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So yeah, this is post number 2,309 made by some guy who found all these instructions way too confusing.
I'm trying to install Baked Snack on my EVO, and I started out by using SimpleRoot to root my device, followed all the steps succesfully, and then I basically GUESSED (cause nobody says it outright) to go to EXTRA and FLASH RECOVERY, chose Clockwork, and then chose install ZIP from SD Card, picked out the BakedSnack zip file from my sd card, and the installation began, seemed to even work successfully, and even booted up (I LOVE that PC-like boot screen), gets to the point where it says ANDROID in ascii, and then it reboots... this cycle goes on forever.
anything I missed here?
I would start by doing a full wipe (options are in recovery), if that doesn't work reflash the rom.
You might also look at the topic titled 'How to start over: Fully rooted stock 1.47.651.1 in one shot (no adb!)' (Sorry I'm a new user so it won't let me post links) that way your at a good starting point to start playing with things.
Matt
When you went into recovery did you wipe the caches? Also...how long is "forever" ? Some initial boots may take a while (i.e. near 5min)...
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Best advice I can give is to root using roots method or the start over with the ota method.
Make sure you are nand unlocked also. Thats usually the source of all boot loops and I ain't talking cereal either.
Thanks
Thanks for the quick reply guys, I actually manage to go back to clockwork and delete all the cache, managed to finally boot up and it even seems to work well,
but I'm a little surprised, I thought this ROM was 2.2! I can't believe I did all this and I'm still at 2.1!
I WANT FROYO, whats the point?!
try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.
Cyanogen is probably the best Froyo at the moment, but that's just my opinion. Remember though, there is no HTC Sense, and never will be, in a Cyanogenmod, so if you want the Sense interface, pass on Cyan, and go for AVA Froyo
howdyace said:
try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.
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Lol, stole my thunder, and said it backasswerdz....lol....
Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.
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Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.
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How so? Never noticed anything of the such
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How so? Never noticed anything of the such
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Step 1: Hold hand out with palm facing up.
Step 2: Proceed to lower your face down into your open palm.
Step 3: Facepalm.
which recovery and how are you updating the rom?
Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)
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Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)
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You will have to check with each rom for the better battery life, that deals more with lowering voltage. Apps and tethering should work just the same.
Only the 2.1 roms have all the functionality atm, hence why they are still popular. Once HTC releases their Evo flavored Froyo you can expect better roms.
Just wondering I usually just use the stock rom....but what's the point if rooting so I want to start flashing some custom ones....just wondering with there being soo many different roms out there are there any requirements that u should be looking for b4 I go and just flash a rom such as screen type or kernal, or whether I'm using froyo or just if I'm on 2.2 or not as much detail would be helpful
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the requirements are mostly up to you.
since you are rooted you can flash any rom. All roms come with some type of kernel. if you are going to flash a custom kernel you will want to make sure it is ok for your rom. this mostly comes into play with 2.1 v 2.2 and asop v sense. these are not interchange able.
My recommendation is to figure out what you want (ie if you need 4g working or if you are looking for speed or battery power etc)
once you have this list of things you want to make sure you have start flashing roms and see if you like it. once you have it set up and play with it for a bit nand back up it and then try the next. that way if you want to go back you can easily do so.
Most people find a rom they love and tend to always go back to it even after trying other roms.
Here is a good list of the top 5 roms in my opinion ( no specific order)
Damage Control (Sense)
CyanogenMod 6 (ASOP - no 4g)
Fresh (SENSE)
Evio (SENSE)
Baked Snacks (SENSE)
For kernels The only thing you have to worry about for the most part is if the rom is ASOP (really only CM6) or sense (pretty much everything else) the 2 main sense kernels (netarchy and kingsx) both work for almost every sense rom and work with epson and nova screens
anyway good luck and happy rom hunting.
Thank you very informative, kudos too you boss....now the only other thing that concerned me is that from what I can understand when I use certain roms (or might be kernels) I was reading may downgrade my prl- along with similar issues , and also what I've gathered from that is with some/most its a ***** too update again so if there are any guidelines for these kind of"issues" I as well as I'm sure most others new to android would love some guidance.....ohh and one of viruses roms says "your warrantee is now void".......this doesn't do anything other than explain that if you leave your phone flashed with anything other than an official android software and haven't reset back too s-on....your warrantee is void by htc/sprint ...but going back from what I understand is easy as using unrevoked s-on and downloading and flashing the latest official 2.2......just tying up loose ends..... Thank you all.
when you unlock nand the engineer boot changes your PRI to 1.34. I believe someone has a method using unrevoked forever and a custom img to prevent this but i have not done a lot of research on it since i have been rooted since i got my phone.
There are several methods to get back to 1.4 pri. For many the PRI made no difference to performance in few areas people report increased speeds (they also noticed these speeds differences right after they rooted). The most common method is to dial ##768# and then reset yuor profile (you will need your MSL code) once thats done wipe dalvik and cache and then cross your fingers. the pri is sometimes downloaded and installed during the over the air activation.
For some it is quick and painless and others like me took over 100 tries over several weeks. I have no actual benefit that i can tell but i like knowing i have everything up to date.
As for the warranty issue you are correct. If you can boot your phone it is relatively easy to get back to an unrooted phone. If your phone is rooted they say your warranty is void. so just dont give the phone back to them with out unrooting. the method you listed above is correct.
I don't know how to give you credit....but thank you....how does this work: +10
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Last thing lol with themes dies the rom have to support them or if I'm on stock rooted rom can I install a theme and of not can I alter a stock rooted rom to be able to support them
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it depends on the theme. A majority of the themes for 2.2 will work on stock rooted as well as the sense 2.2 roms. If using and ASOP rom (ex CM 6) you will want to make sure the theme says it works with it.
some common ones for 2.2 sense are the Aloysius themes, riptide themes, and manups themes. there are lots of others depending on your taste so check them out.
if you are unsure i would nand back up before you apply the theme and if something looks funky once you install it just revert back.
Probably shouldn't have said "last question" but adb is giving me problems "error: device not found" and when I get it working I can't delete apps (sprint bloatware) it says "read only file". And I tried to install a theme but it just made my evo boot into what looked like an optical illusion....which was cool for a second...but compleatly un-functional....it was that revolutionary theme that was updated on 8/30 any suggestions?
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i mailed you a lot of the response to this before i saw you posted it as well. I'm not going to retype everything but i will update to let you know that i installed the theme on my phone (i currently have evio 1.2 rom) and it went as expected. I did not try installing all the custom options but the main theme itself installed and didnt come up with an optical illusion type effect so i am confident we can get this working once you get back to me on some of the information.
i have never installed any custom rom yet.. i just saw cyanogenmod 7 was released and stable... heard it's the best rom out there... but is it worth installing it over htc desire's stock rom? i am starting to have some performance issues as i haev installed tons of apps on my desire.. will the performance be better on cyanogenmod 7?
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i have never installed any custom rom yet.. i just saw cyanogenmod 7 was released and stable... heard it's the best rom out there... but is it worth installing it over htc desire's stock rom? i am starting to have some performance issues as i haev installed tons of apps on my desire.. will the performance be better on cyanogenmod 7?
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yes, it is worth it but it does not have sense so if you are a fan of it you might want to flash leedroid
Define "performance".... apps opening faster? yes. Keep in mind, you will have a new launcher.
Battery life? Definately. I have about a 90% battery life improvement over my stock Desire ROM. Keep in mind, my phone is an east european model, compared to branded phones in the US, which means I didn't get bloatware installed.
Also, when you upgrade to CyanogenMod7, you can install setcpu, and overclock your processor. In addition, I run profiles to throttle back the processor speed if the battery reaches a certain percentage.
I can run, normal usage (without films) at least 2 days without recharge.
I run their RC3, just can't seem to think why I should update to their "stable" version. The only noticable thing I see, is that screen brightness doesn't seem to hold (get brighter). But a tiny annoyance.
Also, I would suggest updating the normal way to 2.29 first. I'm not an android programmer by any means, but have heard it also flashes the radio version,which can be important when flashing custom ROMs.
CyanogenMod has put tons of work into their ROM. Probably more than anybody out there. You won't be dissappointed.
There are a couple of other good ROMs out there as well. Oxygen, Gingervillian, and Muiu (spelling). But I only read about them.
If you have any problems, please ask BEFORE you brick your phone.
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yes, it is worth it but it does not have sense so if you are a fan of it you might want to flash leedroid
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Yeah, forgot about sense, but really, I don't see much of a difference between running stock HTC and CyanogenMod.
Or maybe I am ignorant (staring at too many posts for too many days)
Sense has left me......
i am tempted for the battery life... maybe i will flash it tomorrow... it will be my first flash so... thinking well before doing it.. lol ... how's phone quality? are stuff like camera (recording and photo) improved?
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i am tempted for the battery life... maybe i will flash it tomorrow... it will be my first flash so... thinking well before doing it.. lol ... how's phone quality? are stuff like camera (recording and photo) improved?
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They added some options for video, mostly effects. I like the B/W for video. Camera quality is good. No difference from stock as far as I can see.
A lot more control as far as how your phone behaves (animations, etc). In fact, more options than I need.
You will miss some of the stock widgets though. And will have to get from the market.
Currently, I'm in the process of extracting the APK's from HTC's zip (between extreme beer sessions), and will see if they work correctly. They had a good Office app. and the weather widget.
If you do flash, you will need to also get the flash file for google apps and flash both at the same time. Then, afterwords, you can go to the market again, and get what you need.
Ohhhhh.... root your phone first.
already rooted my phone.. download rom manager from market.. probably will be using it to install cm7
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already rooted my phone.. download rom manager from market.. probably will be using it to install cm7
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I prefer to install it the old fashioned way, rather than Rom Manager. Although it's nice to flash the clockwork recovery.
I copy it to the root, goto hboot, recovery, wipe all caches, then run both updates. Cyan and googleapps
Remember, to a recovery backup on your phone, BEFORE flashing any new ROM.
They have TONS of instructions here.
Good luck.
i am going to follow this guide
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide
is it for cyanogenmod 6 or is it also valid for cm7?
installed cm7 finally.. got some issues but finally it's fine... only thing i couldn't install yet is app2sd... ext formatting done through rom manager doesn't seem to work... and i missed installation of the gmail app (i installed google addons for cm7) and when i started the phone, it asked whether to download and install gmail app.. i skipped thinking i would be able to install it later or recover it from my titanium backup...
i could not install it later.... and i messed up with my backup (i forgot to copy the license file...darn... i only copied the titanium backup folder thinking everything was there)..
first impressions.. i miss htc sense... not a big fan of adw launcher and most widgets not as good as htc sense ones... battery does not seem to be better.. is actually a buit worse than the stock rom (which was good imo)... maybe i need to re-calibrate my battery?
haven't installed a lot of apps yet so can't evaluate performance for now (performance was good on stock rom until i installed lots of apps and moved them to sd)... cm7 is more ugly than stock rom imo. will continue to use it and get more used to it... but overall.. i am missing stock rom... ( a lot of features seem missing or need fixing in cm7)
I am wanting to put a new ROM on my new EVO. I got it from sprint the other day and want all its bloatware off of it. I am new to this but I have dont similar things in the past.
Reasons I want to ROOT and flash:
Get rid of sprint bloatware
Unlock Wi-Fi tethering ability
Get best and most optimized version of android
Now here is where I need your help...I dont really know which rom to get. Is the 2.3 Gingerbread ROM work with no bugs? I dont want to be a buggy beta tester I want something solid but something better than what I have.
Here is my phone information:
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
htc-kernel(at)and18-2#15
Build Number
3.70.651.1 CL294884
Software Number
3.70.651.1
Browser Version
Webkit 3.1
PRI version
1.90_03
PRL Version 6067
I dont know what some of it means but if you could tell me what I should update and give me a little information on how to do it. I dont know what baseband/radio does. I dont have the latest version should I get it?
Mainly I want help on choosing a ROM to flash to. Gingerbread would be nice but if there isnt a stable version just link me to a better ROM of 2.2 to flash to. I just want rid of all this bloatware and I want to be able to theater.
Thanks for the help =)
try vaelpak 3.2, i've been using it for a while now and love it its like a mix of sense roms with asop roms but with sense base so everything works flawlesly
If your looking for a good rom that is stable and everything works. I would strongly recommend Vaelpak 3.2 RC2. I have been running this rom for about 2 months straight, well it started as RC1. Everything works and will do what you asked above. The software is still 2.2, mainly because Jim is waiting for the final versos of 3.2 to be released. Yes I have had a few minor issues, more like minor annoyance. But when one comes up I get on there forum and Jim always seems to be able to fix the issue.
Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo
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Ok so just to make things clear with me before I do any of this all I have to do is unlock my phone for root access, backup my current phone image, and flash to this one right?
Do I have to update radio or anything first?
Also I will be able to get back to my phones default out of the box setting if I need to right?
Any other ROM recomendations or is VaelPak where it is at? How is CyanogenMod-7? It runs 2.3....
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I just updated to cynogen mod
7.0.3.1 using rom manager.... its great but I can't use my gmail app or my market ....and my contacts are gone....only the Facebook contacts are there....wat am I supposed to do.....really need help
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Go to the dev section and find the CM thread. You need to flash the "gapps" (google apps) in order to get the google mail, market, re-sync contacts,etc. Not sure if you can do that thru rom manager, I've never used it.
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There are many, many roms out there. It just depends on the what you are looking for. As for me I like having a rom that is not only stable for everyday use, but also having everything work properly. Not all roms are created equal and will vary in features. Like I stated before I love using vaelpak, but other people will swear by different roms. As for cm7, I have used it. But it just wasn't for me and screwed with my phone. As for the rooting process I would recommend Unrevoked. Very quick and simple. Also always do backups, even after rooting your phone. The other nice thing about Vaelpak over cm7, not trying to bash cm7 or its developers. But with Vaelpak there is a thing under settings were all the new radios and kernals are listed. Someone please correct me if i am wrong, with cm7 you have to flash back to a "sense" rom to update the radios. And if you cant tell I am very bias with Vaelpak, I have tryed others but they simply dont compair.
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Go to the dev section and find the CM thread. You need to flash the "gapps" (google apps) in order to get the google mail, market, re-sync contacts,etc. Not sure if you can do that thru rom manager, I've never used it.
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If I recall you need to go into recovery and flash it
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If I recall you need to go into recovery and flash it
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Yea I believe so. Hope he knows how to do that. Lol.
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What exactly is the radios? I think I have the second to latest version (see above)
What does an updated radio do?
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What exactly is the radios? I think I have the second to latest version (see above)
What does an updated radio do?
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Chances are if you just got the phone it should be current or you can go under settings> system updates and update your firmware(wouldn't recommend if you plan on rooting),profile, PRL ans the software. The radios are what allows you to have service. Once again someone correct me if I am wrong.
With certain Roms (Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo comes to mind) you will need to make sure you have the latest everything. There's a link in the thread for the rom to a flashable zip - you flash this through recovery as you would a rom, kernel, etc. Read the first few posts in the thread for a rom you're going to flash. You don't want to miss something.
I flash everything manually through recovery (Amon Ra specifically, but which you use is entirely your preference) to minimize error & ensure everything that I want to wipe is wiped - properly. If you feel more comfortable with Rom Manager, there's nothing wrong with that. I recommend at least learning how to do it all manually in case you're ever in a bind.
As far as roms go - try them out... all of them. Or at least the ones that fit your needs. For stable and close to stock I recommend Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo. Warm Z is also nice, with a newer version of Sense. Vaelpak is a really great rom if you want certain Sense apps (like the dialer) but without the Sense launcher/additional useless crap. CM7 is a great 2.3 AOSP rom. It's actually stable now, but you might need to do the GPS fix if you have issues with the GPS. MIUI is another 2.3 AOSP rom, it's very polished but no 4G. It's a lot different than CM7 or any other rom. There are some "GingerSense" roms out now, but from what I've heard they're not stable at this point.
Three random tips:
1) Do not pull the battery during a radio update. After you reboot you'll see a black screen with a downwards arrow or an Android in a box. Just wait for it to finish. If you freak and pull the battery, your phone is most likely dead forever.
2) Buy Titanium Backup Pro and Root Explorer. Two most useful apps I've paid for. With either of these apps you can remove any unwanted apps (or with TB, freeze them). So if a rom comes with apps you don't want, you can easily get rid of them.
3) Don't base anything on quadrant scores, they're pretty much useless. Even if a rom puts you below average, ignore it as long as you're happy with your phone.
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Ok so just to make things clear with me before I do any of this all I have to do is unlock my phone for root access, backup my current phone image, and flash to this one right?
Do I have to update radio or anything first?
Also I will be able to get back to my phones default out of the box setting if I need to right?
Any other ROM recomendations or is VaelPak where it is at? How is CyanogenMod-7? It runs 2.3....
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Cyanogen has really disappointed me. I was running mod 6 on my hero for a long time with no problems, then mod 6 on my evo with no problems. I installed mod 7 on my evo about a month ago and it has already basically crapped out on me twice. Just becoming really slow and everything force closing or just giving me a black screen when I try to open the app. Then I restore it back to right when I flashed it, and it works great for a couple weeks. I would suggest trying the vaelpak 3.2. I have no idea how it is, but I am gonna flash it right now and see how it is during the day tomorrow.
Try end of days or destroyer v2 it
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So, I have been rooted for ages.
I liked rooting because it was simple to follow the instructions on what to do (it was just like installing any old application on a PC if I remember). I haven't exactly explored the full features of rooting as I am just an average user but now I am finding I want more apps than the phone will allow, so it's time to get a new ROM.
Here's Some Information:
HTC Desire - Unbranded (UK)
Rooted with Clockwork Mod
S-Off Status: Don't know
Android: 2.2
Software: 2.29.405.5
Why Do I Want to Get a New ROM?
Space issues really.
I am nearly constantly warned these days about low space. I've been running with about 30Mb to spare, but now when I update various apps, it moans at me. It also means I am limited to what I can now install, even though I may only use the app once every few months.
My battery life is good (well, 2-3 days) and everything else is fine, it's just the space issue that I need to solve.
What ROM's Have I Looked At?
Starburst:
Seems to be to be the one I need, although I perhaps am being narrow minded with the whole "I want sense" and "I need the DATA2SD" thing.
CyanogenMod:
Seems nice, but no Sense? Maybe I can pull away from Sense as really I only use the clock/weather, the larger weather, calendar, a little bit FriendStream, but I am happy without FriendStream and HTC Peep I could install by itself or go without it (I can just text Twitter). There are many calendar apps and again, it might be possible to install it as a stand alone app, or I might find one that is simply better.
Someone else suggested LeeDroid which I've heard a lot about too, although I haven't really looked into it.
So, I have a few questions now:
Should I be looking to upgrade to Gingerbread?
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
Is there a ROM that has the DATA2SD with Sense 3.5?
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
I think that's it.
I don't really want to be installing one ROM, then deciding it's rubbish so installing another, then another, I'd just like an informed view. I think my main aim is ease of install. I'm not very confident with adb, although I can obviously follow "type this and that" step by step guides.
If anyone has any other suggestions then that would be great.
Thanks
I don't know all the answers, but I'll try to answer some. I had the same problem as you did.
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
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I found that Sense 3.0, Sense 2.1+3.0 hybrids were very slow(I guess this applies for Sense 3.5 since it's newer than 3.0)
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
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Yes.
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
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Most Sense ROMs are pretty stripped of crap like that. However if you do have it you can uninstall it afterwards.
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
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Do a backup before flashing a new ROM! That way you will have your old ROM. However I'm not sure about how to unroot, but it is possible.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
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Yes.
P.S. My first try was CyanongenMod, and I haven't regretted it since. Almost every Sense app/widget can be replaced by apps in the market.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Man, I thought this forum was busy and there'd be loads of recommendations.
Seems not :/
I believe Sense 3.0 is good enough since Sense 3.5 ROM is not yet stable.
Cool3d / Aurora has good performance. But you need to S-OFF your phone first. It's very important before jumping into ROM that requires ext4 and CM7