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How to improve 3G?

Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?

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God's honst truth man... if thats all you get... thats all you are going to get because sprints 3g network is the worst i have ever seen. Bar none. Even little us cellular has better coverage and twice the data speeds as sprint does here in iowa.
There is no possible way for the phine or any hack to it to speed up sprints crap network.
My advise to you is to cqll sprint and plead your case, that you paid for 3g and are getting 1x rtt speeds 24/7 and politely demand a credit to your account like i do every month.
And then call back about 5 minutes later and ask to speak to the retention center because you want to cancel your service because you arpe not getting service you are paying for.
Then tell the retention persion you were thinking of getting the Airave but cant afford it and see if they will give it to you free on the basis of poor service and they typically will.
I did, and got one for when i am at work and the boss wont let me use it because it uses works internet for voice and data.
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Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.

I know in the old days of 3g internet hacks Sanyo phones had a data cap screen that was accessible via ##040793##. From there you could change the data rate, 144K/230K. Not sure if we have the same here but phone codes may be a place to start.

Mmmmhmmm. Just be glad you don't have the epic and are capped at 150kbps up.
I think sprint has finally gotten 2 good phones and 4g, so now they think they're the top dog and can do whatever they damn well please...it's like a cycle with them. Bad service>>>loose all of their customers>>>cheap, semi-good service>>>get customers back>>>become assholes again>>>loose their customers...

werxen said:
Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.
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lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?

Last-Chance said:
lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?
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Well Verizon has amazing android phones for one. There is a data cap for ATT which is true but no cap for Verizon. You know now that I think about it I might do the force roam hack on my Evo and see if if I get better 3g speeds.

I have no idea what any if you are talking about, I get better 3g speeds on Sprint then I ever did with any other carrier I've had.
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am I doing something wrong?
on 3g I pull down at least 512 up
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werxen said:
Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?
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I wish I could get speeds that fast consistently. Actually what you are getting is right about on par for 3g. That's prob the avg speed one would expect to get. There are higher areas and lower areas depending on a lot of things. A 100KB connection is nothing to complain about. I've personally never had a connection over 150 KB.
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Not sure if its sprint or my phone but I can't break 40kbs down on anything and 3g cuts out all the time. Crappy....

The first thing I would do to verify your 3g speeds is to unroot your phone, and make sure you are running the latest .93 hboot release and sprint ota release. If your phone is already in this state (un rooted and latest hboot) then ignore me.
You should also look into unrevoked forever if you haven't already...it runs off the current hboot, and I've noticed that something about that hboot does help 3g speeds on some rooted phones if you go that route.
I've done a ton of research and practical testing on this subject and I can say without a doubt that the evo's current rooting methods DO have a negative impact on some 3g phones in some areas. And I'm not talking about 100 or 200 kbps here or there. In the same house, same phone, 1 rooted and 1 not. That was the ONLY difference. The rooted phone got 7 kbps. The stock got 1800kbps. I swapped phone setups so that the rooted one was now unrooted and vice versa. That time the rooted one got 47kbps and unrooted was 1681 kbps...in other words the problem followed the rooting process, and not the phone. I've done dozens of tests like this and others in various areas within the surrounding wilmington delaware area.
I have access to 3 rooted evos, 1 evo that is always stock, as well as a samsung moment. The 4 evos are all rev 3 nova. I also did similar tests on the hero with the same sorts of results. Feel free to pm me or post here with any questions.
EDIT: the kbps numbers I listed were for download speeds. Upload speeds on both rooted and unrooted, regardless of build or boot version, were consistent at around 600 -700 kbps during almost all of my testing.
EDIT2: I forgot to say - this problem also happened to me when I changed recoveries from clockwork to AmonRA. So it's not JUST the rooting process that can cause this, but several low-level engineering commands, such as flashing a kernel, upgrading a ROM, etc.
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That's pretty crappy, I get full 3g pretty much everywhere around St. Louis until I get out to the country. And pretty good 4g around town. My 3g is about 1.5mb down. 4g is 5 to 7mb down.
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Flash the PRL to connect to Verizon's towers. I get 1.2 mb/s even see 2mb/s occasionally. Of course ping times are raised.

It's pretty hit or miss here, one day I will get 50-150k down and the next it will be +1meg. Next time it get drops below 500 you can bet I will be talking to somebody about it though, their advertised 3G speed is 600kb - 1.5mb.
100kb is ridiculous

I get anywhere between 500-1mb down 100-200kb up. My 4G easily does between 2-6mb down and 1mb up. People just love to complain. You didn't realize this within your 30 day trial? If so, why didn't you switch carriers?

What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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You live in an area with poor coverage or your phone has a faulty radio.
I get good signal and up/Downs on 3g. If I nandriod away from cm6, I can get 6-7mb down and 1mb up with 4g in San leandro CA.

evohack99 said:
What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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Speedtest... its in the market.
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I think it is my radio. I was getting fine speeds up until 3 days ago when I noticed severe loading lag in my tethered apps. I get decent pings ~ 200-300ms which is not too out of the ordinary. I did a speed test other day and it was 50KB/s down and 70KB/s up. I figured it was just a faulty day but it has gone on far too long now. This is with 5/5 bars too... Just gotta wait for my new Evo to come in. Seems like every hardware ****up is happening at once.

how is it possible that 2 phones, running same network, different speeds

so i tested two galaxy nexus phones right next to each other running same network using speedtest.net and got much different speeds. one was averaging around 7 mbs, the other was 10 mbs. That's a big difference. how could this be? i switched the sim cards and one was still faster.

wasya152 said:
so i tested two galaxy nexus phones right next to each other running same network using speedtest.net and got much different speeds. one was averaging around 7 mbs, the other was 10 mbs. That's a big difference. how could this be? i switched the sim cards and one was still faster.
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Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.

This is far from scientific lol. You need to do several tests with one then the other and average all the results to get a decent comparison. Even then you could have problems. There could be hundreds of other people accessing things on the network/tower site which leaves you with less than accurate results.

milan03 said:
Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.
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i did not run at same time. i ran one and then the other. i noticed that when i ran together, it got messed up. so i ran the test in sequence.

martonikaj said:
This is far from scientific lol. You need to do several tests with one then the other and average all the results to get a decent comparison.
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i ran maybe like 12 tests. each time one phone was getting higher speeds consistently than other. it wasn't like it was less than 1 mbps apart. it was like 3 mbps apart. i'm kinda upset because the display on mine is much better. the other one seems to have a yellow tint to it, but it's twice as fast as mine most cases.

As said, you need to run several tests over several hours and several days. Then take an average.
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wasya152 said:
i ran maybe like 12 tests. each time one phone was getting higher speeds consistently than other. it wasn't like it was less than 1 mbps apart. it was like 3 mbps apart. i'm kinda upset because the display on mine is much better. the other one seems to have a yellow tint to it, but it's twice as fast as mine most cases.
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12 tests is nothing. Look at my signature and 199 tests i've done just during the first week Rezound was released. Don't be so quick to judge the phone's RF performance.
Also make sure the APNs are exactly the same on both phones, put them both in airplane mode for a few minutes then back online so they hopefully connect to the same carrier/sector. Then try again.

but the phones are in the same location at the same time. shouldn't they get same speed

wasya152 said:
but the phones are in the same location at the same time. shouldn't they get same speed
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No.
Read the third post in this thread..
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milan03 said:
Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.
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What are you talking about? lol
The carrier should have more than enough bandwidth to let 20 phones right next to each other get around the same speed (many more than 20, but just an example). It's ridiculous to think that the carrier isn't set up in a way that would allow that.
Using 2 phones directly next to each other will *not* negatively impact their speeds. That's completely ridiculous.

While I agree it shouldn't matter, but perhaps the tower is maxed out and only has 17mbps to give out...
Perhaps they are on two different towers. 2 different Sims.
Do the airplane mode trick and try swapping SIMs. Try doing 1 then the other repeatedly, of the course of several minutes and average.
The current test is too bland to find the culprit.
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hotleadsingerguy said:
What are you talking about? lol
The carrier should have more than enough bandwidth to let 20 phones right next to each other get around the same speed (many more than 20, but just an example). It's ridiculous to think that the carrier isn't set up in a way that would allow that.
Using 2 phones directly next to each other will *not* negatively impact their speeds. That's completely ridiculous.
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Ok, I have no idea where are you from, but here in The USofA and especially in NYC if you try speedtesting two devices in front of the same tower you'll be seeing just about half the throughput you would normally see if one device was tested alone. In NYC for instance we have 4 carriers per AT&T tower and since AT&T is still using 16QAM you'll be maxing out at 14.4mbps. If you're connected on the same carrier/band, same tower and running two hspa+ devices at the same time you're seeing 7-8mbps max. And I'm talking it's you alone, 4AM, no one else on the carrier.
No need to get all emotional over this, it's a fact.

It could honestly be something as simple as when you ran the second test (or whichever was slower) the network was under a bit more stress. It can change every second, so a difference 20 seconds later could definitely be possible. I could run 5 tests in a row here on the same device and get a difference of around 20% between them.

What player911 said. Swap the SIMs, see if it actually is a phone issue. Could be one of your SIMs is just older and doesn't have the newer/faster APN info.
Actually, before swapping SIMs, check the APN info, see if you're using the same HSPA+ servers. I know some people were complaining about slow speeds and went to the AT&T store and asked for an Atrix (or 4G) SIM card and they got their speeds up. The older SIM had the older APN data (manually changing the APN info in the phone works too).

milan03 said:
Ok, I have no idea where are you from, but here in The USofA and especially in NYC if you try speedtesting two devices in front of the same tower you'll be seeing just about half the throughput you would normally see if one device was tested alone. In NYC for instance we have 4 carriers per AT&T tower and since AT&T is still using 16QAM you'll be maxing out at 14.4mbps. If you're connected on the same carrier/band, same tower and running two hspa+ devices at the same time you're seeing 7-8mbps max. And I'm talking it's you alone, 4AM, no one else on the carrier.
No need to get all emotional over this, it's a fact.
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That's weird because I used to live in Manhattan and used AT&T. My ex was on the family plan with me and we both had identical devices (iPhone 3GS, at the time). I'd run at least one or 2 sets per week at the same time and get around the same results in the apartment. Running them at the same time or running them consecutively had absolutely no effect.
Now I'm back in Cleveland and the same is true.
So *maybe* you're experiencing a random slowdown and you're attributing it to the hypothesis you've created. I'm not the one getting emotional (or defensive). It's ridiculous to think that the tower would only have 14.4Mbps to distribute across *ALL* of the customers using that connection. If you think that's true you should probably do a bit more homework into cellular network technology.
For reference, I just asked my father about this (I've been on the phone with him while writing this). He's worked at AT&T for 42 years (through its various iterations) and is currently one of the heads of the cellular upgrade division (mostly installing LTE hardware and such). He suggested you get a better understanding of how symptoms link to maladies before creating hypotheses.

Ever considered the hundreds of others in the tower area who are torrenting, downloading, streaming, etc, on an off many times in seconds of time?
7-10 mbps for each GSM handset is pretty darn impressive under any conditions...
The tower you are using isn't your own personal tower, you know...

hotleadsingerguy said:
That's weird because I used to live in Manhattan and used AT&T. My ex was on the family plan with me and we both had identical devices (iPhone 3GS, at the time). I'd run at least one or 2 sets per week at the same time and get around the same results in the apartment. Running them at the same time or running them consecutively had absolutely no effect.
Now I'm back in Cleveland and the same is true.
So *maybe* you're experiencing a random slowdown and you're attributing it to the hypothesis you've created. I'm not the one getting emotional (or defensive). It's ridiculous to think that the tower would only have 14.4Mbps to distribute across *ALL* of the customers using that connection. If you think that's true you should probably do a bit more homework into cellular network technology.
For reference, I just asked my father about this (I've been on the phone with him while writing this). He's worked at AT&T for 42 years (through its various iterations) and is currently one of the heads of the cellular upgrade division (mostly installing LTE hardware and such). He suggested you get a better understanding of how symptoms link to maladies before creating hypotheses.
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Ok here we go again...
First of all iPhone 3GS was 7.2mbps device but it only had 384kbps upload speed which was so disproportionate and was effectively throttling the user experience and anything over 4.5mbps under the real world conditions was equivalent to miracle. So you shouldn't have any problems running multiple 3GSs on the same carrier.
Secondly, NYC is not an LTE market, they still run 16QAM network, as someone said earlier (17mbps per sector video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73zZtMF95SU) their backhaul is not necessarily as hot as let's say Dallas or Houston. Why? Only AT&T knows that but NYC is probably one of their worst markets in the entire nation. So we have 4 carriers per tower, each one of them is 16QAM, which effectively caps you to 14.4mbps even on a 21mbps category 14 smartphone (video2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkeSJH5uSM) . During the business hours when millions of users get on those 4 carriers, speeds are slower than EDGE. AT&T is lacking cell density, they need to refarm more unused spectrum, or simply deploy LTE to NYC right away before San Juan or Oklahoma City for instance.
You understood me wrong, I didn't say that a tower has 14.4mbps (21mbps) to distribute to everyone, I said one carrier/band is, and in most market you have more than one carrier. We have two 850Mhz and two 1900Mhz PCS carriers in NYC.
And while you're on the phone with your dad, mind asking him why there isn't LTE already deployed in NYC, SF, or LA before other non saturated markets like Oklahoma City, Athens, etc..
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I tried swapping the sims. the speeds improved, but the other phone was still getting higher speeds. my phone was getting around 7 while the other one was 10. also, on that phone I've seen the speeds at 10 multiple times, but not once on mine.

I also went to tmobile and got a new sim card today. at same location, I have yet to see anything over 7 still. I'm pretty sure at this point its three phone.

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Modem?

Just wondering, what's the best modem for the SGS2? Right now I'm using the modem from the Blaze but don't really get good speeds and sometimes loses signal all together. Is there a better one?
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Different modems work differently for each person depending on their location, kernel, and ROM. Just gotta try em and see what works best for you.
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You really aren't giving us a lot to go by. Here is my experience, if you are interested:
I use Samsung Galaxy SGH-T989D flashed with BestMod 5.0 Gingerbread with the TELUS modem (KJ3), then the T-Mobile one (UVKL1), and finally the Blaze one (UVLB7). I tried all 3 and all 3 worked, but not quite the same. I am on a local carrier in Canada called Mobilicity, a startup running on a single band (AWS 1700Mhz) with barely enough towers to cover the area it claims to serve, which is parts of the GTA (Toronto) + parts of a few other major cities. Signal isn't exactly stellar, and there are dead spots, especially downtown. This is normal, this carrier is barely 2 years old. What I was looking for is reliable data: I don't care for speed too much, honestly there isn't much speed to be had with any modem.
Enter the TELUS modem:
This one worked well overall, I used it for 4 months as it shipped with my handset (T989D is the TELUS version of the handset), and noticed that it behaves quite well. Speeds are okay, I guess, but nowhere near what people claim they are getting on more established carriers here like TELUS, Rogers and Bell. If I get 1Mbps download, I feel happy. Signal strength hovers around the 50% mark here at home, which translates to about 500kbps download and 100kbps upload during peak hour, but is okay at work: I see 3 towers from there versus only 1 from home. I haven't had complaints about indoor coverage (except for the subway and the elevators for obvious reasons). I haven't had too many dropped calls, but data is shaky when I venture a few streets away from major intersections. I was questioning if I can do better.
Enter the BLAZE modem:
I ran it for a grand total of 5-10 minutes. In these 5-10 minutes it didn't perform in any way better than the TELUS one, and it gave me no indication that it would beat any aspect of its performance. It gave me the overall impression of being a bit shaky, which is to be expected given that it is meant for a different model handset. Other users in this form reported similar experiences, and they ran it for a lot longer than mere minutes, so I didn't try very hard to get this one to work. Data was fluctuating too wildly for my taste, but when it performed well, it performed as good as the TELUS modem.
Enter the T-Mobile modem:
Now this was the modem that interested me. I've been running it for about 2 hours now, and I am about to leave it on for a little while. Overall impression is that it gives me better signal strength, which hopefully would translate into more reliable performance. Data wasn't any faster than with the TELUS modem. No speed increase, but at home I get around the 60% mark for signal strength. I am cautiously optimistic that I might finally see the coveted 4G icon in the office (quite unlikely, but I am a dreamer. Ask me on Monday.)
So there you have it: all 3 modems perform, the first and the last perform well. The middle one is shaky. Data isn't getting any faster no matter what I do, but I appear to be getting slightly improved reception with the T-Mobile modem. Something about this modem is optimized for the AWS band.
Hope this helps.

[Q] Is there an NK2 radio in a .zip flashable format?

Has anyone made a zip for the new radio?

If I have time I will do it tonight. I'll post in in my rom thread. Just curious, why do you need the modem unless you haven't upgraded to NK2 via OTA or Odin tar?

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If I have time I will do it tonight. I'll post in in my rom thread. Just curious, why do you need the modem unless you haven't upgraded to NK2 via OTA or Odin tar?
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No, i have not taken the update. Doea the update wipe everything out? Im looking to kee0 things as they are but get the newer radio files due to spotty lte in a sprk covered area.

hammerchucker said:
Has anyone made a zip for the new radio?
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I have NK2 on my phone and it did nothing to improve my .5 to 1Mbs LTE in a SPARK area. So not real sure this is even worth your effort.

Solarenemy68 said:
I have NK2 on my phone and it did nothing to improve my .5 to 1Mbs LTE in a SPARK area. So not real sure this is even worth your effort.
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Having issues at work. I get the 40+ Mbit B41, its just that for some reason it wants to kick over to 3G fairly often. I have to do a few PRL updates to get back on it. I understand the B41 tower is a little ways away but i know from owning the note 2 that they have the slower B25 in the area too as i used to get it all the time with out issue and my note 4 never seems to connect to it, only B41.
Sprint said they are going to monitor me and my area and send me an update in a few days. They also suggested i take the new update but i dont really dont want start over right now so trying just the radio.

hammerchucker said:
Having issues at work. I get the 40+ Mbit B41, its just that for some reason it wants to kick over to 3G fairly often. I have to do a few PRL updates to get back on it. I understand the B41 tower is a little ways away but i know from owning the note 2 that they have the slower B25 in the area too as i used to get it all the time with out issue and my note 4 never seems to connect to it, only B41.
Sprint said they are going to monitor me and my area and send me an update in a few days. They also suggested i take the new update but i dont really dont want start over right now so trying just the radio.
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Many including myself are having low LTE speeds. I have been going back and fourth with Sprint for three weeks now and am on my second Note 4 with the same issue.
I got elevated to a Senior Tech and he said that Samsung has said there is an issue with some N4's and Sprints LTE according to a log only he and those at his level has access to. He advised having Samsung reflash it. So I took it to a lcal repair facility after getting a service ticket from Samsung which also took a week of phone calls back and fourth. They reflashed it today and it still has the same problem. Near their facility I got 25Mbs.
At home however I only get .5 to 1Mbs and according to their coverage map aI am in SPARK heaven.

It's not your phone, it's Sprint. I've been dealing with the exact same thing for years. They keep sauing they're working on the network but I've seen faster data speeds on disposable prepaid flip phones. Your data speeds will depend on the tower you're connected to. I don't know what's taking so long for Sprint to get their network coverage and dats speeds consistent throughout a region but it hasn't happened yet from my experience. I get around 1mb download and anywhere from 250kbps to 500is on uploads. The speeds on LTE at my house aren't great but in other parts of town it works a lot better. I assume Sprint doesn't consider certain areas a "priority" on their upgrade list. So you can stop thinking it's your phone because I doubt very seriously that's the problem, I used to think the exact same thing and went through several device swaps with the same results. Sprint will give you the runaround and point the finger at anything and everything as well as claim they are working on the towers/network. Well they've been working on the towers around here since they introduced WiMax and the HTC EVO. Yes I've seen big improvements with data speeds and coverage but after this much time I expected a lot better data speeds. Like I said, Sprint doesn't consider some areas a priority and they don't do much to improve or upgrade in those places because it's not lucritive or cost effective due to the customer base in that given area. Now other places where you would expect very good service but only see 3G speeds on LTE, there's just no excuse for that because Sprint has had a LOT of time to get the network up to par with the likes of T-Mobile etc. It is what it is.

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It's not your phone, it's Sprint. I've been dealing with the exact same thing for years. They keep sauing they're working on the network but I've seen faster data speeds on disposable prepaid flip phones. Your data speeds will depend on the tower you're connected to. I don't know what's taking so long for Sprint to get their network coverage and dats speeds consistent throughout a region but it hasn't happened yet from my experience. I get around 1mb download and anywhere from 250kbps to 500is on uploads. The speeds on LTE at my house aren't great but in other parts of town it works a lot better. I assume Sprint doesn't consider certain areas a "priority" on their upgrade list. So you can stop thinking it's your phone because I doubt very seriously that's the problem, I used to think the exact same thing and went through several device swaps with the same results. Sprint will give you the runaround and point the finger at anything and everything as well as claim they are working on the towers/network. Well they've been working on the towers around here since they introduced WiMax and the HTC EVO. Yes I've seen big improvements with data speeds and coverage but after this much time I expected a lot better data speeds. Like I said, Sprint doesn't consider some areas a priority and they don't do much to improve or upgrade in those places because it's not lucritive or cost effective due to the customer base in that given area. Now other places where you would expect very good service but only see 3G speeds on LTE, there's just no excuse for that because Sprint has had a LOT of time to get the network up to par with the likes of T-Mobile etc. It is what it is.
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I follow S4GRU and they also indicate it is the towers that choose, which is frustrating esp. when it seemingly kicks to 3g as soon as i start streaming a video.
My issue is not data speeds (even B25 gives me upwards of 8Mbit which is pleanty for video streaming), its staying connected to LTE.
I at least want to have the new radios installed so i can tell them i have NK2. I want to follow their procees through and if i still have the problem staying connected to LTE then i want a monthly discount untill its fixed (which theyve given before when i was getting no 4G at all in my area.
I went to Sprint in 2010 for the EVO and the WiMax that was up in my area, but its been a long painful rollout of the LTE. The reasin I stay is the old unlimited everything plan i still have.

hammerchucker said:
I follow S4GRU and they also indicate it is the towers that choose, which is frustrating esp. when it seemingly kicks to 3g as soon as i start streaming a video.
My issue is not data speeds (even B25 gives me upwards of 8Mbit which is pleanty for video streaming), its staying connected to LTE.
I at least want to have the new radios installed so i can tell them i have NK2. I want to follow their procees through and if i still have the problem staying connected to LTE then i want a monthly discount untill its fixed (which theyve given before when i was getting no 4G at all in my area.
I went to Sprint in 2010 for the EVO and the WiMax that was up in my area, but its been a long painful rollout of the LTE. The reasin I stay is the old unlimited everything plan i still have.
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I get the same damn thing, start streaming video on lte and then the note 4 drops to 3g, streaming is unusable at that speed. My s4 streamed perfectly fine and locked lte in the exact same areas. All the excellent real estate and I can't use it except on the wifi I pay for. I have old plan that has unlimited data and I'm not using it, note 4... Out

Does band 12 work on T-Mobile?

Just making sure that band 12 works on the unlocked HTC 10 on T-Mobile. I know in the past many phones didn't have support for it right away.

Yes. Was on B12 all weekend while camping.

Yes works. Wi-Fi calling is also working. Yahoo
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In in the Seattle area and not getting the speeds I expected on LTE. I purchased the HTC10 directly, and accepted the OTA. Am currently on 1.53.617.5 with radio/baseband [email protected]_45.00_F. Max speeds achieved have been ~27M down and 7.5M up. I expected to have much better speeds than this - some are getting over 150M down on other devices.
Tried *#*#4636#*#* and selected GSM/WCDMA/LTE but still no better speeds. Curious what others are getting and if they are on same radio image.
Thanks!

stebaile said:
In in the Seattle area and not getting the speeds I expected on LTE. I purchased the HTC10 directly, and accepted the OTA. Am currently on 1.53.617.5 with radio/baseband [email protected]_45.00_F. Max speeds achieved have been ~27M down and 7.5M up. I expected to have much better speeds than this - some are getting over 150M down on other devices.
Tried *#*#4636#*#* and selected GSM/WCDMA/LTE but still no better speeds. Curious what others are getting and if they are on same radio image.
Thanks!
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Did others receive those speeds on the same tower and at the same time? If you are comparing tests done on different towers, or even just minutes apart the speeds can vary wildly.

stebaile said:
In in the Seattle area and not getting the speeds I expected on LTE. I purchased the HTC10 directly, and accepted the OTA. Am currently on 1.53.617.5 with radio/baseband [email protected]_45.00_F. Max speeds achieved have been ~27M down and 7.5M up. I expected to have much better speeds than this - some are getting over 150M down on other devices.
Tried *#*#4636#*#* and selected GSM/WCDMA/LTE but still no better speeds. Curious what others are getting and if they are on same radio image.
Thanks!
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Those are, in general, pretty good speeds. People only ever post the rare glam speed tests, but it's not like that's what people always get. Any given day, in a city, sharing a tower with a bunch of people, 27/7.5 is pretty good and excessively usable.

Where I am at the 10 is on par with other devices I have.
All the devices here give me between 65-75 with the occasional 85-90.
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I'm getting 5mbps D and 2mbps U where I'm at on ATT in LA this exact second.
It's not the phone, as mentioned it's the network and capacity/load at that time of day.
I've had 25mbps D connections but it's just not consistent depending on location and load.
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I work in the Seattle area frequently and a lot has to do with time of day, location, etc. You have a lot of high tech people in a very small area and while T-Mobile does better than everyone else there some times of day and areas in Seattle are just horrible.
Much of the problem is due to jurisdictions putting a lot of restrictions on new site construction as well as site upgrades...

Thanks everyone - I was downtown Redmond today and got much better speeds - around 75 down and 25 up. I'll try by Factoria in Bellevue next week - that's where they test the latest radios in this area and it typically has the fastest speeds.

When holding phone normally to talk, anyone had issues with other person not able to hear when phone switches to band 12? For the past couple of days I am trying to test my new unlocked HTC 10. I was in the mall (Bellevue Square), made a call and phone was on Band 4, then while walking, phone keeps switching from 4 to Band 12 and that is when people just can't hear me, but when phone goes back to band 4, then all is normal again.

Like everyone said, it does work. It did throw me for a loop when I started looking for it (when I first got the phone). As it turns out, TMobile lies about their coverage map Maybe lie is a strong word. They likely put future coverage on the map as if it was already covered. I had the misfortune of picking such an area.

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Like everyone said, it does work. It did throw me for a loop when I started looking for it (when I first got the phone). As it turns out, TMobile lies about their coverage map Maybe lie is a strong word. They likely put future coverage on the map as if it was already covered. I had the misfortune of picking such an area.
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I don't know if you were replying to my last comment? I know that phone supports Band 12 and does connect to it. I am more concerned about mic not working when phone is switching to Band 12 in the middle of a phone call. I re-tested many times and result is the same. Note 5 on other hand, works just fine.