So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Your post should be a sticky or a FAQ. This makes perfect sense and really cleared up any confusion I had. Thanks!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
never knew what AOSP stood for, so thanks for that!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been playing with ROMs for last few months and could not figure this out until this post.
thanks
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with the rest, thank you for the insight on what the ROMS mean... I am currently running CM7 Nightly build #17, only issue I still have is playing a video and a qcp file...sigh anyhow great stuff and thanks again
nocode99 said:
So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://t3hh4xx0r.com/ check here for some gingerbread
Removing gingerbread rom HELP!
I am new to the xda websites and forums alltogether. I rooted my phone about 3 weeks ago, and found a rom by xda to try an alpha version of gingerbread. I need to return my phone to either the rooted stage it was previously to adding the gingerbread, or completely unroot it altogether. I imagine that someone has probably posted about this already, but I was unable to find it. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse my idiocy.
Here is probably the best place to start researching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Wrath_unleashed said:
Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The post that you quoted was from January. I assure you that it was correct at the time
Here's one. I'm running it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113507&page=63
Related
I have only come across one so far, Pinky did a rom without sense for android fans as it was put, and it's a great rom. Anyone know of any others?
OpenDesire, completely built from source and is stock Android 2.2
Cheers I will check it.
Go with Cyanogen Mod mate
To echo what the previous two guys have said - Cyanogen and OpenDesire are the two most used non-sense ROMs available...
OpenDesire has pretty much all the features of Cyanogen but a handy update program as well which is easier than flashing your phone with the newest ROM all the time. OpenDesire is also usually updated pretty frequently.
We have got many good developers here working on different ROMS.
I just would like to know what ROM are you all using at the moment and why.
I used most of the time Sense rom from Leedroid. I love his boot image and the fact it is sense rom. I tried Sense HD and I like it, but until the camera works is no good for me for day to day use. Last couple of days I use MIUI and it is really different but nice (like iphone OS but on better device)
I've used Defrost, Opendesire, Villainrom, SupervillainHD and Oxygen. Like the ASOP roms the best, as they are the fastest, allow me to choose the addons more (not 3 or more programs for one task, if i don't want to use Sense apps), and are more versatily (at least, appear to me to be so).
Moved to general as this is in no way pertaining to ROM development.
fair enough. I just tought the poll might help people to choose a rom to use/try.
I am using pinky desire classsic at the moment .
CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
using pays sense rom
tried auraxtsense rom, but reverted back to pays
it has the best dialer i have seen in a rom.
would like to try sense HD, but wont until they fix the camera
inkredi said:
CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never really tried CM rom. i have to give it a go.
What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
EddyOS said:
What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
On that assumption I voted stock as I'm running the stock 2.29.405.2 WWE ROM
Why? As it does all I need it to
OpenDesire
I went from stock ROM to OpenDesire 4.0.36. I do not miss Sense at all and BT keyboard now works (why, HTC, oh why?). The only thing I miss from Sense is the weather widget.
Too bad OpenDesire will not be updated any longer as from the final 4.1 version. I hope it gets Gingerbread (2.3) in the final build.
Leedroid, because it has apps2sd by default and is pretty clean and has some other nice little touches (but still pretty close to stock) like a transparent notification drawer
I tried all rom types, but in the end I return to Sense. People who say AOSP or Cyanogen are faster have clearly never used a sense rom. It's at least on par and scrolling is smoother.
CrimzonEyed said:
By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes that's exactly what I mean
Teppic74's Rom and tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
With the GPU and SD card patched kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819601
And a theme I made using UOT kitchen.
I like sense, and I wanted something relatively close to stock but with A2SD and a few other bits and pieces.
I want to start of by apologizing if this is a question that is answered somewhere else. I DID search and checked all of the 'similar threads' before posting.
I am wondering what the difference is between a froyo kernel and a gingerbread kernel. I don't really need super specific technical details, just the semi-technical general answer.
The reason I ask is because I am running the Incredibly Re-engineered (v2.3.2) with the incredikernel v2.6.32.27 and noticed that the incredikernel thread got updated.
Incredikernel Thread
In the update, there is listed a froyo and a gingerbread specific kernel. Do you have to chose a specific one for a specific rom? If so, how do you know which one to chose.
My About Phone screen shows "Android Version 2.2" so I assume that means I need the froyo kernel?
Edit: I also noticed that I didn't finish the thread title. I meant to put Froyo or Gingerbread Kernel... Can this be changed after posting? I'm not the best with forums.
You are exactly correct, you would use the Froyo kernel. Froyo is 2.2, Gingerbread is 2.3, and you need to use a kernel for whichever version of Android you are running.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
the gingerbread kernels are for gingerbread based roms like CM7 you want the froyo one if you are still running android OS 2.2 ( look in the "about phone" tab in settings to confirm. also keep in mind that there are differant froyo kernels as well there is sense based kerners and AOSP kernels.
So the sense based kernels are based off of the HTC kernel? and AOSP is the completely open source project done by the community? How do you find out which type of rom you are running, other than looking on the forum/web page? Is there a spot in your phone settings that will list this? I've never seen one that I can remember.
Well, it's a matter of what flavor of Android the kernel is made for that determines if it's a Sense kernel or an AOSP one. As far as determining the ROM type, I am not aware of anything that specifically gives it away other than the general feeling of Sense verses the general feeling of AOSP; with Sense you have all the HTC widgets and apps, unless it's a Sense-less ROM.
TL;DR, your best bet is to just note what kind of ROM it is when you download.
Ok. Thanks for all of the help.
Hopefully any other newbies out there who have the same questions might get some use from this too.
You are certainly welcome.
I am currently running kingdom stock sense 3.0 and my ? Is does anyone know of any good kernels to go with this ROM? This will be my first kernel I look into installing so I'm still gathering info before I actually do it so any info is greatly appreciated.
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App
There aren't any kernels that will work with that rom aside from the stock one that comes with it.
To further explain as far as I understand it:
Since the sense 3.0 roms are based on leaked versions of gingerbread, we do not have access to the full source required to customize the kernel. Older Froyo kernels are not compatible, so we have to use the stock one that came with the leak. Be patient however, since we are supposed to be getting the official gingerbread OTA "soon" (current rumor is by the end of the month), and HTC has launched a developer's site, that should provide even more resources in the near future.
Awesome thanks for the info
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App
carpemortis said:
To further explain as far as I understand it:
Since the sense 3.0 roms are based on leaked versions of gingerbread, we do not have access to the full source required to customize the kernel. Older Froyo kernels are not compatible, so we have to use the stock one that came with the leak. Be patient however, since we are supposed to be getting the official gingerbread OTA "soon" (current rumor is by the end of the month), and HTC has launched a developer's site, that should provide even more resources in the near future.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, i am currently running Synergy Nightlies (6/13). Everything seems alright, battery is a little questionable but not horrible, but am interested to see what kind of improvements i can make to it.
There are quite a few ROMs available, but one thing is not entirely clear to me. Why aren't there any clean AOSP ROMs for the Wildfire? I can understand it would be difficult to develop newer Android versions like Gingerbread that were never officially released for the Wildfire, but wouldn't it be relativly easy to compile a working ROM from the 2.2/2.2.1 source code? Or am I completely missing the point here?
It seems to me all the materials are available to pull this off without too much effort, right? The Kernel source is available from HTC and the Froyo source from our friends at Google.
From what I understand there are also some vendor specific issues that need to be solved, but the Cyanogen developers apparently have this solved already.
That pretty much covers everything right?
So my question would be, is it possible to easily build a clean version of Froyo for the Wildfire by doing the following:
1. Grab the kernel source from HTC and compile it (or just fuse a pre-compiled one seeing as there are quite a few available).
2. Compile the Android 2.2/2.2.1 source
3. Apply vendor specific fixes (assuming they don't have to be incorperated in the code directly).
4. Flash kernel + ROM, thereafter Gapps
5. win?
Basically something like Openfire without bugs. Which reminds me, wouldn't the video recording/SIM card issues be fixed with the official HTC kernel? In which case, I see little reason to try and compile the stuff by myself.
Ah well, I really really hope someone can enlighten me on this subject.
TL;DR: I want to create a basic a clean AOSP Froyo 2.2/2.2.1 ROM which should be easy right because we already have the required materials (proper HTC kernel -- or third party one, 2.2/2.2.1 source, cyanogen vendor fixes), so compile = good to go?
there are
- Wildmix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155032
- CM6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
- Utmost http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862561
- Openfire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783024
more here (scroll down) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
There is always CM7
Remember you use these at your own risk
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
Trademark225 said:
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have news for you
We are currently working on a ROM with the aosp ROM you linked as base ...
Stay tuned
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Premium App
He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
nejc121 said:
He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got that after posting that
But gingerbread is much better than froyo and compatible to nearly all apps you can have
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Premium App
Anyway what's wrong with gingerbread??
I figured since 2.2.1 is the last available official version released it would be easier to get all hardware functioning properly. But if those new ginger AOSP projects fix the video recording bugs and get everything else fixed, ill gladly switch to it. Maybe ill use xdbg's (spelling?) ginger aosp as a base as soon ss the bugs are fixed.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App