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Trying to restore a backup with clockwork mod recovery

hello I just replaced a broken EVO and now that it is rooted I am trying to restore my old backup from my previous evo.. I am having a problem though
I go through all the normal process to restore a backup and everything works fine the super user permission pops up and the phone reboots but instead of rebooting directly into the reboot session it just boots me into the clockwork mod recovery recovery menu.. when i select the folder the recovery files are located in it shows up blank.. what am I doing wrong here? In the past when I selected to restore a backup from inside the os it just rebooted and started restoring automatically.. I feel like an extra step has now been added and I dont know what it is?

I should also not that while I do not know if it is related or not when I try to restore the backup from the nandroid section of the recovery menu it hangs on checking md5 sums and then says error while flashing boot image!
mind you this is on 2 separate backups I created in the past with clockwork mod recovery

It's probably not a good idea to use an old nandroid backup on a new phone. Think of how kernels run well on some EVO phones and not others. Your current phone might even be one of the EVOs with new hardware.
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ok but can I still get all my apps and data back?
it would be terrible to lose all of that

and now to make matters even worse my phone is stuck on an endless loop on clockwork mod recovery I every time I select reboot system now instead of it booting into the stock rooted rom it just reloads the clockwork mod recovery menu.. what gives?

yeah, not good to load a backup from a different phone. This has been documented as happening. Just reflash whatever rom you want then radios then kernel. Sorry but if you didn't use a backup prog I thinkyou will have to manually restore apps. You may want to try titanium backup, solves the problem, use it and follow the backup instructions in Titanium backup wiki on their web site and you should be good to go next time.

Did you try a battery pull and reboot?
Sent from my HTC EVO using XDA app

Nandroid backups are phone specific, you can't move them from phone to phone. You probably hosed your RSA keys which means your 4g may be broke. If I were you I would try to flash a stock rom and then reroot if needed. If that gets you out of the bootloop your in. You maybe visiting a Sprint store for a replacement phone again.

guys I could really use some help here please!
I went back to the stock rooted rom today.. all day I was adding apps making changes restarting the phone no problems.. I finally get my phone set up how I like it so I decided it was a great time to make a backup so I open clockwork mod recovery and select backup it gives me the superuser permissions prompt and restarts.. instead of starting the backup automatically it sends me directly to the clockwork mod recovery menu and now it will not load the phone's OS at all just reboot after reboot into clockwork mod recovery this is a 1 day old evo what is going on here!!??

KingKash420 said:
guys I could really use some help here please!
I went back to the stock rooted rom today.. all day I was adding apps making changes restarting the phone no problems.. I finally get my phone set up how I like it so I decided it was a great time to make a backup so I open clockwork mod recovery and select backup it gives me the superuser permissions prompt and restarts.. instead of starting the backup automatically it sends me directly to the clockwork mod recovery menu and now it will not load the phone's OS at all just reboot after reboot into clockwork mod recovery this is a 1 day old evo what is going on here!!??
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Hey that exact thing happened to me. it happened the first time i ever loaded anything on my phone. I freaked out. Turned out the Clockword mod recovery I had must have had something wrong. I went back into the part where you load the CWM from the computer. My phone is different than yours so I cant be sure but you go into bootloader by pressing stuff, its where the logo stays there the whole time. then you flash the CWM again. and then reload the operating system and stuff. should work but just redo the CWM again. Hope it works out for you. Hope thats what it is for you too.

[Q] Question about nandroid backing up.

I recently rooted and have been enjoying the different ROMS I am now able to use which makes my phone more enjoyable.
I wanted to ask something about backup's that I am a little confused on.
I know there are a few methods of backing up. I do the method of rebooting into recovery and backing up.
My question is, what exactly is this backing up? I would like the backup method to back up the whole ROM with everything I have set in place, kind of like a .img file of sorts on a PC.
I have been going back and forth between an ASOP (MIUI) ROM and a couple Sense based ROMS (MikFroyo and MYNS.) It is frustrating when going between each that I have to go through and reinstall everything and set it all up the way I like it.
Is there a method to create a image that I can just go into recovery, "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" then "Wipe Cache Partition" then "Calkulin's FORMAT_ALL" and then load up the saved image file that will have everthing in tact that I saved in the image file?
Thank you,
Whiteice

Simply back up everything (wimax, sd-ext, boot...) on the particular ROM you have set up, and then set up your next ROM. I use Amon_RA 2.2.1 and you can rename the actual nandroid backup to make it easier to remember which ROM it is. So you can pretty much do exactly what your asking. Once you've set them up, you can easily restore different ROMs.

You can backup an entire rom with rom manager with clockwork. It saves everything the way you left it, from your settings, apps, and even call log.

WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I recently rooted and have been enjoying the different ROMS I am now able to use which makes my phone more enjoyable.
I wanted to ask something about backup's that I am a little confused on.
I know there are a few methods of backing up. I do the method of rebooting into recovery and backing up.
My question is, what exactly is this backing up? I would like the backup method to back up the whole ROM with everything I have set in place, kind of like a .img file of sorts on a PC.
I have been going back and forth between an ASOP (MIUI) ROM and a couple Sense based ROMS (MikFroyo and MYNS.) It is frustrating when going between each that I have to go through and reinstall everything and set it all up the way I like it.
Is there a method to create a image that I can just go into recovery, "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" then "Wipe Cache Partition" then "Calkulin's FORMAT_ALL" and then load up the saved image file that will have everthing in tact that I saved in the image file?
Thank you,
Whiteice
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trust me if your not to sure about what you are doing at least try and get Amon on your phone. It IMO and quite a few others is safer than Clockwork. Clockwork and Rom Manager are for beginners I will admit but before something goes crazy try and flash over to Amon..
edit: to answer you question though nandroid is like system restore in windows... you will get back everything exactly as you left it.

the nandroid backup in your recovery mode does back up everything. once you back it up then flash whatever you are flashing and you dont like it, u just go back and click nandroid restore and it will go back to exactly how it was when u backed it up

Quick question in the new amon what do we check when making a backup.
I'm used to 2.2 and just hitting make a backup.

And just like someone said above, Rom Manager and clockwork may be for beginners but seasoned users also use this. I find it simple to use and flashed about 12 Roms in a couple of months and I have 6 backups stored in the Rom Manager backup list. Very simple to restore back to one of your saved backups as well as easy to save new ones.

And one thing I have picked up about AMon RA is that in the newer versions, make sure you toggle the verification to off so that if a rom or whatever it is you're trying to flash is unsigned, it will not give an error and you'll be able to download.

playya said:
trust me if your not to sure about what you are doing at least try and get Amon on your phone.
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couldn't have said it any better myself

shaglioni said:
And one thing I have picked up about AMon RA is that in the newer versions, make sure you toggle the verification to off so that if a rom or whatever it is you're trying to flash is unsigned, it will not give an error and you'll be able to download.
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Just to point out, the same can happen in clockworkmod.

Really? I was looking for an option about toggling verification on Clockwork but I couldn't find it anywhere. You know where that option is? I mean I haven't' had any errors using it but just in case.

shaglioni said:
Really? I was looking for an option about toggling verification on Clockwork but I couldn't find it anywhere. You know where that option is? I mean I haven't' had any errors using it but just in case.
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After you select install from zip, right before you check install form sd card, there should be the option on that screen to toggle signature verification.

That's awesome to know. I guess I never looked at that part of the screen before I flash something because I never get an error. So now if it happens I'll give it a thorough look over. Thanks a lot Roxxorz.

Oh, and you were commenting on the other thread in regards to King Ultra's rom animation. I replied back to that thread but I'm trying to get my own screename configured. Thanks for your input on that issue to but that's puzzling to me. I also have the Amon RA 1.8 version as I hear that's a good version to use as well on my SD in case I want to try it later on.

shaglioni said:
Oh, and you were commenting on the other thread in regards to King Ultra's rom animation. I replied back to that thread but I'm trying to get my own screename configured. Thanks for your input on that issue to but that's puzzling to me. I also have the Amon RA 1.8 version as I hear that's a good version to use as well on my SD in case I want to try it later on.
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So what exactly were you trying to do?

[Q] NANDroid Backup Question...

Hey everyone... I was wondering -
If I make a NANDroid back up of my stock froyo rooted ROM (ROM #1),
Do a full wipe and then flash another ROM (ROM #2) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #2,
Then do another full wipe and flash another ROM (ROM #3) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #3...etc etc...
My question is - Can I restore any given NAND BU to any given ROM, or Do i actually have to reflash that ROM to get it back on the phone?
I tried doing this with a NAND BU that I made with a ROM I had flashed... it got buggy and I ended up restoring my NAND BU from the stock ROM. Then I wanted to show some one the ROM I had flashed before and tried to restore the NAND BU I made of that particular ROM and it got 3 dots into the restore then said it couldnt be completed.
I am wondering if it couldnt be completed b/c the NAND BU was corrupted some how - or if this is actually not some thing you can do...
any info on this would be helpful...
JS3

yes you can do that. before you restore you may want to wipe the cache and dalvik just to make sure that is all cleared out (unless you also do backups of the cache)
What recovery are you running when the restore failed? i am guessing amon, so when you get an error you should move the log to sd so you can check out what exactly the error was

elegantai said:
yes you can do that. before you restore you may want to wipe the cache and dalvik just to make sure that is all cleared out (unless you also do backups of the cache)
What recovery are you running when the restore failed? i am guessing amon, so when you get an error you should move the log to sd so you can check out what exactly the error was
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Ok, I thought I could but I was thrown off by the failed attempt. I always do a FULL wipe when flashing from one ROM to another... and I'm not sure how to back up the cache...
The main back ups I preform are the NAND, Titanium and occasionally I use MyBackUpPro...but I only use the last one for contacts and texts...
I always use Amon_Ra... I am currently using 2.2.1... I am assuming that the NAND BU was corrupt some how.
I am trying to think if I made the back up with the same version of Ra or not and I assume that shouldnt make any differance. Now the only other variable would be that I changed the name of the main file - but I always do that with all my NAND BUs and I didnt have any problem restoring my stock froyo that was named in the same format...(ex: StockFroyo-011911 <~~ which worked Vs. WarmTwoPointTwo-012911 <~~ which did not work)...

You can make backups of multiple and re-flash them at your will [just know which is which, by naming them.] Also, do a cache and dalvik wipe before hand, and you're good to go.

JayStation3 said:
Hey everyone... I was wondering -
If I make a NANDroid back up of my stock froyo rooted ROM (ROM #1),
Do a full wipe and then flash another ROM (ROM #2) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #2,
Then do another full wipe and flash another ROM (ROM #3) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #3...etc etc...
My question is - Can I restore any given NAND BU to any given ROM, or Do i actually have to reflash that ROM to get it back on the phone?
I tried doing this with a NAND BU that I made with a ROM I had flashed... it got buggy and I ended up restoring my NAND BU from the stock ROM. Then I wanted to show some one the ROM I had flashed before and tried to restore the NAND BU I made of that particular ROM and it got 3 dots into the restore then said it couldnt be completed.
I am wondering if it couldnt be completed b/c the NAND BU was corrupted some how - or if this is actually not some thing you can do...
any info on this would be helpful...
JS3
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Just wanted to tell ya thanks for the app recommendation (Elixir)... nvr seen it before but it's pretty awesome..

blakjak220 said:
Just wanted to tell ya thanks for the app recommendation (Elixir)... nvr seen it before but it's pretty awesome..
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No problem, I love it... Also check out last months favorite app. I love that one too cause you can totally customize your texts and what not - It took me almost 4 hours of messing with settings to figure out EVERYTHING that handcent does...
Also thanks goes to teh, appriciate the info

That's wat I do I have several different backups of the most stable roms I like and switch to witch one I like just gota remember the date of backup

rayfrausto said:
That's wat I do I have several different backups of the most stable roms I like and switch to witch one I like just gota remember the date of backup
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If you use rom manager, or amon ra, you can rename them, so its easy to tell.

teh roxxorz said:
If you use rom manager, or amon ra, you can rename them, so its easy to tell.
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Yeah, I knew you could rename them... I have been doing that - but for some reason I cant get my NAND BU of myns warm twopointtwo to work, I guess I'll just reflash it... I dunno...

If your battery is less than 30%-40% or something, Amon-Ra won't restore or backup. If it's not working, plug in your phone and try again. Also, I would upgrade to RA-2.3. Much better IMO, only version since 1.8 that I haven't had any trouble with. I had also sorts of issues with backups and restores either taking FOREVER or just plain not completing. For the first time, I'm at a point where i have like 5 ROMs on my phone and switch whenever I feel like.

jstalford said:
If your battery is less than 30%-40% or something, Amon-Ra won't restore or backup. If it's not working, plug in your phone and try again. Also, I would upgrade to RA-2.3. Much better IMO, only version since 1.8 that I haven't had any trouble with. I had also sorts of issues with backups and restores either taking FOREVER or just plain not completing. For the first time, I'm at a point where i have like 5 ROMs on my phone and switch whenever I feel like.
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Cool, yeah I may have had a bad battery level, I dont remember what my batery % was when I tried it but that makes sense... thanks, Also with the 2.3 I have it - I just havent flashed it yet... Thanks again

[Q] Rooting/Recovery Question

My wife got an Epic, while I have an EVO. I'm quite familiar with rooting, ROMs, etc. I think I've got all the Epic-specific details down, but I wanted to ask this question to make sure I've got this down.
I plan to use this root method. After that, her phone will be left with a basically stock, 2.2 ROM that uses the EXT4 file system, and Clockwork recovery image. I read that I won't be able to flash new versions of Clockwork from within ROM Manager. From then on, I will need to stick with ROMs designed for the EXT4 file system or both EXT4 and RFS. I assume I flash ROMs and Kernels just like with my EVO: choose my ROM, it will come with a kernel, but I can flash whatever kernel I choose on top of that (as long as my ROM matches my Android type, DK or EB). There are currently no Gingerbread ROMs for the Epic, but when they are released, I should be able to use CM 3.x to flash them.
OK, I would greatly appreciate if someone could just read over that and let me know if I understand anything incorrectly. Also, if someone could tell me if there's a good reason to choose Odin's recovery vs. Clockwork, I would very much appreciate that as well.

Odin Vs. Clockwork
Everything you posted above sounds accurate.
I use Clockwork to flash my ROMs just because it is easier to me (no cables involved). The only time I use Odin is when my phone is bricked. This has happened after installing Samsung updates, but it is very easy to use Odin to restore back to Stock, then flash a new ROM over.
One advantage to Clockwork is that some ROMs support a full backup. I use Bonsai4All and during installation from Clockwork it will backup your information, then restore it. As far as I know, Odin is not capable of any such thing.
Hope this helps...

OK wait, some ROMs support full backup? Why couldn't I do a full nandroid backup with any ROM I'm running from within Clockwork Mod Recovery?

WrlsFanatic said:
OK wait, some ROMs support full backup? Why couldn't I do a full nandroid backup with any ROM I'm running from within Clockwork Mod Recovery?
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You can use these two zips from within clockwork if you are flashing a rom that doesn't backup/restore for you.
Flash the "backup" before you wipe anything and then after you flash the rom - before you reboot - flash the "restore".
These .zips take care of data/settings/apps. Not actual system items, so they don't seem to cause some of the issues that programs like Titanium Backup cause.
EDIT: It's always good to do a complete backup within Clockwork before flashing ANYTHING new. Roms, zips, etc.!

Awesome! Thanks! I can't believe that Clockwork isn't working any better than that where it has problems backing things up. I know the EVO gets a lot of dev love, but seriously... SO much easier.

ClockworkMod Recovery: any Wiki or User Manual?

Hi,
Installed ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.10 on GNex GSM. It is touch sensitive and nice. Out of curiosity, I tried to test around the possibilities of this Recovery but the self discovery is not very productive because of my lack of experience. For example, I tested "Advanced / Key Test" and didn't know how to exit (other than pulling the battery out). Or when doing a Backup, what does that CWM Backup save exactly?
In other words, I would appreciate if you can point me to a User Manual of ClockworkMod Recovery. The best I have found so far is http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Using_the_Recovery#Custom_Recovery_Images
Thanks for any help.

Backup basically saves a copy of your ROM.
Restore restores your backup of your ROM.
Beamed from my Maguro

Mach3.2 said:
Backup basically saves a copy of your ROM. Restore restores your backup of your ROM.
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Does that mean the OS + User Apps + System Apps + all data?
Let's take an example. I got the phone from the carrier, I installed CWM Recovery + take a backup. Then I play around with Custom ROM, rooting, etc. Then I need to return the phone for warranty. I then restore the backup I made initially. Would that return the phone to its initial state?

2LoT said:
Does that mean the OS + User Apps + System Apps + all data?
Let's take an example. I got the phone from the carrier, I installed CWM Recovery + take a backup. Then I play around with Custom ROM, rooting, etc. Then I need to return the phone for warranty. I then restore the backup I made initially. Would that return the phone to its initial state?
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Yep, unless you've flashed things that aren't backed up using CWM e.g. bootloader. Also, if you've flashed CWM directly onto your phone, the recovery that is backed up is CWM so make sure you have a copy of the original recovery somewhere.

2LoT said:
Does that mean the OS + User Apps + System Apps + all data?
Let's take an example. I got the phone from the carrier, I installed CWM Recovery + take a backup. Then I play around with Custom ROM, rooting, etc. Then I need to return the phone for warranty. I then restore the backup I made initially. Would that return the phone to its initial state?
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Essentially you take a carbon copy of your ROM. Think of it as a paper. Your super customized ROM is a beautiful ink drawing, one you couldn't replicate by hand. So you scan it onto your computer. It saves every single line, every stroke. You have an exact digital copy. That's a backup. The restore would be printing a new copy. Okay, perhaps that's not the best metaphor, but it works.
A better metaphor might be it takes an exact copy. Then when it restores that copy it puts it back, exactly how it was. Actually that's not a metaphor. That's exactly how it works

Unlawful said:
Yep, unless you've flashed things that aren't backed up using CWM e.g. bootloader. Also, if you've flashed CWM directly onto your phone, the recovery that is backed up is CWM so make sure you have a copy of the original recovery somewhere.
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Oh crap, that would be the case. Because indeed, I flashed CWM, then after that I booted into recovery mode which is CWM and made a backup. In this case the carrier would discover I changed something. I am not too worried, the original ROM is stock Android 4.02 so I think I can always put it back.

Nothing to worry about, you can easily flash stock in fastboot.
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