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Here is the situation, I appreciate any feedback. I'm running Remptive Revolution with the Distinction 1.49 theme on it, I flashed over to one of ziggy's kernels not too long ago and it seems like it rips my battery up. I usually have it around 1.15 on demand in SetCPU with profiles set to 384max when screen off, and 768 max when below 50% and 691 below 30%. It seems like the original ROM kernel was wicked fast but I didn't get a good chance to test out the battery life. I've tried a few different kernels and I'm considering going back to one of the Hydra kernels, I feel like they haven't done me wrong. I'm just looking for a good solid kernel that will give me solid battery and good performance, I know I won't get the best of both worlds, but I'd prefer good battery life. Also, pro/cons/purpose of wiping battery stats? I can't seem to find any info about it.
I really like chads kernels. His newest one an oc to 1.113 and is faster then any other kernel ive ever used with really good battery life. (ive only tested the battery life at stock speeds.) And the purpose of wiping battery stats is to let your phone recalibrate the battery so basically you can get the best battery life. ( i believe at least)
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I really like chads kernels. His newest one an oc to 1.113 and is faster then any other kernel ive ever used with really good battery life. (ive only tested the battery life at stock speeds.) And the purpose of wiping battery stats is to let your phone recalibrate the battery so basically you can get the best battery life. ( i believe at least)
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I well 2nd this, chads kernel is the shiz. best graphics, great battery life...wicked fast like a new phone I've said before, hands down best kernel for redemptive
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Installing now. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have an update later on and we'll see where we stand.
The reason I'm hesitant to use KingKlicks is because of a constant bootloop I ran into. And Ziggy was just cool, got some really good quadrant scores on it, but it just ran through battery like nothing. Anyway, thanks again! I'm excited!
I've been using Heyitslou new kernel and battery life is the best since I've owned this phone. I'm also using his Redemptive Revolution ROM.
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If you use aosp roms then I would go with invisiblek #17. It's the best that I've found thus far.
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If you use aosp roms then I would go with invisiblek #17. It's the best that I've found thus far.
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Best kernel i have used by far for cm6
I wiped battery stats a few days ago in recovery, and literally every app on my phone started force closing. I had to restore from a backup, and when I did, every app acted like it was the first time I ever loaded it. Had to set up EVERYTHING again. Do as you will, but the ONLY thing I did to cause that garbage was wipe my battery stats. I'd love better battery life too, but I think the software should be capable of relearning your power cycle of a battery if you replace the battery. Can't stay one way forever.. or at least it shouldn't.
does anyone know where I can download KXK #3 or one of his other kernels? I have tried to find them on this site and the ROM manager. Even google's top results are just sending me to theads about the kernels but none have links to the kernel itself. I am going to try using it to get my battery life extended since I really don't mess with my DINC much besides angry birds (addict for life).
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There is a kernel thread floating around here somewhere it has them. I'm on my phone so I can't link but its called the official kernel thread I believe
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I just got my droid incredible and I rooted it as soon as I got it. I've tried almost every rom in the "official rom" thread. I can't seem to figure out which one is the best for battery life. Right now I'm on myns 5.2. Any insight would help.
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I was using miui au 1.1.7 and had great battery life. Miui isn't for everyone though. I just installed the latest cm7 gb build so well see
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It really depends on the kernel that is flashed with the ROM as well, in general ROM's that are AOSP tend to have better battery life because all the Sense stuff that syncs constantly can drain your battery, but alot of devs have found ways around this by getting rid of the extra Sense junk.
But IMO switching kernels gives the biggest difference
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it trully is in the kernal and somewhat dependant on the rom.. like dude said.. warm is a badass rom.. i think i'm still using warm rls4, forget which kernal.. but find a decent one and use a cpu tool to setup profiles to control your kernals speed and usage.. with the right settings you can squeez some juice out...
lou's senseless rom with his #4 kernel is awesome
Skyraider 3.5 for sense or I'm having great battery life with cm7 w/ stock launcher (doubt it makes a difference on battery life but might)
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Like others have said, it's mostly about what kernel you are using. Some kernels reduce the amount of voltage the CPU uses to save battery as well as underclocking it when its not in use to save even more battery. I've used Skyraider 3.5 with Incredikernel and it has given me the best battery life, and I've used quite a few different kernels.
If you choose an AOSP ROM (like cyanogenmod) try invisiblek's kernel.
Best battery life to date is my current setup, Senseless Redemptive Revolution with Lou's #6. I can get 24-26 hours with normal usage not watching what I do. Recently, I reinstalled Juice Defender, and as I have always been a skeptic of it, if it is set up correctly, I am seeing a very noticeable increase in battery with no real side effects. FYI.
For Me, it was Cyanogen 6.1 stable and invisbilek's #28 for the kernel, but play around with it and see what works best for you, now that you are rooted, you can add any rom and kernel that you want and find out what works best for you, rembember, everyone's phone and usage are different, what works for me may not be best for you.
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Reason: The reason we close what's referred to as "Best ROM Threads" is because the vast majority of the type end up a nasty flame fest. The reasons should be obvious. It's really a matter of opinion, and then you get the fanboys of certain devs chiming in, and well, you get it. You did nothing wrong (besides posting in the wrong sub-forum). My advice is try a few and make that choice yourself. It's easy to find the most popular ATM, because they stay on page 1 of the dev sub. That doesn't necessarily make it the best, however. Give some a shot and see what's best for you. Good luck.
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I'm pretty sure that this question has been posted alot of times but I need help deciding on a decent rom and a kernal which would go with it that has everything working and has the best battery life as well. I will probably get CM7 but idk which kernal will go best with it.
I also need help changing the LCD density of my screen. Before I switched to my EVO I owned a HTC HD2 and had pongsters hyperdroid on it which had lower LCD density allowing everything to be smaller on the phone.
Those are my questions please help. Thank you!
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Not exactly sure what you mean by LCD density but I can help with the ROM kernel question.
As far as a ROM goes the best way to find the right one is to do 2 things.
1. Make a list of things you are looking for in a ROM. Stability, 4G, HDMI, Wireless Tether, etc. Then check out ROMs that contain stable versions with those features you emphasize.
2. Get flash happy. Flash a ROM, test it for a few days to a week and then flash another one. If you find yourself coming back to one specific ROM over and over again then that is probably the one you should stick with.
Check out this thread for some ROM ideas: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951057
A few ROMs that I didn't see mentioned in there are Myn's Synergy, Salvage-Mod, Sinister, Savaged Zen, and Swag.
As far as kernels go you have to remember a basic rule. Sense ROMs get paired with sense kernels and AOSP ROMs get paired with AOSP kernels. Then you do the same thing you did with the ROMs.
1. Make a list of what you want in a kernel. HAVS, SBC, overclocking, undervolting, etc.
2. Get flash happy and test which kernel matches your ROM the best with what you are looking for.
I know that may not be the exact answer you are looking for. But ROMs and kernels are all about personal preference and daily usage trends. each one has pros and cons that different people may or may not like. Check my ROM/kernel combination. It fits my usage habits, constantly using it at home and barely use it when out of the house, but it may not fit the way you use it. Experiment and have fun.
And here is a thread about kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
Quite personally, I would suggest MIUI. If you're not into that kind of thing, I would suggest Deck's, who updated to stable yesterday!
Kernel, I would say Tiamat 4.0.8.
Look up Vipermod. Check my signature. Most phones can at least handle a -50 undervolt for the Tiamat mentioned above.
I would suggest the flashable GPS fix in my signature. Locks on quite accurately.
You may have a lot of cell standby drain. Check development section for a thread about Radio wakelock combination.
Best way to change the density would be to edit the build.prop but there are apps in the Market. Just search density changer
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Then you will be able to find out what you like.
AOSP is always a winner for me.
Oh, and make sure you Nandroid.
I agree with both posts above, you have to try out roms for yourself since in every rom post you will see someone saying this is the best rom they have ever hadand battery life is super. Your question has been asked a million times before but like that millions of answers that were given it all boils down to personal choice.
I run AOSP with an sbc kernel but Lord knows you may find people here who would dispute the use of an sbc kernel. LCD Density apps are in the market or just use google for help. Sorry this is not a definitive answer but honestly just find a rom you like and give it a shot....
Thanks for all your answers time to get flash happy!
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For me the best combo of performance and battery life has been SavagedZen and CM7. Completely transformed my perception of just well the evo should perform. Basically no compromises, Fast AND great battery life.
I'm using MikG 2.56 ROM with Aggressive Freedom kernel. Holding up pretty good.
For me the best combo is Decks Rom 1.3 + SavagedZen Kernel + Vipermod
I can get about 16 hours on MikG 2.56 (stock kernel) with moderate use. Damn near perfect ROM.
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For me the best combo of performance and battery life has been SavagedZen and CM7. Completely transformed my perception of just well the evo should perform. Basically no compromises, Fast AND great battery life.
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Which version of CM7 are you running? I'm on the 219 nightly and it kind of meh. I've tried savaged Zen with CM7.1 and it was good but my battery didn't seem to last as long during use so I decided to move on to other kernels. Are you running any supplementary battery apps?
Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.
1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.
Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.
Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!
Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.
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Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
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Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?
Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
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So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?
The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.
Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.
well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...
So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?
You would be thinking right seeing as jb just came out. Just search and see what people are commenting on, battery wise
DO YOU JELLY?
Can i have a ICS rom and a JB rom running on Boot Manager or do they have to be the same?
I also want to know the answer to this question.
There is no best battery ROM. each ROM behave differently. they will give good battery for some, and bad for others.
what do you reccomend?
It's really less about the ROM, and more about the kernel you use...whether you undervolt or underclock or not, how you set up your apps, and how you use your phone. I'm using mROM at the moment, with Franco's kernel, undervolted. I just swapped kernels today, so I can't speak to the battery life just yet.
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+1 on the kernel being important for battery life.
I chose AOKP for its high customization. Lots of ROMs are as smooth, or even maybe a little smoother than AOKP, but many are just way too bare bones for me. I find AOKP to be the best package for my style, allows for nav bar control, notification control and toggles for phone features in the notication tray and many many more things. Plus, on the market there are many AOKP theme apps like Kiwi Cobalt or Purple Kush that make your phone look saaaa-weeeeeet.
And I always run Trinity kernels on my Nexus for battery life. Not sure why, but they seem to give my phone the best life. I haven't had luck with franco or other kernels in that aspect. But every phone and setup is different.
The combo I am running is the best I have found for a perfect balance between great speed and really good battery life on my phone.
Just remember to do backups. :good: The most important thing I can recommend, especially if new to flashing/custom-ing like myself.
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So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?
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I have NEVER tried this Rom.
But the Redemption Rom is supposed to be fast and have amazing battery life.
The catch is ZERO features. Just Stock. But that is why it's so fast apparently and have amazing battery.
Maybe u get to the Softkeys bar, I dunno.
Jellybean ROMs are smashing ICS in terms of battery life on the Nexus, and I think it may be a result of better RAM management. If you're just not ready to take the plunge on JB (source based ROMs are out now btw), and want a mix of customization, and battery life, CM9 may be the way to go. As for Gingerbread... hmmm... I doubt there are any ROMs available for the Nexus, and it sounds like a harsh, Benjamin Button type thing to do to such a great phone, lol.
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Here's my take on what really effects battery life:
As long as you have a ROM that doesn't malfunction and keep the phone active when it shouldn't be, all ROMs should get around the same battery life. If they don't, it's probably because you don't know about the difference in their settings - one might simply be using a more aggressive CPU governor. Even if you have a ROM that does absolutely nothing as much as possible, you are the cause of battery drain. I've tried all sorts of ROMs, and in the end, I'm the one causing battery drain. Whether it be me being sloppy and accidentally allowing too many background settings for apps, or me using more battery intensive features, I'm the one draining the battery in the end. From my experience, Stock, Liquid ICS, CM9, AOKP, Jelly Bean, Jelly Bean AOSP, any kernel you want to try, the user has the most affect on the battery life. Try adjusting your habits to improve battery life. I'm a heavy, heavy user (Sometimes with unlimited amperage from a 2.1amp charger, my phone still will die while charging.) I'm also in the Army, and when I know I will be in the field without power for extended periods of time, I change how I interact with my phone. Maybe don't overclock, even underclock/undervolt, use a more strict governor, even disable a CPU core, change Android settings to not allow ANY background apps, always turn off 4G and syncing, of course turn off BT and WiFi when not needed. I change from a user who can barely make it through the day to a user that can make it almost two. If you want something to give you better battery life without changing your habits, go buy a bigger battery or a newer phone.
Trinity 307 kernel all the way!!! Add in its conservative governor option and your conserving a lot of battery. Not to mention the kernel runs at a very low temp so your device will last well beyond the end of your 2yr contract plus it comes with a stock color mod thing that makes your gnex look amazing IMO.