[Q] Desire won`t recognize sd card. Running out of options. - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
My desire wont recognize the sd card. In android self it shows please insert new sd card. I have done this but no succes. Factory reset was no succes.
I reflashed to stock rom didnt work.
the fastboot enableqxdm 0 doesnt work for me.
In recovery i get this message.
E: can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk1p1) No such file or directory. Error mounting /sdcard
Current situation is stock 2.2 Rom, rooted with Unrevoked.
Does anyone have an idea?
Greetings and thanks Tom

Did you format the SD card?

Yes i did with 2 different cards. A 4GB and a 1GB sdcard.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13750830&postcount=56
That should fix it mate
Just to make things clear. It's a usb brick. There is easy fix, but you have to install android sdk, and use adb command.
Once you have sdk installed, open cmd
type cd c:\program files\android\android-sdk\platform-tools
then
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
and then
fastboot oem eraseconfig

Thanks will post results shortly
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
{Update}
I tried the method but i got a error.
here`s what i got from the cmd screen.
----------------
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\tools>fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
...
OKAY [ 0.024s]
finished. total time: 0.024s
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\tools>fastboot oem eraseconfig
...
(bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
OKAY [ 0.007s]
finished. total time: 0.008s
-------------
Maybe its a simple thing but i cant seem to find it.
here some additional specs of my phone.
HBOOT-0.75.0000
RADIO-4.05.0011
S-ON
Maybe this will help shed some light on the matter.

Have you tried running latest RUU for you phone?
Is your card now recognized?
P. S. You were in fastboot when running both commands? I mean fastboot mode on the device.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes i was in fastboot got there with power + back button.
Card is still a no go. Ill try and find the latest RUU in the morning. Gotta get some sleep its 2.30 am now.
Thanks for the help hopefully ill get it sorted in the morning.
Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

This is great!!! worked like a charm!!! Thank you so much!!!
i was actually losing my mind because I had the SD problem about a week ago, and only did the "fastboot oem enableqxdm 0" part, the guide I read didn't have the eraseconfig part.
Since then, my USB was acting up reaaly bad, device not recognized, not even charging, device would notice it's connected HOURS after phisically connected etc.
I was worried I've killed the best phone I ever had =[
Again, thatnks a lot!! =]

Glad it worked for you can you post your specs so that i can compare? Thanks
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gilgreen said:
This is great!!! worked like a charm!!! Thank you so much!!!
i was actually losing my mind because I had the SD problem about a week ago, and only did the "fastboot oem enableqxdm 0" part, the guide I read didn't have the eraseconfig part.
Since then, my USB was acting up reaaly bad, device not recognized, not even charging, device would notice it's connected HOURS after phisically connected etc.
I was worried I've killed the best phone I ever had =[
Again, thatnks a lot!! =]
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I'm having the same issue, I ran fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 then fastboot oem eraseconfig but still no joy, was that exactly what you did to resolve the issue ?

pjd007 said:
I'm having the same issue, I ran fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 then fastboot oem eraseconfig but still no joy, was that exactly what you did to resolve the issue ?
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Is your SD recognized by other devices ? (Computer or another phone)
Make sure that the partitions on your SD are primary not logical.

Basically u just have a USB brick
Do fastboot oem boot the tell me ur Cid the I will instruct u further
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pjd007 said:
I'm having the same issue, I ran fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 then fastboot oem eraseconfig but still no joy, was that exactly what you did to resolve the issue ?
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after both commands and a reboot everything worked fine, SD recognised and completly useable.

Try to enable Bluetooth gilgreen cuz that commant only fixes SD access and not the actual USB brick if u had one
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hey guys...
I got the unrevoked 3 and unrooted my HTC Desire... everything went ok... The problem came next... Now it does not read any micro sd card, like most ppl complained..
I've been searching and trying several things for the latest hours and got no luck...
Most ppl said it's an usb brick, still following instructions here and in modaco i cant fix it, cause i just cant copy any files to sdcard.
The sdcard is working fine cause it reads on computer. I already reformated it...
I tried using the fastboot commands but nothing worked...
I didnt thought about this before rooting, but i think the phone is locked to an operator.. Dont know if it mattered.. Still.. the root is working... had no problems.. Only it does not recognize any sd card.. in OS or in recovery.
Any lights out there of me???
some info:
Bravo PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.27

seymour_butts said:
hey guys...
I got the unrevoked 3 and unrooted my HTC Desire... everything went ok... The problem came next... Now it does not read any micro sd card, like most ppl complained..
I've been searching and trying several things for the latest hours and got no luck...
Most ppl said it's an usb brick, still following instructions here and in modaco i cant fix it, cause i just cant copy any files to sdcard.
The sdcard is working fine cause it reads on computer. I already reformated it...
I tried using the fastboot commands but nothing worked...
I didnt thought about this before rooting, but i think the phone is locked to an operator.. Dont know if it mattered.. Still.. the root is working... had no problems.. Only it does not recognize any sd card.. in OS or in recovery.
Any lights out there of me???
some info:
Bravo PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.27
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I strongly recommend the repartitioning of the SD and reformatting. Do you guys have any other partitions besides the FAT32 ? Is FAT32 a primary partition or logical ?

i already reformarted it.. its fat32.. only some space is allocated cause i wanted to make other partitions, ext4, to put a new rom...
but i noticed now in windows that its a logical partition.. everytime i do it it makes it logical. also used minipartion tool to format it in fat32

seymour_butts said:
i already reformarted it.. its fat32.. only some space is allocated cause i wanted to make other partitions, ext4, to put a new rom...
but i noticed now in windows that its a logical partition.. everytime i do it it makes it logical. also used minipartion tool to format it in fat32
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Maybe that's the problem. Use the minipartition tool to partition and format.

finally got a new card to test here... strange thing.. that one it detects... its only in fat.. not fat32
another strange thing is that i cant set to primary... dont have that option in minipart tool enabled... really strange... but i can use the card in windows and it works good...
even when i format it on minipart tool it sets it as logical.. LOL..
damn

just tried to enter in recovery mode.. with the card with no partition.... tried to format it there.. still cant mount it.. lol

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[Q]can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0, sdcard removed, insert new

Hello Friends,
This is my first post,
I think my phone is having some serious problems
Please Help
Details
Using RUU
Rooted
Fastboot working
Amon-RA recovery working
HBoot 093 S-OFF
CID HTC__044
Phone working well
Can flash roms in *.exe formats.
Problems
E: can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 in recovery
Android cant find Sd card
says
sd card removed. insert new one.
Can't flash anything from sd card
Remedies till now tried :
1. USB unbricking as said here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6641266&postcount=1
2. Method depicted here
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...com/309939/usb-brick-rickrolled-b0rked-fixed/
didn't work as it needs sd.
3. sdcard working in PC. Tried many. Formated many times. Cleaned contacts of sd card.
4. fastboot oem enableqxdm0
says ok. of no use.
Help appreciated
Thanks all in advance
Please Help, Im in a fix
Sd-card bricked?
No superuser in terminal for not being rooted. Search and read instead of expecting others to do everything for you because you ask so nicely, which you don't.
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try a different sdcard
Rastaman-FB said:
try a different sdcard
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I tried other sd. Same condition.
I just rooted my Desire with unrevoked.
I'm able to turn S-off, but as I've no nand-backup of no-a2sd roms I can't restore. Restoring nand-backups of a2sd-roms via fastboot is doing well, but system can't boot in OS lacking sd-ext.
I used
Code:
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
It said Ok. But, I didn't see any benefit.
Ik Desire said:
Sd-card bricked?
No superuser in terminal for not being rooted. Search and read instead of expecting others to do everything for you because you ask so nicely, which you don't.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yea. You are right.
I edited the post and title. Check it.
This worked for me
Don't know if you fixed this issue. Found this and it worked for me:
andras_m said:
I've solved this by running:
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
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It's on this thread: Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
h t t p ://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563298&page=3
May help someone.
ok ppl basically fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 fixes sd access in android so you can copy the fix off the sd card to /data
pm me the cid of your phone (not sdcard) and i will make a specific fix for your cid
phew just tried that second fastboot command and it cleared all my problems up in under a second!
That were close
Thanks
you mean the command "fastboot oem rebootRUU" solved the problem??
kafos said:
you mean the command "fastboot oem rebootRUU" solved the problem??
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sorry no the second command, I just placed the phone in fastboot mode and used
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
ok try to enable bluetooth if it doesnt then its not fixed you still have a brick
Solved for X10
I had the same problem after I moved one of the application to SD memory.
I installed Generic version 2.1update1 build 2.1.A.0.435 from [TOOL] [UPDATE 14/08/2011] Flashtool version 0.3.0.0 thread

HELP FAST ! Cant Mount Sd :(

Hey,
i unmounted my SD Card with CWM... And now i restarted... Because SD doenst work in OS i tried to start recovery, but i can only start Amon RA... And Mount doesnt work **** !!! What should i do ??
adb is not possible
And ive got a Mac Book
greez
pls help!!
Windows is also ok...
xiadao96 said:
pls help!!
Windows is also ok...
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Remove the card and try to connect it to PC using the microSD card reader.
Don't worry too much! But yeah, take it out, connect it to your PC (through a card reader or whatever) and see if it recognises it. Hopefully this is the case.
If not, you might have to reformat it... but please don't do this just yet! Wait a few more posts and see if anyone else has a bit more experience on the matter
Sure ... Its only on the phone ...
If i flash ruu via pc... root will be gone, but does sd card work then??
Do u have Android sdk installed if so u need to do two fastboot commands as it sounds like u have usb brick n stops Ur SD card from bein mounted
Once u have sdk installed use these commands
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem eraseconfig
U need the device in fastboot then on MAC
Open cmd type fastboot then the two commands
But make sure Ur sdk path is correct else cmd won't find the location
Hope this help pal
Ps I don't have MAC this is the way for windows
WINDOWS is also ok!
SO How do i get in the sdk?? I am a newb, sry...
What if i root again with unrevoked an let it install cwm and mount it over that??
Or can i install a ruu, would this one work??
http://www.androidfiledepot.com/Sto...io_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_122755.exe
I have a german desire hboot 0.93 slcd and it had tmobile.branding before i rooted anf installed oxygen...
The problem is that i somehow have to boot cwm and then mount it over that...
Greez
If u are rooted n can get into fast boot Google android sdk n install it n follow the commands I said
Sent from my HTC Desire
So i install sdk, then connect fastboot (do i need a driver? ) and then start cmd... and then??
Or is this sdk a Program, which i can start and it starts a Terminal??
Btw i have got amon ra and cwm installed. Via fastboot i can only start amon ra, how do start cwm?
And hiw can i install apps from market without the sd carf, because it doesnt work as you know...??
Thank
When i want to mount it says
E:can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 no such file or directory E: can't mount /sdcard
Maybe thats important...
that was covered about 3 times yesterday
*search* button lol
Yes the commands I gave u for fastboot will sort this issue buddy install android sdk then once install run fastboot from cmd on Ur MAC then the 2 commands
Ps u need Plug Ur device to MAC boot into fastboot before u start the commands
Sent from my HTC Desire
Hey it says adbwinapi.dll is missing
YEAHHH! Guys you are the best !!! THX !!!
That's a start
1st step from not bein a noobie lol next time u will no the process
Ps its a happened to me a lot on ra recovery I stay with cwm
Sent from my HTC Desire
USB doesnt work...
Wat ya mean Wen u turn usb connectivity its known just try a few times if not just do it from recovery or us SD card reader
Sent from my HTC Desire
I'm having similar problems, SD card won't mount when in phone either in recovery or normal.
The SD card can be seen when in a USB reader in the PC
I've followed your instructions below and they exectued OK, but I still can't see the SD Card.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rob.
daddyspud said:
Do u have Android sdk installed if so u need to do two fastboot commands as it sounds like u have usb brick n stops Ur SD card from bein mounted
Once u have sdk installed use these commands
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem eraseconfig
U need the device in fastboot then on MAC
Open cmd type fastboot then the two commands
But make sure Ur sdk path is correct else cmd won't find the location
Hope this help pal
Ps I don't have MAC this is the way for windows
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Aha - sorted it myself!
I checked out another SD card and it worked fine. So I put my (broken) SD card into my old Hero and it was recognised OK... Strange I thought as I expected it not to work.
As it was visible from the Hero, I was then allowed by ROM Manager to Partition it. Can't remember exact values but it was approx 512 & 0.
Once this had been completed, and although it had problems mounting on reboot to perform the partition, it seemed to work.
After re-installing it in my Desire I was able to use the SD card both from the phone and recovery.
Thinking back, the problem arose when I flashed the EXT4 Align Flashable.zip as part of my planned move to InsertCoin CM7/A2SD+ STABLE. I'd flashed the EXT4 zip, but my SD card was not then visible to flash the ROM.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable might correct me, but I think I should've partitioned my SD card prior to flashing, but there was little info on this procedure.
Anyway, hopefully my fix may help someone else out there and I'm now running my planned aforementioned ROM.
Cheers,
Rob.
BluNoze said:
I'm having similar problems, SD card won't mount when in phone either in recovery or normal.
The SD card can be seen when in a USB reader in the PC
I've followed your instructions below and they exectued OK, but I still can't see the SD Card.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rob.
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[Q] Houston We Have a Problem ---Almost a Brick

Hi,
Over the last year I have been rooting and flashing roms on both the HTC DZ and the Aria and have not had any real troubles. However...
Recently picked up a used Desire A8181 that was flashed and had CM7 with 2.3.7 G installed with CWM backups but "desired" to flash a newer ROM with either 2.1+3 Sense or Sense 3.5.
So over the course of the last week, been looking at alpharev, hboots and all of the stuff one might need to flash such a ROM. Well today ran into a problem. I cannot tell you exactly what I did but where I am is not a good place.
So, need some help...
1. I can boot into recovery and currently have cwm-4.0.1.4 loaded
2. Using Fastboot I can flash an .img file either a new bravo_alphaspl.img or a recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.img file using AndroidFlasher.exe or using fastboot.exe
3. I cannot get
a. revolutionary.exe to see my phone, it states WAITING FOR DEVICE
b. abd shell or device or any adb command to work
4. I cannot get a stock OTA RUU file to flash and when I do, I get the errors shown in the attached png files.
5. I cannot access my SDCARD and get this error can't mount /SDCARD and along with this the error /dev/block/mmcblk0
I have
- stock hboot
- PVT3 S-OFF
- hboot 6.93.1002
So looking for some tips or trick to get my ROM reloaded which I suspect is related to corrupt storage on the phone?
Anyway, thoughts welcomed.
Thanks,
malloy0
UPDATE...I also reviewed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and many others, NONE addresses the issue of not being able to access the SDCARD. Also, I have 6 different SDCARDs and they all work fine in my DZ. I have also prepd and formated using Gparted and booted via Linux.
malloy0 said:
5. I cannot access my SDCARD and get this error can't mount /SDCARD and along with this the error /dev/block/mmcblk0
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SD card brick , u can look at this thread
these commands through adb should solve it (u said adb is not finding ur device,make sure u have the drivers installed). i had this sd card issue at least 3-4 times and these 2 lines always saved me
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
rayiskon said:
SD card brick , u can look at this thread
these commands through adb should solve it (u said adb is not finding ur device,make sure u have the drivers installed). i had this sd card issue at least 3-4 times and these 2 lines always saved me
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
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Thanks!! Will try in a few days. Busy for work traveling. Not much time to test.
Note on the adb drivers? I assume that given I connect my DZ and my WinPC and it works to access the DZ phone that these drivers mean they are installed? Using XP SP3. Also, I accessed my A8181 yesterday no trouble, so...assume the adb drivers are installed. I do note when the Desire is plugged in, sometimes get the request for the Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM (or something like this?) driver, but no luck finding this. So hit cancel and move on. Did not have this issue yesterday.
Ok...on the commands, will try more later.
RE: fastboot commands?
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
do I need to have these enableqxdm and rebootRUU files where I have the fastboot.exe file?
Spent way to much time searching and trying to fix myself, time to get some help.
Thanks again.
These are not files, they are just 2 commands to fix the usb brick. So you only need fastboot.exe.
To get the drivers you have to download the Android SDK, but I think that these drivers will work as well.
rayiskon said:
SD card brick , u can look at this thread
these commands through adb should solve it (u said adb is not finding ur device,make sure u have the drivers installed). i had this sd card issue at least 3-4 times and these 2 lines always saved me
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
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WOW! Amazing. I messed with this for hours and hours and did search after search, but did not locate the suggested fix above, but flashed and WAA-LAA!!
It worked like a charm.
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
Thank you!

[Q] USB BRICK -fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 failed what can I do?

Hi,
Iam trying to un USB Brick my sisters phone. I s-off ed with Revolutionary, installed clockwork recovery, and unzipped Superuser. But now the SD card (I've tried 3) aren't recognised at all.
All the instructions for USB UNbricking start with the command ' 'fastboot oem enableqdm 0' from the cmd (I have the android-sdk-windows/tools folder in the C directory;and just in case downloaded Android SDK - but that doesn't seem to do anything, just hang in cmd window when I launch it).
The thing is when I ever I type 'fastboot oem enableqxdm 0' I get "FAILED status malformed (1 bytes))". I also tried another fastboot command 'fastboot reboot-bootloader' but again got "FAILED.. status malformed (1 bytes))"
I just can't find a solution to this anywhere - if there is one and you know that'd be great, or a link would be excellent.
I'm going crazy here - what can I do to get the fastboot command to work - and then recoginse an sd card. Any ideas? And, my sister is supposed to gettinga train this evening! Doh, why did I try and root her phone...
Help please!
Chees
this
10chars
Ah, getting there...
So, got the fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 command to work.
Said OKAY.
Tried the fastboot oem eraseconfig
Said OKAY.
Went into Recovery, tried to flash update.zip; no sd card! Ah damn. (file shows up when exploring sd card on laptop)
So,, thought I try the CID version and I get this info:
INFODevice CID is Super CID
INFOCID is Super CID
INFOBackup CID is ORANG001
INFOSetting->cid::ORANG001
So, now I am confused, what the hell is my CID now?
And can I use the CID Gernerator as in that post.
If it helps, I could see the SD Card fine until I partitioned it (with Easeus - then wiped - then tied again with Mini Tool - both times the parition worked, everthing worked fine when exploring with laptop, just the Desire seemed to throw it and alas, no more sd card recognised - have tried a couple of others too.) Blimey, I've rooted, flashed, etc so many times without a glitch, just didn't think this would happen. Sod;s law it happens to my sister's phone when Itrying to help (she has no tech knowledge!)
SO, again, any help would be great.
Cheers
Just remembered you can try something else..
Code:
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem eraseconfig
(this has to enable SD.. if it doesn't then I dunno.. I mean 60% of the time it works every time)
Then flash RMD Recovery (link on my guide), and use the built in USB brick function.
If you're S-OFF flash the recovery.img via fastboot
If you're S-ON fakeflash the recovery.zip via recovery
Also in these situations, try to actually give us the errors recovery shows etc.
Alas, tried both of those commands and nothing happened (said OKAY both times, but when booted into Recovery it still did not recognise SD card, and when booted normally still no joy...)
What next, well I'll get a cheap 1Gb SD card straight out of the box and see if recognises it -not holding out much luck though. After that, try flashing the RMD Recovery via fastboot? and trying the USB Brick option (what do reckon?)
Oh well, we'll see. Would it help if I could flash a new ROM? Can this be done without an SD Card being recoginised? If so, which ROM, and how would I do it (from fastboot?) - had run Insert Coin 1.1.14 on another Desire (still running fine) - flash that even though Sd won' be paritioned, would ot work? Out there at the moment...
P

Desire not reading memory card

Ok my mates phone so not entirly sure what hes done.
But basically he has a boot loop
And the phone is not reading the sd card. Any sd card i try. (His sd card works fine in my Sensation).
So i can not reflash a new rom, as the phone wont read sd card.
I tried flashing a new recovery img, but phone wont read sd card.
Tried factory reset, but that fails because of the sd card problem.
So any help please.
OR I COULD JUST SELL HIM MY HERO
Is his phone s-off ?
If yes, do this in fastboot mode
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem erase config
Or you can flash the RMD Recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
It has a fix usb brick function.. try that.
Thanks
Yes his phone is s off.
Giving it a go now
Thanks again
ckpv5 said:
Is his phone s-off ?
If yes, do this in fastboot mode
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem erase config
Or you can flash the RMD Recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
It has a fix usb brick function.. try that.
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Ok sorry to be a pain in the arse.
But where do i type fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem erase config
I can put the phone in to fastboot start and back button. But my computer dose not reconise anything.
I have Android SDK.
And HTC Sync installed.
And how do i flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
When my phone wont read the sd card.
Sorry im a bit slow with computers, but should pick it up hopefully with a little help thanks.
Cheers Steve
big_sw2000 said:
Ok sorry to be a pain in the arse.
But where do i type fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot oem erase config
I can put the phone in to fastboot start and back button. But my computer dose not reconise anything.
I have Android SDK.
And HTC Sync installed.
And how do i flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
When my phone wont read the sd card.
Sorry im a bit slow with computers, but should pick it up hopefully with a little help thanks.
Cheers Steve
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take the card out and put it in the freezer for 12 hrs,then jump up and down on it several times ..
seriously though,remove the sd card and pop it in a card reader,and see if that picks it up.transfer the file or 4ext recovery both have usb brick.boot into recovery and see what happens,you should be able to get into recovery and flash a zip,if not its fastboot
markb63 said:
take the card out and put it in the freezer for 12 hrs,then jump up and down on it several times ..
seriously though,remove the sd card and pop it in a card reader,and see if that picks it up.transfer the file or 4ext recovery both have usb brick.boot into recovery and see what happens,you should be able to get into recovery and flash a zip,if not its fastboot
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Thanks i used the freezer method then cooked it gas mark 6 22 mins.
Its all working again.
Maybe i will charge him for my hard work, now i cant sell my Hero
Cheers Steve

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