I'm installing this as a last resort before sending my phone back. After hard reset and everything, battery is still a major drain.
For those that are using it, how well does it work? Which settings are you using?
I've only the free version for now but would consider upgrading if it does help?
Also, how do you prevent meebo from disconnecting when the screen turns off? Is that an option on the free version?
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I'm installing this as a last resort before sending my phone back. After hard reset and everything, battery is still a major drain.
For those that are using it, how well does it work? Which settings are you using?
I've only the free version for now but would consider upgrading if it does help?
Also, how do you prevent meebo from disconnecting when the screen turns off? Is that an option on the free version?
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About Juice Defender, for me it worked with ~1.6x batterylife.
About Meebo: get Trillian, they made it for free this week. You stay connected even if your phone is off(for max of 1 day, changeable in settings) and you'll receive al the messages which came while your online the enxt time you login again. You can manage all your accounts on the PC with the regular Trillian program and then login on your phone with your Trillian account and all the accounts will be there. It is a real nice app with very low battery consumption.
The free version is very limited. I use the ultimate version and I'm rather happy with it. I don't want to schedule traffic when my phone is idle, but that would be a massive battery saver.
Yes, you can set different settings for each app in the paid versions. You can set a trigger that makes sure your internet is always on when meego is running, even when your screen is off.
But overall, I have no problem to use my phone for more than 12 hours on battery with moderate usage. Maybe you should send your device back anyway.
I had terrible battery drain as well but ive managed to resolve this. have you tried:
1. Deleting all social hub accounts?
2. Deleting your mail account if you use the stock mail app?
3. Updated to latest official firmware?
I was experiencing 10% idle drain per hour. Now i'm at 1-2%. Battery life is a huge improvement compared to my old desire. Dont guve up on this phone.
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In my experience standard battery drain per hour should be
1~2% screen off / data off
3~5% screen off / data on
12~15% screen on / data off
18~20% screen on / data on
WiFi uses less battery than 3g but as you can see display is main problem...
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I had terrible battery drain as well but ive managed to resolve this. have you tried:
1. Deleting all social hub accounts?
2. Deleting your mail account if you use the stock mail app?
3. Updated to latest official firmware?
I was experiencing 10% idle drain per hour. Now i'm at 1-2%. Battery life is a huge improvement compared to my old desire. Dont guve up on this phone.
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1. I froze all Samsung-related apps and accounts with Titanium Pro
2. I'm using the Gmail stock app. Is that bad?
3. I updated to KE2 and hard reset twice
4. I also froze the wifi apps
when my phone is idle overnight - screen off and not in 'awake', it dropped from 100%-56% in 7.5 hours. i posted a screenshot in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13875879&postcount=684
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when my phone is idle overnight - screen off and not in 'awake', it dropped from 100%-56% in 7.5 hours. i posted a screenshot in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13875879&postcount=684
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Sounds like you need to clear your battery history, leave it over night, then check what's been using it overnight to me.
I have 5-10% drop at most overnight (7 hours or so).
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Sounds like you need to clear your battery history, leave it over night, then check what's been using it overnight to me.
I have 5-10% drop at most overnight (7 hours or so).
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thanks. how would i clear battery history? is that under setting -> applications -> running ?
Also try clearing data on the software update app. That appeared to work for some people. U definitely have a rogue app eating your battery... Can you give us a list of your running processes immediately after you restart?
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So after using Juice defender ultimate for a couple weeks now, with the customizable apps configuration, I see no improvement in battery life.
I lost 50% charge overnight with just push email on (stock gmail app), only synching email and contacts.
For those with this app, what configurations are you using to improve the battery?
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I have it setup to turn the data, and wifi off while the screen is off.
Night mode is enabled, from 11:30, to 7:00am
I also have it only allow wifi via location, work or home.
It eats 1-2% while in standby per hour.
and about 3-4% overnight.
i tried juice defender ultimate and it made no difference. I deleted it just because its another app working in the background...
I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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how did you set it up?
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I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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Mine does that (1-2% per hour at idle) without Juicedefender and push email/facebook active. The problem with JD is also that when set to switch off Wifi and data in the background when the phone is idle, it doesn't always switch them back on after the phone awakens, resulting in many pain in the ass moments.
I bought it 6 months ago and never use it any more.
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The problem with JD is also that when set to switch off Wifi and data in the background when the phone is idle, it doesn't always switch them back on after the phone awakens, resulting in many pain in the ass moments.
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I use Green Power for that... simply awesome... light and stable.
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Vairn said:
I have it setup to turn the data, and wifi off while the screen is off.
Night mode is enabled, from 11:30, to 7:00am
I also have it only allow wifi via location, work or home.
It eats 1-2% while in standby per hour.
and about 3-4% overnight.
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hmm some people talks good, some bad about JD.
I paid for Ultimate version, and must say its brilliant!!
Over night 1-2% /6H
Standby 1-3% /Hour
with screenfilter i get 6 1/2 Hours with display on and UMTS today
from 78% drop to 10% and from 10% to 5% in 5Hours again.
Iam suprised with JD, very well
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how did you set it up?
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Pretty standard really wifi and mobile data enabled (ultimate version), autosync on ping, 15 minute scheduled check for 30s. I don't have it turn off data at night because the phone is usually plugged in and have data enabled when the screen is on. It also manages the wifi locations so usually it only connects to wifi.
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I use Green Power for that... simply awesome... light and stable.
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Hmm I'd never heard of that app, but did a bit of research and it looks like it really does wake the connections well with the latest release... will give it a try!
I lost 4%/idle for 12 hours.
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Running stable CM 6.1 with cm kernel & followed the steps of calibrating battery & my battery lifes still horrible, currently 1 hour after calibration and already down 2 70% from being on internet & a few texts
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Running stable CM 6.1 with cm kernel & followed the steps of calibrating battery & my battery lifes still horrible, currently 1 hour after calibration and already down 2 70% from being on internet & a few texts
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have u got spare parts? open it up and look at battery history and the running vs screen on time.
they should be the same but i can almost guarantee that your phone is still running whilst the screen is off. you need to find out the app which is keeping a wakelock on ur device and delete/change its settings
Ok thanx..will try this
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have u got spare parts? open it up and look at battery history and the running vs screen on time.
they should be the same but i can almost guarantee that your phone is still running whilst the screen is off. you need to find out the app which is keeping a wakelock on ur device and delete/change its settings
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Sorry for the noobish question, but can I compare the two. I went to spare parts and could not see where to compare screen on time vs running.
I recently tried to calibrate y battery, but sinse my screen does not shut off on its own as before. I've aleady checked the screen timers and all is as it was before.
Right now I am @ 4.5 hrs since I unplugged and I am sitting @ 76%, with little use...kinda sucks!!!!
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Sorry for the noobish question, but can I compare the two. I went to spare parts and could not see where to compare screen on time vs running.
I recently tried to calibrate y battery, but sinse my screen does not shut off on its own as before. I've aleady checked the screen timers and all is as it was before.
Right now I am @ 4.5 hrs since I unplugged and I am sitting @ 76%, with little use...kinda sucks!!!!
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Mines is pretty much the same way..only a few hours off charge n still draining like crazy
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bnoot said:
Running stable CM 6.1 with cm kernel & followed the steps of calibrating battery & my battery lifes still horrible, currently 1 hour after calibration and already down 2 70% from being on internet & a few texts
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What kinds of widgets do you have running in the background and how often are they pulling data?
Also, how many days have you been on CM 6.1? I upgraded from RC3 and my battery life is much improved. The first two days it was eating a lot as it 'calibrated' itself but now I can easily make it through a full days use with about 40% to spare.
I adjusted my background widgets and how often they pulled data and this really helped my battery life. Also, a poor signal can have VERY ADVERSE affects on battery life. For example, I work in a prison where cell phone reception is awful. If I am at work for 3 hours and leave the phone in 3G mode, I can easily go through 30% battery while the phone tries to find a signal...
Any idea how long will it take the batt tocalibrate???? I did the recalibration process on thurday night, and my battery sucks now.
I'm sitting on 49% only 4 hours unplugged. Before I was getting somewhere around 55-60% at this time interval...
Any ideas?
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Crey23 said:
Any idea how long will it take the batt tocalibrate???? I did the recalibration process on thurday night, and my battery sucks now.
I'm sitting on 49% only 4 hours unplugged. Before I was getting somewhere around 55-60% at this time interval...
Any ideas?
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Running stable CM 6.1 with cm kernel & followed the steps of calibrating battery & my battery lifes still horrible, currently 1 hour after calibration and already down 2 70% from being on internet & a few texts
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Alright boys try this. I got over 2 days worth of lifetime with this set up.
-Download SetCPU
Set your profile to 245/245 screen off with priority at 100%.
-Turn brightness to 0%
-Turn GPS off (Go to Settings->Location and Security-> turn off all that GPS crap
-Leave 3G off until you actually need it, then turn it back off after you're done with it
-Leave bluetooth off
-Don't have garbage widgets lying all over the place on 7 homescreens. I only have like 5 widgets spread out on 2 homescreens.
Are you guys running CM 6.1? Cause I am.
Did you guys overclock?
Thank me if it worked out for you =P
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Alright boys try this. I got over 2 days worth of lifetime with this set up.
-Download SetCPU
Set your profile to 245/245 screen off with priority at 100%.
-Turn brightness to 0%
-Turn GPS off (Go to Settings->Location and Security-> turn off all that GPS crap
-Leave 3G off until you actually need it, then turn it back off after you're done with it
-Leave bluetooth off
-Don't have garbage widgets lying all over the place on 7 homescreens. I only have like 5 widgets spread out on 2 homescreens.
Are you guys running CM 6.1? Cause I am.
Did you guys overclock?
Thank me if it worked out for you =P
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Convolution Thanks for the reply, but im more interested in getting a few more hours but with certain level of freedom. I am not all that interested in switching things on and off every time I need them, but I understand what you mean.
I'm looking to get 16 hours of moderate use...that should be plenty. I currently turn off wi-fi and gps since I seldom use gs, and wifi is governed by a profile manager, and it's on only at night.
but setting connection down to 2G, and killing all screen brightness renders the device (IMHO) useless. Also, SetCPU @245 100%, would really hinder the device.
I am running CM6.1 Stable and I am running OC'd @ 1497, but on "On Demand" profile, so to use only as needed.
I still have to try Pershoot's kernel, I think I will flash it tonight to see what happens.
I am also experiencing some oddity with my screen time-out feature...it's not working.....my screen refuses to turn off by itself, I have to lock the device physically for it to take effect....not sure what changed...but the regular parameters are set properly.
I'm getting 2-3 days with the stock WWE ROM that came with the phone. Brightness is set to Auto, but I keep GPS, BT, WiFi and mobile data connection off until I need them. Other than that, I talk about 20-40 mins/day, send out a few texts, listen to the radio, read my feeds and e-mail - pretty much everything the phone was made for.
IMHO, the "calibration" is bullcrap, it's just an impression that it lasts longer afterwards.
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I'm getting 2-3 days with the stock WWE ROM that came with the phone. Brightness is set to Auto, but I keep GPS, BT, WiFi and mobile data connection off until I need them. Other than that, I talk about 20-40 mins/day, send out a few texts, listen to the radio, read my feeds and e-mail - pretty much everything the phone was made for.
IMHO, the "calibration" is bullcrap, it's just an impression that it lasts longer afterwards.
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Basically the same setup I have in terms of connectivity except for data.....does it really have that much impact on battery life?
What would I missing if I decide to turn data off?
Thanks!
Huge impact. Try it out for a day or two. Or just install Juice Defender, which disables it while the screen is off, turning it on at set intervals (like for 1 min every half hour) to let it sync.
Thanks Keinengel....I'll look up Juice Defender...sounds like the right thing!
i get atleast a day and a half out of my phone and i had it for about a week now. best battery ive had for a while now.
Wow guys...installed juice defender and pershoot's kernel, and only gone 1% in about 2.5 hour....I'll report again tomorrow
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So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
You could try using Bloat Freezer to freeze apps. I have alot of the acer stuff frozen, and with it in standby, easily goes a day. Things like socialjogger, acer init, etc.
These are the apps I've completely removed from system apps, made a backup of course..
AcerClockwidget.apk&odex
Agendawidget.apk&odex
Aupeo.apk
Clearfi.apk
DTG.apk
LinkToFacebook.apk&odex
MusicA.apk&odex
MyLocationWidget.apk&odex
NemoPlayer.apk
Planner.apk
SocialJogger.apk
Solitaire.apk
Xt9.apk
You can also remove appinapp butyou will loose the games multimedia app I use that so kept it.
Battery life hasn't been that bad on mine. I expected worse, I just picked mine up last week and after reading reading reviews I expected worse.
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So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
That's what I was thinking. I get a decent amount of usage from it; it's when I'm not using it is when I feel like it drains the most.
I started freezing apps last night and let it charge overnight. I've still got to go through my apps and remove a few I don't use, and check to make sure they're not syncing too often. Do you all leave your gps and wifi on all of the time or have them shut off while the tablet sleeps?
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
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My settings are to never turn WiFi off and I always leave sync on; I like getting notifications and app updates. I have a weather app that updates every hour and Pulse news that updates every 4 hours.
I also always leave my GPS on, but there aren't many apps that use it while it is not in focus, so I rarely ever see GPS pop up on my battery usage list.
I do not use a live wallpaper.
I found that with wifi on, my tablet drains about 1.5% per hour when idle.
allthrottle said:
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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I suggest other than setting wifi to turn off when screen is off is to use a wifi toggle widget. You really never know what happens when the screen is off if your wifi is really turning off. Wish it was built in to the quick launch though like some Honeycomb tablet.
You can also use setcpu to setup profiles so that when the screen is off the processor stays at a slower speed rather than jumping into high gear when something wakes it up to sync. I've been able to go days without having to recharge (but I only use it for reading books, listening to the music I have on google music and play order and chaos every once in a while). I havn't touched my a100 in about 4 days and its sitting at 62% battery power.
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here is my usage, I never turn off wifi no profiles
I don't necessarily think you need to remove any of the stock app. My wifi is set to turn off when screen is off, GPS off unless I need it (apps like facebook will use it when you open it since it tries to get your location for checking in even if you're not checking in). Gmail is left at default but other mail is set to never (I just manually sync it when I open it).
If you wanna go a step further, you can install a wifi on/off widget to completely turn it off just incase an app is trying to use wifi.
With my setting my battery drains about 1-1.5% an hour when screen is off. IMO the screen is what uses the most battery. However though after conditioning the battery for 3 cycles it's been lasting longer.
I was just about ready to return / exchange my a100 so I did a factory reset on it. Lost track of time and forgot to, so I just decided to boot it back up and play with it. Left it alone at around 70% yesterday afternoon, came back home at 7pm today and to my surprise it was at 40% battery remaining. Must've been an app or setting I had that was killing it.
Probably end up hanging onto this awhile longer. Great tablet for the money!
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thats more like it glad you got it back to normal.
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
jay_993 said:
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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I think with the 1gb ram on our device there shouldnt be a need to freeze any app and it doesnt defrost itself on reboot. Atleast it shouldnt.
Also I found for the most part if an app can be deleted it will let you delete it by dragging the app icon in the upper right in the app drawer. This is probably the safest way to delete rather than doing it in root explorer or TU.
This might be a dumb question but is it possible you have wifi issue that i've had on 2 a100s which will prob cause it to use more battery as its trying to work harder locking on.
It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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Do you have a lot of widgets that requires syncing like youtube, twitter, weather, facebook? Those are the apps you probably what to check. OR you can just turn off wifi if youre not surfing or streaming.
Here's mine with wifi turned off. It was at 89 but I had to turn on wifi so I can find a screen capture app in the market. I have lots of apps including facebook, twitter, weather widget, which cant sync cause the wifi is off. Have not removed any stock app. I know this doesn't really answer what you asked but I'm just thinking something else might be wrong other than apps. Maybe its your battery not holding correct charge. Have you tried calibrating the battery?
I tried calibrating the battery the first time around. This time (after the reset) I haven't done anything special and have so far been getting 2 days of idle/light use before needing a charge. Satisfied so far. I was mainly concerned that I wouldn't be able to go on a trip without it needing a charge while sitting in my bag for a day without use.
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Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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do you have apps that can access your location? (weather apps, maps etc.) If yes, you may wanna go settings > location and security > and then uncheck "Use wireless network" in case you have not done it yet.
I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
vil33 said:
She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
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Wouldn't phone idle be the max usage? For my Atrix phone idle is at 70% or so when I barely use the phone and Android OS is 3%. I can try disabling facebook overnight to see if the Android OS usage goes down.
The battery life for this phone is ok. It hits ~30% or so in the early evening, meaning we need to charge the phone if she goes out that evening. For my Atrix the battery doesn't hit 30% until midnight under light usage conditions (no games).
Is there an app or logcat keyword to filter to break down exactly which thread/process is using up the CPU?
edit: nm, going to read through this first
From looking at the wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats the likely culprit for the battery usage is the facebook chat portion of the fb app. The wife has many contacts in the chat, so it's probably polling quite a bit. For me the wakelock count for fb chat is fairly low. fb chat is a must for the wife so I can't disable it.
Also in the process screen I see several kworkers with high usage...not sure exactly what's causing that.
so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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my infuse 4g has a battery drain because of fb.....it's always the next thing that is draining the battery (i hope to get screenies). I just force close fb (or set refresh interval to "never") when I am done using it....
I can't say that this is same as yours but it may be a thing to look up.
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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eddiert said:
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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I just updated it within the past hour or so. No idea what changed.
eddiert said:
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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jayjayjoker2 said:
Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Yes, it's a bug and I hope that they have fixed it.
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Doesn't appear to have fixed it. Charged up. Two hours later android os is at 26%. Second only to screen. Before I started using it it was at 60%.
Do you happen to use advanced task killer this may help
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
Well when I first use my phone a lot of apps are running at startup but you could have a bad phone I don't have the phone so I don't know
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eddiert said:
Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
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From the betterbatterystats output, I'm pretty sure the high Android OS usage is software related and specific to the stock ROM. The radio and wifi battery usage are normal.
I have no clue what the kworker processes are doing when the phone is supposed to be idle. Overnight my Atrix is 68% idle, 12% cell standby...android OS is 2%.
Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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jayjayjoker2 said:
Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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BT is already off. I could turn off both wifi and data network and if it turns out that is what is causing the battery drain (does not seem like it)...then what? Don't use wifi and the data network? It seems like there's little we can do as an average user to fix the high Android OS usage when idle. It does not seem like high kworker process usage can be fixed by TiBu or other simple fixes from a user.
Another update from Samsung, custom ROMs, and other dev fixes on xda seem to be the only options.
You need to find the source to find a rom that will repair this sometimes an launcher can make your battery die faster I know that Facebook and the browser use a ton of ram I have a stock app on my phone called application manager and I can stop apps that are using my ram
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Hello,
as everyone im really happy with my GN2.. everyone says that the battery just drops 1% percent everyhoure..?? thats not the case with me.. it drops 10%-15%.. is there any settings you have done?? its still on stock rom didnt rooted YET
I didnt install/download any virus or fool apps from playstore (Ive read many threads but they were all the one who downloaded just random apps from playstore and that caused for battery drain..)
waiting for your answers..
ps: everyone is welcome with his settings.
AskinSavascisi said:
Hello,
as everyone im really happy with my GN2.. everyone says that the battery just drops 1% percent everyhoure..?? thats not the case with me.. it drops 10%-15%.. is there any settings you have done?? its still on stock rom didnt rooted YET
I didnt install/download any virus or fool apps from playstore (Ive read many threads but they were all the one who downloaded just random apps from playstore and that caused for battery drain..)
waiting for your answers..
ps: everyone is welcome with his settings.
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Wow. 1% every hour? I won't be bothered to change my phone if that happens :silly:
A normal Galaxy Note 2 has a 1% drain every 10-20 minutes of screen-on time.
The screen-off time of the Galaxy Note 2 is indefinite. Depends on what you have on
haha when i first saw that i thought wOott 1% / hour impossible.. but when more persons said the same i thought "hmm maybe I'm wrong".. so they are ****ting maybe D
but tbh do u have everything on like google? google now etc??
now u have said that im pretty released from ma sorrow
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haha when i first saw that i thought wOott 1% / hour impossible.. but when more persons said the same i thought "hmm maybe I'm wrong".. so they are ****ting maybe D
but tbh do u have everything on like google? google now etc??
now u have said that im pretty released from ma sorrow
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No, I don't actually. I do not know what the screen-on time from persons' who have sync on.
I usually get 7++ or 8 hours screen-on time, from my usage.
That's with wifi, games, phone calls, messaging.
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No, I don't actually. I do not know what the screen-on time from persons' who have sync on.
I usually get 7++ or 8 hours screen-on time, from my usage.
That's with wifi, games, phone calls, messaging.
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okey m8, thanks for your answers =D im just going to delete juicedefender then..
its good but when ur screen is off it sets ma data off so i cant get any whatsapp or other internet notifications..
thanks for your help =)
wanam said:
Some simple tips to get the best of your battery life :
Disable auto sync for accounts
Disable GPS
Disable auto backup of Gmail account
Set brightness level to automatic
Disable motion if you don't use it
Check your apps settings and disable useless background sync
Disable useless animations
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These tips will help you
AskinSavascisi said:
okey m8, thanks for your answers =D im just going to delete juicedefender then..
its good but when ur screen is off it sets ma data off so i cant get any whatsapp or other internet notifications..
thanks for your help =)
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With this kind of device, you won't need Juice Defender
I leave everything on: data, wifi, autosync, nfc, autobrightness, everything.
I still get a full day with 5-6 screen time.
Just charge every night. No point disabling data and sync and everything. Makes it pointless to have a smartphone
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kylec said:
I leave everything on: data, wifi, autosync, nfc, autobrightness, everything.
I still get a full day with 5-6 screen time.
Just charge every night. No point disabling data and sync and everything. Makes it pointless to have a smartphone
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Wow. Wifi and data on? You must have super internet, man! Coolness!
I've left the office just about an hour ago... Charge was 100% and I have opened video (auto-play next=ON) playlist. Trip to home has took about 40 mins and every single second device has played videos, non stop.. No app, nothing special. When I arrived, the charge was 99%
It's probably has its very own battery optimizing systems inside which is clearly avoiding energy leaks.
I guess, I don't need anything for now to improve charge durability... Just fyi about my little test~
Hello again,
Actually our phones need nothing for better pattery durability. But if you wonder your battery specifications, i would like to recommend "Battery HD Pro" from google play market. It supports Turkish language and more.
Good luck.
The gnote2 loses ~10% an hour on WiFi and ~15% on mobile data. You can get more than 10h reading books with white text on black background. And videos on internal/external storage can get you more than 10h display depending on the video. I generally get about 10h display in WiFi and 6-7h on a workday where I use mobile data and I haven't flashed a custom kernel yet. Too much extraneous junk with the current kernels. Just looking for one that allows custom voltages on various things, mainly CPU and GPU.
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I don't use any power saving apps. I have everything turned on and syncing 3 email accounts. I lose 1% overnight and rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. What did I do? Just turned off google now and the 3 tick marks under GPS setting. Good luck!
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Wow. Wifi and data on? You must have super internet, man! Coolness!
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Haha no I just don't like turning things off. I could use tasker or something similar but right now its unnecessary.
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Just to share my battery drain, i play games almost 4 hours a day, rest of the time texting, maybe at most 2 hours of screen-off a day, my phone is 40% when it says 8 hours on, dunno what all you have, i have wifi, data sync, auto brightness, and well gaming, the game though are bike race and minecraft, but when with sometihng heavier like modern combat you can expect 6 hous and its 20% just sharing im stock rooted..
I agree with @akdenizx
Wanam's tips is so succesfully for battery life. I use my phone with this advice. I am happy. My phone is charged every 1.5 day by me
I want to one tip for wanam's tips.
Wi-fi sleep policy must set never.
Try using white text on true black background. Saves a lot of power on Amoled displays. The inverted colour option on the stock browser gave about 13 hours of screen time compared to the normal 7 hours
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The inverted colour option on the stock browser gave about 13 hours of screen time compared to the normal 7 hours
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Cant find this option.. Please can you explain where it can be found ?
Thanks in advance mate!
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Cant find this option.. Please can you explain where it can be found ?
Thanks in advance mate!
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Accessibility options at the bottom. In stock browser.
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I am trying to troubleshoot my battery drain issue so I have been inserting a fully charged battery into my Note 2 just before bed.
Stock 4.1.2 ROM
Rooted
Night 1
Before bed: 100% battery, airplane mode
Wake up 7.5 hours later: 100% battery life
Night 2
Before bed: 100% battery, WiFi connected, background sync enabled
Wake up 7.6 hours later: 54% battery life
I have Greenify and BetterBatteryStats and still can't figure out what is sucking down the power.
Sync Interval:
Twitter: 4 hour
Facebook: 30 min
Touchdown HD: Push (exchange)
Reddit News: 12 hours
Any help would be appreciated!
I think you really have nearly answered your own question - it's the syncing that's killing your battery. FB is notoriously bad at draining a battery all on its own and the others may be bad too. The dead giveaway is the phone isn't deep sleeping anymore with sync on. Keep up your experiments but freeze each app/process in turn to see how bad each one is and you'll find out. No need to leave it over night - an hour or two should be plenty to find out. In fact, if you have your phone set for max battery life, it should go into deep sleep within minutes of locking it. Personally I only sync manually and that's including email - but I'm not too plugged in so I don't mind checking a couple times a day manually. It does mean killer battery life though! Really any process that is constantly waking up your phone will do the same thing as fb - Google Now with location history on is another bad one.
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This ^^^^^^here is pretty much correct!!
Hate to say but you should just get rid of facecrook. Lol:what:
If you have to use it on the web...
I don't use it..
Me 2¢®
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I use fb and I get no battery drain from it
Still unsure about which app is the main culprit. Facebook seems like it could be the biggest problem. Attached is my dump from BBS (BetterBatteryStats) I tried the same thing as the night before except I did the following
Facebook Sync: Never
Twitter Sync: Never
Touchdown HD: Push (exchange)
Reddit News: 12 hours
Night 3:
100% battery before bed, background sync enabled.
52% Battery by wake up.
NOTE: 10076 (Wifi) (com.android.vending.Google Play Store): 86.0 MBytes 95.3% was my apps updating just after boot.After all apps were done updating, I put the phone to sleep until morning.
Things I am going trying.
Freeze Samsung Push
Freeze ChatOn
Greenify Facebook
You need to understand that virtually any app that has the ability to poll your phone and push updates to it automatically without you visibly seeing it is going to drain your battery. This includes:
1. GPS
2. Having your data on in general (networks push packets to each other to stay within protocols regardless)
3. Google Accounts (syncs your calender, contacts, people, etc.)
4. Google Now
5. Mail
etc, etc.
I know this is a little off subject but will face book still drain Battery even if you have location off and sync off?
Facebook Messenger was an issue. It kept waking up my device. I have been doing some testing though and have had almost no luck until tonight.
I disabled WiFi before bed with 100% battery. 7 hours later, 91% battery.
I need to find which apps are using WiFi so heavily.
Go grab greenify from play store
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Go grab greenify from play store
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I have been using Greenify the whole time. Currently, it looks like when on WiFi apps are going crazy with connecting and waking up the phone. On Mobile, I got much better battery life.
Try backing up all ur data on internal and SD card.. Then do a complete fresh install.
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I have been using Greenify the whole time. Currently, it looks like when on WiFi apps are going crazy with connecting and waking up the phone. On Mobile, I got much better battery life.
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Yes. I have the same experience. When WiFi is on, the battery life is much worse.
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Try backing up all ur data on internal and SD card.. Then do a complete fresh install.
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+1:thumbup:
fookxixi said:
Yes. I have the same experience. When WiFi is on, the battery life is much worse.
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Ok Wi-Fi being on won't kill your battery. Maybe you need to set your to, keep Wi-Fi on during sleep= NEVER. That'll help your battey life some what..
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