Or have the the devs gone onto greener pastures?
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It takes time and patience, both for the devs trying to crack the safe, and for the people that want the goods. The devs can either spend time posting everything that didn't work or they can spend time thinking of and trying other tricks. I prefer progress over frequent status reports.
You can also watch the Incredible S forums as it's very possible if they find a hack first that it will work for the Incredible 2.
The more we ask like little kids on a car ride with mom and dad, the less harder they are going to work for us. Devs HATE ETA. let me repeat this, THEY HATE IT!!! When/ IF full unlock root comes it will most likely first be in the hands of raskal and the XTC clip, thats perm root but we need a software root like the Thunderbolt, and trust me when I say this, every DEV wants to be the one to crack it. Give it time, enjoy the phone for what it is, or if you're like me and still have your inc1/old phone go do some root things on that to hold you over, 2.1 ROMs and becoming very stable with 3.0 additions over on inc1. Just imagine what root will be like on this phone.
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The more we ask like little kids on a car ride with mom and dad, the less harder they are going to work for us. Devs HATE ETA. let me repeat this, THEY HATE IT!!! When/ IF full unlock root comes it will most likely first be in the hands of raskal and the XTC clip, thats perm root but we need a software root like the Thunderbolt, and trust me when I say this, every DEV wants to be the one to crack it. Give it time, enjoy the phone for what it is, or if you're like me and still have your inc1/old phone go do some root things on that to hold you over, 2.1 ROMs and becoming very stable with 3.0 additions over on inc1. Just imagine what root will be like on this phone.
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Well said!
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Moved to proper forum.
I'm a noob, so this may not go over well. Many people are seeking to upgrade their phones soon, like myself. I have a Dinc that is rooted and loaded with roms that are backed up. Rooting and romming is now a way of life for me, and I really am considering the Dinc II.
However, when you go through long periods of not hearing anything at all (especially for a relatively new phone as the DincII), it makes you wonder if you should pass, or upgrade to something you may not really want as much, but is rootable.
To all the Devs out there that work hard, myself and others really appreciate your hard work with no certainty of a payoff. From what it looks like to me is that many seeking updates do ask in very respectful ways if this, or certain other phones are "lost causes" or not. I know I check periodically and try to be as patient ass I can be. I believe that most others are too.
Exactly! I'm thankful for the work they're doing, but it's hard to keep the faith when there is silence.
My hope is that the DincS work can be repurposed and that this is a lot of sturm und drang over nothing!
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I know I'm not then norm, but I figure I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway:
When and if permaroot becomes available for this phone, that's great. If it never does, I'm still content knowing that I have a great phone, and I can temp root to do the few things I need to do.
I admit, sometimes I miss the old days of working with custom ROM's and such, but this is such a great phone to me that other than removing bloat, I don't think it needs much.
Any which way I look at it, I'm very thankful to the devs who are working on this phone...they have a patience and skill that I will never have.
I have to agree. I held off on getting mine because I was hoping it would get rooted. But after I found temp root and was able to remove the bloat, its been a fantastic phone so far.
Yeah, perm root would be nice but I can definitely live without it of I have to.
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If you're considering a new phone, have a relatively recent phone, and are willing to wait, I'd highly recommend waiting. It's possible permroot is months away. I know it took quite a long time on the Eris (several months).
Besides, if you have an Incredible, the I2 isn't that much of an upgrade for you. I went from an Eris to the I2 and it is leaps and bounds better. However, going from I1 to I2 you get a slightly bigger screen and a better graphics accelerator and that's it.
If you really must get the I2, and you must have root, proceed with the knowledge that IF it gets rooted, it may be some time away.
However, going from I1 to I2 you get a slightly bigger screen and a better graphics accelerator and that's it.
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Quite a difference from Gen 1 Snapdragon to Gen 2... Oh, and FFC is different as well. That to me is a nice feature that I really would like. And there are reports of much better battery life between Dinc 1 and Dinc 2
The difference between Gen1 Snapdragon and Gen2 Snapdragon is going from Adreno 200 to Adreno 205 GPU. The Adreno 205 is quite a bit better, but still behind the curve compared to, for example, the current Hummingbird SOC (when I played with a Charge at the VZW store, it got double the framerate on graphics related tests). The core CPU is still the same between the two devices.
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Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh
I believe it's all about marketing. Big Red feels the X is the closest competition to the Evo. I agree, the Dinc is the best out there right now. as far as changing kernals...the vast majority of Dinc owners are not rooted and flashing a different kernal is not an option.
Look at this forum. Most people are rootedl
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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
Its all marketing. Motorla pays more then htc so they get more. Htc will promote big again when they launch another device for verizon most likely.
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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
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Found XDA after finding something in the Market I wanted. It said for "Rooted User" and being 1 of the 10 that had no clue I Googled and found this wonderful place.
Still have a ton of learning to do but hoping to get to a level of knowledge where most XDA'rs are at.
The DInc came out at a really bad time, in my opinion
It came out a few months before th Droid X, so it seems Verizon was too busy advertising their new upcoming Moto Droid phone, plus the Droid 2 was about to come out a few months after that
Just seems they had, in their eyes, more "important" phones on the horizon.
I never saw any adds leading up to he release of the DInc, but saw tons leading up to the X
I guess they see the X and D2 as more "true" successor's to their original Droid baby
Because the phone is 9 months old and I think the shortages it had really limited its numbers.
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Yeah, I got mine in July. There was a 1-2 month wait and the X was coming out by the week's end. Blogs couldn't stop raving about it. It was going to be my last resort. I frantically scoured the net and thankfully found an Incredible at Amazon. Right look, right size, and right specs. Best phone decision ever. The life on this thing is unreal!
I was counting down the days to the Incredible release, waiting for either it or the N1 to be released first. Honestly, I only wish they released it sooner and I'm thankful that there are so many developers working on making it better.
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Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh
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You want to know the funniest thing? I had a HTC Eris that I LOVED. My one year old threw it in the toilet (no app for that), so I had to wait for my upgrade. Went to Wal-Mart and picked up a D1 for $50. 1 Week later, wifey and I are shopping, and I see that they now have the DInc for.... wait for it...
$28. I scrambled to find my boxes, manuals, and receipt. They have a 30 day return policy. BOOM HEADSHOT.
I am now the proud owner of a Dinc running UD 2.5 and incredikernel #21 (sp). I honestly feel like I stole it from Wal-Mart.
I feel like I have my ERIS back, except it took steroids and became a Marine.
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That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.
You gotta be ****tn me
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That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.
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you wont understand until how much more potential your phone has until you actually start playing it. ive been rooted since the day i got my phone (it was the first thing i did after i activated it). was a little scared to do it at first but have no regrets. rooting this phone is as simple as plugging your phone into a computer now and opening an app with a 99.9% chance nothing will go wrong. back when i rooted my phone being scared to root it was understandable as you had to mess with multiple things to get it to work. it actually took me about 6 hours to do it (had to pop in and out the sd card at an exact time) but now its a piece of cake. you really should open yourself up to rooting which will give you access to all the work of these wonderful developers at xda. im ensuring you that you wont be disappointed. with all that said hopefully you will allow your dinc to operate at its fullest potential!
I rooted with no regrets. I specifically bought this phone in april because I knew mods/hacks would allow cisco groupname vpns. That was the only reason I was needing root, which came available months later. Some other pros were using undervolted kernels, nandroid, and minor asthetics, but big whoop.
Come january first, I doubt Dinc will be in VZ's plethora of phones. It had a long 8-9 month journey. I'll likely keep my Dinc through Q1 of 2012, when i'm eligible for a free upgrade.
The best part is, it will still be handy like an iPod Touch with SIP phone, our can be a good smart phone for my daughter (a blooming developer).
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Agreed, but I suspect the number is probably more like 100+.
I got the dInc on release day! I was on T-Mobile and using a NexusOne but had antenna issues with it so I gave it to my gf temporarily and bought me the dInc ...I dislike Motorola and looooove HTC and XDA.
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I even switched from sprint just to get the DINC>why u may ask... cause sprint didnt have a decent android phone in the 3.6 to 4 inch screen.. I would have loved the evo. but no 4g in the sticks were i live.. So far the DINC to me is one of the best phones out atm.. perfect size and the style is great.. nothing too flashy.... even engadget still says the same...
The DINC should at least get another update..Its got the horesepower.. but the ball is in verizons court etc..on that one.. im just gonna sit back and enjoy it for a year or so then see what else is out there..
I have had just about every Android phone Verizon offers. And obviously, my latest is the inc2 which I love BTW. But I have noticed something- the amount of activity and or support for this device amazes me. Is it JUST because we don't have perm root yet? It seems like even peoples basic questions go unanswered because not enough people are around.
In no way am I trying to point any fingers or rush the amazing devs. I am just curious as to why there seems to be very little activity here. Could it be that people are already happy with their inc2 the way they are, so there isn't much rush to change it? I don't think so.. theres always bigger and better things to try and look forward to.
I came from a fascinate previous to this phone and had more problems with it than I could even begin to list. But the dev support was there. Hopefully its just the root factor causing the lack of support.. or maybe I am missing something. Please try to refrain from the flaming.
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Is it JUST because we don't have perm root yet?
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Yes. Pair that with the fact that this isn't the most attractive "cutting-edge" device.
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Yes. Pair that with the fact that this isn't the most attractive "cutting-edge" device.
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Neither is the Eris or the Hero but the amount of support they recieve is astonishing!! Even still to this day the threads and contributors continue to grow at a steady pace.
Going forward with what the op stated and as u gunther mentioned, its because we still dont have root. In time we will achieve root and shortly there after the threads and postings will grow as well.
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Yes. Pair that with the fact that this isn't the most attractive "cutting-edge" device.
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I've herd others say this and I don't get it. It's a very high end phone! Second generation snapdragon with gpu and a front facing camera? I'de say its high end. Not a tb but not many phones have dual core or Tegra 2 yet. Plus 4g is too much. It sucks battery and its not covered enough yet. 3g is just fine for me. Its the best phone Verizon has at the moment. The battery is great, its fast, amazing build quality and the video chat is a nice plus. I call it the thunderbolt's little brother.
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Give it more than a little over a month.. this is why I keep my inc1 to play with. it'll come..
I believe the issue is that HTC has given us an ounce of hope by telling us that they will no longer lock their bootloaders. By doing this, most people are hesitant to try and root their phone since they know that HTC might do it for them. (Or provide an automated solution, of course.)
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I've herd others say this and I don't get it. It's a very high end phone! Second generation snapdragon with gpu and a front facing camera? I'de say its high end. Not a tb but not many phones have dual core or Tegra 2 yet. Plus 4g is too much. It sucks battery and its not covered enough yet. 3g is just fine for me. Its the best phone Verizon has at the moment. The battery is great, its fast, amazing build quality and the video chat is a nice plus. I call it the thunderbolt's little brother.
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Sure, it's not a tbolt. Differences:
tbolt has 4.3" screen, I2 has 4" screen
tbolt has LTE, I2 does not
tbolt has a kickstand built in, I2 does not
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Do you find these differences revolutionary? Because that's pretty much the only real differences. They both have the same SOC (2nd gen snapdragon), same 768mb RAM, same cameras, etc. The core hardware is pretty much the same. Unfortunately the storage controllers are different enough to make the rooting process for the tbolt not work for the I2, but it's my understanding they are similar enough that a similar hack is being worked on.
(this isn't targeted at gigamchz, just expanding on what was said)
I agree completely with nearly everything stated. What would you guys think about starting up an IRC room for us "non-devs" ? Ive got one setup, but if nobody is interested in making use of it, I don't see a reason to move forward with it.
I was only thing Irc because its a lot easier to get an answer to your question quickly. And also there would be a strict rule of no flaming. So hopefully people would feel more comfortable asking questions.
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I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
motorola products are well built...but u will be the running the stock kernel until the end of time, regardless of 2nd init
also i hate motorola so im prejudiced
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I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
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The cell reception isn't actually much better. Compare the dbm in about phone and you will see that the bars don't tell the whole story.
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I just rooted an X2 and upgraded it to a zipaligned deodexed and debloated 2.3.3.
The thing wasn't even close to my inc2 in speed, not even in the same zipcode.
Unless you need root desperately, i'd wait. The specs on the motorola may look strong, but you stick the 2 phones together and rooted inc2 with a good rom is going to smoke that thing to pieces any day.
I've hated every Moto I've had the misfortune of owning. That includes the X. Since you're asking for opinion I'd say hell no. No Moto is as good as the Inc2 right now. The dual core will be crap compared to the 1.5 dual snapdragon anyway
I switched from the X2 to the INC2. That stock X2 had more bugs than than the amazon rainforest! I couldn't even play an MP3 without it skipping when trying to run another app. IMHO, there is nowhere near enough RAM on the X2, especially for a dual core. With light use, the available RAM was well below 100MB. On many occasions, the available RAM was below 50Mbs. I would advise anyone to run, not walk, from the X2 as quick as possible. The users with bad experiences far out number those with good. And those with good experiences, I think have just become complacent with a sub-par device. That's my 2 cents. Having used both phones, I can honestly say the INC2 will run circles around the X2. All the tweaks in the world won't give the X2 more RAM.
These posts have been very insightful. I suppose I will wait for the root on the Inc2- At least we can do WiFi sharing, that's one of the major things I wanted to get out of a root anyhow. I just wish we could get rid of all that VZW crap
Thanks again community- ya never fail
A deblurred, deodexed, debloated, zipalinged Droid X2 wouldn't be bad. But IMO we shouldn't have to do all of that to make a phone function like the DInc2.
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I work for Big Red and from my sales experience I would not take a X2 if it was a gift. From the X to the X2 has been a constant headache. The Dinc2 is like a zippy exotic sports car and the MOTO X is like a Chevy Camaro with a supercharged engine but only has a 5 gallon gas tank.
I believe it was Phonescoop that did a great write up on the Dinc2. In short they said: The HTC Droid Incredible 2 is a fluid machine with updates to 2.3.3 but like its older brother the Droid Incredible it will be in the shadows of the other phones launching. The 4g line and X2 will hog up air time and billboard space. While the Dinc2 will only be seen as the red headed step child.
Ok that is my take on what they said but it is true.
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I'm actually kinda liking the Droid 3. Keyboard.
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One of my inlaws has an X2, and it does indeed get a considerably stronger signal than the Inc2, but personally, I can't stand everything else about it - the size, the crazy shape, the locked boot loader, the physical buttons and the widly reported bugs.
Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Glad you decided to stay! Because rooting just became possible! See what patience can do?
After alot of problems with a d2g I got vz to replace it with a dinc2(not here yet). So I've done alot of research today and saw a crapload of videos reviews mostly and I have to say that the software on the dinc2 will be better then motos. Haven't used it but I Already know that based on what i've seen. I started out my droid journey with an eris and let's be honest that phone stunk. So with that had a bad taste in my mouth with htc and sense. I got a dx and never considered an htc device again until I actually took a look at the inc2. I'm happy with my d3 don't get me wrong but I may have went with it. Prior to actually checking the phones out they seemed kinda feminine with their rainbow wallpapers but after seeing its capabilities I may give my old lady the d3 and keep the inc2
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Root now available? Absolutely amazing! Those guys over at revolutionary are truly amazing. I'm glad I didn't buy an xtc clip today like I was planning on doing.
I had the inc1 and gore insurance to upgrade me to the inc2 for free- I am very pleased. It is quite a bit more zippy than the inc1 and when I talked to the guy at asurion, he said the inc2 was the phone that worked the best; that is, he almost never got a call about problema on the inc2.
I can't wait to see what this phone can do now that the bulk of inc2 users can finally root! The developers on this site are truly amazing.
Hi guys, i've posted before, I used to have a Droid X but sold it for a reason, how do you guys like the Dinc? Any of you guys had a phone with a bigger screen before? Have you gotten used to typing on it? How is the overall experience with the Dinc?
Well I love my Dinc. I'm coming from an Eris previously though so to me it does seem 'bigger'. It for sure has the speed and power with whatever I need it to do. So no issue there. IDK, I guess its the difference between what you want and what you need it to do. It is an older device with scimpy support of course from VZW and HTC. But then again we have some awesome devs on here that are still putting in a lot of work for the device. But if you want the latest tech you should deferentially hold of for something like the Vigor(inc hd?) or drop some cash right now for the Inc2 or dare I even say Thunderbolt? lol. Time moves on and tech keeps getting better.
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do not get the thunderbolt. It is such a bad decision. Do not even consider it. I love this phone though, if you can wait, definitely wait for the vigor. I have a strong feeling that's what's gonna be in my pocket on December 14th (my upgrade day)
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Well, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. The Thunderbolt is without a doubt the single best device Verizon has. Nothing else does as much so well. HTC attempted to do something NO OTHER PHONE has ever done, and succeeded; simultaneous voice and EVDO/LTE data. The Charge doesn't do it, and neither does the LG. Of course waiting is an option, but a stupid one in my estimation because it's an argument that could be made at any point in time about any device. Assuming you're going to wait and get it at or near launch, you're virtually stuck with whatever HTC and Verizon deem worthy for it to run. Root is another question altogether. I've argued with several people about the merits of the Tbolt, usually with people that have hardly touched one. Bottom line is that I've yet to hand my phone to someone who didn't find it just stupid-fast and a pure pleasure to use. The stock battery pounds both the EVO 4G and dInc right into the ground by a solid margin of 30% while running 1.5GHz.
To directly answer the question of whether I'd recommend the dInc today, no, I certainly wouldn't. If I had to recommend a phone, it would be the Tbolt first, the dInc2 second for those who've got little hope of seeing LTE in the near future. I wouldn't recommend waiting to get a Vigor or whatever it shall be called for 2 reasons. First, nobody knows what's really inside that phone. Second, nobody know how it's actually going to perform. There was all this orgasmic hype around the Tbolt. When it launched, it had some issues that were't exactly clear, but have since been resolved to the tune of solid 1 day battery lives and practically flawless operation and reliability. But still, I see posts like this, clearly uninformed, bashing on a truly excellent device, one which seems to have some of the most unique and exciting development of any device I'm aware of. I can't speak for phones that don't exist, but today, as this is written, the Tbolt is the BEST device Verizon has ever sold, supported by the fastest network, providing feature NO other device offers.
Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
I would get a thunderbolt only because ihtfp is working his magic on it. Skyraider Zeus looks incredible!
That said, I would still recommend the incredible to someone who likes small form phones. Its the last of its kind and runs like a champ with a vast selection of custom roms. However I am not sure how many of these roms will play nice with the carrier you plan on going to.
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Gotta say I love the dinc (like previous poster said, it's size — I can slip it in my back pocket); I intend to keep buying dincs (ebay) until droids stop trending into tablet-sized paperweights.
But one issue with the dinc is the infuriatingly small amount of phone memory; I haven't hit on the issue myself (I clean app caches regularly, don't install every app on the market), but it's a bit douchey that internal memory is 8G, but only about 700MB is 'phone memory'. If there was one thing I could change about the stock phone, it would be the phone memory partition.
Otherwise, development for dInc is [no pun] incredible. If you don't mind the size, tb or dinc2 would be good options, too.
(And if you're not going with vzw and don't care about size, hold out for the freaking samsung galaxy 2!)
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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That's not that hard. I have a friend who does that stuff. The AMOLED is a little harder to find than the SLCD and they aren't compatible. All the digitizers are the same. Use the tape to mount it, not glue. I've heard stories of it bleeding over into the screen area.
I think it would depend on price and availability.
If you can get it cheap, and options like the Thunderbolt or Incredible 2 aren't available for whatever reason, it's still a good phone.
I would certainly recommend and do recommend the Incredible, maybe not for bleeding-edge people, but for anyone I want to introduce to the wonders of Android, I always tell them to go for the Incredible, and everyone that has have all been as blown away as I first was. The most solid phone I've ever owned by a massive margin.
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Dinc has been really worth it b/c of ease of use and rooting. I would recommend this phone for anyone wanting to get into this sorta stuff.
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
Have fun. Good luck
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Best you stick with nexus and dev devices if you care so deeply about rooting your phone. No ones going to stop you from leaving but just know all of us will still be enjoying the beautiful hardware of the HTC one
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rmaccamr said:
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
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... Wow... Your own fault... And you had to make this posy because.... Man whatever... People never get smarter...
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Yea pretty much follow the golden rule. If you aren't fine running stock don't buy it... Unless its a nexus then you get cake.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Just jumped ship for the same reason s4 rooted here I come will miss Zoe :silly:
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Or someone posting something for drama lol.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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AMEN.
Some of the great phones of the past took months to unlock, and the people who waited ended up with awesome
Phones. Anyone who thought this vzw phone would be rooted in a few weeks isn't real bright.
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For all of you that are dumping your Ones for something else BYE . But Im almost possitive there is an exploit for this device and it will not be released untill the 4.3 update rolls out so that it dont get patched , thas my two cents . If after the release there is no exploit , I will then send my SEXY Blue BEAST out to Sonic and let him sprinkle some magic on it , and then we will have Tranquil on our Ones.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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This. The only things that bother me with sense is the cluttered status bar, the wifi persistent notification, and few other other things.
I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
I agree with the general consensus here: don't get a phone you won't be happy with stock.
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I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
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Congrats on the major hardware upgrade I had the Thunderbolt for a little while, wasn't a big fan, then got the Rezound. Loved the Rezound. But yes, the HTC One is an amazing device, even stock. I also didn't like blinkfeed, so I am, too, using the Nova launcher.
To the OP, thanks for stopping by, good luck with you future devices. I'll hold out for a hopefull exploit after 4.3 is released, and like others have said, if that doesn't turn out, hopefully I can send my phone to Sonic to get s-off.
Should never buy a phone with the expectation that it will be unlocked. Especially in such a short time frame.
I don't think it was necessary to make a post about getting rid of your phone, but to each their own.
I hope you find the phone that works for you. Just don't buy a phone you aren't happy with out of the box. Sounds like you should either buy a nexus phone, a dev edition phone, or wait and buy a phone that the community has already exploited.
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I think I agree with most people when I say this, I didn't buy the One for it's root or ROM capabilities I bought it because the phone is awesome. I personally think HTC did a great job with Sense 5, before I used this I was on the Thunderbolt and it was still a good phone I'm glad u went with HTC. The only reason I care for root now is adblock and uninstalling Verizon's apps.
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Thank you
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Still have confidence in XDA Dev's
I can sorta see both sides of this. To me the HTC one is the best phone I have owned BY FAR! S4 was great phone but I like the build, screen, and speaker quality of this one better.
I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong for thinking anything. You would be wrong, however, in buying a phone with expectations that devs would root the phone and then throw a fit if they don't. If you think they owe you something - I'm not saying you do - or if you think you deserve their efforts on your phone of choice then you would be wrong in that.
The advice to buy a phone you love AS-IS is great advice because if you don't get what you're hoping for, you're still good with your choice.
Is it wrong to hope the devs get you squared away quick? No. Is it wrong to demand it of them? Yes.