[Q] How to revert S-OFF back to normal settings? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

...But with a challenge.
I've broken my Desire Z's screen, and I need to revert to complete stock. I heard that the RUU's do jack **** to the su.apk and S-OFF.
How would I go about removing su.apk, and turning S-OFF on, without the screen after RUU.
I'm pretty much boned, aren't I?

not even...i read posts like this all the time..theres instructions here somewhere.
sorry no url
pimped out g2

If there is now way to turn screen on there's a good chance they won't look much further into it and just replace.
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here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Returning_to_Stock

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[DISCUSSION][SOLVED] ROOTING G2 Vision T-mobile

What is this thread?
This is where steps will be tried to get root on the device
What should be posted?
Steps to try, steps tried and failed, steps that worked
What should not be posted in this thread?
If your post doesn't have anything to do with root then you may ask in general, we will not help get adb set up or anything else, there are thousands of threads all over the interwebs that tell you how to get adb working and this will not be one of them.
So now that we have devices in hand and we have a few devs on-hand as well we can really get into this.
I will update this post later with tried methods and failed(and why) but for now we have some simple rules.
If you want to test, fine but share any and all details
We do not have someone in charge of root as several that are working don't have devices(myself included) and so we may just post steps, if you try the steps be sure to quote the steps tried and post results of each step(errors especially)
Once root is achieved provide pics and what you did so we can replicate and verify
Anything done on the phone is YOUR fault if you think that what you are trying could cause issues and you are uncomfortable doing the steps provided then stop and ask questions.
Standard disclaimers apply, if your phone is broke then fix it, we will try to be helpful if it was caused by our steps but the end result is if you brick it then it's your fault and we will note it as a step not to try again.
Hope this is helpful the rest will be updated below this later when I have computer to work at
Yea I preordered mines so it should be n by the oct 6 day(my brithday )
But yea I want root asap once I get the phone ill be up to trying a few things to help out.
What's mainly needed? A system, boot, and recovery dump?
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what about unrevoked universal root method?
Give me some clockwork. I want the process to be easy like it is for the Vibrant. **** only took 2 seconds to root.
If I do acquire one.. how can I be of help?
The slides method should work. It works on all newer htc android models so far. we'll just have to wait and see really.
WilliamStern said:
Give me some clockwork. I want the process to be easy like it is for the Vibrant. **** only took 2 seconds to root.
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yeah... sorry, that won't happen. but it won't be too difficult. start practicing with adb if y'all are rusty, lol!
sino8r said:
yeah... sorry, that won't happen. but it won't be too difficult. start practicing with adb if y'all are rusty, lol!
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The thing about that is that I own only Macs. Doesn't adb, and odin only work with pc?
I know we won't really see clockwork on the G2, I'm just wishing here. lol
Either way, I just want this to be easy.
odin was for vibrant, adb will run on any OS so long as you know how(put ./ in front and run the command or just make sure that the adb binary is in your path) i plan on trying the adb method tonight, just need a build with root to test with
Hopefully I will be able to test this theory out tomorrow when I receive my device
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The divice in my hand has recovery 3e which means the adb method may not work, we'll have to try a few things, won't have the G2 near a comp for another 8 hours from now
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tubaking182 said:
The divice in my hand has recovery 3e which means the adb method may not work, we'll have to try a few things, won't have the G2 near a comp for another 8 hours from now
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Damn, that's a little discouraging. I was hoping the root method would be quick. Oh well, it will give me some time to play with a vanilla rom.
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When it arrives, get into bootloader by holding volume down, then hit recovery, volume up+power makes text menu appear in recovery
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That's just like the slide, so I'm looking forward to seeing what comes up.
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WilliamStern said:
The thing about that is that I own only Macs. Doesn't adb, and odin only work with pc?
I know we won't really see clockwork on the G2, I'm just wishing here. lol
Either way, I just want this to be easy.
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Heheheh! I was talking about root being as easy as the vibrant. We'll see clockwork recovery for sure on the G2. Eventually...
I wish root could be as easy as the vibrant, hopefully when I get home we can try some ideas and have at it
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tubaking182 said:
I wish root could be as easy as the vibrant, hopefully when I get home we can try some ideas and have at it
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Hey man, thanks for being so helpful, and willing to answer questions. I'm kinda new at all this, so I know who I'll be following around here in G2 world.
Well I only get the phone for 1 day but I will be as helpful as I can be with the phone, and I'll have one at work to toy with. Right now I am trying to get used to the keyboard and how it's set up
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how do the short cut keys work? programmed? and what can they be programmed to do?
I've got one in hand with adb access but no root. Unless I'm doing it wrong, UniversalAndRoot, Unrevoked, and "fastboot oem unlock" all don't work. Other ideas?

[Q] How do I reset my G2 to stock?

Just like the title says, I'd like to unroot and go back to factory defaults like it was fresh out of the box. I've already messed up quite a few things on it and would just like to start over ~_~
by going to the development forum and reading the stickies and following directions
thank god for smart ass answers. Without jag offs like you we'd all be lost in this world!
No but seriously **** munch, I was hoping for some details in what order I would need to do everything seeing as how there are some warnings on downgrading straight to stock. Thanks for your next-to-useless advice though.
dietotherhythm said:
thank god for smart ass answers. Without jag offs like you we'd all be lost in this world!
No but seriously **** munch, I was hoping for some details in what order I would need to do everything seeing as how there are some warnings on downgrading straight to stock. Thanks for your next-to-useless advice though.
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LOL thats pretty funny hahah
did u do a back up?
sadly i did not, I was messing with overclocking and somehow messed up some permissions and i'm kinda stuck in a loop. Not sure how to enable read/write to my system while in a root explorer and adb is just giving me some weird message about color being incorrect when I try to access system... bleh, could always be worse, at least i'm not bricked yet right? heh
dietotherhythm said:
sadly i did not, I was messing with overclocking and somehow messed up some permissions and i'm kinda stuck in a loop. Not sure how to enable read/write to my system while in a root explorer and adb is just giving me some weird message about color being incorrect when I try to access system... bleh, could always be worse, at least i'm not bricked yet right? heh
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Could you use somebody elses clockwork backup?
sinistersai4d4d said:
Could you use somebody elses clockwork backup?
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I tried that once with my old G1 and I've had mixed experiences, sometimes I would get MD5 checks that didn't match up and once actually backed up my step fathers G1 while rooting his and ended up accidentally loading it up on mine.
Worth a shot I guess.
you can use someone else's backup, but the unroot threads all tell you the order in which you need to do things, without searching and reading you will never do anything on your own which is ridiculous. there are a few different threads that tell you how to unroot your phone if you just read everything through it will all make sense
dietotherhythm said:
I tried that once with my old G1 and I've had mixed experiences, sometimes I would get MD5 checks that didn't match up and once actually backed up my step fathers G1 while rooting his and ended up accidentally loading it up on mine.
Worth a shot I guess.
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think its ur best bet man.. why do you want to go back to stock?
G1_enthusiast said:
think its ur best bet man.. why do you want to go back to stock?
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He did a little too much tweaking and has it phone hosed up.
Best of luck to him. I am sure he will now do a back up before messing with things. I have opted to do that every time now with Rom Manager. Its nice to be able to revert quickly.
I did the CM 6.1 RC1 but GPS and battery life not so good. Luckily I had a Backup that I was able to restore days later. With the assistance of Titanium I get everything else set up. Email is no big deal as I have exchange and Gmail.
Please see this thread. I had used this to reset my G2 back to stock and then went ahead and rooted it with rage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
Heres another smart ass one for ya http://www.google.com/m/search?pbx=...sdt=21595&q=how+to+revert+stock+g2+bootloader
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[Q] Can anyone making video changing g2 Hboot Desire z?

I've been looking for changing my G2 Hboot to DZ for new virtuous rom and I'm to scared doing it. Can anyone making video for this process?
You shouldn't need one put the file in the root of your SD and power on your phone by pressing volume up and power and it does it all right there that's how I switched mine over.
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If I had not already switched mine I would have. Just read the instructions carefully, then re-read them again, then work thru the steps very carefully. It's really not very hard.
Sent from my HTC Vision, G2, Ultra super premium awesome phone.
It is easy, but i understand that some peopled o worry about changing things sometimes either through lack of confidence or experience.
If you do need some guidance I suggest hoping over to #virtuousrom irc and either myself or someone else will be happy to help

Talked to HTC about downgrading

Hello everyone, I had emailed HTC yesterday about downgrading my Desire back to 2.2. and this is what they said...
I understand you installed the Gingerbread build on our developer portal and would like to flash back to 2.2 Froyo. I understand how important it is for your phone to function properly and I will be happy to assist. The Gingerbread build that was posted was not intended for North American users unless they only needed the device to test applications they were writing. We do not have a method for an end user to flash back to 2.2 at home, however if you can reply with the device serial number located on the back of the phone after you remove the back cover and the battery and the name of your cellular provider I can find out if you are able to send the phone into HTC to be re-flashed.
So in other words unless we find a way to unlock the bootloader we have to send it in to HTC which kinda sucks.
Let me know what you think!
There are people in other threads that have been given the answer fron htc support that the upcoming boot loader unlocker will unlock ALL htc phones.
Keep an eye at this page: http://htcdev.com/devcenter
gerhard_wa said:
There are people in other threads that have been given the answer fron htc support that the upcoming boot loader unlocker will unlock ALL htc phones.
Keep an eye at this page: http://htcdev.com/devcenter
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If you use their online unlocking tool when it comes into use, then you fail.
Swyped...
Meaple said:
If you use their online unlocking tool when it comes into use, then you fail.
Swyped...
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Why do you say that?
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gerhard_wa said:
There are people in other threads that have been given the answer fron htc support that the upcoming boot loader unlocker will unlock ALL htc phones.
Keep an eye at this page: http://htcdev.com/devcenter
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Yeah I know that but thank you I just wanted to show what they told me lol
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ok, sure we agree that htc relesed gb as dev, and sure a lot of us thougt someone will crack the hboot soon. But crap this is a bad build...
The call function is often "hanging" a while after finising a call, after installing some of my regular apps, gb is terrible slow, the sence clock sometimes stops in time, and i could go on...
I have not read all of the posts here since the dev release of gb, but i for one is "not realy happy" with the dev gb, and would sure as hell give good money for going back to what i had before "upgrading" to gb.
Ok, I got that of my chest... someone says htc dealers can downgrade to froyo. Does anyone know of someone that can do that in Bergen, Norway?
Well, luckily for me, I do not experience any of the issues described here. From my point of view the GB update was a success.
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luckily for me too
GB works excellent for me and i have found no issues, i love it alot, only a root will be amazing to remove some main apps like gmail and maps
but i still don't know what is the Force to SD function and where to find it
Well, luckily for me, I do not experience any of the issues described here. From my point of view the GB update was a success.
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Yes I agree I don't mind it but I hard the fact that I can't unlock the bootloader lol
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beyarfaj2004 said:
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but i still don't know what is the Force to SD function and where to find it
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Have you tried this: Move apps to SD - Unrooted Froyo Guide. Noobs Guide (from the Desire Q&A forum) ? It worked for me when I was on Stock 2.2, so it might help you too. I can't try it now, as I am already rooted and using a custom rom.

[Q] Reverting to stock without using screen

I need to send my phone to htc cause the screen went out and is there anyway to change everything to stock before doing so? I'm running CM7 and the phone is S-off too
If you need to be able to see your screen, there is a java based program called screencast that runs when the adb server is up and connected to your phone. It can be useful to ensure you are on the correct screen (recovery, etc.).
Search "screencast" on all of XDA - I believe the thread about it is in the HTC Dream: G1 forum.
As for reverting to s-on and stock rom, search in the development thread in these G2 forums. There is a guide explaining the whole thing. I'd look around for you, but I am on my phone right now.
Goodluck and godspeed. Aside from the screencast thing, you should be set.
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I'm curious - has this worked out yet? It would be very useful for a lot of people to know that the screencast program is useful in a situation like this.
Sorry for the double post - needed you to see I added this little tidbit!
captainreynolds said:
I'm curious - has this worked out yet? It would be very useful for a lot of people to know that the screencast program is useful in a situation like this.
Sorry for the double post - needed you to see I added this little tidbit!
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the phone wasnt in debugging mode so i wasnt able to use screencast. It's covered under warranty but i'm not sure if I should send it in or just get the lcd replaced.
dashah said:
the phone wasnt in debugging mode so i wasnt able to use screencast. It's covered under warranty but i'm not sure if I should send it in or just get the lcd replaced.
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get someone to screen capture menu item locations and turn on debugging mode in the blind, with luck it should work....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16912410#post16912410

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