flash a custom ROM, you will no longer get the automatic updates OTA. Either you will have to revert to the stock ROM for the update, or the ROM developer will have to incorporate the OTA update changes into the ROM.
There are a few ROMs that attempt to give you a plain vanilla Android experience. But in my opinion, Cyanogen is one of the best mixes of plain Android with lots of extra features.
Okay that makes sense, I'm currently using a villian rom with no sense, is it worth my while installing cyanogen? and if so will i go with RC4 of wait for the stable release?
jakbjak said:
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
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Well, the reason for many semi-bricks from trying to downgrade to original stock rom pre- or post-OTA was the fact that hboot was hacked, and not truly "S-OFF." If you search the dev section you will find the S-OFF, SIM unlock, SuperCID guide that will give you true S-OFF. I recommend reading that--it helped elucidate why semi-bricks were showing up. Once this is done, it should be easy to flash a rooted, stock ROM when the OTAs start showing up and get the update that way, or just wait for it appear in the forums (which is usually sooner than the OTA gets pushed out, anyhow).
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
jakbjak said:
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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Yes, the previous S-OFF was via an engineering version of HBOOT, which was set to report S-OFF. But the security setting is actually held in the radio, and was still S-ON.
The new, "true" S-OFF (via gfree) is a lot safer than the old method, e.g. much less prone to a brick if you flash the wrong thing (e.g. an older RUU than the ROM you're running).
Hi
I have a desire hd and it won't upgrade to Gingerbread. I have it nearly a year and everytime I try the Software update, it says there's no updates found. It is still on version 2.2. I've sent it back to HTC for another hardware issue and they didn't upgrade it either even though I asked them too.
So could someone recommend how I can do this myself? My phone isn't rooted, and I'm a bit of a noob so any advice would be appreciated.
Also, I'm not sure what ROM I need?
Thanks,
jondom
I'd suggest you to root your phone. then you can upgrade it as often as you want to
furthermore you can use CyanogenMod 7, which is stock android 2.3, if you want to
you said, that you are still on android 2.2. I assume that you have the 1.32.x.x firmware? if so, it's quite easy to root and put a custom rom on it, because you don't have to downgrade.
No one no matter what version needs to downgrade any longer. I really cant believe how many people are still advising people to downgrade. Most of the downgrade methods don't work or are unsupported.
Click here. AAHK does everything you need to start installing custom roms. Its 1 click and if it stuffs up attn1 and the rest of the guys at #liberatedAria are always there to help. They've saved my ass afew times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
And, In future post your questions in the Q&A section. You don't want to piss the mods off
It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd
If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!
I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?
Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...
Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.
Good day, guys.
I recently bought a HTC Desire Eye (eye_tuhl) and I was wondering if I should update the phone first to Marshmallow before rooting it? I read through the development threads and it seems that people have difficulty with regard to the Marshmallow firmware. I am planning to flash S.ROM and the patch after rooting.
Also, after rooting, which ROMs are available for flashing for my variant, if I'm going to stay S-ON? I read that some ROMs have problems with S-ON phones. I also wanted to confirm that the Minis Reloaded Kernel also works in S-ON, provided that it will be flashed using a PC and is used with a ported ROM from M8.
I am sorry if the questions seem redundant, I got confused with the whole variant/firmware/S-ON snafu coming from devices which were relatively easy to understand (HTC Sensation, Xperia ZR)
Thank you very much in advance.
jamesmalit3 said:
Good day, guys.
I recently bought a HTC Desire Eye (eye_tuhl) and I was wondering if I should update the phone first to Marshmallow before rooting it? I read through the development threads and it seems that people have difficulty with regard to the Marshmallow firmware. I am planning to flash S.ROM and the patch after rooting.
Also, after rooting, which ROMs are available for flashing for my variant, if I'm going to stay S-ON? I read that some ROMs have problems with S-ON phones. I also wanted to confirm that the Minis Reloaded Kernel also works in S-ON, provided that it will be flashed using a PC and is used with a ported ROM from M8.
I am sorry if the questions seem redundant, I got confused with the whole variant/firmware/S-ON snafu coming from devices which were relatively easy to understand (HTC Sensation, Xperia ZR)
Thank you very much in advance.
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Its a long time since I flashed new ROM on my Desire, so I'm not sure about some info (already forget a lot), sorry for that.
But here is it
1) You can't update your firmware to custom one with S-On phone, only using OTA or RUU. But you may need to do that.
(for every Android version you need correct firmware)
2) Some people had problems with installing kernels on S-On devices also.
3) Even if you succed with flashing ROM, you may have problems with it. For example, enormous battery drain (I've this, it was just horrible), mobile data not working, NFC, etc.
So, i think the best way in this situation is OTA.
Please, correct me if i'm wrong.