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Hi guys!
I haven't yet rooted my Desire(I would have but I was fool enough to install the 2.2 OTA).The main reason for me to root would be the ability to overclock my device.All this time that I have been around here on the Desire and Nexus One forums I have been seeing that our devices are overclocked only up to 1113MHz and only in very rare cases 1267MHz.However,to my great surprise,I noticed on OpenDesire ROM's thread that the Desire can be overclocked @1344MHz(which of course made me think a big HELL YEAH!).Is that number ok for all of us or for some select few?I remember from my Hero days that only some few,lucky guys like myself could overclock up to 768MHz,although there were cases of people,rare,yet not unheard of,that could overclock @844MHz.Is this the case here or are things different with the Snapdragon?
Many many thanks guys!
C'mon guys,no one?
tolis626 said:
I have been seeing that our devices are overclocked only up to 1113MHz and only in very rare cases 1267MHz.
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I don't think overclocking to 1267MHz happens in rare cases. I had no problems oc-ing to 1267 and it seems that a lot of forum member were able to do this too.
Why don't you downgrade your HBoot to 0.80, root your phone and try it out?
Just make sure your phone does not become too hot if you try 1344MHz.
I have to ask the question, but does it really matter?
IMHO, the Desire is plenty fast enough that overclocking it simply isn't necessary.
I can understand underclocking to eek out more battery life, but other than gaining a few points on some benchmarks, I really don't see the point in overclocking.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I have to ask the question, but does it really matter?
IMHO, the Desire is plenty fast enough that overclocking it simply isn't necessary.
I can understand underclocking to eek out more battery life, but other than gaining a few points on some benchmarks, I really don't see the point in overclocking.
Regards,
Dave
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so this, its really not needed at all. a decent fast rom and 1ghz is more than enought for things to be super speedy. any decent kernal will provide more than enough speed.
overclocking(and lots of other things these days!) reminds me of that bit in jurassic park where they are all sat around the table and geoff goldblum says:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should".
herein lies the lesson, just because you can do it doesnt mean you should do it.
Well,I have my reasons wanting to overclock...First off,I will check if I can see any difference in speed or smoothness.If there isn't,I will just revert the clock back to normal after some benchmarks.
I just am the kind of guy that wants to get the most out of his phone!
I think ALL Desires can overclock to 1267Mhz. It's not that rare and I've not seen anyone having a problem with it.
It does make things a bit snappier as well.
sbdags said:
I think ALL Desires can overclock to 1267Mhz. It's not that rare and I've not seen anyone having a problem with it.
It does make things a bit snappier as well.
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That's what I'm talkin' about man!
And now that I think of it,it's not that much.I mean,the Hero could overclock @768,which is 45% overclocking.The Desire's 1267 is about 27% and 1344 is about 34,5%.Nothing too much!So why not?
Every CPU is different. The Qualcomm Snapdragon is a very different beast compared to the Qualcomm MSM 7200A.
We are just starting to learn what we can do with the Snapdragon without damaging it.
Kinma said:
Every CPU is different. The Qualcomm Snapdragon is a very different beast compared to the Qualcomm MSM 7200A.
We are just starting to learn what we can do with the Snapdragon without damaging it.
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Well my man,in this case the MSM7200A is no beast but rather a pooch that barks to no avail!Good pet however!
Joking aside,the Snapdragon is a beast for a mobile phone,but even beasts get beaten.Now,if I can somehow reach or even get close to the performance of the Galaxy S or the Droid X I'll be happy.Software wise I believe that HTC is far superior ,but it's hardware is a little out of date.Let's see what their new devices will do for us!
Btw,does anyone know if the so anticipated HTC Ace will be anything better than what we already have or if it will be the Evo for GSM users?
Thanks!
The desire is plenty fast as it is and I don't see the point of overclocking it. I've had it to 1267 in the past and it made no difference at all for usability. I'm also the type that overclocks all his computers...
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Personal preferences dude...What everyone does with their phone is their own business.I wish I could resist overclocking too!
However,I was watching a thread over at the N1 forums in which a dude named Storm9999(genius dude,not just a random one) stated that an overclock @1,3GHz could fry our phones.Is that so?I mean,I know overclocking reduces the CPU's lifetime,but is it THAT MUCH dangerous?
I think overclocking can kill your phone.. I use to overclock my own o2 orbit and it died after a year..
Friend of mine just burned his old HTC by overclocking it and as a consequence is going to buy a desire.
I had my phone overclocked at 1345Mhz for a moment, just to test it, and it made no real difference to when it was overclocked at around 1.2Ghz, which in turn has very very little difference to stock 1Ghz.
I think the only case where you see some small impact is in games.
I've tested HD recording at 1.345 Ghz and stock speed and there was no difference.
If anything, it's going to kill your battery and shorten its life for sure, going so high. If ever I will OC again I won't go over 1.1 and only if I find some tangible improvements.
As said, this phone is always fast, there is no real need to OC, other than for 'fun'.
The fun is what I want...Well,most probably I will have my phone overclocked at the maximum speed it can get for about a week or two and then go back to 1 or 1,1GHz...
Btw,your signature kicks ass andycted!
I have been reading a few things about the Hd CPU and i know that it can handle this speeds, atleast just for the sake of a few benchmarks. As somebody would see in Z/G2 section there is alot of kernel work @ 1.8,
So the 1 million dollars question is:
Why isn't there such a kernel for our beloved Desire Hd?
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A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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So how come Z is handling up to almost 2Ghz? I know that the voltage would be high, but ad high as frying the cpu? Even using failsafe from setcpu? How much above 1.51 should the voltage be increased to handle it?
LeeDroid said:
A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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The voltage has to be ramped up quite a bit. Usually when processors near their limits of frequency, voltage has to be pushed much to get little more frequency.
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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i wouldnt mined to aslong as there is a proven stable kernel at 1.8Ghz ;-)
Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
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There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
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Dont know why its sad to see. At similar clock speeds, both the Z/G2 and Desire HD are gonna score in basically the same range. They have the same gpu and basically the same cpu (cpu in the G2 is an underclocked version of the Desire HD/MT4G cpu).
It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!
Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
tolis626 said:
Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!
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Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
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WTF did this thing just do?
Anyway,managed to read it and I've been thinking the same!Plus,isn't that feeling that it's fast awesome?Something like having a 50cc motorbike and making it 90cc!
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It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Thats why I said basically similar. The only main difference is one comes out of the box at 1ghz and the other at 800mhz. You clock the G2 to 1ghz Im pretty sure it will score in the same range as the Desire HD. I still think the msm 8255 is an overclocked version of the ms 7230 and they will score similar at the same clock speed. Desire HD might and I say might have a bit of advantage cause of the extra RAM.
Heres a link from the manufacturer page, notice the differences:
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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+1
It's really a shame!
Bump!
Nothing yet?
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yeah. it seems that there isn't any interest on making this beast fly.
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Bump!
Nothing yet?
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it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao
Exactly what I want to do. I will show every and each of my neighbours living on the same street who's their daddy.
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it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao
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Dude,did you see anyone around here being ironic or rude?Cause you are both!
So,to get this inside your narrow head:Not everyone is conservative on how they use their devices.Some,like me,mariosraptor and jkoljo,like seeing what's the limit of their devices.Not because we like seeing linpack go high,but because we like the feeling that it can do so much.Having a kernel that allows us to overclock as high as 2 GHz doesn't mean we'll be running it 24/7.We'll just run it once or twice,just for fun,and get back to what we were using.Some minutes on it can't do any damage now,can they?
No one will force you to flash it on your device.
And you could as well seize insulting people personally when you don't know what they want or represent.We just "said out loud" our opinion for everyone to hear.If there is demand by more people it might as well be done.Or it might not.I am no developer,but if I was I would have done it a long time now,believe me!
I think an apology is due here.Some people that showed interest in this are much more respected than you and me combined.
With kind regards,
Apostolis
PS:I'm no adult man,I'm 16!
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
Moscow Desire said:
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
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How do u get to 1.75
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yes im curious too, never saw a cpu speed that high on a desire
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(give or take depending on coolant).
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I would like a clarification of the 'coolant' term?
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And people said we couldn't push the old "celery" chips past 1Ghz.
It's just a project. Coolant, would mean LN type. Basically imagine a small refrigerator...
Any of the old overclockers will remember this. Heat was always the achilles heel of any processor. That, and voltage. But it seems the newer processors, are tied in with the kernel.
Moscow Desire said:
And people said we couldn't push the old "celery" chips past 1Ghz.
It's just a project. Coolant, would mean LN type. Basically imagine a small refrigerator...
Any of the old overclockers will remember this. Heat was always the achilles heel of any processor. That, and voltage. But it seems the newer processors, are tied in with the kernel.
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A tutorial how to get that high 1.75ghz please
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whats the point in knowing how he got that high? it's clearly impractical and with liquid cooling you can pretty much achieve anything.
Moscow Desire said:
Looking for any Rom and "coding accessories" that can push my Desire past the 2ghz+ mark. Currently at 1.75 (give or take depending on coolant).
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I think dropping your phone in a soda would have a similar effect, no matter what coolant you use.
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Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
How about you simply compile a kernel with 2GHz support?
Though you'll probably fry the motherboard since the Desire's CPU requires monstruos voltages for anything higher than 1.13GHz.
I only can overclock it to 1.3 GHz
Meaple said:
Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
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+1 ... All coolants are a mixture of Mineral Oil and water... Oil based coolant and water based!! MUAHAHHA LOL
why is 1GHz not enough ?
Are you trying to fry it?
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Please ignore any typos or grammos.
droidzone said:
Are you trying to fry it?
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Please ignore any typos or grammos.
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Guys don't judge him . He may want to make pancakes with his phone
But seriously how did you achieve 2ghz and how did you water cool it?
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Meaple said:
Mineral oil FTW
I don't get why you would want to do that to your phone. You couldn't possibly get it to that and use it in the real world.
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I'm thinking pocket-feed catheter...
But, seriously, one must question the practicality of such a set up...
I got 1825 MHz on Quadrant after overclocking my Desire to 1190 MHz, but the next day I realized the phone was getting hotter than it ever did, so it definitely isn't a wise thing to do to overclock.
Wait for graphene-based processors, dude. Those will be 10x faster than current processors, and will produce almost no heat. Give or take 10yrs from now.
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I got 1825 MHz on Quadrant after overclocking my Desire to 1190 MHz, but the next day I realized the phone was getting hotter than it ever did, so it definitely isn't a wise thing to do to overclock.
Wait for graphene-based processors, dude. Those will be 10x faster than current processors, and will produce almost no heat. Give or take 10yrs from now.
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+1 on these graphene processors. I thought that quadrant doesn't give score in mhz
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Quadrant does not give MHz scores. That's just 1825 point, no MHz, nothing.
Yeah, read about those CPUs, will be nice to have them
BTW, I managed to overclock mine to 1304 MHz(I think) with a ROM/Kernel combo on tis site, but it got insanely hot after the 3D tests So rather staying at 1 GHz stock.
Nitin985 said:
A tutorial how to get that high 1.75ghz please
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Hail to that!!
hi,
A friend of mine wanna buy a droid and asked me for advice.I recommended hTc desire c.
I have got few doubts about the phone
1.Camera quality(5 mp fixed focus camera,a little bit worried about this)
2.600 MHz CPU
3.Battery life
If anyone here used this phone plz post ur personal review here! Thanks in Advance
I bought this phone two days ago and am very disappointed. Let alone the camera, the 600 MHz CPU is so slow. The screen is no way like the HTC phones as you have to press an icon multiple times. I havent been able to find any files to flash this phone. (there is one on Shipped roms, but its a Verizon one). The battery is OK
Basically, its a HTC Wildfire in a different shell.. I am gonna sell this phone either today or tomorrow as its a heavy let down !
deepakskht1 said:
hi,
A friend of mine wanna buy a droid and asked me for advice.I recommended hTc desire c.
I have got few doubts about the phone
1.Camera quality(5 mp fixed focus camera,a little bit worried about this)
2.600 MHz CPU
3.Battery life
If anyone here used this phone plz post ur personal review here! Thanks in Advance
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Have you tried asking in the Desire C forums?
Camera isnt too bad,although fixed focus can be annoying at night, but I seem to get average quality pictures from it. CPU is slow at times but not horribly slow, good amount of memory to. Although I'm going to carry on using my desire for now. Battery life is also quite decent to though, get through a day easily maybe two.
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Fist of all, hello. :laugh:
By this time I use Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, but I just want to change it for something better. I have an offer for HTC One X (second hand), but I know that this smartphone is not first youth. I have an offer for Sony Xperia SP too, but the thing is that I don't know what is the best choice. I also know that Tegra 3 is less performance than Adreno 320, but HTC One X has quad-core CPU @ 1,5GHz. (versus dual-core @ 1,7 GHz Krait CPU in Xperia SP.) What is the better choice in this situation ? (Prices are almost the same.)
Greetings.
If you're thinking about buying the tegra3 HTC One X you're in the wrong forum. This is the Qualcomm dual core HTC One XL forum.
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timmaaa said:
If you're thinking about buying the tegra3 HTC One X you're in the wrong forum. This is the Qualcomm dual core HTC One XL forum.
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Oh, my bad. Sorry for that, you are right. Please move my thread in the right forum. Thanks.
Moved to Endeavor Q&A (quad core version).
The One X is a speedy phone, but how important is battery life for you? That's the only concern I would have with getting a One X, especially second hand. Replacing the battery can be done but it isn't an easy process and even a new battery depletes fairly quickly. Not sure how the Xperia fares in that department.
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The One X is a speedy phone, but how important is battery life for you? That's the only concern I would have with getting a One X, especially second hand. Replacing the battery can be done but it isn't an easy process and even a new battery depletes fairly quickly. Not sure how the Xperia fares in that department.
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Have to agree but most phone of this generation have not so great battery life.
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treebill said:
Have to agree but most phone of this generation have not so great battery life.
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Actually, I am pleased with 1 day battery life. That is not very important for me. I want to know what phone - HTC One X or Sony Xperia Neo has better performance in gaming and multi tasking, internet surfing etc.
Lacos7e said:
Actually, I am pleased with 1 day battery life. That is not very important for me. I want to know what phone - HTC One X or Sony Xperia Neo has better performance in gaming and multi tasking, internet surfing etc.
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I think you will love the One x. Its screen is so sharp and beautifull and sense 5 is really very smooth with a lot of features. Build quality is really good. And it has very good performance and if devs makes use of tegra (with thd games for example) its still really powerfull device
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Actually, I am pleased with 1 day battery life. That is not very important for me. I want to know what phone - HTC One X or Sony Xperia Neo has better performance in gaming and multi tasking, internet surfing etc.
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Sorry, but if you're using the phone for multi-tasking and gaming you probably won't even get a day out of it. 6 hours perhaps. You might get a little more out of it if you're on very low brightness.
It's a shame because the phone would be fantastic for gaming with a better battery. I have no idea how the Xperia compares though.
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Sorry, but if you're using the phone for multi-tasking and gaming you probably won't even get a day out of it. 6 hours perhaps. You might get a little more out of it if you're on very low brightness.
It's a shame because the phone would be fantastic for gaming with a better battery. I have no idea how the Xperia compares though.
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You are right. But I am not a phone addicted person and i mean that if I use my phone I use it for this kind of operations, nothing special. I am especially interested in the performance of both phones - Sony Xperia SP versus HTC One X.
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You are right. But I am not a phone addicted person and i mean that if I use my phone I use it for this kind of operations, nothing special. I am especially interested in the performance of both phones - Sony Xperia SP versus HTC One X.
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Performance wise I've always found the One X to be excellent, especially once the upgrades got to 4.2.2. I've had mine just under 2 years and it still performs as well as the day I got it. If you ignore battery life the One X is a superb phone, even in the current market.
Got not too long ago one too. Overall, htc one x is very nice phone, really fast and feels very nicelly in hand and still has a very good performance. But its battery is piece of crap. Totally. Well, maybe I'm just not used yet, but even my htc hd2 with wp 7.8 was better than HOX. I'm adding my battery stats from today (well, maybe my battery is defected or this is normal I still don't know) and as you can see, it's ****.
The battery is definitely the weak point of the phone. The 4.2.2 update helped a little but it's still a pretty poor performance. You can install the HOX+ battery into the HOX if you're feeling brave but I have no idea what type of boost it gives, if any.
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The battery is definitely the weak point of the phone. The 4.2.2 update helped a little but it's still a pretty poor performance. You can install the HOX+ battery into the HOX if you're feeling brave but I have no idea what type of boost it gives, if any.
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I actually find the 3.xx base much better for battery than 4.xx
Sense 5 although nice is rather battery hungry.
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I actually find the 3.xx base much better for battery than 4.xx
Sense 5 although nice is rather battery hungry.
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I've only ever had my One X on the stock ROM so I don't think I've been below 4.0 ? Battery is definitely improved for me on 4.2.2 compared to whatever the previous version was.
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I've only ever had my One X on the stock ROM so I don't think I've been below 4.0 ? Battery is definitely improved for me on 4.2.2 compared to whatever the previous version was.
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i was talking about base numbers sorry. both are 4.2.2 i believe but 3.xx bases use sense 4+ rather than sense 5 which gave me much better battery life