Should I root Motorola Defy with z4root or. ,? - Defy General

I have downloaded and installed z4root.Plz tell me should i root my phone and i have some question.
I want froyo and am not getting it OTA and i have T mobile Defy using in pakistan.The only reason for root are to update to froyo.
- can i able to update my phone to OTA froyo after root?
- can i unroot my phone?
- So after root I can remove T mobile apps and start up logo?
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You can flash without root, but lose downgradability.
Read the post carefully first before flashing.
To root use superoneclick, it works on all eclair and froyo roms.

what flash will do? and what the diffr b/w flash and root.
After update why ppl downgrade
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Rooting is simply giving you full admin access to the phone. It does not in any other way alter the phones system. Flashing is installing a completely different build onto the phone usually for upgrade purposes.
There are some people who find the upgrade to be buggy or unstable as compared to the Eclair build. This has especially been the case when upgrading with a leaked build that may not be fully tested. That is why one would want to downgrade.
Also, if you're region is not officially updated yet installing an update can void your warranty.

so after root will i get OTA froyo or after root same message appear your device are up to date
so kindly tell me the procedure of rooting or give me proper link of that thread.
And plz advice me i will go for it or not.Currently i dnt have any issue with my cell.
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cute_kayani said:
so after root will i get OTA froyo or after root same message appear your device are up to date
so kindly tell me the procedure of rooting or give me proper link of that thread.
And plz advice me i will go for it or not.Currently i dnt have any issue with my cell.
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No, you won't. If you just wanna upgrade to froyo, you don't need to root. You just need to flash a froyo rom.
You can find howtos in the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Defy#How-Tos

one more thing how to check my cell is from T mobile uk or usa?
Me purchased it from pakistan.
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And how to update builtin apps like youtube gmail etc.
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mpiekp said:
You can flash without root, but lose downgradability.
Read the post carefully first before flashing.
To root use superoneclick, it works on all eclair and froyo roms.
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You can downgrade the US defy. Thread link on how to. Basically the nordic sbf allows this to happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13109496
OP:
I never tried z4root but superoneclick has never failed me.
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splat matt said:
You can downgrade the US defy. Thread link on how to. Basically the nordic sbf allows this to happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13109496
OP:
I never tried z4root but superoneclick has never failed me.
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Yep, thought OP was from a different continent, shame there has been no later eclair releases for europe etc. As even if you revert to official build, surely they expect the original rom, if you need to return one.

mpiekp said:
Yep, thought OP was from a different continent, shame there has been no later eclair releases for europe etc. As even if you revert to official build, surely they expect the original rom, if you need to return one.
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so how to check that my cell from T Mobile USA or UK ?

Try to root with SuperOneClick is esier than z4root!!!

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Still no way to root successfully on new OTA?

I see people having problems with every method going. Just wanted to make sure I am not missing a thread somewhere as I can only view on phone app right now. I want to update but wont risk losing root.
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leenypost said:
I see people having problems with every method going. Just wanted to make sure I am not missing a thread somewhere as I can only view on phone app right now. I want to update but wont risk losing root.
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If you're rooted just flash a rooted rom, there's a few out already.
And: post in the right section.
eyeballer1 said:
If you're rooted just flash a rooted rom, there's a few out already.
And: post in the right section.
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My bad on posting in the wrong place, im on my phone and figured someone in this section would be the first to know, I appologize. I flashed a rom already with the new ota but I want to update the radio and 4g too and I read that aside from the possibilites of having 4g connection issues via bad mac addresses the new radio will cause problems with my old hboot and once I go to the 2.10 version rooting is not possible. I was just looking for any info saying otherwise but its a bit hard on the phone app to scroll through everything. I'll just wait until someone gets the root working and then unroot via s-on ,ruu back to stock 3.29 and dl the ota via HTC software update. Thanks for the time.
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This will root Hboot 2.10 radio 2.15
Confirmed working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9922782&postcount=1829
just got this working about an hr ago so give it a shot

[Q] trouble in switching to g2 default rom

HI
I have a t mobile G2 its permanent rooted , i want to switch to shipped rom of g2 ie the factory default os, i have tried "RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.4_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.24_M_release_155297_signed" but it gives error on installing error 159
plz help my current specs are
virtous g lite
baseband version 12.28b.60.140eu_26.03.02.26_m
kernal version 2.6.35.10-virtuos-glite-v3.0.1+rmk
Build number 2.13.531.8 cl56018 release keys
rom manager v4.2.1.0
please give me step by step procedure to switch back to G2 default rom so that i can get official updates
i am a new-bie
Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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Spastic909 said:
Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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While this is good advice, it's not really a useful post to respond to this question about. I'm researching the same type of issue for someone and this response has only been useful as an annoyance.
u do a clean install? if so try toggle signature..that worked for me before
Spastic909 said:
Well...your first mistake was not making a nandroid back up of your stock rom..that would solve this problem quick. As with anything "computer" related always make a back up before changing everything
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Sao phien ha the
Couple things,
If you install the official OTA update, you will lose root, and will not be able to get it back. Its not currently rootable, and AFAIK, people are having trouble even downgrading from the official Gingerbread OTA in order to root. So bottom line, official GB OTA is a bad idea if you want root.
Second, the official GB update is posted in the Development section, so you don't need to mess with going back to stock in order to get the OTA, if you still want to install the official GB update.
Third, there is a pre-rooted version of the GB update, also in the Development section. So THAT is probably what you really want.
Forth, the RUU you are trying to install is not the stock T-Mobile ROM. Its a stock Desire Z ROM (with Sense). Again, you will lose root if you flash an official ROM, but this one (1.34) is actually rootable. You should still be able to install it anyway, so I'm not sure what the issue is. You're trying to run the RUU from your computer, right? Its not one you flash from ROM Manager.
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While this is good advice, it's not really a useful post to respond to this question about. I'm researching the same type of issue for someone and this response has only been useful as an annoyance.
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So what's your point? Didn't see any rules on how to respond..
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[Q] Rooting questions

Hi guys, i have yet to root my phone, and hope i can learn all things about rooting sorted, before i root it. So i was wondering if i could back up my current ROM, without any methods requiring rooting, cause rooting requires downgrade, and that would defeat the whole purpose.
BTW, my current ROM version is 2.42.707.3 CL104011 release-keys
Not as far as I know, and why can't you root right now?
I can, but I would like if theres a backup of my Rom. Anywhere I can download fm?
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xudsa II USERT said:
I can, but I would like if theres a backup of my Rom. Anywhere I can download fm?
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The stock ROM is available in the wiki, as is the guide for rooting. Once rooted, install ROM Manager and ClockworkMod and preform a nandroid backup (this will back up your current ROM) before flashing any new ROMs
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Hmm.. actually hoping for my specific version, but guess that'll have to do, thanks guys (thanked you btw )!

[Q] if i root my htc desire z and flash custom rom,can i still get ota update?

well i was planning to root my desire z for this Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 rom,looks cool =D.But if the future ota come out,can i just flash the ota rom (OTA_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2-1.82.405.1_R_release_199251k3r3wb3a4l4wniec) to remove root and receive future ota updates?i know its stupid question..but im puzzled can someone tell me how to get official update if i have gotten root and custom rom? thanks
Steven How said:
well i was planning to root my desire z for this Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 rom,looks cool =D.But if the future ota come out,can i just flash the ota rom (OTA_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2-1.82.405.1_R_release_199251k3r3wb3a4l4wniec) to remove root and receive future ota updates?i know its stupid question..but im puzzled can someone tell me how to get official update if i have gotten root and custom rom? thanks
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If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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OriginalGabriel said:
If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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The ROM needs to have the updater apk stripped out for it not to work afaik?
OriginalGabriel said:
If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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Means if I'm using affinity I wont receive ota update,I know. What I means was can I just flash that official Rom with clockwork mod?after flashing back to official Rom I know I lost root and s on back. So will it receive ota notification if I flash the official Rom? I'm abit confuse >< srry I'm bad in this...
it´s not that easy to return to stock... the best thing you can do is follow the wiki for rooting. the wiki also descripes a way to return to stock (means reinstall official recovery, s-on and remove superCID)
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
and if you are waiting for a update to 4.0 ICS you better stay rooted and use customs roms
EDIT: in my country updates are recieved through carrier, so i think it´s important to have the original carrier firmware and CID to recieve ota updates
hoffmas said:
it´s not that easy to return to stock... the best thing you can do is follow the wiki for rooting. the wiki also descripes a way to return to stock (means reinstall official recovery, s-on and remove superCID)
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
and if you are waiting for a update to 4.0 ICS you better stay rooted and use customs roms
EDIT: in my country updates are recieved through carrier, so i think it´s important to have the original carrier firmware and CID to recieve ota updates
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Thx a lot hoffmas!=) well,how can you be so sure desire z would get ics? And if I flash virtuous affinity v1.4.6,then I want to update it to version 1.4.8. Do I have to factory reset and wipe everything in order to update to v1.4.8? I can use the virtuous unity v9 kernel right?? I know its stupid question..hope someone can help me with it =/
the desire z will probably get a update to ics and if so you will see a thread on xda with the stock rom to flash without loosing root but for sure cyanogen is going to be faster
wiping is always a good idea. best thing is to use superwipe and the wipe options in the recovery (system/data/cache)
here is a link for the superwipe (flash it through recovery):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
you can use unity v9 (flash it after first time booting), but unity v10 kernel is included in virtuous affinity 1.48
pls use the thanks button if my posting helped you
hoffmas said:
the desire z will probably get a update to ics and if so you will see a thread on xda with the stock rom to flash without loosing root but for sure cyanogen is going to be faster
wiping is always a good idea. best thing is to use superwipe and the wipe options in the recovery (system/data/cache)
here is a link for the superwipe (flash it through recovery):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
you can use unity v9 (flash it after first time booting), but unity v10 kernel is included in virtuous affinity 1.48
pls use the thanks button if my posting helped you
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Thx, but the unroot part is so complicated,instead of using that wiki, can I use this guide?
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-g2-htc-desire-z-complete-guide/
Sure there are different ways to return to stock, but i only post links to guides i used myself (so i know they work)
So maybe someone else knows, if the guide you posted works...
Actually the wiki looks complicated, but it isn't. It's a step by step guide and what is most important: it is a safe way
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About the super wipe,I should flash those 3 zip once I have root on stock rom?
No, you have to choose one .zip and flash it through recovery after you rooted an installed a custom recovery....
So if you want to install virtuous affinity use superwipe before flashing affinity (after using superwipe you have to install a new rom, because the old one is gone)
You are sure you know what you are doing? Do some researching before you start to root your device... Rooting means you can brick your phone.
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hoffmas said:
Sure there are different ways to return to stock, but i only post links to guides i used myself (so i know they work)
So maybe someone else knows, if the guide you posted works...
Actually the wiki looks complicated, but it isn't. It's a step by step guide and what is most important: it is a safe way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169004 can i just flash the 1st ota rom (only root and busybox added)? then check for future ota updates?
i don´t think you will recieve future ota updates using this rom... but roms like that one are the reason for me to say, that there is no point once you are rooted to wait for ota updates
official updates do come from your carrier and so its important to have the original CID and carrier firmware, as i mentioned already.
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I know wat do know what root means,I rooted wildfire and flash custom Rom before..but I don't plan to reverse back to stock since I already know they will be no future update..but for my desire z..is just that I'm impatient of waiting the ota...so maybe have a try on affinity,but I can't flash the official ota Rom (2.3.3 and sense 2.1) to return everything stock right? I know..kinda dumb of me,forgive me on my stupidity >~<
no i don´t think so... but maybe i am wrong. As i returned to stock for warranty, i did everything as written in the wiki guide and because i didn´t find the original vodafone firmware i did not recieve ota updates (even with original recovery, simlock and CID restore)
but i´m not a dev... maybe i´m completly wrong
If I'm grasping this correctly, you are worried that you won't receive OTA after rooting and flashing? I'm curious as to what OTA you are waiting for and what it has that other ROMs don't? (Honest question, I think the Z's had a few more updates than G2)
Not knowing aside, i'd say root it, flash what you want, and only return to stock if needed for warranty. Chances are you're going to find more support from the community here than with the manufacturer.
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biohazrd51 said:
If I'm grasping this correctly, you are worried that you won't receive OTA after rooting and flashing? I'm curious as to what OTA you are waiting for and what it has that other ROMs don't? (Honest question, I think the Z's had a few more updates than G2)
Not knowing aside, i'd say root it, flash what you want, and only return to stock if needed for warranty. Chances are you're going to find more support from the community here than with the manufacturer.
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Exactly! Well,wat I'm worrying was after I root and flashed then, the official ota (maybe sense 3.0) roll out then I will be stuck at root =/ I knw root I can do a lot of stuff..but idk y my mind just like stock =/ if the sense 3.0 of the future update can have horizontal home screen I will get it..
I don't know truthfully. My guess is that any update that WOULD come out would then immediately be ripped apart by the community and made better anyways. There are already quite a few ROMs with Sense 2.1/3.0 features, 3.5, etc, and ports from other phones that support landscape mode (a mt4g ROM if I recall).
You can always return to stock, though I don't think you'd ever want to. ;-)
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I don't know truthfully. My guess is that any update that WOULD come out would then immediately be ripped apart by the community and made better anyways. There are already quite a few ROMs with Sense 2.1/3.0 features, 3.5, etc, and ports from other phones that support landscape mode (a mt4g ROM if I recall).
You can always return to stock, though I don't think you'd ever want to. ;-)
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Desire z support my touch 4G Rom? But if my stock Rom is rooted,I caIn't receive ota right?
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I mean I can't receive ota right?
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How can i root my Xperia PLAY 4g???

Hello everyone from XDA, im new to posting here and new to rooting phones and all that. This Xperia PLAY is the R800at model from at&t running 2.3.3, and its also my first Android phone. I love it but i read about people who root their phones and can make their phone do so much more and run faster and all that. I am not a complete newb to tech stuff, for example i can jailbreak a ps3 and an iPhone. But androids are alot tougher, or so they seem to be since there's many different versions of the same phone like the Xperia PLAY, there's like 4 or 5 different ones. Anyway i just want a complete noob guide to rooting this version phone, (if that's even possible). If there's words or terms that you include that have a specific meaning that you don't think a newb would know, please tell me what it means. One more thing, will i need to unlock boot loader??? Btw wtf does that even mean! Lol..... Thank you so much guys for reading and hopefully responding with a good super newbee tutorial!
Edit: I'm sorry if i made anyone mad, like i said i'm new so i probably should have posted this in the Q and A's section.
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What build number do you have? If you've updated to .285 there isn't a way to root yet that we've found. If you are still on .270 the look for zergrush or flashtool to root.
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I just went through the same thing, and like spectre said if you have build .285 (go to settings-about phone- build number) it cant be done. So if your on .270 just search for flashtools, superoneclick, or doomlords rooting kit and then follow there instructions.
I've got 0.270... So i guess thats good. Another thing, if i root, will this prevent me from being able to update to the new ICS update later?
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tbird775 said:
I've got 0.270... So i guess thats good. Another thing, if i root, will this prevent me from being able to update to the new ICS update later?
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Nope you can still update.
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I've seen apps like Gingerbreak and z4 root that are supposed to be able to root your phone. Would this method work if i first unlock the bootloader, because they don't work right now.
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tbird775 said:
I've seen apps like Gingerbreak and z4 root that are supposed to be able to root your phone. Would this method work if i first unlock the bootloader, because they don't work right now.
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Download the latest superoneclick, latest flashtool or zergrush from doomlord. All three of those use the zergrush method to root and will work with .270
ZergRush one-click script works the best, IMO
When do you think there will be a way to root the .285 version?
Don't know. I'm seeing if a dev would work on trying to root it. Hopefully they figure something out.
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The trick is to root the older firmware, and update through OTA so you keep root. It must be OTA, not PC companion or SEUS.
OK... I just bought the same phone, AT&T unlocked 4G, Android version 2.3.3., but it is build # 3.0.1.B.0.285... does this mean that I can't root it? Anything I can do to get it to root? Like flashing something or some other method?
neverwinter said:
OK... I just bought the same phone, AT&T unlocked 4G, Android version 2.3.3., but it is build # 3.0.1.B.0.285... does this mean that I can't root it? Anything I can do to get it to root? Like flashing something or some other method?
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Use flashtool to go to either the earlier AT&T build or a generic build.
Is there a way to backup or dump the firmware I do have? In case I want to restore it?
I posted a ftf file for the .285 build in the general section. Its probably a few pages in. You can use it through flashtool to get back to stock .285
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Thanks a lot... I just rooted my phone now... now I am waiting forever to get the battery application installed.
So since I flashed and rooted my 4g XPlay, will updating it to .285 create any problems? Like not being able to root again or not being able to have root access? And is it better to have .285?
neverwinter said:
So since I flashed and rooted my 4g XPlay, will updating it to .285 create any problems? Like not being able to root again or not being able to have root access? And is it better to have .285?
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You can go to .285 if you update over the air and keep root. Any other way and you will lose root and you can't root .285
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You can go to .285 if you update over the air and keep root. Any other way and you will lose root and you can't root .285
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Sorry, what is over the air? And what is not over the air? You are referring to BT?
neverwinter said:
Sorry, what is over the air? And what is not over the air? You are referring to BT?
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Over the air is when you update from the phone itself using wifi, instead of plugging it into USB.
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