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Hi,
this morning I recived my Defy, it's awesome phone. But I would prefer to get Froyo and not Eclair. The mobile phone comes with 2.22 revision, and I just read at this forum "ROM for 2.51 Warning!! it is not undowngradable". I don't know what to do.
Any one can help me?
the best way, ( in my opinion )
install jit/deodex Eclair and whait for a stable easy and fully working froyo rom.
yeah agree with above im on froyo but it is not as well polished as 2.1 and their are no real benifits
Jboogie3's Froyo Beta 3 should be out this week sometime. It should fix all of the bugs currently in Beta 2.
His ROM's usually run really well and he has the Gingerbread theme on it as well. I do like some of the interface improvements in Google mail and other areas. I am very happy with Froyo once I have the removed the bloat.
Actually, install 2.34.1 clean/deodexed from the forum, or install the original and deodex/jit/clean yourself.
I think soon will be available a stable froyo.
So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Your post should be a sticky or a FAQ. This makes perfect sense and really cleared up any confusion I had. Thanks!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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never knew what AOSP stood for, so thanks for that!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
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I have been playing with ROMs for last few months and could not figure this out until this post.
thanks
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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I agree with the rest, thank you for the insight on what the ROMS mean... I am currently running CM7 Nightly build #17, only issue I still have is playing a video and a qcp file...sigh anyhow great stuff and thanks again
nocode99 said:
So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
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http://t3hh4xx0r.com/ check here for some gingerbread
Removing gingerbread rom HELP!
I am new to the xda websites and forums alltogether. I rooted my phone about 3 weeks ago, and found a rom by xda to try an alpha version of gingerbread. I need to return my phone to either the rooted stage it was previously to adding the gingerbread, or completely unroot it altogether. I imagine that someone has probably posted about this already, but I was unable to find it. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse my idiocy.
Here is probably the best place to start researching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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Wrath_unleashed said:
Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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The post that you quoted was from January. I assure you that it was correct at the time
Here's one. I'm running it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113507&page=63
Hello, noob here, so be gentle. I want to install gingerbread on my desire but not sure which one to go for. What's the best one Oxygen 2.0 RC7, cyanogenmod cm7, etc.
Also one thing I'm not sure, when I go to the page of roms for the desire and click on the Gingerbread roms I'm given a list of different rom so I though I think Oxygen 2.0 might be the best so I might try this one but then I go to another page and it's about the rom and the download link is there but I have two options and not sure if I need to download only the first one (Oxygen 2.0 - RC7) cause below I also have this link to download Oxygen v1.0.4 (Froyo stable).
So do I download the first only, or both or oxygen v.1.0.4 only ?
And do i need to bother with any other files like radio, gapps...
I'm running 2.2 vodafone
Thank a lot for any advice.
What you like best is up to you.
Oxygen comes with Gapps, on Cyanogenmod you have to flash them yourself. If you go for Oxygen just download RC7, not the old froyo one, and flash it. No real need to change the radio but if you want you can change to the recommended one.
oh, i get it now. Yeah, will try oxygen as i want gapps. Exciting... Thanks a lot
Try Cm7 Its really getting stable by the day.. and it does not stop at rc7
I've had GingerVillain for a couple of weeks and I'd recommend looking at this too. Video camera working (although not yet at 720p), everything else works fine (wifi, gps, bluetooth). Included are lots of the cyanogenmod tweaks as well.
Very stable and runs well with eViollets 'battery efficient' kernel for longer battery life.
Personally I'd do some more reading up first on these.
Anything AOSP based is going to have boot-loop issues, video cameras are hacks at best etc.
I'm still running oxygen (latest test build) but it doesn't come without it's warnings.
Next couple of weeks should see the N1 OTA update and some fairly significant progress in GB for desire.
Excuse my ignorance but what is asop based ?
I also read somewhere that froyo is the last update for the desire. No more...
AOSP = Android Open Source Project...that's what all of these custom ROMs (CM7, Oxygen, etc.) are built on.
FroYo may be the last official update but, as you can see, the AOSP devs have Gingerbread running on it so you will see support for the Desire as long as the hardware supports it.
need to stick a better rom than the one i am running on the phone at the moment as it is quite old now and hasnt been updated for ages. i am currently using one of the camera mods to enable my green lense camera to shoot high def.
i see the greenbread mod will allow me the chance to have high def video recording on a gingerbread rom and so my question is.
which 2.3 rom should i choose that works with the greenbread mod, that will give good battery life (minimum of 24 hours medium useage), that is fast, stable and if possible can be themed?
thanks in advance
Which ROM are you on at the moment?
You can take last CM7 nightlies, battery drain is solved and it's the fastest ROM.
If you want an official ROM, take CEE or Nordic.
rom on at the moment is the old leaked froyo 3.4.2.117.
Is cee or nordic 2.3? i thought they were 2.2.
thought about cm7 but i dont think greenbread mod works on there. correct me if i am wrong cos if i am then i will jump on the cm7 bandwagon gladly.
Sorry, sorry and sorry !
Yes, CEE and Nordic are 2.2 and yes, greenbread mod doesn't work yet on CM7...
Try this Rom >>
MS2Froyo 2.2.2 and MS2Ginger 2.3.4 (10.08.2011) blur, 720p record
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
How' bout installing last CyanogenMod nightly ( Cm7-110909-07-Jordan ) ¿?
110909 ?? Back to the future...
What is the color of your camera lens?
one2wan said:
You can take last CM7 nightlies, battery drain is solved and it's the fastest ROM.
If you want an official ROM, take CEE or Nordic.
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where can I find this? The cyanogenmod nightlies section is blank on their website?
Sometimes it wobbles under load (lots of people downloading) - wait a while and try again ... http://defy.tanguy.tk/jordan-nightly/ is the one I use and its pretty damn reliable overall....
THBlurism said:
Try this Rom >>
MS2Froyo 2.2.2 and MS2Ginger 2.3.4 (10.08.2011) blur, 720p record
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
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thanks bud i will give it a go.
it amazes me the number of replies from people who dont actually read the op properly!
i may yet try cm7...
does anybody know if i can enable the camera mod for the green lens that allows 848x640 video? i am using that mod at the moment and it works perfect. in all honesty if i could enable this then i would more than likely go with cm7.
so if anyone knows let me know if not the rom above looks like the winner.
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
Dutchship said:
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
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There are a few options available too you really.
1. Just perform the upgrade to the latest 2.2.2 defy froyo rom doing this will keep all the motoblur features.
2. CM7 Is a great aosp rom which is highly customizable i use it on all my handsets light, fast and stable. But no motoblur.
3. You can use a fixed sbf to goto 2.3.6 gingerbread with moto blur, and use the greenbread mod for camera fix, the reason i say use a fixed sbf is so you can downgarde back to 2.2 incase you dont like it, whatever you do, dont flash a full gingerbread sbf as you wont be able to downgrade.
4. Try one of the many custom roms in the dev section but i cannot give you any input on these as i only use cm7.
Dutchship said:
I am interested in upgrading Mrs Dutchship's Green-eyed Defy as it has begun to occasionally misbehave. It has remained on the original UK 2.1 ROM since new around 13 months ago and needs a refresh.
The main criteria for a new ROM (in order of importance):
1. Stable / Reliable
2. Familiar (Moto style ROM with that Blur rubbish (although the Social Networking stuff is not used))
3. Needs Swype (is it possible to add this to any ROM?)
4. Not rubbish battery life (undervoltable would be great)
5. Easy install with no ongoing support required (for me)
I think the options are to either factory reset the current ROM, update it to a factory 2.2 ROM, to a dejunked Motorola 2.2 ROM (if they exist), or try a wholly custom ROM (CM7, despite looking at first glance to not be 100% reliable?)
If anybody could recommend any of these it'd be most helpful. Based on my experience with a Desire HD I'd go for a tidied up / improved stock ROM if possible, but would be happy to hear other suggestions.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for Yet another What ROM thread!
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Try CM 7.1 Stable Version by Quarx. You won't regret it man! and you can download Swype beta version directly from swype.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156855
I USE THIS FOR A WHILE.. ITS STABLE, BETTER BATTERY LIFE, AND BEAUTY SENSE STYLE, MotoGinger Teaser v5.1-deblur (android 2.3.4) (POST#2)
furrabbit.nh said:
There are a few options available too you really.
1. Just perform the upgrade to the latest 2.2.2 defy froyo rom doing this will keep all the motoblur features.
2. CM7 Is a great aosp rom which is highly customizable i use it on all my handsets light, fast and stable. But no motoblur.
3. You can use a fixed sbf to goto 2.3.6 gingerbread with moto blur, and use the greenbread mod for camera fix, the reason i say use a fixed sbf is so you can downgarde back to 2.2 incase you dont like it, whatever you do, dont flash a full gingerbread sbf as you wont be able to downgrade.
4. Try one of the many custom roms in the dev section but i cannot give you any input on these as i only use cm7.
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walter79's ROMs (modified motorola ROM's) are held in high regard here. You can check out a few...I personally don't not know which ones are good, but you can definitely tell by reading around a bit
Man u have been choking ur defy's neck all this time
Get on a custom Rom asap !!
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