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Hi guys I was wondering since the original desire has a 1gig processor and the new desire z has a 800 mhz processor with the new sense UI already build in ok, now when HTC deside to upgrade the new sense UI on to the original desire wouldn't it run much faster then the desire z would or wouldn't it because it has an old generation chip in it?
just want to know because I have the original desire and I think its one of the best phone I've ever used however I my self did attend the London HTC event and played with the desire z and think the new hard ware is brilliant but I didn't have time to find everything out.
so if anybody out there might know the answer I'll appreciate it.
Thank You.
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I would be interested to know this too
Desier Z does have a slower CPU (its been underclocked) but has a much faster GPU.
Lennyuk said:
Desier Z does have a slower CPU (its been underclocked) but has a much faster GPU.
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who cares, i need one with much more battery. like 3000mha!
my desire doesnt hold 18hours!! that sucks!
Lennyuk said:
Desier Z does have a slower CPU (its been underclocked) but has a much faster GPU.
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@lennyuk hi thanks for your speedy response I haven't had a chance to check Tue link you posted in you message I will do in 2 hours and get back to you.
cheers.
You might find this very interesting:
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/new...have-similar-performance-to-samsung-galaxy-s/
xlxl said:
who cares, i need one with much more battery. like 3000mha!
my desire doesnt hold 18hours!! that sucks![/QUOT
Valid point about the battery but a bit rude how you put your point across.
If you want to talk about batteries start your own thread else where.
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The hd2 can go up to 1.5ghz I know so why can't the desire, you may ask 'why does it need to get faster its fast anyway ' well that's because I want to see how far it can go. ages ago our kernels were going up to 1.3ghz and surprisingly it was stable for me. Any answers
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DHD has a different processor
What? He is not even mentioning Desire HD, only HD2, which has an identical chip.
My fault, swear it said DHD!
EddyOS said:
My fault, swear it said DHD!
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lol shouldve went to specsavers
Lol yeah , but seriously any idea
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No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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AndroHero said:
No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast
warlordxxx said:
This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast
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+1 and if the op really wants to try it, why not throw a donation at a dev, get him to compile you a kernel that can be oc'd that much
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998Mhz does me just fine on my Desire. I used to run 1.51Ghz on my DHD but all I got from it was an awesome Quadrant score and a piss poor battery life. For day to day use I really don't notice the difference from 998Mhz to 1190Mhz with a HAVS/BFS kernel on my Desire.
my amoled went up to 1300 and my wife slcd wont go over 1030(i menan it will but any stronger activity will crash it)
2.5ghz overclocked with a droid x?
how good was the battery life on that?
I think 998 MHZ is enough for my Desire. 1.5 GHZ is nothing to me.
I have been reading a few things about the Hd CPU and i know that it can handle this speeds, atleast just for the sake of a few benchmarks. As somebody would see in Z/G2 section there is alot of kernel work @ 1.8,
So the 1 million dollars question is:
Why isn't there such a kernel for our beloved Desire Hd?
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A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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So how come Z is handling up to almost 2Ghz? I know that the voltage would be high, but ad high as frying the cpu? Even using failsafe from setcpu? How much above 1.51 should the voltage be increased to handle it?
LeeDroid said:
A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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The voltage has to be ramped up quite a bit. Usually when processors near their limits of frequency, voltage has to be pushed much to get little more frequency.
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
lollylost100 said:
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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i wouldnt mined to aslong as there is a proven stable kernel at 1.8Ghz ;-)
Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
lollylost100 said:
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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mariosraptor said:
Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
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Dont know why its sad to see. At similar clock speeds, both the Z/G2 and Desire HD are gonna score in basically the same range. They have the same gpu and basically the same cpu (cpu in the G2 is an underclocked version of the Desire HD/MT4G cpu).
It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!
Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
tolis626 said:
Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!
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mariosraptor said:
Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
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WTF did this thing just do?
Anyway,managed to read it and I've been thinking the same!Plus,isn't that feeling that it's fast awesome?Something like having a 50cc motorbike and making it 90cc!
mariosraptor said:
It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Thats why I said basically similar. The only main difference is one comes out of the box at 1ghz and the other at 800mhz. You clock the G2 to 1ghz Im pretty sure it will score in the same range as the Desire HD. I still think the msm 8255 is an overclocked version of the ms 7230 and they will score similar at the same clock speed. Desire HD might and I say might have a bit of advantage cause of the extra RAM.
Heres a link from the manufacturer page, notice the differences:
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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mariosraptor said:
Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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+1
It's really a shame!
Bump!
Nothing yet?
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yeah. it seems that there isn't any interest on making this beast fly.
tolis626 said:
Bump!
Nothing yet?
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it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao
Exactly what I want to do. I will show every and each of my neighbours living on the same street who's their daddy.
liljom said:
it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao
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Dude,did you see anyone around here being ironic or rude?Cause you are both!
So,to get this inside your narrow head:Not everyone is conservative on how they use their devices.Some,like me,mariosraptor and jkoljo,like seeing what's the limit of their devices.Not because we like seeing linpack go high,but because we like the feeling that it can do so much.Having a kernel that allows us to overclock as high as 2 GHz doesn't mean we'll be running it 24/7.We'll just run it once or twice,just for fun,and get back to what we were using.Some minutes on it can't do any damage now,can they?
No one will force you to flash it on your device.
And you could as well seize insulting people personally when you don't know what they want or represent.We just "said out loud" our opinion for everyone to hear.If there is demand by more people it might as well be done.Or it might not.I am no developer,but if I was I would have done it a long time now,believe me!
I think an apology is due here.Some people that showed interest in this are much more respected than you and me combined.
With kind regards,
Apostolis
PS:I'm no adult man,I'm 16!
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
Moscow Desire said:
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
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How do u get to 1.75
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yes im curious too, never saw a cpu speed that high on a desire
Moscow Desire said:
(give or take depending on coolant).
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I would like a clarification of the 'coolant' term?
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And people said we couldn't push the old "celery" chips past 1Ghz.
It's just a project. Coolant, would mean LN type. Basically imagine a small refrigerator...
Any of the old overclockers will remember this. Heat was always the achilles heel of any processor. That, and voltage. But it seems the newer processors, are tied in with the kernel.
Moscow Desire said:
And people said we couldn't push the old "celery" chips past 1Ghz.
It's just a project. Coolant, would mean LN type. Basically imagine a small refrigerator...
Any of the old overclockers will remember this. Heat was always the achilles heel of any processor. That, and voltage. But it seems the newer processors, are tied in with the kernel.
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A tutorial how to get that high 1.75ghz please
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whats the point in knowing how he got that high? it's clearly impractical and with liquid cooling you can pretty much achieve anything.
Moscow Desire said:
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
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I think dropping your phone in a soda would have a similar effect, no matter what coolant you use.
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Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
How about you simply compile a kernel with 2GHz support?
Though you'll probably fry the motherboard since the Desire's CPU requires monstruos voltages for anything higher than 1.13GHz.
I only can overclock it to 1.3 GHz
Meaple said:
Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
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+1 ... All coolants are a mixture of Mineral Oil and water... Oil based coolant and water based!! MUAHAHHA LOL
why is 1GHz not enough ?
Are you trying to fry it?
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Please ignore any typos or grammos.
droidzone said:
Are you trying to fry it?
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Please ignore any typos or grammos.
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Guys don't judge him . He may want to make pancakes with his phone
But seriously how did you achieve 2ghz and how did you water cool it?
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Meaple said:
Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
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I'm thinking pocket-feed catheter...
But, seriously, one must question the practicality of such a set up...
I got 1825 MHz on Quadrant after overclocking my Desire to 1190 MHz, but the next day I realized the phone was getting hotter than it ever did, so it definitely isn't a wise thing to do to overclock.
Wait for graphene-based processors, dude. Those will be 10x faster than current processors, and will produce almost no heat. Give or take 10yrs from now.
Borat38 said:
I got 1825 MHz on Quadrant after overclocking my Desire to 1190 MHz, but the next day I realized the phone was getting hotter than it ever did, so it definitely isn't a wise thing to do to overclock.
Wait for graphene-based processors, dude. Those will be 10x faster than current processors, and will produce almost no heat. Give or take 10yrs from now.
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+1 on these graphene processors. I thought that quadrant doesn't give score in mhz
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Quadrant does not give MHz scores. That's just 1825 point, no MHz, nothing.
Yeah, read about those CPUs, will be nice to have them
BTW, I managed to overclock mine to 1304 MHz(I think) with a ROM/Kernel combo on tis site, but it got insanely hot after the 3D tests So rather staying at 1 GHz stock.
Nitin985 said:
A tutorial how to get that high 1.75ghz please
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Hail to that!!
Hello everyone, I'm new to the site and I apologize in advance if this has been asked before but, I have an HTC Inspire 4G but have a custom rom flashed and it shows my phone model as a Desire HD. Would I actually need setcpu, or would I be fine without it?
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Maybe best to ask at the Inspire or DHD sections, however, I can't see why SetCPU would be a bad thing.
SetCPU enables you to run custom clock speeds, so you can overclock or underclock as you see fit. Also, you can set parameters, so as your battery drains, different speeds are employed.
In all honesty, it is probably not something that you need perse, but if you want to have a bit of fun, I don't see why not. Just be careful if you decide to overclock...if you push too hard and your kernel doesn't support OC, you could have real dramas.
777ace said:
Just be careful if you decide to overclock...if you push too hard and your kernel doesn't support OC, you could have real dramas.
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You will really have dramas. If your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you will not be able to overclock... no matter how hard you push.
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