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Is anyone using setcpu? I bought it back when I had the hero but I'm not sure if it will work now on this phone. I'm rooted using toast's method if that even matters for something like this. thanks in advance!
It's the same CPU as the Nexus and it has settings for the Nexus, so in theory it should work. I had a Nexus before this phone and it worked fine.
I believe, like the Hero, you need a kernel tweak to have true overclocking.
yeah I dont wanna overclock i just want to downclock when the screen is off to save battery. I tried using the nexus one settings but it didnt seem like it was working using on demand. The clock speeds it was showing were kind of goofy. Guess i should wait for the programmer to update it
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yeah I dont wanna overclock i just want to downclock when the screen is off to save battery. I tried using the nexus one settings but it didnt seem like it was working using on demand. The clock speeds it was showing were kind of goofy. Guess i should wait for the programmer to update it
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what?!? what do you mean u dont want to oc... theres always room for more speed!
true that but i have always been nervous about burning up the processor hehe
Overclocking would be nice, but I'd also like to save some battery with the on demand profile. Does anyone have it working?
I posted a patch in a thread in the development forum that would enable full support, plus overclocking, but nobody seems to have noticed it.
I might have to buy an EVO just to compile and test kernels... Or, if anybody wants to help me, shoot me a PM.
I used the unrevoked method to root and picked the N1 for the device in setcpu and it seems to be working great with the on demand setting. I have noticed a nice increase in battery life so far.
coolbho3000 said:
I posted a patch in a thread in the development forum that would enable full support, plus overclocking, but nobody seems to have noticed it.
I might have to buy an EVO just to compile and test kernels... Or, if anybody wants to help me, shoot me a PM.
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Is it linked or built-in?
If it's linked I'd be more than happy to test!
yea i use 1.5.4 pro edition... i make it go to 245mhz while idle/sleep... it works perfectly... and it runs 'ondemand'... if you dont need speed it wont go... i keep it to start at boot, and have ATK to ignore it so it doesnt close... theres no lag btw when it moves back to 998mhz
I'm using kings kernel #5 and i currently have its over clocked to 720 (and of course profiles clocked under that) I was wondering would i have significantly shorter battery life if i clocked it up to the highest (1.119) and set it to conservative
Gahh Its Lee said:
I'm using kings kernel #5 and i currently have its over clocked to 720 (and of course profiles clocked under that) I was wondering would i have significantly shorter battery life if i clocked it up to the highest (1.119) and set it to conservative
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You'll most likely freeze up and crash at the highest clock speed, that's what happens to most of us. But that really depends on your hardware... You MAY be able to sustain that, but there's really no guarantees.
What I do (and I have pretty good battery life, it's 9:36 pm here and I just now dipped under 20%) is let the kernel do it's own thing and only set up a screen off profile that maxes out at 460.
But yeah, higher clock = more battery drain.
I cannot get over 1.113, reboots constantly over that. I get amazing battery life and performance with what I am running below.
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Oh I can run it sustained i have my charging profile of 1.119 and interactive. Its 11:15 and my battery just dropped under 50% (i like bragging) But i figure it i put it to conservative it probably wont ever need to really run at max will it? Im not 100% sure on how everything works just yet
The word of the King
When King released #5, he was specific in saying that if using SetCPU w/ #5, only use it to overclock, as the composition of the kernel handles battery life.
That doesn't mean you can't, obviously, but I'm just conveying what I read when it was released.
Post # 1653, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050&page=34
just sayin'
Oh well thank you i had no idea. I actually messaged him on here about the kernels
I honestly dont even know what kernel i should be using... I dont even know the difference between bfs and cfs
Gahh Its Lee said:
I honestly dont even know what kernel i should be using... I dont even know the difference between bfs and cfs
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King's notes and his d/l site go into uber-geek detail on the differences - take a look. Short version (to my understanding and probably way oversimplified) is they do different things - battery preservation or speed or a blend of the two.
That said, the kernel you should use depends on the ROM and what's important to you [speed/battery/both] - certain kernels won't/don't/shouldn't work w/ certain ROMs.Take a read thru the development section, and read thru the 2 threads for King's kernels. He's got 5? (or more) kernels out in the wild. Between those two threads, you'll see where one set is for AOSP ROMs only, the other for Sense and/or vanilla, whatever.
I've made the error of bootlooping myself by putting the inappropriate kernel into a Sense ROM - fortunately I did no permanent harm - actually it was good learning. Why? Now I look for, and use, kernels specific to the type of ROM I'm using.
They aren't one-size fits all - don't make the mistake I did - read up on what's there and you'll see what I mean.
Kind regards.
Yea I learned that not all roms work... I have virtuous 3.0.1 and want performance but mainly battery life can you suggest a kernel for me?
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Yea I learned that not all roms work... I have virtuous 3.0.1 and want performance but mainly battery life can you suggest a kernel for me?
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King's #5 or the custom Virtuous kernel.
Lol I've used both of those I may go to kings #3 bfs not 100% sure yet hopefully ill get a message back on here
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Yea I learned that not all roms work... I have virtuous 3.0.1 and want performance but mainly battery life can you suggest a kernel for me?
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Lee - best suggestion I can offer is for you to read up on the kernels available and choose the one that works with the ROM you are running, that gives you what you want.
The reading/learning will do as much for you as a super-speedy or battery-sipping kernel.
Good luck.
I've been reading but just can't find any real information
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The Kernels King post are defined by whether they can be used in Sense or Vanilla. His AOSP/CM are for Vanilla Roms only, and will more than likely cause bootloops if applied to a Sense Rom. The HAVS kernels are for Sense only. I change out between 2 and 5 and can't decide which is better. I also never run above 1.15 or I get constant reboots. 1.15 still reboots, but not as often.
Ok I have Rom warm 2.2 n ziggy cfs havs n Wen I try to overclock it to 1.228 and run benchmarks ill stop half way in 3D in that room. Is this happening because my phone can't take it? I could overclock it to 1.190 and it runs fine
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Ok I have Rom warm 2.2 n ziggy cfs havs n Wen I try to overclock it to 1.228 and run benchmarks ill stop half way in 3D in that room. Is this happening because my phone can't take it? I could overclock it to 1.190 and it runs fine
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Yup. Your phone can't take it. I dontbeven know why kernel devs give the option to run higher then 1.19
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
The phone can't handle it. It'll either freeze like that, or just start rebooting.
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The phone can't handle it. It'll either freeze like that, or just start rebooting.
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I don't know why people insist the evo cant take it. I'm running the latest Sprint Lovers Rom with KiNgxKernel-Evo-12-BFS357-2.6.32.25-Flashable Kernal, and I have SetCPU set to overclock at 1267. and it works just fine. Never locks up or reboots. I think it depends on what Kernal you are using.
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I don't know why people insist the evo cant take it. I'm running the latest Sprint Lovers Rom with KiNgxKernel-Evo-12-BFS357-2.6.32.25-Flashable Kernal, and I have SetCPU set to overclock at 1267. and it works just fine. Never locks up or reboots. I think it depends on what Kernal you are using.
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The kernel does play a part, just just like kernels, not all phones will take it. I personally don't ever have a need to even go past ~900, I'm on 128/614 and no problems.
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I don't know why people insist the evo cant take it. I'm running the latest Sprint Lovers Rom with KiNgxKernel-Evo-12-BFS357-2.6.32.25-Flashable Kernal, and I have SetCPU set to overclock at 1267. and it works just fine. Never locks up or reboots. I think it depends on what Kernal you are using.
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All CPUs are not created equal. Some can take it, some can't. Qualcomm just makes sure that it can reliably operate at 1 GHz.
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Why are the evo OC'ing abilities so low in the first place? I have tried to search for a answer but never found one. I was sort of waiting for a opportunity like this. Take the Evo Shift, it can OC to like 1.8. That is almost 2 times over! One would think we should be able to OC top 1.4 or 1.5, right? Didnt you think that when you first got your phone? I know I did! Dont get me wrong, I have not had any real lag like I did with my Hero, but I never really lagged with my Optimus S either. Can someone link me to the official reason spelled out by the devs as to why the evo cant OC very high...
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Yea that happens to u to?
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But if you think about it we don't need it to go as high as 1.8; 1.1 is fine something like 1.4 should be amazing I wish I was able to do that.
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Why are the evo OC'ing abilities so low in the first place? I have tried to search for a answer but never found one. I was sort of waiting for a opportunity like this. Take the Evo Shift, it can OC to like 1.8. That is almost 2 times over! One would think we should be able to OC top 1.4 or 1.5, right? Didnt you think that when you first got your phone? I know I did! Dont get me wrong, I have not had any real lag like I did with my Hero, but I never really lagged with my Optimus S either. Can someone link me to the official reason spelled out by the devs as to why the evo cant OC very high...
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Because evo has a old snapdragon; evo shift has new. Some phones have better hardwares with better oc'ing capabilities. Can't do much bout it
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Highest I can go is 1.228, Most of my friends with evo's can only go to 1.19ghz.
I wish mine would go to 1.267.
Crossrocker said:
Because evo has a old snapdragon; evo shift has new. Some phones have better hardwares with better oc'ing capabilities. Can't do much bout it
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I understand the older chip thing, but it just doesnt seem like it allows OCing like other phones. Take the HTC Hero 600 is stock, it can OC to 768, almost 200 over. The Evo must surely have a better chip than the Hero, no? I am not complaining/whining, I just thought it would OC more thats all
Man I really want to b in the 1.8 MHz lol I wonder how do I reach that using CM7 nightly
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i get to 1.22 with cm7...tiamat sbc... with just about every nightly build and every tiamat. i set the governor on performance. when i try 1.26 yup, freeze, reboot, etc., just like stated here. does the governor matter/ or is that irrelevant?
Someone has mentioned that upgrading the hboot will get you to 1.2 Ghz. Can someone confirm this or is it really just a hardware limit?
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I understand the older chip thing, but it just doesnt seem like it allows OCing like other phones. Take the HTC Hero 600 is stock, it can OC to 768, almost 200 over. The Evo must surely have a better chip than the Hero, no? I am not complaining/whining, I just thought it would OC more thats all
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Well you can overclock to 1.19 which is almost 200 but reason is our processor sucks plain and simple the shifts is the updated snapdragon processor it is like a modded car its going to get better speeds
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out of sheer curiousity... what do you guys do with your phones that requires 1.2 ghz? Seriously just curious, not slammin' you guys at all. With normal daily usage, on CM7 I can get away with 537/128 mhz and my phone still kicks everyone's moto droid x's and x2's in the ass. AND my battery lasts for like 20 hours. Can't beat that. I love the Evo
I still don't get over clocking...
Its supposed to be better performance. I bet you, who's kicking droids,can't play music while playing some graphic heavy game while your phone is navigating in the back ground
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Hey guy's I noticed the one xl just got kernel sources recently and the result? Insane oc! I was just wondering how hard it would be to match the 2.1 frequency on the galaxy s3 lte as they both run Qualcomm s4's.
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The 1.9Ghz we currently have isn't enough for you? !!
Ahaha, well the thing is I returned my one xl for a galaxy s3 for performance reasons. I love to get every bit of power I can from my device and I somewhat expected the s4 to hit the 2ghz barrier soon after it was fiddled with. Battery drain is not a deal breaker for me.
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2.1 ghz.... My device runs butter smooth on stock... Will 2.1 cause it to melt like microwaved butter??
From what I heard mildly hot these s4's can handle it though.
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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Depends the phone is quite new give it like 2 or 4 weeks tops. Right now IMO development is kinda slow.
is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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Way more simpler actually.An app shows you your available frequencies choose the one you want and done.Oh and its live OC to.
Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
Time_Zone said:
If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
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I custom built my computer, im sure i can overclock it to who knows what but it being so new i don't even think about it. Maybe in 2 years when it starts showing age.
Most people that overclock their PC will get a new one before they really need the speed anyway. It's just because its is fun. And plus if you know how to overclock, there is really no reason not to. It's not like it's a trade off, its just free performance.
gotcha, i wasnt meaning to be disrespectful, i just never understood it unless needed.
You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
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I said simpler because in my experience I just select the frequency that I want and it causes no stability issues and under volt each step by 25mv.
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Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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I just like showing off to my my friend who has an iphone and can't do that :highfive:
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You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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I wish I could but I have a laptop plus have no experience in OC a pc.
Your right about that. If your not pushing it to it's limits its easy. But then again the same could be said for PCs.
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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Any overclocking can be unsafe as it can shorten the lifespan of your memory and CPU. But with that said I run mine at 1200 with no issues. Most people don't go higher than 1600 but anything 1400 or lower is not going to burn it up too quick IMO. Everyones hardware will react differently though.
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They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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ImjuzCY said:
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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I run IceColdSandwich and have found 1459MHz to be the best combo of performance and stability on my phone. Every phone handles OCing a little differently, some can reportedly take over 1600 without a flinch and others will lock regularly with even a slight OC. Just experiment with the "set at boot" option turned off until you find something that works reliably on your phone.
Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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I think OC can affect battery drain only if you use an application which utilizes a full cpu load. But, if you're using this app in normal mode, economy will not be great also. So, when you using your phone for calling or general usage you will not see any problems with battery discharge.
I'm using DHD with Blackout v3.0 and I set 1200Mhz for maximum cpu value. I have no problems, phone is stable. Some time ago I used Leedroid ROM and set also 1200Mhz, but phone was rebooted by itself very often. More than twice a day.
You should try to use OC, as someone said above, without "set on boot" option. I think there is no danger for hardware up to 1600Mhz.
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Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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Not under normal use. There's a school of thought that says even though the increased speed requires more power, it can also finish tasks and go back to sleep faster, so it ends up being a wash. I've overclocked all three smartphones I've owned to date and haven't experienced any significant difference in battery life.
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They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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They say that as a precautionary measure just as they say flashing a custom ROM can be dangerous. For people who don't know what they're doing. But precaution aside, just like you said you can go up to 1600 MHz safely on this phone. I know every phone behaves differently but on average no one has issues upto that frequency. But above that frequency the phone might be unstable. The CPU will be drawing much more power at high frequencies and will heat up more. The CPU heating up too much and too frequently reduces the life of the CPU. So it's not a myth.
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2ghz.... the phone is old now. Make it bleed.
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Don't try to Cross above 1600.