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Just wondering I usually just use the stock rom....but what's the point if rooting so I want to start flashing some custom ones....just wondering with there being soo many different roms out there are there any requirements that u should be looking for b4 I go and just flash a rom such as screen type or kernal, or whether I'm using froyo or just if I'm on 2.2 or not as much detail would be helpful
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the requirements are mostly up to you.
since you are rooted you can flash any rom. All roms come with some type of kernel. if you are going to flash a custom kernel you will want to make sure it is ok for your rom. this mostly comes into play with 2.1 v 2.2 and asop v sense. these are not interchange able.
My recommendation is to figure out what you want (ie if you need 4g working or if you are looking for speed or battery power etc)
once you have this list of things you want to make sure you have start flashing roms and see if you like it. once you have it set up and play with it for a bit nand back up it and then try the next. that way if you want to go back you can easily do so.
Most people find a rom they love and tend to always go back to it even after trying other roms.
Here is a good list of the top 5 roms in my opinion ( no specific order)
Damage Control (Sense)
CyanogenMod 6 (ASOP - no 4g)
Fresh (SENSE)
Evio (SENSE)
Baked Snacks (SENSE)
For kernels The only thing you have to worry about for the most part is if the rom is ASOP (really only CM6) or sense (pretty much everything else) the 2 main sense kernels (netarchy and kingsx) both work for almost every sense rom and work with epson and nova screens
anyway good luck and happy rom hunting.

Thank you very informative, kudos too you boss....now the only other thing that concerned me is that from what I can understand when I use certain roms (or might be kernels) I was reading may downgrade my prl- along with similar issues , and also what I've gathered from that is with some/most its a ***** too update again so if there are any guidelines for these kind of"issues" I as well as I'm sure most others new to android would love some guidance.....ohh and one of viruses roms says "your warrantee is now void".......this doesn't do anything other than explain that if you leave your phone flashed with anything other than an official android software and haven't reset back too s-on....your warrantee is void by htc/sprint ...but going back from what I understand is easy as using unrevoked s-on and downloading and flashing the latest official 2.2......just tying up loose ends..... Thank you all.

when you unlock nand the engineer boot changes your PRI to 1.34. I believe someone has a method using unrevoked forever and a custom img to prevent this but i have not done a lot of research on it since i have been rooted since i got my phone.
There are several methods to get back to 1.4 pri. For many the PRI made no difference to performance in few areas people report increased speeds (they also noticed these speeds differences right after they rooted). The most common method is to dial ##768# and then reset yuor profile (you will need your MSL code) once thats done wipe dalvik and cache and then cross your fingers. the pri is sometimes downloaded and installed during the over the air activation.
For some it is quick and painless and others like me took over 100 tries over several weeks. I have no actual benefit that i can tell but i like knowing i have everything up to date.
As for the warranty issue you are correct. If you can boot your phone it is relatively easy to get back to an unrooted phone. If your phone is rooted they say your warranty is void. so just dont give the phone back to them with out unrooting. the method you listed above is correct.

I don't know how to give you credit....but thank you....how does this work: +10
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Last thing lol with themes dies the rom have to support them or if I'm on stock rooted rom can I install a theme and of not can I alter a stock rooted rom to be able to support them
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it depends on the theme. A majority of the themes for 2.2 will work on stock rooted as well as the sense 2.2 roms. If using and ASOP rom (ex CM 6) you will want to make sure the theme says it works with it.
some common ones for 2.2 sense are the Aloysius themes, riptide themes, and manups themes. there are lots of others depending on your taste so check them out.
if you are unsure i would nand back up before you apply the theme and if something looks funky once you install it just revert back.

Probably shouldn't have said "last question" but adb is giving me problems "error: device not found" and when I get it working I can't delete apps (sprint bloatware) it says "read only file". And I tried to install a theme but it just made my evo boot into what looked like an optical illusion....which was cool for a second...but compleatly un-functional....it was that revolutionary theme that was updated on 8/30 any suggestions?
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i mailed you a lot of the response to this before i saw you posted it as well. I'm not going to retype everything but i will update to let you know that i installed the theme on my phone (i currently have evio 1.2 rom) and it went as expected. I did not try installing all the custom options but the main theme itself installed and didnt come up with an optical illusion type effect so i am confident we can get this working once you get back to me on some of the information.

[Q] Need some help on first ROM flash

Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..

blakjak220 said:
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1. You will restore all your apps with TB
2. If you restore a backup you will have everything back to before you flashed a new rom.
3. I like using Fresh but its a sense rom but very great , but yea just look around and pick a rom. Experiment and good luck

thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?

blakjak220 said:
thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]

blakjak220 said:
thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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Its an apk file, so yes just back it up and your good , also fresh already has swype installed so your good to go.

jalexishg said:
I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]
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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA

blakjak220 said:
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1) Yes use TB to restore your apps. I recommend the paid version because it restores fast and automatically. I don't have to manually confirm each one like my cheap ass girlfriend...but she doesn't flash much. The poor Epic devs don't have froyo source.
2) Yes except for the radios. I nandroid just in case but I prefer reflashing what ever rom I'm going back to because nandroid restores just didn't run as well. But I have a new phone now so maybe that is changed.
3) Try MIUI its so fast that I underclock to 499 and it still feels like its full speed. It also has a built in theme manager. Also cyanogenmod has a lot of themes (turrrrible sentence structure). If you don't like aosp try myn's rom.
pm if you need any help

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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA
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Oh ok, Thanks a lot for the info.

i think most of your questions are answered. i'll just give you the usual must try rom list:
myn's warm twopointtwo: this is the complete theme rom. it is simply fantastic. really, it looks like a new phone. performance is great, added apps are good, tweaks are good, everything is good really. it is definetally a must try. do not miss this.
caulkin's evio 2: another absolute must try. the tweaks are what make this rom special. caulkin knows his code. this is the fastest sense rom i have ever tried. simply speedy, fantastic battery, great tweaks by caulkin (almost all other devs use his tweaks) and a slick, silvery theme that makes sense look not ugly. in my opinion, this is myns only rival rom. crazy good.
ava-froyo z series: very good rom. ava knows his code. he has really dived deep into the evo's system, and made tweaks to just about everything, even how the radios interact. this is the rom if you want pure tweakage. works for some, for others it does not work. i'd reccomend trying it for 2 or 3 days to see if it is fantastic, or really slow and bad battery.
mikfroyo: i personally dont like this but many do. very small, fast rom.
then you have the aosp roms. these are not based off evo code. built from the ground up, using only google's base code for android.
cyanogenmod: humungous project. works on many different phones. vanilla style (google) android. many tweaks that should have been in android in the first place. this is the ultimate pure android. it should be what google uses for their stock. the things these people think up, makes iphones jealous. too much to name.
miui: many people like this. i dont, but its all preferance. iphone-like rom without all the, um, iphone. looks and feels as slick, fast, and battery efficiant as the iphone 4 itself, but its android! i have no idea who these dudes are, but they must be programmers because they baisically rewrote android to look, feel, and act like a crossover, with many tweaks in between. fully customizabe, not at all vanilla android. a must try. you may not like it but then again you may love it.
again, try caulkins, myns, miui, and any more that you may want.
any more reccomendations to add to this list?

Thanks for the info guys, really helped me out...
I know to do a nandroid backup but I've read all kinds of different stuff about what to backup and what app to use to back it up... apps? texts/calls? data? ... I just dont want to miss anything...
So far I've backed up all my apps in Titanium, my texts and calls with two apps for that, my contacts to google and just in case I backed up my whole SD card to my desktop... Anything that y'all can think of that I may have missed?.. Again, thanks

Yea thanks for the list.
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I was expecting that.
Either way, you really went above and beyond on backing up. I wouldn't worry about much more. To do a nandroid backup, boot into recovery. Scroll to backup/restore. Choose NAND backup. Make sure system, data, boot, cache, radio, and wimax are all checked. Then hit backup. Wait 5 minutes. Done. This is all assuming you have the newest Amon-ra recovery. If not, go to rom manager and choose flash alternate recovery at the bottom. Amon recovery is highly recommended over clockwormod. Sadly clockwork mod is the default for unrevoked.
So after you backup, make sure you wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache twice each before flashing a rom. Good luck

'Preciate all the help.. I now have Myn's Warm2.2 runnin and everything works great..

Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.

Sacshop said:
Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.
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Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.

dkdude36 said:
Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.
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How's the beta version better, what's it got that the version that's included in Warm2.2 doesnt have?
By the way, just my opinion but I tried MIUI and really didnt care for it.. too... iPhoneISH I guess, didnt feel as intuitive as Sense to me... but then again I've never had an iPhone.. anyway, just my 0.2cents

the beta version is better bcuz it is newer. newest is best, as they say. the ota is 2.7.something and the beta is on 2.17 already. the ota one is included in myns, and all sense roms. i'm not into miui either, but many people are. hey, its worth the flash to try it.

Oh ok, well I'll just stick with the OTA version for now I guess if there arent any glaring differences... and yeah, it was worth a try.. I can see how that would be someone's cup of tea.. just not mine.

Yes I would do the same if I had backed it up despite it being a stock version it never let me down. Regardless, you have a choice, for the time being
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[Q] Best Customizations for Rooted Incredible with Stock Rom

I have an Incredible that I have rooted with unrevoked. I rooted it after I received the ota update with froyo and have done nothing else. I have yet to put a rom on since I really don't want to download and install all of my apps again and tweak my preferences. All that being said I want to do some things to customize my phone and have read about other ways to customize with roms, what things am I able to do? Here are some of the things I would love to be able to do to my phone:
Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something?
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.

Android314 said:
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Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
This is easiest to do using CM6/7 and applying a theme pack
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something
> Not many customizations have been made to the HTC lockscreen. You can find a few metamorphs for VANILLA lockscreens to make it look like the Droid 2 / R2D2
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
> I use the Galaxy S theme for CM6, this did a pretty good job of the blue theme
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.
Minimalistic Text Widget & Launcher Pro are your friends
I also LOVE sonnysekhon's themes for CM7.
Good luck, have fun, nandroid, rinse, repeat
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Forgot, you aren't deodexed.... you really need a custom rom to be able to theme. If you want a stock sense you should look into virtuous... its pretty much stock, looks stock but is still custom. Then you can flash themes on it.....

A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?

Try flashing virtuous without wiping data, just wipe caches. like I said before, that's pretty much a stock sense rom. You should be ok and not need to re set up your stuff. If not, restore nandroid.
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Android314 said:
A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?
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If your main concern about trying out ROM's is having to re-download all of your apps, I have an app for that
Titanium Backup
Super simple. It lets you back up the apps you downloaded. Here's what you do:
1. Download Titanium Backup from the market
2. Individually back up your apps using Ti - WARNING! DO NOT BACK UP SYSTEM DATA. Also don't back up Gmail/Maps/anything stock that's going to be in the new ROM. Titanium shows items in red that you shouldn't back up, so it shouldn't be too hard. Rule of thumb: if you downloaded it yourself, back it up, if not, stay away
3. Download your new ROM and put it on your SD card
4. Wipe
5. Flash new ROM - FYI CM7 stands for "CyanogenMod 7" which is a really popular AOSP ROM
6. Sign in with your Google account/Facebook/etc.
7. Download Titanium backup > Batch > Restore apps
You're going to have to click "Install" for every app you backed up if you've got the free version, the paid one does it for you.
You're also going to have to do your other tweaks (ringtones, autorotate, etc.) manually as Ti can't do that, but I think it's well worth the initial time investment to get a better/faster/more customizable ROM
TL;DR: Titanium Backup backs up your apps. If you want customization, you need a new ROM. If you want Sense, SkyRaider 3.5 or Incredibly Re-engineered 2.3.1 is best for customization (both have blue themes available), but Virtuous gives you the most "stock" feel. If you want AOSP, can't do much better than CyanogenMod7 for theming
EDIT: In response to your original post...
Colored Notifications are only going to work on a deodexed ROM (aka Virtuous/SkyRaider) - there is a rooted/deodexed stock ROM floating around that rmk40 posted (he also created Virtuous)
WidgetLocker is a paid app that can change your lockscreen - and here's a really popular app on modding the stock options it gives to your liking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825553

Cyanogenmod7 or CM7 is basically one of the most badass roms available, it's not only the newest of the cyanogenmod series but it's also built off of android 2.3 Gingerbread, so no having to wait for the actual legit GB release like everyone that's not rooted. If you want to see it in action look for it on youtube, otherwise to learn about it go to cyanogenmod.com or cyanogenmod.com/forums, everyone there is very helpful. I am running the RC1 of CM7, there is a few nightly builds after that so far but I'm just gonna stick with the first release canidate until RC2 hits.

I'd say the main reason I rooted was to try out different ROMs. I know you said you want to leave all your preferences and apps untouched, but I quickly got over that. I got all my contacts organized in GMail so that they sync every time I flash a new ROM. Each ROM has different preferences to play around with. For apps, I realized what I needed to do was just choose a few really important ones so I wouldn't have to spend all day setting up my apps for each new ROM.
I'd recommend doing a nandroid backup in recovery and trying out a few different ROMs. Try MIUI and Cyanogenmod 7, they're great. When your done you can restore your nandroid backup and get back to exactly where you are right now.
If you decide you want to stick with a new ROM, you can use Titanium Backup to restore your important app data, like someone else pointed out.
Once you're rooted there is a whole new world of opportunities...have fun!

Ok you guy's have got me very interested now. I think I want to move forward now! That cm7 looks great and I'd love to move to gingerbread. I was curious since this is the nightly beta release if I could later get the updates without flashing a rom again and restoring my apps. I had also heard I would have to flash more files like the radio after the install too. I'll have to read more on this.

Use Titanium Backup for all your apps and their data where you can put them all back on your new ROM.
You can do a full backup via Clock Works so if you don't like the new ROM or don't want to deal with any more of this new stuff then you can revert exactly to where you were before.
> For the lockscreen you can uninstall the lockscreen and then the default android one will be there.
To change the main look and feel you can try Launcher Pro from the market. It's pretty sweet. I use it with my custom ROM just because I love the cube transition and how you can hide a lot of the useless apps in the app drawer.

If you dont want to load a custom rom but would like to just theme there is a deodexed completely stock rom around here that will give you that option. All you need to do is flash in recovery and since you are going from a stock rom to another stock rom you do not need to wipe/clear anything so all of your apps and settings will remain intact.

you can consider just flashing skyraiders 3.5 and then not doing anything fancy. It's very close to stock with little improvements around so you might find that to be a good start.

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions guys. For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it. I am looking at LauncherPro now and thinking of checking out ADW. I've watched some different videos on both, which do you guys think is better?
I also did one mod I'm happy about, I changed the market app to the themed "Black Market" with the different icon and appearance. I think I am going to look for some transparent apps next to do something different. I with there was more I could do with my stock rom, it sucks not being deodexed. Anything else worthwhile to look into?

Android314 said:
For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it.
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CM7 is incredibly stable for only being at RC1....
I use it everyday now (Occasionally flashing something for fun) and I have NO problems with it.
If you flash CM7 RC1 you won't regret it. Just my two cents.

How long would anyone guess the final release will take? I think I am just going to keep an eye on it's progress and eventually switch. While it may be working well now I just feel uneasy about flashing that rom now, even though I can restore a backup. I'm having some fun now customizing my phone with Launcher Pro. I certainly like the customizable dock over the Sense dock. I'm trying to search for mods I can do with my non-deodexed rom but not too much luck. Thanks for the thoughts everyone!

I used to be like you so just as some insight from someone who remembers being where you are. Don't worry about cm7 rc1 or the newest nighlys, they're very stable. Although for a stock sense experience, one fun rom I've found to be fun and really have me flashing back and forth with cm7 is incredibly re engineered. With Chad's kernel its super fast, battery efficient and stable.
So ymmv but cm rc's are generally pretty stable. And incredibly re engineered is also a great choice
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ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!

Azag Thoth said:
ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!
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Check out the rooting guide here http://dimedroid.blogspot.com, some great info on backup & restore procedures
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[Q] Redemption 2.4 Questions

I've been on 2.3 for a few months and I'm very happy with it. Very stable. Currently using the stock kernel.
1. I'm using Clockwork 2.5.1.2. Do I need to update it before flashing 2.4? I looked at his requirements but it did not list that. It said it would work with the newer Clockwork.
2. I don't understand the full impact of running the SENSE (LESS) Removal Script. I currently use some of the HTC programs (like their SYNC for Outlook). I assume if I run that script, those kind of "sense" things will be removed.
3. Is there any huge advantage to upgrading to 2.4? I looked thru the changes and the only one I'd really be interested in is using Lou's #4 kernel. Is there something else I'm missing here?
And Lou if you are reading this.....thanks for all your hard work!

rampart51 said:
I've been on 2.3 for a few months and I'm very happy with it. Very stable. Currently using the stock kernel.
1. I'm using Clockwork 2.5.1.2. Do I need to update it before flashing 2.4? I looked at his requirements but it did not list that. It said it would work with the newer Clockwork.
2. I don't understand the full impact of running the SENSE (LESS) Removal Script. I currently use some of the HTC programs (like their SYNC for Outlook). I assume if I run that script, those kind of "sense" things will be removed.
3. Is there any huge advantage to upgrading to 2.4? I looked thru the changes and the only one I'd really be interested in is using Lou's #4 kernel. Is there something else I'm missing here?
And Lou if you are reading this.....thanks for all your hard work!
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1. I would upgrade Clockwork anyway, 3.0.0.8 is stable and working. 3.0.0.5 was the problem build that everyone was having problems with. Everything now is pretty much being made to flash with CW3. I don't believe that you HAVE to update, but at least now you can feel confident about doing so.
2. Yes If you run that script anything that is run off of rosie (sense) won't be accessible anymore.
3. It's not a huge update, when its 3.0 that will be a big update. when the version # hasn't increased much it is usually a bug fix or other small change release. You don't have to upgrade, unless you are like the rest of us who have to flash something at least once a day to feel fulfilled

[Q] HELP!!! how to get the new evo update with root...COMPLETE noob here guys

hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting

While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned

Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys

dmccoy516 said:
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.

Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
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