Related
Seeing an iPhone 4 of a friends the other day next to his 3g was quite funny. The so called amazing resolution screen just looked brighter, more colourful and a tiny bit sharper.
It's funny, before I got my Desire I had an iPhone 3g and I was amazed by it once it got updated to 3.0 firmware. Once jailbroke I could customize the way it looked immensely which is something that a lot of people who use these forums say you can't do. Anyway, my contract was up and being impatient I couldn't hold on for the iPhone 4.0. I'll be honest, I really wanted it but a release date wasn't announced. So I went for the Desire. First thoughts we're, great phone, brilliant screen, very fast, widgets are pretty cool, easy to use, coming from iPhone. Then after a few weeks of enjoying it, the iPhone 4 release date was announced. Then I wanted an iPhone again it looked amazing, all the hype was mental. But I just signed a new contract so there was no way of me getting one. My friend had ordered one and it arrived the other day at work. I didn't get to use it but from what I saw, its not much different visually (display) from the iPhone 3g and its practically the same as the 3g, apart from the cameras,speed,multitasking and obviously a few more things.
So basically what I'm trying to say is. It's no way near as good as the Desire, to use and to look at as far as I'm concerned. Seriously the Desire is a way better phone. The camera doesn't matter its good enough and multitasking on the iPhone is just the worst thing I've ever seen its really poor just the way it actually works. It's terrible.
Not much of a review but just something to stop the arguing and give advice when deciding what phone you want. That's if your choosing out of these two.
p.s
I typed this in landscape on my desire with no problems at all. :
Bloke at work brought his new iPhone in and how we laughed as I got him to 'hold' it and the signal strength went down and then dropped.
Android FTW
sbdags said:
Bloke at work brought his new iPhone in and how we laughed as I got him to 'hold' it and the signal strength went down and then dropped.
Android FTW
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I heard about that as wyell. its something to do with the metal surrounding on the iPhone is the antenna. Haha. Unfortunately my Desire doesn't have a metal surrounding.
;-)
Just been playing with my dads iphone 4 , and laughed at apples version of multitasking!
Played angry birds, then went into calender and back again, to see the game started all again!
So i just had to do it with another game on my phone, to show how proper multi tasking works! Straight back into the game where i left off !
Have a laugh.....a good one
Link: http://vimeo.com/12858526
Haha! brilliant!
http://www.blogcdn.com/chinese.engadget.com/media/2010/06/untitled24.png
LOL
Fanboyism aside, the iPhone 4 does bring some awesome things to the table, like an amazing camera & camcorder and.. well, that's it. Still, it beats any Android smartphone in that department, hands down.
This chap claims not to have noticed the signal drop whilst he is making calls......
a phone primary function is to make calls ... got to hold your iphone4 in the right way so that you can make calls ... now that is another revolution to the mobile industry
Well, actually, for pictures, the Desire's camera is just as good. Yeah Apple wants to make you believe they have something special, but they really don't. It's just a 5 megapixel camera like everyone else uses (except for the 8 megapixel ones in some other Androids).
I've looked at lots and lots of pictures of both phones, including direct comparison shots, and the Desire's camera is actually the exact same (for pictures, not video).
The software handles some things differently, like the sharpening (I recommend everyone to set sharpness to +1 on the Desire), the pictures look a bit less washed but also lack more detail. But those are just small differences caused by different software and the iPhone certainly doesn't do it better (just a bit differently).
What I actually wanted to say, I HATE when Apple gets credit for doing what others have done for years, like 5 megapixel cameras and video calling. And most of the time, they're not even doing it better and often they're doing it worse (like multitasking or that antenna design, which has been invented by HTC and actually works with HTC phones, without dropping calls).
I got my first android phone yesterday, the Desire and damn it's smooth. I always heard that iPhone apparently has the better keyboard, but the Desire blows my iPod touch away.
I love it and have done nothing but geek my phone today, hail HTC!!
Invisible Elf said:
I got my first android phone yesterday, the Desire and damn it's smooth. I always heard that iPhone apparently has the better keyboard, but the Desire blows my iPod touch away.
I love it and have done nothing but geek my phone today, hail HTC!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to the world of Android Elf... it's a great place to live
I don't want to be a jerk or attack anyone, but there is some stuff in this thread that I just need to comment on.
I am surrounded by relatively smart people. Many psychologists also. What the original poster is doing is the following: you don't want to feel bad about your purchase (the Desire) so you blindly attack the iPhone 4. I am NOT saying the HTC Desire is bad. But I am pretty sure that what you are doing here is trying to make fun of the iPhone 4 to make yourself feel better about the Desire.
I did this as well. I bought the HTC HD2 just before the Nexus One was announced and I was like: 'aaah... the HD2 is much better. That Android is almost the same as WM. Aaah.. I don't need amoled screens..' etc. All just to hide the fact that I maybe should have waited an bought the Nexus One.
Anyway, what you are saying is not true. The iPhone 4 is pretty good. In fact, if I could trade my HTC Desire for a iPhone 4 I would do it. And I absolutely love the Desire. But I don't fool myself, I know that the iPhone 4 is better. Let me just give you a few examples:
Appstore. Biggest and best on the iPhone. Facebook is the best on the iPhone. Shazam is the best on the iPhone. Every app is usually the best on the iPhone. Developers see the iPhone as their number one, which is very important.
Games. I choose to wright a separate part about this even though it could have fitted with Appstore. You want games on your phone? Then iPhone 4 is without doubt the BEST choice. Highest resolution display + A4 chip (1GHz) + Gyroscope (or whatever that is called. Check out what the Gyroscope does.. its very nice for games). And off course the best titles. The Android Market fails in the games category compared to the Apple Appstore.
Camera. The iPhone 4 has one of the best camera's on any mobile phone. It's only 5 megapixels, but it takes very good pictures. And the HD recording is again, the best out there. At a smooth 30fps with great adios quality its top notch. With iMovie you can even edit all that stuff on your iPhone..
Build quality. Even though I have not held the new iPhone myself, every review goes the same. The build quality is unbelievable. It will make almost any smartphone to date feel cheap. And I can understand that.. it just looks and feels amazing. At 9.3mm thin it's just a very good looking phone.
Facetime. Now I suddenly realised something a few days ago. This may sound dramatic but try to take it seriously. Apple is helping humankind to the next step. Why? Soon many, many people (normal people, kids, grandparents, mothers, everybody) will go from voice calling to video calling. And yes its because of the iPhone 4. They just make it easy to use and it works well. Try to be totally honest with yourself and think about this. It's true. Videocalling may have existed, but it was crap. That's why it never reached the mainstream.
Battery life. The new iPhone should have a very decent battery life. This happens to be one of the areas where the Desire .. sucks.
So.. I know it is hard but try to be honest regarding these things. Yes I have a Desire myself and no I won't be able to buy that new iPhone for at least a year (and by then, the next one should come out). But I am honest regarding those things.
Oh, and the dude trying to attack the iPhone on the 'bad multitasking'. Angry birds (one of my favorite games ever! ) has probably not been updated to multitasking yet. Remember, the developers must update their apps to work. So again, its a bad argument against the iPhone. Though I won't disagree with the fact that if you want the ultimate multitasking, you are better off with the Desire.
Conclusion: Enjoy your Desire without attacking other phones please. Be a grown up.
Come on...
XDA mark said:
I don't want to be a jerk or attack anyone, but there is some stuff in this thread that I just need to comment on.
I am surrounded by relatively smart people. Many psychologists also. What the original poster is doing is the following: you don't want to feel bad about your purchase (the Desire) so you blindly attack the iPhone 4. I am NOT saying the HTC Desire is bad. But I am pretty sure that what you are doing here is trying to make fun of the iPhone 4 to make yourself feel better about the Desire.
(...)
Conclusion: Enjoy your Desire without attacking other phones please. Be a grown up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now I have not posted in this thread, but really.. Come on...
Why do you think that the people you surround yourself with, describes or adds something to you or your arguments? In this case, I could claim that you could be inside a mental asylum (for being surrounded with psychologists) .
But seriously, "blindly attack"? Where have you been? Its been proved on many iPhones that you can't even hold the iPhone 4 properly without losing your network-connection. The multi-tasking is horrible according to reviewers and other people that tested it. And Steve Jobs email is frakking horrific, but not unexpected.
Since when is this blind attacks? Sure the phone-build, camera, and some software is great, but still no other device would be spared ridicule if the errors is as great as the iPhone 4's. It will be scrutinized and by all means, it deserves the ridicule it to this point have (not)received, lol.
UPDATE: Just for the lolz http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4...-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band?skyline=true&s=i
Best camera on any phone???
U must be smoking something there ha ha ha
Have you even seen pix from some of the 8MP camera fones out there, not to mention 12MP fones around the corner.
Yes Apple have more apps then Android, that dont mean they all better.
Games are the ONLY advantage apple has.
The build quality may also be good BUT whats the point when the main function of a MOBILE PHONE which is to make phone calls goes away when you hold your phone a certain way.
I mean come on, your paying £500 for your IPhone 4, you should not be TOLD how to hold it in order to make phone calls. You should be able to hold it how u like and still not loose signal like all other phones out there.
XDA mark said:
Anyway, what you are saying is not true. The iPhone 4 is pretty good.
Appstore. How long has iPhone appstore been.out compared to android market?
Games. Correct games are better on iphone 4 but a couple hours of gaming and bye bye battery. That's why they made the ps3. And there isn't a noticeable difference in display quality against the Desire I've looked at both together and there equally as good, what ever it says on paper.
Camera. The iPhone 4 has one of the best camera's on any mobile phone. It seriously isn't one of the best. Picture quality is same as Desire if not a tiny bit better. You win on video recording but I think in future the Desire will perform the same after an update. I'm sure with the hardware its got it can eventually record at 720p 30fps. You'll see.
Build quality. I agree apple always have an excellent build quality and that's where you're wallet gets emptied.
Facetime. Trust me your not gonna use this. U might at first but eventually you wont. I mean come on how gay is video calling. Hearing a voice is suffice.
Battery life. The new iPhone should have a very decent battery life. This happens to be one of the areas where the Desire .. sucks. Wrong my friend's last about the same as desire according to him. He has both phones.
So.. I know it is hard but try to be honest regarding these things. Yes I have a Desire myself and no I won't be able to buy that new iPhone for at least a year (and by then, the next one should come out). But I am honest regarding those things.
"I can't believe you're arguing when it sounds like u haven't even used the iphone 4."
Oh, and the dude trying to attack the iPhone on the 'bad multitasking'. I won't disagree with the fact that if you want the ultimate multitasking, you are better off with the Desire
"That makes more sense"
Conclusion: Stop sticking up for apple when you haven't even used an iphone 4. I have and it is certainly not overall better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Be a grown up" gayest insult of the year award.
I wont quote you one the beginning, I would only say that is not true (that we say Desire is better because we bought it).
I didn't get Desire on contract, I paid it in cash. That means I had the money to buy any phone I like (overall anyone, when we take the fact that I paid for the Desire 500 euro). I knew exactly why I want the Desire. I knew it's features, it's positive and negative sides. I liked the look of Sense (instead of jailbreaking my phone just so I can change my wallpaper, this happen in previous models of iPhone), I liked the OS and it's openness, and I liked it's look. In fact, I liked everything about Desire, and I think that this will be the phone I will have for longest (in case it doesn't break). I know this because with my previous phones, I lost the will to play with them after 3-4 days after purchase. With the Desire is completely different: my work is suffering because I keep doing something on it all the time, and I have it for 3 weeks
I mean, there are so many thing to do with it, sky is the limit (and the knowledge of members here, which I believe is wide and big as the sky).
Anyway, lets go back to some points you made with which I completely disagree (okay, my whole post is disagreement with yours, but still )
XDA mark said:
Appstore. Biggest and best on the iPhone. Facebook is the best on the iPhone. Shazam is the best on the iPhone. Every app is usually the best on the iPhone. Developers see the iPhone as their number one, which is very important.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That CAN (and will, I guess) change. On the Google IO, google announced 50.000 apps on the market. When was that, a month ago? Today there are over 65.000. That is 15.000 apps in a month. At this rate, there will be 150.000 more apps in the Market in the next 10 months.
But, I hope and expect this rate to change when I'll take in mind how fast people (developers) are turning toward Android.
Don't make me start at the attitude of Apple toward developers.
By the way, developers develop for public. If there are users of Android more then of iOS, they will start developing for Android. Sc**w that fine program if nobody uses it. So their primary motive to do something is "how many people will use their app?".
Apple has more apps, but I bet that will change. In 2 years, there were 50.000 apps in the market. BUT, in just 1 month, there were 15.000 more. Just one month, read that carefully. That shows to me that something is drastically changing.
XDA mark said:
Games. I choose to wright a separate part about this even though it could have fitted with Appstore. You want games on your phone? Then iPhone 4 is without doubt the BEST choice. Highest resolution display + A4 chip (1GHz) + Gyroscope (or whatever that is called. Check out what the Gyroscope does.. its very nice for games). And off course the best titles. The Android Market fails in the games category compared to the Apple Appstore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My same reply from above goes to the games. I will only add something here: At CPU side they may be the same (although there are comments that apple have underclocked the iPhone CPU at something like 700MHz... and we have OVERclocked ours at 1.2GHz ).
Concerning the resolution... it's not that of a big deal. The screen is smaller then of Desire, so that makes the resolution lose. Unless you watch your iPhone 4 display with microscope, then you would notice the more pixels on the iPhone. Otherwise, the naked eye doesn't need more pixels on such small space.
XDA mark said:
Camera. The iPhone 4 has one of the best camera's on any mobile phone. It's only 5 megapixels, but it takes very good pictures. And the HD recording is again, the best out there. At a smooth 30fps with great adios quality its top notch. With iMovie you can even edit all that stuff on your iPhone..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have never (ever, trust me) chosen a phone because of it's camera, so I am lost here. I don't know who takes better pictures or videos.
XDA mark said:
Build quality. Even though I have not held the new iPhone myself, every review goes the same. The build quality is unbelievable. It will make almost any smartphone to date feel cheap. And I can understand that.. it just looks and feels amazing. At 9.3mm thin it's just a very good looking phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably, I can only guess. But what about that same build breaking easy and that same build causing such a big issue with network connectivity?
It's not just build something. Are you aware that in order for you to have decent connectivity, you will have to cover your nice looking iPhone? What's the point?
When we talk abous build quality, we have to take the strength (which sucks, on the second drop the screen dies, on the forth drop the glass is broken) and the looks (which again sucks, because the network sucks if you don't cover it with rubber, and if you do that, it's not good looking anymore).
XDA mark said:
Facetime.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't even want to start about this. I will only say: if those grandparents, parents, children... wanted to see eachother, why didn't they use video calls over 3G? That technology exists for over 5 years, and I have never used it (except for one time, to test with a friend what does it do in fact). Or Fring? Or whatever other app that exists there for video calls?
XDA mark said:
Battery life. The new iPhone should have a very decent battery life. This happens to be one of the areas where the Desire .. sucks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you look at both phones specs (I have), you will notice that on paper they have VERY similar battery specs. And still, your opinion about the Desire battery life comes from experience, but for the iPhone comes from reading? That is rather unfair :/
Just lets wait and see how iPhone will do in real life situations. My wife charge her iPhone 3GS twice in a day. She has to, her battery goes flat at noon. My battery lasts 2 days, with very big usage (I said above, I can't put my Desire of my hands). iWin
XDA mark said:
Conclusion: Enjoy your Desire without attacking other phones please. Be a grown up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, and I would add: and share your experiences and thoughts. That is why forums are made.
EDIT: Wow, this post is so long now ))
Surely face time isn't a winner with it only being on wifi I've had nokia n97 and samsung Omnia both had forward facing cameras i used then both zero times, ok grannies wanting to see grandchilden i get that but i sure as hell don't want to see your ugly mug or the wifes... or my mates.. ok if your away for a while it would be nice to see the face of a family but iphone4 only? and wifi only?...
More megapixels don't make a nice photo, the lense and sensor are probably more important, i would find it hard to believe that the iphone4 isn't better in this catagory, low light shots with the desire are super grainy and striped = bad sensor.
Iphone4 looks very nice right up until you touch it then it's lovely lux black look is greasy finger tastic!
edit: so you have to hold it around the edge... oh wait!
I just have to say a few things in reply to XDA Mark... Psychologists aside :]
Appstore: Really??? Have you taken a look at the quality of apps in there? 80% are duplicates of other apps, 10% are original in their design and 10% are games. Coming from an iPod Touch 2g, I have to say i found all the apps that I need to be productive on a phone in 1% of the time it took me to find them on the ipod just because i didn't have to sift through 1 gazillion useless knock-offs. And then i found some more!
Whoever said MORE apps means BETTER apps??? Yes, there are lots of awesome apps in Appstore but i have not found anything that apps in Android Market can't do and can't do better! And widgets - oh, "non-denominational super-being", I love widgets.
Build quality: Sorry, but after a certain point this is subjective! And you haven't even held it yourself! I find my Desire to have a superb build quality - try to disprove that.
Games: What are we - 12? Do we need silly little 3D games on a 3.4inch screen. That's just laughable. Whoever thought gaming without physical buttons is kewl?! With the current state of haptic feedback this is the most inorganic and crappy method of control. My thumbs take about 35% of the screen of a 3.4inch ipod touch - good luck trying to play like that. My point is - games matter for iPad/tablets. For a phone - i am content with tower defense and sudoku! For Mass Effect 2 I have my HD 5870 and an overclocked i7-920 at home thank you very much.
/rant
What I'm curious to know is, has anyone found a good 10" tablet that has ask the features of the Dinc minus the phone?
Google pulls up a bunch and people leave reviews but none of those I'd trust as much as I would as much as I'd trust from xda testers. Need for work cause the web app is a pain on this small screen as the keyboard takes up most of the screen. cheap would be nice but understand good cost more. Also need all sensors with camera as I also use dishpointer pro almost daily.
Yep, large Dinc without phone... Recommend something to the confused...
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Incredible using XDA app.
Just wait, better tables are coming within the next 2 months (Moto Xoom, LG G-Slate, Samaung Tab 2 possibly). They will all have upgraded processors, some have 3D cameras, higher resolution, and best of all, Honeycomb (Android 3.0)
Kewl, will hold off a bit.
Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Incredible using XDA app.
BenHolliday said:
What I'm curious to know is, has anyone found a good 10" tablet that has ask the features of the Dinc minus the phone?
Google pulls up a bunch and people leave reviews but none of those I'd trust as much as I would as much as I'd trust from xda testers. Need for work cause the web app is a pain on this small screen as the keyboard takes up most of the screen. cheap would be nice but understand good cost more. Also need all sensors with camera as I also use dishpointer pro almost daily.
Yep, large Dinc without phone... Recommend something to the confused...
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Incredible using XDA app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah i'm holding of on this too, there are so many tablets that are coming out soon (soon as in until summer) so it will worth the wait. Not to mention that prices will also go down, paying $600-700 for a tablet right now is not really a good value to me at least.
unreal2k said:
Yeah i'm holding of on this too, there are so many tablets that are coming out soon (soon as in until summer) so it will worth the wait. Not to mention that prices will also go down, paying $600-700 for a tablet right now is not really a good value to me at least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Shoot, seeing some for under 200 on net now.
BenHolliday said:
Shoot, seeing some for under 200 on net now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bear in mind "you get what you pay for." Remember that our phones cost like $600 without a contract; the tablets that will be worth the money are going to be upwards of $500. The Galaxy Tab is $500 right now subsidized by Verizon.
Jes7er said:
Bear in mind "you get what you pay for." Remember that our phones cost like $600 without a contract; the tablets that will be worth the money are going to be upwards of $500. The Galaxy Tab is $500 right now subsidized by Verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, seeing that the tablets with wireless 3g are up there in price. Wanting one without the 3g so that I don't have to extend or pay an additional fee to add it to our cell plan. Using Wireless Tether would be just fine...
If this was a 10" I'd love to have it:
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-500-In...OC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1296695107&sr=8-15
Would be awesome... Really camera would be optional as I can use phone for Dishpointer Pro..
BenHolliday said:
Yeah, seeing that the tablets with wireless 3g are up there in price. Wanting one without the 3g so that I don't have to extend or pay an additional fee to add it to our cell plan. Using Wireless Tether would be just fine...
If this was a 10" I'd love to have it:
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-500-In...OC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1296695107&sr=8-15
Would be awesome... Really camera would be optional as I can use phone for Dishpointer Pro..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest those Archos tablets aren't that bad at all. Quite good for what you pay for them. A guy I worked with a couple years back had one, really nice.
Dude, like you I have been waiting for an amazing tablet to along with my Incredible. I was totally sold on the XOOM (and still am) but $699 is too steep for me. I know that people will be saying that it is better than the $499 iPad because of more features and whatnot, but if Moto wants to make a name for itself in the tablet world and take the crown from Apple, it should release it for $499-$599 with the features it has. That way it will sell like hotcakes!
Anyway, since the XOOM is too expensive, I just learned about the Viewsonic gTablet last week and have fallen in love with it! 10.1" screen, Tegra 2, 512MB ram, 16GB internal memory, microSD, WiFi N, 1.3MP front camera and USB 2.0 for input!!! the price for this baby is only $379. I have been spending hours reading all the threads in the forums and people LOVE it. The actual software it comes with sucks, but there are very good stable roms out there for it, even a stock android 2.2 The hardware on the tablet are amazing! The devs on here are amazing and I am sure someone will be able to get a fully functional Gingerbread rom on that in due time.
If price for the XOOM is an issue then go for the gTablet. Very similar specs with the exception of 3G/4G data radio. Which most people do not want, including me.
See-Through Tablets
WoW this is awsome and could hit the market in 2012. I hope its true.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/this-could-be-big-abc-news/see-tablets-2012-144516380.html
yeah completely invisible internals are soooooo possible.
I seriously doubt that....
bwhahahaha... if we see something like that in our lifetimes that will be a miracle.
iSaint said:
I seriously doubt that....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you ever watch Star Trek The Next Generation when it was out? The idea of computers the size of a book was a futuristic idea. It was an idea that was considered 300 years in the future. Now we have tablets that are even more advanced than those in the show.
The military is now testing invisible armor
Purdue is testing nano-technology for cloaking devices
MIT is working on a tractor beam using light technology
We have cell phones that are more powerful than the computers used to power the space shuttle to the moon circa 1969
Even the play station 3 has the computing power of super computers from 1997.
Technology improves at incredible rates. I would be shocked if we don't have see through and flexible tablets inside of 10 years and maybe even 5.
I want what you are smoking... did you not see the holographic display and the entire thing was transparent and flexible?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEHp15Hoo0
nubsors said:
Did you ever watch Star Trek The Next Generation when it was out? The idea of computers the size of a book was a futuristic idea. It was an idea that was considered 300 years in the future. Now we have tablets that are even more advanced than those in the show.
The military is now testing invisible armor
Purdue is testing nano-technology for cloaking devices
MIT is working on a tractor beam using light technology
We have cell phones that are more powerful than the computers used to power the space shuttle to the moon circa 1969
Even the play station 3 has the computing power of super computers from 1997.
Technology improves at incredible rates. I would be shocked if we don't have see through and flexible tablets inside of 10 years and maybe even 5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe flexible but not see through... How's that even possible????
iSaint said:
I believe flexible but not see through... How's that even possible????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the real see through AMOLED screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6YQiKmDWpI&feature=relmfu
Anyone ever work for Boeing? After seeing the stuff that goes in and out of there anything seems possible. Whether or not it would make it to a commercial market is another story. But there are things being built that I only thought existed in movies lol
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
lkctd8 said:
Anyone ever work for Boeing? After seeing the stuff that goes in and out of there anything seems possible. Whether or not it would make it to a commercial market is another story. But there are things being built that I only thought existed in movies lol
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Boeing is great and all but the real magic is at Skunk Works. Anything is basically possible. Electronics are advancing so fast these days it won't be long before we are wowed with another break through phone tech.
Mandado from my E4GT
eao1991 said:
Boeing is great and all but the real magic is at Skunk Works. Anything is basically possible. Electronics are advancing so fast these days it won't be long before we are wowed with another break through phone tech.
Mandado from my E4GT
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Skunk Works is so far ahead and they are great about keeping quiet about what they have as well
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
JohnCorleone said:
Skunk Works is so far ahead and they are great about keeping quiet about what they have as well
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...maybe samsung's next phone will be designed by boeing...>,>
While the commercial seems to be an exaggeration it will most definitely be commercial produced within the next 5-10 years.
Invisible internals? While I'm sure they can minimize the visibility of such things what I think most likely to happen is there will be a 'hand grip' or such where all of the unhideables will be hidden...mostly the battery. The motherboards for these devices is already insanely tiny and only 1 or 2 more process shrinks and super-integration of all of the disparate circuits could reduce the entire motherboard to a chip the size of an SD card.
The flexible invisible screen already exists...and it's AMOLED.
The battery is going to be the hard part...though perhaps we're not thinking 'out of the box' enough IRT batteries. I know there is lots of work going on in the polymer-battery area...flexible, semi-flexible or formless liquid batteries? Who knows....but...we will see it.
This is no flying car...these are consumer electronics. These megalith companies have a vested interest in making the stuff they just sold you yesterday completely obsolete by today to take more of your money tomorrow. That's their incentive. That's why Apple will sit on a phone for a year...they also make money on the back-end in the app store. Samsung makes money on the hardware, that's why there's so much of it.
I see nothing compelling of current gen, next gen or even rumored next-next gen Androids/smart phones. My phone is pretty damn fast and thin and has a huge screen...aside from radio upgrades, storage upgrades and processor upgrades...which we really don't need yet, we are way ahead in that department....I want something as amazing as a flexible see through phone. Going from a Lotus to a Moment was amazing, going from the Hero to the Evo4G was amazing....Going from the Evo to Evo3D was, umm, incremental? Slightly? Evo3g-NS4G to ET4g? It was cool, it is the superior phone for certain, but...amazing? Not anymore.
Bring on the transparent holographic liquid-polymer see-through battery invisible electronic 4D 5G LTE-A² ultra-phones. I'm getting bored, lol.
Gomenkiyo said:
...maybe samsung's next phone will be designed by boeing...>,>
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe it's already in the works
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk
I saw a preview some where online that a japaneese company has a thin plastic film stuff that did just what this describes in this video. I totally beleive it. Ovbiously the internals arnt see through but the diaplay could be. It was shocking when i saw the preview demo a year or so ago
Edit- it was slightly like the videos posted in page one. I posted beford i read it all to see if there were videos
Honestly, some people here have no imagination. The internals, for example, don't need to be see through, they just have to be smaller and clustered to a certain edge of the device and be covered by something black so it looks like a design. The rest can be clear. Done!
You guys need to balance out some logic with imagination, you will then see how close these things are to actually being in production.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
i would totally trade in my tab 10.1 for one of these.
cnstarz said:
yeah completely invisible internals are soooooo possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahahaha
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Will it have CM9? If not, I'll pass.
Well, for the apparently small number of us that care, you can now pre order the Optimus on sprints website. I just placed an order for mine. Super happy to be ditching my Evo 3D. Now hopefully we can get some people together to crack the boot loader.
I just saw that you can get it for 149 on wire fly with a two year contract but I bought mine full price from Sprint. No contract for me.
just ordered mine from wirefly
are we supposed to be getting the phone on the 10th or 12th?
the 11th falls on a sunday
No idea...hopefully the 10th.
ncfastls1 said:
No idea...hopefully the 10th.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sprint's site suggests that it should come before the 11th "Pre-order: Order online today! We'll charge your card for your phone and do our best to get it to you before others get a glimpse on Sunday, November 11."
Wirefly says that they are shipping them on November 11.
I'd rather save the $50 and order from Wirefly. What's 3-4 more days when you've waited 2 years?
Where's the white one??
Ordered mine from Sprint today in hopes that I receive it on the 10th, maybe even the 9th...
If LG doesn't unlock the bootloader, will it be hard for devs to unlock it themselves? Considering that i has the same hardware as the Nexus 4.
why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..
fresh_TD said:
why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Come close in what? It has a faster processor and arguably better screen along with being a little smaller. Probably a better camera (more mp anyway on the sprint version), more solid build quality... i feel like i'm forgetting something.
you guys are crazy...
Rocket_Science said:
Come close in what? It has a faster processor and arguably better screen along with being a little smaller. Probably a better camera (more mp anyway on the sprint version), more solid build quality... i feel like i'm forgetting something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
fresh_TD said:
LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this phone is such crap, then why are you even posting in here? Go back to your gs3 sub forum if you have nothing to contribute
ncfastls1 said:
If this phone is such crap, then why are you even posting in here? Go back to your gs3 sub forum if you have nothing to contribute
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
fresh_TD said:
why get this phone over the GS3 or the GN2??? just curious, the Optimus G don't even come close to the GS3/GN2..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fresh_TD said:
LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fresh_TD said:
OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fresh_TD
Senior Member
Last Activity: Today 07:56 PM
Current Activity: Viewing Thread Optimus G pre order page is up!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obvious troll is obvious.
fresh_TD said:
LOL..its made by LG, enough said.. faster processor??, not noticeable to the naked eye.. and the camera is crap even though it has more megapixels.. you can't replace the battery and no microSD expansion slot, it only comes wit ICS out the box with the hopes of an update to JB.. date is unknown, thats if you guys even get an update to JB.. no Sbeam,Smemo,Multi tasking..need I say more?? you might as well get an Iphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uh yes it is. Every review compares it to the Galaxy S3 and says it is considerably faster, which you can literally see. Also, yes, I do concede that LG has made some bad phones in the past, but so did HTC before the nexus one and Samsung before the Galaxy S (the behold and moment were awful). Reviewers said this could be the rise of LG and I happen to agree. Great looking hardware, great screen, amazing processor, top of the line specs. It doesn't need gimmicky features like sbeam which require people to have the same phone (how many people do you know with an S3? If they don't have one, that feature is moot). Camera, I don't really care about, but reviewers said it is about on par with the One X and GS3. The date for JB isn't exact but they said Q4 and if I remember correctly, lg has been more accurate with their software promises than Samsung, who promised my device Gingerbread in July of last year, but didn't even roll it out until November. Smemo, who cares? And the Optimus has a very similar feature, I forget the name of it, but they've shown how in many situations, like in a call, you can press a button and write down a phone number or address for example. Multitasking is more or less the same. The recent apps UI is the same, unlike HTC's, and it also has Qslide, which is similar to pop up play, but you can adjust the transparency and opacity with a slider so you can decide which window you want to be able to see more clearly. No microsd is a bummer, but so is pentile and terrible cheap plastic build quality.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2
Xboxfan, you said everything I didn't want to type haha.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
ncfastls1 said:
Xboxfan, you said everything I didn't want to type haha.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
fresh_TD said:
OP, Im just trying to save you from wasting money on a device like this:good:..Ill just leave this with you guys....enjoy!!!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the link. It just made my buying decision easier. Especially this part:
"...As it stands, this is the fastest Android phone we've tested. According to our benchmarks, performance can sometimes be almost double that of phones like the Galaxy S III..."
pjsnyc said:
Thanks for the link. It just made my buying decision easier. Especially this part:
"...As it stands, this is the fastest Android phone we've tested. According to our benchmarks, performance can sometimes be almost double that of phones like the Galaxy S III..."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know right lol way to post a link to an overall positive review.
Cool!
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
Whoever gets their tracking number first should post the date of expected delivery so the rest of us know ASAP! I feel like a kid at Christmas, but in all fairness I've grown tired of getting my Epic refurb'ed and it has become very unstable and constantly reboots itself.(Gets worse after every hard reset so no fixing it =/)
Please use this thread for upgrade and or other device discussion.
Be respectful of others in doing so, Thanks!
Naddict said:
Please use this thread for upgrade and or other device discussion.
Be respectful of others in doing so, Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
Skipjacks said:
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meh.. Its not great, but it's okay. You would never see me wearing one. I do, however, have my eyes on the Note 3. I own the s4 currently, but have always had a slight desire for the Note. I wasn't too sure about holding that monster up to my ear, but now that I have converted myself to only using a Bluetooth, I think I might JUMP (pun intended) on it.
Introducing the iPhone 5S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIWez9HAbA
Skipjacks said:
So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I already have a Samsung smart watch... I pull it out of my pocket, press the button on the top-right, and I can see what time it is. Among other things it also makes phone calls, records video, and is quite adept at just generally being pretty awesome. :laugh:
I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!
Instead of a smart watch, i would rather a Star Trek style communicator badge.
The Note 3 does look like a decent upgrade from the N7000.
One thing i would like to see in a smartphone is a digital radio receiver, rather than (or in addition to) FM. I know digital radio isn't as ubiquitous as FM - and the standard varies from place to place (DAB+ here in Australia, iirc). But it would be pretty neat, and certainly innovative.
Mad_Technologist said:
I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see your point....but on the flip side...its like a **** Tracy watch!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!
elesbb said:
I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.
I'd rather wait for Colin Farell's (Total Recall movie) cellphone on the palm of his hand.
KillaHurtz said:
Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So that means it will never work on the T-Mobile GS4 since they don't know how to update us
im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing
TheAtheistOtaku said:
im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The note 3 is quite large but the s pen is pretty cool I must admit!
Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk 2
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it comes in colors now! No one ever thought of that before! Except you know...every accessories manufacturer who sells colorful cases for every phone ever made
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.
Saturny said:
Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually that's prolly the only good thing about it. It's processor. It's 64 bit architecture. But still only dual core? Really apple lol. And skipJack's, the different colors are a HUGE step for apologize, let them have their parade
Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk 2
elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.
CitrixLemon said:
I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
---------- Post added at 09:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 PM ----------
hisself said:
I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention a camera that actually focuses on the subject in the frame, and stays focused until it actually takes the picture.