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Removing Bloatware aka "what can I do to get better battery life?"

So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!

You could try using Bloat Freezer to freeze apps. I have alot of the acer stuff frozen, and with it in standby, easily goes a day. Things like socialjogger, acer init, etc.

These are the apps I've completely removed from system apps, made a backup of course..
AcerClockwidget.apk&odex
Agendawidget.apk&odex
Aupeo.apk
Clearfi.apk
DTG.apk
LinkToFacebook.apk&odex
MusicA.apk&odex
MyLocationWidget.apk&odex
NemoPlayer.apk
Planner.apk
SocialJogger.apk
Solitaire.apk
Xt9.apk
You can also remove appinapp butyou will loose the games multimedia app I use that so kept it.
Battery life hasn't been that bad on mine. I expected worse, I just picked mine up last week and after reading reading reviews I expected worse.
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allthrottle said:
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).

That's what I was thinking. I get a decent amount of usage from it; it's when I'm not using it is when I feel like it drains the most.
I started freezing apps last night and let it charge overnight. I've still got to go through my apps and remove a few I don't use, and check to make sure they're not syncing too often. Do you all leave your gps and wifi on all of the time or have them shut off while the tablet sleeps?
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
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My settings are to never turn WiFi off and I always leave sync on; I like getting notifications and app updates. I have a weather app that updates every hour and Pulse news that updates every 4 hours.
I also always leave my GPS on, but there aren't many apps that use it while it is not in focus, so I rarely ever see GPS pop up on my battery usage list.
I do not use a live wallpaper.
I found that with wifi on, my tablet drains about 1.5% per hour when idle.

allthrottle said:
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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I suggest other than setting wifi to turn off when screen is off is to use a wifi toggle widget. You really never know what happens when the screen is off if your wifi is really turning off. Wish it was built in to the quick launch though like some Honeycomb tablet.

You can also use setcpu to setup profiles so that when the screen is off the processor stays at a slower speed rather than jumping into high gear when something wakes it up to sync. I've been able to go days without having to recharge (but I only use it for reading books, listening to the music I have on google music and play order and chaos every once in a while). I havn't touched my a100 in about 4 days and its sitting at 62% battery power.
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here is my usage, I never turn off wifi no profiles

I don't necessarily think you need to remove any of the stock app. My wifi is set to turn off when screen is off, GPS off unless I need it (apps like facebook will use it when you open it since it tries to get your location for checking in even if you're not checking in). Gmail is left at default but other mail is set to never (I just manually sync it when I open it).
If you wanna go a step further, you can install a wifi on/off widget to completely turn it off just incase an app is trying to use wifi.
With my setting my battery drains about 1-1.5% an hour when screen is off. IMO the screen is what uses the most battery. However though after conditioning the battery for 3 cycles it's been lasting longer.

I was just about ready to return / exchange my a100 so I did a factory reset on it. Lost track of time and forgot to, so I just decided to boot it back up and play with it. Left it alone at around 70% yesterday afternoon, came back home at 7pm today and to my surprise it was at 40% battery remaining. Must've been an app or setting I had that was killing it.
Probably end up hanging onto this awhile longer. Great tablet for the money!
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thats more like it glad you got it back to normal.

Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.

jay_993 said:
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?

jay_993 said:
Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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I think with the 1gb ram on our device there shouldnt be a need to freeze any app and it doesnt defrost itself on reboot. Atleast it shouldnt.
Also I found for the most part if an app can be deleted it will let you delete it by dragging the app icon in the upper right in the app drawer. This is probably the safest way to delete rather than doing it in root explorer or TU.
This might be a dumb question but is it possible you have wifi issue that i've had on 2 a100s which will prob cause it to use more battery as its trying to work harder locking on.

It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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allthrottle said:
It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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Do you have a lot of widgets that requires syncing like youtube, twitter, weather, facebook? Those are the apps you probably what to check. OR you can just turn off wifi if youre not surfing or streaming.

Here's mine with wifi turned off. It was at 89 but I had to turn on wifi so I can find a screen capture app in the market. I have lots of apps including facebook, twitter, weather widget, which cant sync cause the wifi is off. Have not removed any stock app. I know this doesn't really answer what you asked but I'm just thinking something else might be wrong other than apps. Maybe its your battery not holding correct charge. Have you tried calibrating the battery?

I tried calibrating the battery the first time around. This time (after the reset) I haven't done anything special and have so far been getting 2 days of idle/light use before needing a charge. Satisfied so far. I was mainly concerned that I wouldn't be able to go on a trip without it needing a charge while sitting in my bag for a day without use.
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Weird drain overnight

Hey guys, I got this weird drain of about 1%/ hr over a period of 6 hours overnight with 2g data and auto sync on, the previous night with 3g data on I drained only 2% in 9 hours.
Apparently my phone has one hours of being kept awake by a wake lock named
mdm_hsic_pm0
And another hour by
Battery_monitor
Does this happen to anyone else?
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Frostyeo said:
Hey guys, I got this weird drain of about 1%/ hr over a period of 6 hours overnight with 2g data and auto sync on, the previous night with 3g data on I drained only 2% in 9 hours.
Apparently my phone has one hours of being kept awake by a wake lock named
mdm_hsic_pm0
And another hour by
Battery_monitor
Does this happen to anyone else?
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I have the same at the top but not as long as yours. Dont know what it is from?

Frostyeo said:
Hey guys, I got this weird drain of about 1%/ hr over a period of 6 hours overnight with 2g data and auto sync on, the previous night with 3g data on I drained only 2% in 9 hours.
Apparently my phone has one hours of being kept awake by a wake lock named
mdm_hsic_pm0
And another hour by
Battery_monitor
Does this happen to anyone else?
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Same here on the note 2 with Sprint but I loose about 2-3% per hour. Go to sleep with 100% wake up in the morning with 80-85% left....

This is the only thing i found in bbs thread
mdm_hsic_pm0 is afaik the same as l2 Hasic, just a new name under Jellybean, so its traffic related, i would keen an eye on my background activity..
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battery monitor wakelock is almost related to the BBS

ssame thing happening to me..should i change kernel ?

i have same battery monitor drain and wlan_wake

I use to have battery drain on my GT-N7100 (and overheating problem). What turned out was that the Gmail sync on one of my accounts was going in a loop and never ending. When I fixed it, all went back to normal.

What rom / Kernels you peeps running? I had this once, flashed a different rom and no problem. Currently running Omega 7.1 with excellent battery life over night.

Mdm hsic is related to mobile data and this includes both 3g and wifi. Turn off 3g when not in use and you will see this wakelock going down. THe other one is nothing to worry
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Reuven007 said:
I use to have battery drain on my GT-N7100 (and overheating problem). What turned out was that the Gmail sync on one of my accounts was going in a loop and never ending. When I fixed it, all went back to normal.
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What exactly did you do to fix the gmail sync issue? PLEASE, do explain. This battery drain is absolutely horrible.

tonyf7 said:
What exactly did you do to fix the gmail sync issue? PLEASE, do explain. This battery drain is absolutely horrible.
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First, when you set the phone for the first time it does a lot of initial activity that may cause drainage.
In my case, I have 3 gmail.com accounts on my phone. I only need one of them to sync email, Picasa, contacts and calendars. On the other 2 I need only email. The phone was syncing everything on all accounts: in addition to the above also Google Photos, Play Magazines,Play Music, Internet, Keep and People Details.
As soon as I disabled all the unwanted syncing, things improved.

Annoying battery thread

Whats normal battery on this phone for you guys like? I really don't think mines normal. I've never gotten 10+ hours battery life on a custom ROM. never, and I flash like crazy, I've tried cm aokp aosp Jedi cm, ics tw ROMs, and Jb tw ROMs. Never over 10 and on tw jb I wouldn't even get over 5 hours, I'm not a heavy user, I check twitter sometimes and Facebook, a tiny bit of instagram.. not that much, with juice defender pro I can squeeze 7 hours from Jb touchwiz, and maybe 9 on an ICS ROM.. is my battery dicked? Stock koodo ROM gives me 14+ hours, so wtf? Maybe just a koodo t989d problem? My battery is physically in shape, I've monitored wake locks, checked chargers, virtually everything. WTF?
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You need gsam and CPU spy to see what's draining your battery and if phone is deep sleeping.
The apps you said you use are pretty much big battery drainers BTW! I finally got my wife using the mobile Facebook webpage instead of the app. It was killing her battery and using all kinds of data while she was at work not even using her phone.
But yeah....your battery life is horrendous. Something is going on.
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I have both, my phone deep sleeps. I've even UNDERCLOCKED! Still **** battery life. I'm not so big on Facebook, I don't use it too much really. Twitter though I am on a lot.
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Im running the Unicef Rom v13.5 and I have been getting around 22 hours of use with around an hour and a half or two hours of screen time. I aslo just flashed it so I have to let it break in to get the full benefits. But yeah you should try checking out Anker Batteries and monitor what is using up your battery. Juice Defender I found is a big battery drainer and are you in an area with low reception?

Okay, uninstalled juice defender. I was thinking of getting the extended galaxy nexus battery, but will it really make a big difference?
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Make sure you go into your apps like FB and twitter and turn off all notifications. notifications will kill your battery life.
Also, check apps that sync. you can go into your google accounts setting and turn off stuff you don't use or need to sync automatically, like google drive (just sync manually).
And turn off backups in the system settings.
lots of apps are configured to update automatically or configured to send error/usage reports, so make sure you go in to your apps and look for settings like that and turn them off.

THANK YOU
mike-y said:
Make sure you go into your apps like FB and twitter and turn off all notifications. notifications will kill your battery life.
Also, check apps that sync. you can go into your google accounts setting and turn off stuff you don't use or need to sync automatically, like google drive (just sync manually).
And turn off backups in the system settings.
lots of apps are configured to update automatically or configured to send error/usage reports, so make sure you go in to your apps and look for settings like that and turn them off.
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Thats probably one of the most helpful suggestions ive heard yet, thank you. I heard Quallcoms battery saving app does help with this, maybe ill give it a try?

Facebook drains my battery.

After I've noticed my battery can't last for more than 3 hours, I decided to upgrade from ARHD 18.1 to ARHD 19.2 and remove Sense. Phone is faster and it seemed like the battery was doing better, but then it started again with all the sudden decreases: it goes from 35% right down to 25% all of a sudden and stuff like that.
I drained the battery and the phone was shut down and I let it charge all night, when I unplugged it in the morning it went down to 99% right away and then didn't touch it for 29 minutes, that's when I turned on the screen and saw it went down to 90% without even touching it!!! I checked what took so much battery and it showed Facebook with 50%, and I haven't even opened Facebook today. Moreover, Facebook wasn't even opened in Task Manager so how come it drains battery?
Thank you.

MaorSwan said:
After I've noticed my battery can't last for more than 3 hours, I decided to upgrade from ARHD 18.1 to ARHD 19.2 and remove Sense. Phone is faster and it seemed like the battery was doing better, but then it started again with all the sudden decreases: it goes from 35% right down to 25% all of a sudden and stuff like that.
I drained the battery and the phone was shut down and I let it charge all night, when I unplugged it in the morning it went down to 99% right away and then didn't touch it for 29 minutes, that's when I turned on the screen and saw it went down to 90% without even touching it!!! I checked what took so much battery and it showed Facebook with 50%, and I haven't even opened Facebook today. Moreover, Facebook wasn't even opened in Task Manager so how come it drains battery?
Thank you.
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It drains because its set to sync your contacts and you feed as well as send notifications for things such as wall posts and messages all of which it needs to check for.
On the drop when unplugged that's normal, the phone charges to 100%, it will still show 100% but it lets it drop to 95% then charges back up this stops the battery from being overcharged.
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treebill said:
It drains because its set to sync your contacts and you feed as well as send notifications for things such as wall posts and messages all of which it needs to check for.
On the drop when unplugged that's normal, the phone charges to 100%, it will still show 100% but it lets it drop to 95% then charges back up this stops the battery from being overcharged.
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Ok that's good to know, but 10% within 29 minutes of being idle? That's way too much! How do I prevent it from syncing and such?

Open the app and go to settings. Turn off syncing in there.
Edit : I also turned off autosync in the settings - sync menu of the phone

Mr Hofs said:
Open the app and go to settings. Turn off syncing in there.
Edit : I also turned off autosync in the settings - sync menu of the phone
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It doesn't work; I turned off autosync for all apps, turned off any notifications whatsoever on Facebook, and it still drains my battery when idle.

Have you tried using greenify to hibernate it?

chirag123 said:
Have you tried using greenify to hibernate it?
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Come again? You just spoke Chinese man.

Maybe a good alternative to try out. Uninstall the facebook app and use the mobile site for a while !

Have you checked betterbatterystats to see if something else is draining your battery? I used to use the Facebook app and it drained some battery, but nowhere as rampant as you mentioned.
To be fair though I've been using the Facebook No locations apk in the android themes and apps section, hated how it would turn my GPS on every time I opened it.
I still got notifications if I turned off all syncing and location reporting in the app etc. Lastly, you could try SLK notifications for Facebook.
A simple app that hardly drains any battery life (well on my s3 is used about 2% over a 24 usage cycle). All it does is notify you when you have a notification. You can set it to open in the Facebook app (for example if you greenified it) or you can set it to take you to the Facebook webpage or an alternative Facebook app.
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DramatikBeats said:
Have you checked betterbatterystats to see if something else is draining your battery? I used to use the Facebook app and it drained some battery, but nowhere as rampant as you mentioned.
To be fair though I've been using the Facebook No locations apk in the android themes and apps section, hated how it would turn my GPS on every time I opened it.
I still got notifications if I turned off all syncing and location reporting in the app etc. Lastly, you could try SLK notifications for Facebook.
A simple app that hardly drains any battery life (well on my s3 is used about 2% over a 24 usage cycle). All it does is notify you when you have a notification. You can set it to open in the Facebook app (for example if you greenified it) or you can set it to take you to the Facebook webpage or an alternative Facebook app.
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I've uninstalled Facebook when it was 89% and it took about an hour to go down to 85% idle and when I installed it again every five minutes I turned on the screen and it was one percent less till it got down to 71% and now I uninstalled again and it lasts more. It's definitely the Facebook that drains my battery.
Edit: ok wait, no.. I've used it for like 40 seconds and it was 71% and now it's gone down to 66% right away, what the hell is wrong with this?! I ****ing hate this phone!

Why hate the phone? It's the Facebook app you should hate As suggested by chirag, use the app Greenify. It hibernates the apps that you choose, that means it stops it from running in the background and consuming data.
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facebook also drains battery on my HTC One.
uninstalled it and the battery improved by miles. it also charged faster.

yeah facebook always runs in the background...if you need to stay connected to chat use ebuddy which is more battery effiecient
best thing now is to greenify it.its greenified in my phone (get greenify from play store)
also...check your mA with battery monitor widget while its in sleep it should not exceed -50 mA while the phone is in sleep with all autosynce and wifi off

aseferfan said:
yeah facebook always runs in the background...if you need to stay connected to chat use ebuddy which is more battery effiecient
best thing now is to greenify it.its greenified in my phone (get greenify from play store)
also...check your mA with battery monitor widget while its in sleep it should not exceed -50 mA while the phone is in sleep with all autosynce and wifi off
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i think the facebook app always runs and connects to internet and keeping something on always awake , maybe the radio.
something is wrong with the facebook official app, even though after disabling notifications, they still come through

Also the Facebook Messenger causes a ****load of wakeups...same with Facebook app. Definitely a huge battery drainer! Tried out the messenger for 2 days...unplugged the phone this morning. After 45 minutes i checked battery life by using better battery stats and the messenger had alreday caused 27 wakeups without even using it!!
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[Q] Rapid Battery Life depletion during sleep

Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???

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Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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go to settings/power/usage. this will tell you which app is using the most of you battery. also you should never have gps on while youre sleeping. you might also want to turn off auto-sync and then re-enable it after you wake up. you can create a widget to do just that. if you need help with that, just let me know.

Turn data Wi-Fi and gps off lol.... You are asleep
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nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.

dspcap said:
Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...

.kronos. said:
you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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You can go into settings and make sure everything is unchecked. Mine had several checked by default and it was draining battery.
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)

nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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airplane mode...
Really, 1% per hour on standby with cellular radios on is pretty acceptable. Depending on signal strength, the radio could be pulling that just to maintain a connection to the tower.

Thanks everyone!
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.

nscian12 said:
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
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Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!

andybones said:
Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
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Thanks! unfortunately I don't root my phones but for now the One does what I need it to perfectly and seamlessly

nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4

similar problem here....google services is killing my battery (relatively). location is part of it, but google hangouts is also going crazy (watchdog alerts me to excessive usage....over 50%, but hangouts was at 100%)
i was spoiled on my g-nex, where i left wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7 and could easily go 24 hours. now i'm lucky to get 12 (with about 1 hour of screen on time).
I'm hoping things will sort out, device is only about a week old, but google optimized location usage (iirc) such that it isn't supposed to constantly ping and kill battery. we shall see, i guess.

I'm not sure what the problem could be but I'm just gonna say that yesterday I got around 18 hours of battery life with over 5 hours screen on time which I consider awesome battery life.
I'm stock, so it's definitely possible to get good battery life.

10 percent overnight? Thats not that great but not horrible. My dna is running carbon (android 4.3) I use tasker to turn off autosync and data/wifi and put it on silent at whatever set time I make it. My phone drains about 5 percent max overnight, usually a lot less.

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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
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you can turn off updates in facebook and its not bad, but yeah if you have autoupdate on, it can kill the battery.
as far as the OP, I don't get why you don't charge you phone while you are sleeping. Seems like the perfect time.

Turning GPS off shouldn't affect your battery life. If you're not using your phone, the phone isn't going to use the GPS for anything. So it shouldn't be using your battery. The culprit is usually an app that is wakelocking your phone. So you need to find which app it is that constantly wakes your phone from deep sleep. Turning off autosync would help a bit if you are really paranoid. The big thing that hurts our battery when the screen is off, is the LTE radio, but most people are connected to WiFi when they sleep so it's not a big deal.
Just an FYI, turning off GPS has been ineffective since 2.2 Froyo. When Gingerbread 2.3 was released like 2+ years ago, it allowed for the GPS to only be used when an app called for it to be used. Otherwise GPS will not do anything unless you pull up an app that calls it to do something.