[Q] Advice on Installing a New ROM - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I have been rooted for ages.
I liked rooting because it was simple to follow the instructions on what to do (it was just like installing any old application on a PC if I remember). I haven't exactly explored the full features of rooting as I am just an average user but now I am finding I want more apps than the phone will allow, so it's time to get a new ROM.
Here's Some Information:
HTC Desire - Unbranded (UK)
Rooted with Clockwork Mod
S-Off Status: Don't know
Android: 2.2
Software: 2.29.405.5
Why Do I Want to Get a New ROM?
Space issues really.
I am nearly constantly warned these days about low space. I've been running with about 30Mb to spare, but now when I update various apps, it moans at me. It also means I am limited to what I can now install, even though I may only use the app once every few months.
My battery life is good (well, 2-3 days) and everything else is fine, it's just the space issue that I need to solve.
What ROM's Have I Looked At?
Starburst:
Seems to be to be the one I need, although I perhaps am being narrow minded with the whole "I want sense" and "I need the DATA2SD" thing.
CyanogenMod:
Seems nice, but no Sense? Maybe I can pull away from Sense as really I only use the clock/weather, the larger weather, calendar, a little bit FriendStream, but I am happy without FriendStream and HTC Peep I could install by itself or go without it (I can just text Twitter). There are many calendar apps and again, it might be possible to install it as a stand alone app, or I might find one that is simply better.
Someone else suggested LeeDroid which I've heard a lot about too, although I haven't really looked into it.
So, I have a few questions now:
Should I be looking to upgrade to Gingerbread?
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
Is there a ROM that has the DATA2SD with Sense 3.5?
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
I think that's it.
I don't really want to be installing one ROM, then deciding it's rubbish so installing another, then another, I'd just like an informed view. I think my main aim is ease of install. I'm not very confident with adb, although I can obviously follow "type this and that" step by step guides.
If anyone has any other suggestions then that would be great.
Thanks

I don't know all the answers, but I'll try to answer some. I had the same problem as you did.
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
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I found that Sense 3.0, Sense 2.1+3.0 hybrids were very slow(I guess this applies for Sense 3.5 since it's newer than 3.0)
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
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Yes.
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
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Most Sense ROMs are pretty stripped of crap like that. However if you do have it you can uninstall it afterwards.
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
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Do a backup before flashing a new ROM! That way you will have your old ROM. However I'm not sure about how to unroot, but it is possible.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
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Yes.
P.S. My first try was CyanongenMod, and I haven't regretted it since. Almost every Sense app/widget can be replaced by apps in the market.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Man, I thought this forum was busy and there'd be loads of recommendations.
Seems not :/

I believe Sense 3.0 is good enough since Sense 3.5 ROM is not yet stable.
Cool3d / Aurora has good performance. But you need to S-OFF your phone first. It's very important before jumping into ROM that requires ext4 and CM7

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So, what's the most noob friendly froyo rom for the desire?

with the sense stuff i use having an alternative now, what would be the most stable 2.2 release recommended for a rooting/phone flashing virgin?
Or is it better to wait for that cyanogenmod one to come out?
ta all.
p,s i would like to use my camcorder on my phone
I could be wrong but I don't think camcorder works on any 2.2 rom for desire.
That aside, don't worry about losing sense. It really isn't as big a deal as you'd imagine.
For me the only downside (at least on the few ROMS I've tried) is that you seem to lose HTC sync functionality. I must admit syncing with Outlook is my fave option. With 2.2 roms I've had to go to the trouble of syncing contacts etc with GMAIL then syncing back to the phone that way. It's become a bit ugly and I must say a bit of an irritation. HTC favourites aren't supported but Android Starred is now. It was painless coming from WinMob with Sense to 2.1 with Sense. Android 2.2 has been a little harder but nothing you can't navigate if you have the mind.
danbst said:
I could be wrong but I don't think camcorder works on any 2.2 rom for desire.
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hmm, i was under the impression that 1 or 2 did.
danbst said:
That aside, don't worry about losing sense. It really isn't as big a deal as you'd imagine.
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yeah, pure messenger seems to replace a few, and beautiful widgets replaces most of the rest iirc. launcher pro does the trick also.
danbst said:
For me the only downside (at least on the few ROMS I've tried) is that you seem to lose HTC sync functionality. I must admit syncing with Outlook is my fave option. With 2.2 roms I've had to go to the trouble of syncing contacts etc with GMAIL then syncing back to the phone that way. It's become a bit ugly and I must say a bit of an irritation. HTC favourites aren't supported but Android Starred is now. It was painless coming from WinMob with Sense to 2.1 with Sense. Android 2.2 has been a little harder but nothing you can't navigate if you have the mind.
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don't think i'll mind it much if i get apps2sd. i'm constantly finding nice useful new apps and games i want and my damn phone always has that 'running low on space' icon on it.
The video recording doesn't work on any 2.2 froyo rom. This requires a new radio (baseband) from HTC.
HTC Sync won't work untill HTC release their official rom.
As far as noob friendly goes... The actual rooting process is the same no matter what rom you decide to eventually install. Once rooted you can download rom manager and use that to chop and change between roms.
I'd say you should try a few roms that are posted in the dev section and decide for yourself which you like. They are currently almost all identicle. The only differences are some have theming, and some have apps added/removed. There are 2 main devs, paul obrien, and richardtrip. All the froyo roms are based on their work.
I was reading that CyanogenMod6 will have video recording in it once its released.
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I was reading that CyanogenMod6 will have video recording in it once its released.
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Where did you read that?
in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709161
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in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709161
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I was following that thread and don't recall anything saying that 6 would have the video recording. I know they had it working in 5.0.8 but that was a 2.1 based rom. If they get it working, then happy days.
ok reading it again, does not mention that 100% will be fixed.
This is one of the posts
"I am shure CyanogenMod 6 will have all those echo and video problems fixed.
Beno already fixed videorecording on 5.0.8 AFAIK... but now 6.0 has priority!"
I am new to all this so I might have understood wrongly, but I think CyanogenMod 6 will be the first ROM I will try to install on my device
hmm, well, here's hoping it comes out soon. don't want to flash too often.
i'm debating just going for a 2.1 rom with a2sd since space is my pet peeve.
then in a few weeks go for the (hopefully) fixed 2.2?
is there any stable 2.1 rom with a2sd and camcorder working? a2sd is the main reason I want to flash
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is there any stable 2.1 rom with a2sd and camcorder working? a2sd is the main reason I want to flash
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Have a look in the dev section, at Pays Rocksolid, and Bravesoul roms.
cheers mate. Will do.
A noob question, I have a 4G card at the moment and ordered an 8G which is due shortly. If I flash and install a rom on the 4G card, will i be able to copy it on the new 8G card, or do I have to do the process again on the 8G card?
Your rom isn't flashed to the SD card, it's flashed to the phones internal memory.
When you get your new card, connect your phone to the pc, and copy everything off the old card, then put the new card on and copy it all back.
ah ok I get it, so its like a normal OS. Great will try this soon. How long does all the process of Flashing and installing a new ROM take normally?
Flashing a new ROM, including wiping the data etc normally doesn't take more than 5 minutes.
oh great, thought it took longer. Have experience with WM flashing, but not Android.
Making a nandroid backup is the most time consuming step in flashing =)
will have to search for that term
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Flashing a new ROM, including wiping the data etc normally doesn't take more than 5 minutes.
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when you wipe the partion on SD to flash rom then flash back a nandroid backup does this partition card or do you need to wipe, partition then flash nandroid?

Another frustrated ROM updater

So yeah, this is post number 2,309 made by some guy who found all these instructions way too confusing.
I'm trying to install Baked Snack on my EVO, and I started out by using SimpleRoot to root my device, followed all the steps succesfully, and then I basically GUESSED (cause nobody says it outright) to go to EXTRA and FLASH RECOVERY, chose Clockwork, and then chose install ZIP from SD Card, picked out the BakedSnack zip file from my sd card, and the installation began, seemed to even work successfully, and even booted up (I LOVE that PC-like boot screen), gets to the point where it says ANDROID in ascii, and then it reboots... this cycle goes on forever.
anything I missed here?
I would start by doing a full wipe (options are in recovery), if that doesn't work reflash the rom.
You might also look at the topic titled 'How to start over: Fully rooted stock 1.47.651.1 in one shot (no adb!)' (Sorry I'm a new user so it won't let me post links) that way your at a good starting point to start playing with things.
Matt
When you went into recovery did you wipe the caches? Also...how long is "forever" ? Some initial boots may take a while (i.e. near 5min)...
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Best advice I can give is to root using roots method or the start over with the ota method.
Make sure you are nand unlocked also. Thats usually the source of all boot loops and I ain't talking cereal either.
Thanks
Thanks for the quick reply guys, I actually manage to go back to clockwork and delete all the cache, managed to finally boot up and it even seems to work well,
but I'm a little surprised, I thought this ROM was 2.2! I can't believe I did all this and I'm still at 2.1!
I WANT FROYO, whats the point?!
try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.
Cyanogen is probably the best Froyo at the moment, but that's just my opinion. Remember though, there is no HTC Sense, and never will be, in a Cyanogenmod, so if you want the Sense interface, pass on Cyan, and go for AVA Froyo
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try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.
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Lol, stole my thunder, and said it backasswerdz....lol....
Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.
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Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.
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How so? Never noticed anything of the such
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How so? Never noticed anything of the such
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Step 1: Hold hand out with palm facing up.
Step 2: Proceed to lower your face down into your open palm.
Step 3: Facepalm.
which recovery and how are you updating the rom?
Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)
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Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)
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You will have to check with each rom for the better battery life, that deals more with lowering voltage. Apps and tethering should work just the same.
Only the 2.1 roms have all the functionality atm, hence why they are still popular. Once HTC releases their Evo flavored Froyo you can expect better roms.

HTC Desire - New to android modding - help needed

Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
Hi and welcome. A couple of points I can help you with:
There are loads of roms to choose from, I am using this rom atm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Everything on this particular rom works fine and is very fast and stable. I generally find if roms have several revisions then are are generally very good. i.e. are having continuous support and developement.
As for rooting voiding warranty? Well this is no longer an issue as rooting can easily be reversed )
Hope this helps
LEWY
thehrushi said:
Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
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You do indeed need to Root the device before flashing, the only ROM that don't have 'things working' is the Desire HD ROM. I am not sure if that has been fixed or not yet though. All the other AOSP and Sense based Desire ROMs have everything working just fine. Rooting will void your warranty but it's super easy to reverse so there is nothing to worry about.
The most popular ROMs by far seem to be the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs (Non-Sense ROMs), all of them will have APP2SD built into them, the Sense ROMs also have APP2SD built into them.
LeeDrOiD is by far the most popular Sense based ROM, RCMixHD is the Desire HD based ROM, which I think still doesn't have the camera working.
And by far the most popular Desire ROM overall is the ASOP Cyanogen based DeFrost.
To get the most out of APP2SD you will need to download ROM Manager and create an EXT3 partition on your SD card so the ROM will place all of the Froyo compatable apps into the partion and not your internal memory.
Being brand new to the desire, I've flashed every Rom available in the last 2 weeks.
Leedroid is a very good sense Rom. I prefer having a Rom with sense right now because this is my first HTC.
Right now I'm running the Aurax sense Rom, solely because it has its own setCPU built in.
The hd roms didn't impress me that much, not yet at least, with a little more time they will be awesome though.
The MIUI roms are also amazingly pretty, if you don't mind the iPhone feel. My only problem with it though, and I've been told this hardly happens, my battery life was pathetic.
At the end of the day though, apart from the hardware, it is android and all the available apps that make our phone so great.
All the custom roms do add a lot of speed to the phone though, you have to do a quadrant after you flash so that you can see how awesome the Rom makes your phone run. They also add additional functionality compared to the stock Rom.
Honestly, I can't see why anyone would keep any Android device stock when there are such amazing roms around. At the end of the day its all down to your own preferences and what functions you like. You'll love any Rom you flash.
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Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
thehrushi said:
Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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It is honestly impossible to brick a desire. I bricked my MOTO backflip, there was no coming back from that. With the desire I flashed something that didn't work, but pressing volume down and power gets you right into the hbooot menu, from there just mount as usb and copy over a new Rom to flash.
The one thing you need to remember, when flashing new roms the first boot takes a while, never pull the battery thinking there's nothing happening, that will destroy your phone and there's no coming back from that.
Before every Rom you flash make sure to do a factory reset in the recovery menu, that ensures that the new Rom will work to its full capability and minimizes the chances of experiencing problems.
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thehrushi said:
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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You can brick your device flashing Radios, but you can always send it back to HTC, pay them an extortionate amount and they will revive it for you. But overall, the chances are slim to none in my experience.
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
Depending on the age of your desire, you shouldn't need to flash a radio though. I've never needed to flash a radio, but that's because my desire came with the latest radio, thankfully it still has the amoled screen.
If you do need to replace the radio and somehow brick it, if its still under warranty HTC will replace it for you because there is no way that they can prove you bricked the device.
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Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
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Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
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Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
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It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
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It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
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Exactly!

[Q] Unrooting questions

If I were to un-root my Droid Incredible, would I loose all the data I have.
e.g, SMS messages, contacts, applications+data for them.
If so, is there an application to back this up for un-rooted droid users?
Also, I never made a backup of the stock before flashing a new ROM, is it still possible to un-root?
Lastly, when un-rooting via downgrading, can I re-upgrade to 2.2?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Any help will be greatly appreciated.
MyBackup or Titanium Backup can do this i believe.
This is what you need to get back to stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786436
I thought those apps only work when it's rooted though...
i'm not 100% sure, but you won't lose your contacts because those are synced with your google account.
Why do you want to go back to stock?
there's a way to save all your contacts, go to people, then hit the menu button and then press import/export. Export all your contacts to your sd card, and you can save your contacts that way. You won't be able to use titanium backup because it requires root and you're trying to unroot. Unrooting will ultimately bring you back to 100% stock, and you'll lose all your data and apps. If you want to unroot, just follow the directions i gave you in the last forum, and if you have questions ill answer them later.
To be frank, there's no true purpose to being unrooted just so you can make a backup. The only reason you would unroot is if you want to stay unrooted. There's a bunch of ROMs you can use so staying rooted would be more beneficial for you
The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/
Meetii said:
The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/
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what features are you missing? there's a lot more that you can do with an unrooted phone, faster speeds, better UI feel, more functionality, wireless tethering for free, but it's entirely your pick
Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?
Meetii said:
Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?
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Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.
Thanks, I'll revert to that if I don't like MIUI. Do I need to do anything special before flashing MIUI?
nope, everything needed for any rom you flash will be included with the rom and installed along with the rom when you flash it.
Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?
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Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.
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it's exactly like how he puts it, it's all a matter of preference. What you like might not be what i like. There's a whole bunch of themes on top of the ROMS you use, so just take a while and go through each one until you find one that you really like. I prefer to the new sense roms and that's why i'm sticking with Uber Sense Rom. all a matter of what looks and feels good for you!
Meetii said:
Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?
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A rom is basically the base of everything, the tweaks in software and all of that is your rom. So to put it into perspective, it's windows 7. And what you have with themes is the overlay that goes over that. If you prefer a black overlay, if you prefer your start menu somewhere else, everything can be changed according to how the developer feels like. Some developers primarily do ROMs, others do themes, rarely do any do both.
A kernel is harder to explain, if i had to think of a way to relate it to computers, it would be the equivalent of BIOS. It gives you tweaks in speed and battery life. With a properly done kernel, you're phone will have a LOT more battery life, and have faster speeds. Now, not all people's phones react the same way to kernels. What kernel works for me, might not work for you. The kernel i use might give me days of battery life, while when you use it, it might end up giving you hours of battery life. Everyone's phone reacts different, there's no universal kernel that works best for everyone.
Thanks guys, I really like the MIUI theme so I'm going to stick with it. I don't think I'm going to mess with kernels though. Being that I don't want to mess up my phone again.
if you find that you want to flash a kernel later, it's pretty simple. Download the file, then flash like you would a rom, pretty simple haha.
Slight issue...
On the MIUI ROM, I downloaded a theme with the application it came with for downloading theme. After doing so, I went to install it on said application and now it's stuck on the MIUI booting screen and it's been about 15 minutes. Should I unplug the battery...or what?
EDIT: Problem solved.

[Q] Doubts regarding OS version

Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
prodeguerriero said:
Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
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Yes you can go back when you want to
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda app-developers app
FAtfcK said:
Yes you can go back when you want to
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
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init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
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Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
prodeguerriero said:
Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Yeap. Because if you use link2sd you'll eventually reach a limit as I tried. And the storage will keep gettig full.
Yeap you can use link2sd I personally like to remove it because the menu looks messy and I have to scroll a lot to find my favourite apps so its your choice on whether you wanna remove it or not because int2ext increases your storage as it mounts sd-ext to.... I don't really get this stuff too but whatever
So far the latest android for the wfs is cm10. It is quite stable as YouTube, autobrightness and loads of stuff work. But the disadvantage is that its quite laggy and is a battery killer.
There is cm9 too. Its really smooth but there are bugs such as YouTube HQ videos playback, camcorder not fully supported and crap
Anytime happy to help
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