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Nandroid backup failure?

So I'm not entirely sure where to start with this one. I'm running myn's roms... was on RLS3 and went to update to RLS4 the other day. Did a nandroid backup via clockwork/ROM manager. The install of the new ROM took forever (over 30 minutes) and when it finished, for whatever reason clockwork didn't restart automatically like it usually does. When I did reboot the unit, it hung forever (I actually left it plugged in and booting while I took an hour nap)... so I finally rebooted it into recovery and restored my backup.
When the backup loaded I reset the phone, and the image was very broken. Actually to be fair, the image seemed fine... except for whatever system android uses to keep track of installed apps was corrupted. Most of my apps were missing, including core google ones. The marketplace, all of my file browsing apps (astro and root explorer) and even things like live wallpapers and maps were missing.
Next, I tried several things, including doing a fresh wipe and install of a working ROM (tried both myn 2 and 3) and then tried restoring my backup again... no matter what the backup took me to this point (and yes I understand why that is... I was just hoping that the restore wasn't actually restoring some file that the ROM would put back... as unlikely as that was).
So at this point I'm over losing all my stuff to reinstall ... but I really want to keep my text messages and call history. I can't get anything installed to back them up though... since the market is missing, as well as anything like astro, etc. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for extracting the SMS/MMS and call history stuff out of the backup I have... or getting them backed up somehow when I'm loaded into my botched recovery. I still have full internet, call and SMS access... so if there were some web-based backup I could even run that (although I don't think there is). I'm at a bit of a loss... I'd really like to get the data I want backed up before I start new. At the moment I'm still using the phone as I can still get core functionality.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know. Thanks!

install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps

xlGmanlx said:
install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps
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It sucked when romanger and clock work broke for me. Never again.
Clock doesn't wipe correctly. Search it.

Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.

If you flash the rom overtop of itself you want lose anything, so try that
agent0014 said:
Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.
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So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!

Go to clockwork and down at the bottom click install alternate recovery, viola
agent0014 said:
So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!
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[Q] Visual Voicemail (VVM) Backup & Restore: Can it be done and how?

This is a really important question for me since I have many voicemails downloaded to my Evo, and I cannot upgrade my Fresh Evo installation (3.1.0.1) without a full wipe.
There is a similar thread here. However, nobody ever responds, even to say "No, it's just not possible." But since the voicemails are downloaded to the phone, it seems like it must be possible to backup and restore them.
Has anyone succeeded in backing up and restoring visual voicemails? Can anyone provide instructions? I'd really really appreciate if anyone can finally answer this.
(I understand many of you just use Google Voice, but that in itself doesn't allow me to preserve the voicemails I already have.)

If you find out I would also like to know.
ScaryBugThing said:
This is a really important question for me since I have many voicemails downloaded to my Evo, and I cannot upgrade my Fresh Evo installation (3.1.0.1) without a full wipe.
There is a similar thread here. However, nobody ever responds, even to say "No, it's just not possible." But since the voicemails are downloaded to the phone, it seems like it must be possible to backup and restore them.
Has anyone succeeded in backing up and restoring visual voicemails? Can anyone provide instructions? I'd really really appreciate if anyone can finally answer this.
(I understand many of you just use Google Voice, but that in itself doesn't allow me to preserve the voicemails I already have.)
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!

ScaryBugThing said:
This is a really important question for me since I have many voicemails downloaded to my Evo, and I cannot upgrade my Fresh Evo installation (3.1.0.1) without a full wipe.
There is a similar thread here. However, nobody ever responds, even to say "No, it's just not possible." But since the voicemails are downloaded to the phone, it seems like it must be possible to backup and restore them.
Has anyone succeeded in backing up and restoring visual voicemails? Can anyone provide instructions? I'd really really appreciate if anyone can finally answer this.
(I understand many of you just use Google Voice, but that in itself doesn't allow me to preserve the voicemails I already have.)
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Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6444182&postcount=13
I'm pretty sure I have seen a third party app somewhere that can accomplish this. Don't know if it works as I have used GVoice exclusively for a few years now.
You should probably start by searching the market or AppBrain, etc. If I find the name, I'll update this post.

Thanks when I get by my computer I'll thank you with the button.
Just_s said:
Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6444182&postcount=13
I'm pretty sure I have seen a third party app somewhere that can accomplish this. Don't know if it works as I have used GVoice exclusively for a few years now.
You should probably start by searching the market or AppBrain, etc. If I find the name, I'll update this post.
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!

nuggyunlimited said:
Thanks when I get by my computer I'll thank you with the button.
Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!
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No problem. Also, you'll probably want to try posts 13, 14 and 15.

Why has no one mentioned Titanium Backup? Does it not work for VVM?

aph said:
Why has no one mentioned Titanium Backup? Does it not work for VVM?
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Titanium Backup doesn't seem to cover VVMs, no.
To all, thank you for your replies. I'll have to buy Root Explorer, but hopefully copying the VVM files from the path from Just_s / Otaknedroid will do it.
If anyone's tried that method and gotten it to work, please post!
(Also, I'm still interested if there's an app specifically to do this...)

For me, they've always come back after a wipe. They're stored on a cloud, and the phone automatically downloads all the ones that were in your voicemail.
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flomexico said:
For me, they've always come back after a wipe. They're stored on a cloud, and the phone automatically downloads all the ones that were in your voicemail.
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That's really weird. You say "after a wipe," but does that include after installing a whole new ROM? Every time I install a new ROM, they disappear and never come back... From the other replies, it seems like that's normal. I wonder what's different about your system.

Yeah, after a new ROM too. Hmm, I'm wondering now too. I'd always thought everybody's did that.
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I backed Up & Restored my voicemail with Titanium Backup Pro
I have a Samsung Epic with latest Bonsai Rom. Within the app list of Titanium Backup Pro v 3.6.8 I selected the "voicemail T.5.1.0.52" app. I backed it up with data. After I wiped my phone, i selected this app and since the app is pre-installed, I selected to "restore data" only. This restored all of my voicemail from before my hard reset!

My voicemails always come back after a wipe and flash as well.

sumcrazyguy said:
I have a Samsung Epic with latest Bonsai Rom. Within the app list of Titanium Backup Pro v 3.6.8 I selected the "voicemail T.5.1.0.52" app. I backed it up with data. After I wiped my phone, i selected this app and since the app is pre-installed, I selected to "restore data" only. This restored all of my voicemail from before my hard reset!
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I have the Epic as well, and was restoring from a backup of EC05 Stock pre-rooted.. I backed up the data of my Voicemail T 5.1.x.xx app in Titanium Backup, and after the EC05 restore I attempted to restore the Voicemail DATA ONLY and it failed - twice. Even attempting to restore App+data will not work..
I'm pretty disappointed I may have lost the voicemails I thought would restore

Titanium Backup for Voicemail Messages
ScaryBugThing said:
Titanium Backup doesn't seem to cover VVMs, no.
To all, thank you for your replies. I'll have to buy Root Explorer, but hopefully copying the VVM files from the path from Just_s / Otaknedroid will do it.
If anyone's tried that method and gotten it to work, please post!
(Also, I'm still interested if there's an app specifically to do this...)
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I have voicemails backed up and have been restoring them to my VVM on several different roms. I use Titanium Backup for this and have not had any issues with it. I have backed up "Voicemail T.5.1.0.60" When I restore the app, I select Data only and it restores all of the prior voicemails that existed during the most recent backup. Hope this helps.

Restore Visual Voicemails on non-rooted phone?
I'm a noobie with non-rooted Evo4G and Evo3D phones.
I'm trying to save the VVMs on my Evo4G and transfer them to my Evo3D.
So far the only way I've found is to forward them one by one to my email, but this loses all properties for the voicemail (date received, from whom, etc).
I tried using Titanium backup, but it won't allow me to install without rooting first... and I'm nervous about rooting and cause problems.
I've searched the forums without luck.
Does anyone know where the visual voicemail files are stored on the EVO4G, or how to move them to a new phone? There must be a way, since it's clear they are stored locally, not in the cloud.
Thanks for your help

delevin1 said:
I'm a noobie with non-rooted Evo4G and Evo3D phones.
I'm trying to save the VVMs on my Evo4G and transfer them to my Evo3D.
So far the only way I've found is to forward them one by one to my email, but this loses all properties for the voicemail (date received, from whom, etc).
I tried using Titanium backup, but it won't allow me to install without rooting first... and I'm nervous about rooting and cause problems.
I've searched the forums without luck.
Does anyone know where the visual voicemail files are stored on the EVO4G, or how to move them to a new phone? There must be a way, since it's clear they are stored locally, not in the cloud.
Thanks for your help
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/data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes
Having root....go to that directory on the phone...preferrably with Root Explorer...copy the folder and paste it to ur SD card directory. Database and VVMs saved as .AMRs will be inside which u can copy back to the data directory when ur done flashing or what have u. good luck

zagman said:
/data/data/com.coremobility.app.vnotes
Having root....go to that directory on the phone...preferrably with Root Explorer...copy the folder and paste it to ur SD card directory. Database and VVMs saved as .AMRs will be inside which u can copy back to the data directory when ur done flashing or what have u. good luck
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Thanks for the reply.
My EVO isn't rooted, and when I use ASTRO, I can't find the directory you reference. Is there a way to find the visual voicemail files on a NON-rooted evo?

Delevin1 - did you have any luck with this? When I open Astro, by default it starts in the directory /mnt/sdcard, but clicking the "up" button twice will take me to the root directory / and from there I can go to /data and its subdirectories.

Hopefully zagmans method works. But if not..your voicemails will always be in ur last nandroid backup. So you could nandroid back to listen to one. I know it would suck to do that but at least your voicemails arent gone.. just always make a nand backup!
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Data Directory and New VVM version (T.5.2.0.24)
Yes, I'm able to get to the Data Directory using ASTRO File Manager, but the directory appears empty, even when I change the preferences to "show hidden files".
The Visual Voicemail app recently received an update that added "folders", including a "Deleted" folder (so you won't lose a voicemail that you accidentally deleted), and an option to "Move to SD". This moves selected voicemails to the /mnt/sdcard/smvvm directory which is great progress. However, it renames them (e.g. SD-10A, SD-11A, SD-12A, etc) so you lose data about who the voicemail is from, when it was received, and how long it is (although you can see the size of the file)
In the properties (as viewed via ASTRO) for each file, it shows the modified date as the date you moved it to the SD card, not the date it was recorded. There is no created date.
Definitely a move in the right direction, but still needs some work.
David

[Q] nandroid --> sms msgs?

Ok this is a very important question. If I performed a nandroid backup on Amon RA's recovery using default selections, does that backup sms messages? I have some important msms I forgot to backup but need, now realizing thwy might be on my nandroid?

tristan325 said:
Ok this is a very important question. If I performed a nandroid backup on Amon RA's recovery using default selections, does that backup sms messages? I have some important msms I forgot to backup but need, now realizing thwy might be on my nandroid?
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SMS is in /data so as long as /data is checked...yes
Gosms has the ability to back up sms on a daily basis as well.

mattykinsx said:
SMS is in /data so as long as /data is checked...yes
Gosms has the ability to back up sms on a daily basis as well.
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Ok i'm going to be honest, my girlfriend had some really important SMS msgs she needed and I rooted her phone without letting her know that her msgs would be erased.
Is /data checked by default? If so, i'm willing to reload the nandroid backup I made, use smsbackup app to save them, then REflash CM7 which I loaded and restore her SMS.
If someone could please let me know if this is a default checked option, I'd really appreciate it.. If so I have some work to do, but waiting on responses.

tristan325 said:
Ok i'm going to be honest, my girlfriend had some really important SMS msgs she needed and I rooted her phone without letting her know that her msgs would be erased.
Is /data checked by default? If so, i'm willing to reload the nandroid backup I made, use smsbackup app to save them, then REflash CM7 which I loaded and restore her SMS.
If someone could please let me know if this is a default checked option, I'd really appreciate it.. If so I have some work to do, but waiting on responses.
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Yes, it is default.
By the way, if you just go into the nandroid folder on her SDCARD you can see "data.img" which will confirm it's been backed up.

tristan325 said:
Ok i'm going to be honest, my girlfriend had some really important SMS msgs she needed and I rooted her phone without letting her know that her msgs would be erased.
Is /data checked by default? If so, i'm willing to reload the nandroid backup I made, use smsbackup app to save them, then REflash CM7 which I loaded and restore her SMS.
If someone could please let me know if this is a default checked option, I'd really appreciate it.. If so I have some work to do, but waiting on responses.
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yes. /data is checked by default.

ak074 said:
yes. /data is checked by default.
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Just in case the yes four minutes ago wasn't good enough?

thanks for responding so quickly.

tristan325 said:
thanks for responding so quickly.
TMI, but her long time best friend recently passed away, and she was hoping to save some of their last SMS conversations she wasn't ready to delete.
In an attempt to alleviate some of her recent performance issues, I wanted to root/ROM her phone with AmonRa/CM7. I did a nandroid backup, but felt really bad when she found that all her msgs were erased. I just had to see if it was possible to restore, thanks guys.
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Good luck buddy!
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At My Wits End

ok so heres what has happened. I dropped and broke my Sprint Gs3 scrren + digitizer. Luckily i was on someone elses plan at the time, so i simply created a new plan in my name and got a replacement Gs3 that way. (since the plan i was on had no insurance).
The problem im having is with only 1 app in particular. Its a game called Guilty Dragon, and its only in Japanese. i didnt know until i broke the first phone, that all my character data is stored in 'data/app' folder. the game itself lets you backup you character via logging into twitter, which is supposed to make it easy to migrate your character in situations like this one. Problem is, every time i try to use that twitter function to restore my character data to my new phone, the app crashes. I've already contacted Namco Bandai in Japanese, still no response from them about this. I was hoping there would be some way to get the data/app folder backed up from the original, now broken digitizer, phone, since it is still recognized on my pc with a usb cable. I've tried APK Batch Installer tool v1.5, but it did not back up the data like it said it did, instead it put an empty data folder in the backup directory. Any help, thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated, im on a SPH-L710 with JellyBombRom v13.0.0 , i tried updating to v 15 at first but it was doing the same thing with this app so i thought maybe it was the cause, downgraded to what i had before and still the same problem. I dont think its a problem with the rom though since i even just basic rooted and tried the game before flashing roms and it still also did the same thing.

Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data

CNexus said:
Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data
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yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?

CharmingNotSincere said:
yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?
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Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321

tkepk181 said:
Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321
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That, or online nandroid dude

Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.

CharmingNotSincere said:
Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.
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Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.

CNexus said:
Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.
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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.

topherk said:
Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.
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hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.

CharmingNotSincere said:
hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.
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Open your backup and go to /data/data/package-name-of-game-here/ and check to see if that directory even exists and if there are files there.

[Q] Titanium and 4.3 rom

Hey guys, sorry to post here but long time reader, first time posting. I have searched and found a few topics but nothing that helps. I am on liquid 2.9 and have backed all apps/data. I recently flashed crDroid AOSP [Build3]. Titanium wont restore anything from apps to call log. Its a clean flash and have the most up to date titanium. Also, have the newest 4.3 gapps. Tried 3 clean flashes. Any suggestions?

Are you having the issue where it just hangs there when restoring? If so, go to menu>preferences>backup folder location>(select detect)>(select whole Device)>pick the one that is located in /storage/emulated/legacy/0/TitaniumBackup. Just make sure its the one in the legacy folder.

I do have that with the apps. Thanks. I will try that. With call log and messages it will say the restore has been completed successfully and it will take less than a second or two but nothing will show in the log or messages. Any suggestions on that issue. I know i can just start over but like to carry those over with me.

nexus_man said:
I do have that with the apps. Thanks. I will try that. With call log and messages it will say the restore has been completed successfully and it will take less than a second or two but nothing will show in the log or messages. Any suggestions on that issue. I know i can just start over but like to carry those over with me.
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Do you have a backup of your last ROM? If so, use the app "Nandroid Manager" in the Play Store. You can restore texts and call logs from your backup. I've never used Titanium Backup to restore texts and call logs so I dont know about that issue.

Thanks. I will try that. I have always used that and it usually works great but 4.3 is a different animal. I am sure Titanium is working on it but wanted to see if I was missing something. Thanks for the help.