I have rooted my INC, removed all the Bloatware etc, all I would like to do now is change kernel for a little better battery life. Would like a Kernel to either set profiles (setCPU) or one that is set up for better battery with no adjustments.
Running stock sense, rooted.
Thanks
There aren't many Sense kernel's that are still updated much, AFAIK, but when I ran a sense rom I stuck with "HeyItsLou Custom Sense Kernel"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859337
But once again, its all your preference, how YOU feel that the phone runs with whatever kernel you choose. Try that, look for others try them, and then you can see which one runs best. Everyone on here has their own choice for "best" kernel, now its time to make your decision too
IME Lou's #8 seems to do the best when phone is idle a lot, but under heavy use battery was no better or maybe worse than stock for me.
incredikernel by chad was best for me all around, even overclocked a little. Trying ziggys right now, Hella fast and stable so far, battery seems mediocre...nandroid and try them all! I never had issues with hydra either but they seemed to have fallen out of favor.
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I've read that people are getting better battery results by getting the SetCPU app and loading in a custom profile. The thread on what I'm talking about is around here somewhere, fairly recent topic. Kernels, from what I read, differ more by people's own experiance than real noticable differences. Perhaps just get some better battery management like with SetCPU, run a dimmer screen, turn off 3g when you're not using it...ya know, the same scenario that windows mobile guys go through. Also go out and buy a car charger, get a cheap wall charger for at work, etc. Its practically a portable laptop. ...sorry I'm getting a bit off topic....I hear incredikernel is a good one.
I thought setcpu does not work on stock kerenl? Is this incorrect thought you need perflock access? I have extended battery and have set my phone for battery saving, just thought be nice to set a few profiles in setcpu.
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I have settled on CM nightlies for the Rom, after discovering my bloody battery was the cause of random reboots, they have been incredibly (pardon the pun) stable.
That being said I am more than happy with the speed of the Incredible, and would like to focus on wireless reliability (anyone else who uses Wifi and BT simultaniously, with a tether thrown in now and then should know what I mean). Of course I want good battery life, so a minor undervolt would be nice, and more than two touch points would be a huge bonus (I long emu's).
Anyhow I am currently looking at Tiamat. It has everything but the built in undervolt. On the DX I used droid overclock app to undervolt, but on the incredible it does nto seem to be as simple?
What I would really like to know is if those with experience think this would be a good setup considering my needs, and maybe some undervolt advice.
Thanks in advance
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Magnolia ROM, Stock Kernel - Solid as heck.
I would like to find a good overclockable kernal and am not really having luck finding much info about them. I see SVC and all that stuff but i dont know what all that means. I am running the newest version of IncRom and love it besides it having a stock kernal. I use alot of wifi teather and am on my phone alot so i need something thats going to be a strong signal for the wifi and i need one that charges fast and has acceptable battery life. I know i cant have everything all in one but i have flashed like 6 different roms and notice the kernals do matter for example the OMFGB 1.1.1 rom the battery dies so fast i can watch it drain but takes 5 hrs to charge back up. I have no use for something like that u know. But on the flip side it has an overclockable kernal!!! So could someone guide me in the right direction or at least break down what kind of kernal im looking for??? I really would like this info thank u.
I have CM7 on my phone but replaced the CM7 kernel with the latest version of incredikernel. It has been good so far and I have great battery life. I can set the governor to overclock my CPU up to 1113 MHz and I have verified the increase in speed is giving more performance through a couple of benchmark apps. I am also able to do either wifi or USB tethering without any issues as the CM7 rom has native support for both of them. You may want to try flashing your baseband radio as the different versions will offer different performance. I am using 2,15,00.11.19 right now and it is working well for me.
incredikernel AOSP is excellent for both battery life and overclocking. I can't speak for the Sense ROM, but I'm sure it's just as nice. I can say that the AOSP roms charge QUICK, and with the smartass governer, you can oc and uc and have great battery life.
I'm running chad's incredikernel right now on SkyRaider 4.0 and I love it. The smartass governor is great for battery life and it charges really fast. It's the only kernel I'd run on a sense ROM
I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
paperweight said:
I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
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for AOSP id try incredikernel or invisiblek. PS, this is the dev section, questions arent allowed here.
Thanks for the info . On the Eris dev section questions were flying all over(unless they changed it) Where should i move it to?
Thanks
paperweight said:
Thanks for the info . On the Eris dev section questions were flying all over(unless they changed it) Where should i move it to?
Thanks
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q&a would be appropriate
Stating you are not trying to be rude and then doing it anyways with the statement - "its not rocket science" - makes you sound like you are 5. I cant even imagine how you could be of any use to anyone when putting down someone for misplacing a Question is the only logical thing you could think of to say.
paperweight said:
I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
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For me, chad's latest incredikernel beta 7 has been super smooth with stellar battery life. Never had great results with Tiamat on my Dinc. I just keep it at the regular voltages and it works great
invisiblek is very reliable too, just a modified version of slayher's stock CM kernel
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Yes, this would be better suited for q and a but no reason to be mean about it, it'll get moved. Seems like half the threads in development don't even have DL links up, they're just for roms "coming soon".
As for kernels, I stick with incredikernel and invisiblek. Tiamat gave me some reboots but when I could get it to work it seemed nice.
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Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.
1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.
Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.
Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!
Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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MarkyG82 said:
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.
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Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
Myrmidon83 said:
Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
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Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?
Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
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So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?
The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.
Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.
well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...