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Hi all, my first post here, i cant help it but i am nearly 65, bald and retired !.
I treated myself to a Desire last week, un-branded, £10 month with Tescos.
I have been Rooted a few days now, i want to Flash a Rom next, but with so many out there, where do i start ?.
At a guess i do believe i should try CyanogenMOD 7 , but please bear in mind i am completely new to this Smartphone business and i am slow in picking things up, so is "CM7" a bit too much for my grey matter, or am i putting obsticles in the way that dont really exist !
I was very pleased with my faultless rooting, and i have rehearsed the Rom Flashing continuosly using Rom Manager which looks as if it does all the dirty work for me.
If there is a ROM for noobies i havent found it yet !!!!
Tim
You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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Hi Mr Ghost, i am well pleased somebody replied, CM7 is simply the one that crops up the most. The word Sense, does this by any chance mean HTC Sense ? so if a Rom doesnt have Sense that must mean it doesnt have many or any of the features that make my current ROM more friendly to use.
If CM7 doesnt have SENSE does that mean that the keyboard doent do Landscape mode ?
LEEDROID yeah i could have a go at that one, TA ......... i dont really want to have to partition my SD card, i read about a Goldcard if you partition etc. which doesnt sound v. good.
O yes, i found that Rom Manager Backs Up my original ROM and Wipes, does it ONLY wipe the phones memory ?
thanks for you help
tim
Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Thanks, so it is LEEDROID for starters thanks buddy, i still dont know what a Goldcard is though, perhaps i dont need to know LOL.
One small problem, LEEDROID isnt available in the list of roms in Rom Manager, i suppose i shall have download it "manually" and get it in the relevant Rom Manager Folder, great sorted i should be able to do that.
I have Titanium Backup Pro as well so its best if i Backup "All user apps" that should be sufficient, yeah ? and itll be no good Backing up ANYTHING ELSE, becuase if restored it would mess up LEEDROID, am i correct with that assumption ?
tim
Yes i would say start with Leedroid.
Best thing is to only back up user apps, i never back up anything else. Most likely it will mess something up.
The goldcard is only needed when using a RUU with branded devices, for normal flashing you don't need one.
Just download the Leedroid noA2SD version and put in on your sd, not in any folder just on the sd. Then in rom manager go to install rom form sd and find the zip file.
Edit: looks like the site went down, here's another link. http://db.tt/FBKcMZD
Thanks for that info pal, youre a star.
I havent seen any mention on this site (although i havent searched for it yet) of the battery not lasting very long, however, off topic i suppose, and you can bollock me for that if you like,:-
for internet on my Desire at home i always use my home WiFi, my off topic question is, does WiFi take more out of the battery than using my Providers GSM/WCDMA connection ? i have hardly made a dent on my Providers Data allowance.
tim
What uses more power depends a bit on how strong your 3g signal is, if it's weak it will probably use more power on mobile data and if it's strong, wifi will use more data but this is no gonne make a significant difference on your battery life.
Usually the battery life gets better after some time, also let your battery drain once until the phone powers itself off and then charge it, while it's off, till it's full. Then use it normally again.
Absolutely brilliant Pal, thanks for sticking with me answering my questions for the last hour or two, it was really good of you thanks.
I will definitely try that with my battery next time it needscharging up, thanks.
I will report back tommorrow whether or not i still have a fully functioning phone, LOL. i feel far more confident about "doing it" now, afterall i'm not likely to be "doing it" with anything else ROFL !!!
tim
phew i had difficulty in locating the file, i eventually found the Leedroid Rom here
http://leedroid.com/bravo-roms
I also saw a "radio" file for the same Rom, dam, i have downloaded the latest version and will put it on my SD card the same place as the Rom file in the ROOT directory.
Until i got an Android Phone, i had only used Windows in all it's various versions, of course in Windows, the word ROOT simply means the Top (or bottom?) of the Folder Tree
but of course the same word can mean several hundred pounds when getting it wrong
PS.. do i need to do anything with this extra feature:-
•Re-added “Mod install location” to No A2SD build•
Tim
Root of the sd means not in a folder.
If you are currently on android 2.2 there is no real need to change radio. If you do change radio make sure you are absolutely sure what you are doing.
And you shouldn't have anything to do regarding the mod installation location.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks that is what i was trying to say !.
Ok on the other two things, ta
Tim
Leedroid Flashed yippee
Thanks for all your help Mr Ghost, i am happily using the Leedroid Rom now, all went smoothly, the battery is still going down preety quickly, i am getting a new battery from HTC any day now, which may perform better than my original ?, but at least i shall have a spare LOL.
Tim
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
germsandbugs said:
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
timmy toad said:
Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
timmy toad said:
Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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AAAhhhh, Now you have completely befuddled me !, i dont know what you mean by N1 table table scripts in terminal etc.
I think i will stay as i am thanks, i am not quite so serious at getting my hands dirty as most of you are !. LOL
tim
So, I have been rooted for ages.
I liked rooting because it was simple to follow the instructions on what to do (it was just like installing any old application on a PC if I remember). I haven't exactly explored the full features of rooting as I am just an average user but now I am finding I want more apps than the phone will allow, so it's time to get a new ROM.
Here's Some Information:
HTC Desire - Unbranded (UK)
Rooted with Clockwork Mod
S-Off Status: Don't know
Android: 2.2
Software: 2.29.405.5
Why Do I Want to Get a New ROM?
Space issues really.
I am nearly constantly warned these days about low space. I've been running with about 30Mb to spare, but now when I update various apps, it moans at me. It also means I am limited to what I can now install, even though I may only use the app once every few months.
My battery life is good (well, 2-3 days) and everything else is fine, it's just the space issue that I need to solve.
What ROM's Have I Looked At?
Starburst:
Seems to be to be the one I need, although I perhaps am being narrow minded with the whole "I want sense" and "I need the DATA2SD" thing.
CyanogenMod:
Seems nice, but no Sense? Maybe I can pull away from Sense as really I only use the clock/weather, the larger weather, calendar, a little bit FriendStream, but I am happy without FriendStream and HTC Peep I could install by itself or go without it (I can just text Twitter). There are many calendar apps and again, it might be possible to install it as a stand alone app, or I might find one that is simply better.
Someone else suggested LeeDroid which I've heard a lot about too, although I haven't really looked into it.
So, I have a few questions now:
Should I be looking to upgrade to Gingerbread?
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
Is there a ROM that has the DATA2SD with Sense 3.5?
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
I think that's it.
I don't really want to be installing one ROM, then deciding it's rubbish so installing another, then another, I'd just like an informed view. I think my main aim is ease of install. I'm not very confident with adb, although I can obviously follow "type this and that" step by step guides.
If anyone has any other suggestions then that would be great.
Thanks
I don't know all the answers, but I'll try to answer some. I had the same problem as you did.
Is Sense 3.5 a good way to go?
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I found that Sense 3.0, Sense 2.1+3.0 hybrids were very slow(I guess this applies for Sense 3.5 since it's newer than 3.0)
I have read that Titanium Backup will allow me to save all the apps and their data/saved games somewhere and then it's just a one-touch-install to have them all back again, is that correct?
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Yes.
Will some ROM's allow me to delete/choose not to install things like Teeter?
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Most Sense ROMs are pretty stripped of crap like that. However if you do have it you can uninstall it afterwards.
If I install a new ROM, I can put it back to a standard stock ROM correct? Just so when I come to sell the phone on, it's back to what it was.
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Do a backup before flashing a new ROM! That way you will have your old ROM. However I'm not sure about how to unroot, but it is possible.
When I've installed a custom ROM, I can still use the Market/App Brain to update apps correct?
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Yes.
P.S. My first try was CyanongenMod, and I haven't regretted it since. Almost every Sense app/widget can be replaced by apps in the market.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Man, I thought this forum was busy and there'd be loads of recommendations.
Seems not :/
I believe Sense 3.0 is good enough since Sense 3.5 ROM is not yet stable.
Cool3d / Aurora has good performance. But you need to S-OFF your phone first. It's very important before jumping into ROM that requires ext4 and CM7
Recently reset EVO fixing issues but it's still unrooted 2.2 with Go Launcher EX, any reason not to allow HTC software system update 4.24.651.1 (109.22 MB) -FOTA update to 2.3 as some apps are requiring it (previously people were saying it would be harder to root in the future if needed)?
BTW, just checked internal phone storage & I'm down to 55 MB so I would have to try to make space-how much available space would you recommend for this & free in general (& if you recommend this update)?
-Thanks
You can root with unrevoked then upgrade to Gingerbread using any custom ROM, like CM7. Or, if you're interested in ICS, you can try the ROM in my signature, which has a functioning 3MP camera.
Lacedaemon said:
You can root with unrevoked then upgrade to Gingerbread using any custom ROM, like CM7. Or, if you're interested in ICS, you can try the ROM in my signature, which has a functioning 3MP camera.
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Thanks but what about if I want to wait to root & how much available space do you recommend for all this (damn EVO should have had more internal storage)?
-Thanks
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks but what about if I want to wait to root & how much available space do you recommend for all this (damn EVO should have had more internal storage)?
-Thanks
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Honestly, I've never run out of internal space on my EVO, and I'm always switching ROMs & recoveries on the go; Therefore I don't exactly have any recommendations for you. However, if some of the apps you need or really want require Gingerbread, then there's really no reason to wait to upgrade, as there's always Revolutionary to root.
Lacedaemon said:
Honestly, I've never run out of internal space on my EVO, and I'm always switching ROMs & recoveries on the go; Therefore I don't exactly have any recommendations for you. However, if some of the apps you need or really want require Gingerbread, then there's really no reason to wait to upgrade, as there's always Revolutionary to root.
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Good to hear that from you but before the reset I could not install anything & was getting insufficient storage errors, how much more expensive would it have been for HTC to have put in 4-16GB internal..
If I root with unrevoked instead of rev preview as I'm still 2.2, would I be able to apply to this HTC update or would that unroot me or cause conflict (or would I then be limited to compatible unofficial custom ROMs post any root)?
I moved most apps to sd & now have 145 MB available internal storage, but if I apply this 110 MB update, will that only leave me with 35 MB or would I be able to get rid of temp files etc?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer for example requires 2.3+ & says it's currently "incompatible" (but was surprised Skype front cam works on 2.2 eventhough I had read that it required "Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera" which had sounded odd)
To root-custom ROMs, how much space would you all want to see before proceeding as running out of space could be disastrous, no?
BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
-Thanks
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Good to hear that from you but before the reset I could not install anything & was getting insufficient storage errors, how much more expensive would it have been for HTC to have put in 4-16GB internal..
If I root with unrevoked instead of rev preview as I'm still 2.2, would I be able to apply to this HTC update or would that unroot me or cause conflict (or would I then be limited to compatible unofficial custom ROMs post any root)?
I moved most apps to sd & now have 145 MB available internal storage, but if I apply this 110 MB update, will that only leave me with 35 MB or would I be able to get rid of temp files etc?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer for example requires 2.3+ & says it's currently "incompatible" (but was surprised Skype front cam works on 2.2 eventhough I had read that it required "Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera" which had sounded odd)
To root-custom ROMs, how much space would you all want to see before proceeding as running out of space could be disastrous, no?
BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
-Thanks
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
If your thinking about rooting, I would go for it. Even if you update to 2.3 and use revolutionary, it is very easy and only takes 5 minutes to root. Plus that will help get more internal storage. Using apps2sd and partitioning your sdcard will help a lot as well. Just a suggestion if you were to root, I would get the MikG 3.0 rom as it's one of the most stable,and everything working properly, gingerbread roms out there.
Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.
Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
If your thinking about rooting, I would go for it. Even if you update to 2.3 and use revolutionary, it is very easy and only takes 5 minutes to root. Plus that will help get more internal storage. Using apps2sd and partitioning your sdcard will help a lot as well. Just a suggestion if you were to root, I would get the MikG 3.0 rom as it's one of the most stable,and everything working properly, gingerbread roms out there.
Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.
Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
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Before Go Launcher EX I was more eager to root but I'm quite satisfied with the customization GoLEX offers. Part of me wants to root to delete the bloatware & for the free Wi-Fi tether (probably barely use it as it's a battery hog but the option would be nice for emergencies). Good to hear about fast root & fully enabled stable ROMs though..
This MikG 3.0? I like 3D interfaces but I think I'm done with Sense as I never want to see "Loading..." ever!
Still curious how much space would you all want to see before proceeding with a root-ROMs?
-Thanks
Still curious how much space would you all want to see before proceeding with a root-ROMs?
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Doesn't matter. When you root it doesn't take any space. When you flash a custom ROM you would take the apps you want and back them up to your SD card using an app called "Titanium Backup". Then you would go into what's called "recovery" and you would wipe everything off of your phone and install new software. I would recommend Decks 1.3 if you don't want sense or MikG 3.0 if you still want sense. Then you would go back to the app titanium backup and restore the apps that you backed up.
So when you are done it will give you TONS of storage space available. Like all but about 120 on MikG and all but about 50 on Decks 1.3.
Does that explain it well enough?
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Doesn't matter. When you root it doesn't take any space. When you flash a custom ROM you would take the apps you want and back them up to your SD card using an app called "Titanium Backup". Then you would go into what's called "recovery" and you would wipe everything off of your phone and install new software. I would recommend Decks 1.3 if you don't want sense or MikG 3.0 if you still want sense. Then you would go back to the app titanium backup and restore the apps that you backed up.
So when you are done it will give you TONS of storage space available. Like all but about 120 on MikG and all but about 50 on Decks 1.3.
Does that explain it well enough?
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Yup thanks, just making sure as insufficient storage errors used to torture me before I reset it.
What do you all think of Zedomax vids - guides- sites ?
Is unrooting ever an issue, any reason I should avoid rooting (i.e. security concerns etc)?
-Thanks
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Yup thanks, just making sure as insufficient storage errors used to torture me before I reset it.
What do you all think of Zedomax vids - guides- sites ?
Is unrooting ever an issue, any reason I should avoid rooting (i.e. security concerns etc)?
-Thanks
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Unrooting shouldn't be an issue. I've done it a coupe times to take my phone into sprint (rooting voids your warranty) and all you have to do is download the correct file or an RUU, rename it to PC36IMG and place it on your sdcard. After that, boot your phone into the bootloader (take out battery, put back it, hold don volume down + power button) it will then ask you to update, select yes. Let your phone do its thing and bam your uprooted with stock rom and s-on.
I have never came across any reason not to root. It's Imo the best thing you can do for your phone. For instance, with dtapps2sd I have around 110 apps installed and have 232 MB of internal memory left. After you root, your phone will run better and you can dramatically increase battery life.
Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.
Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
Since you are still on stock 2.2 just root using unrevoked. Then flash whatever custom rom you want. Since you actually still have the choice to use unrevoked over revolutionary, I would suggest unrevoked. It's also slightly easier to unroot unrevoked, although they are both simple to do. Also unrevoked forever!
Sent from my DECK'ed out EVO
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
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Actually, scottypeterson, the devs at Evervolv have gotten the camera working at full 8MP. I think the dev (MongooseHelix) wanted to release it publicly himself, so I'm not gonna post the .zip...
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SMARTPHONEPC said:
BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
-Thanks
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Evervolv 2.1.0p4 is the only ICS ROM I've heard of that has a functioning camera. Right now, without the .zip that MongooseHelix is developing, the back camera (the big one) functions only at 3MP.
The only other thing not working that I care about is 4G. I used to use MIUI, so for me, that's not necessarily a problem.
EDIT TO MY LAST POST: MongooseHelix has released the .zip on Twitter, here's the link to it: https://twitter.com/#!/MongooseHelix/status/156264001242796032
Upgrading to 2.3? Holy crap you're way behind the times. Most people, including myself, are running 2.3.7....or at the very least 2.3.5. Some have even made the switch to ICS already.
Not sure what has been posted in this thread already but there is no logical reason to wait to root your phone. And there is no logical reason to still be using Froyo when GB is significantly better....not to mention its the stock system the phone ships with. That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
Concordium said:
That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
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Sounds like my dad, Concordium.
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Lacedaemon said:
Sounds like my dad, Concordium.
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Nah for my dad I've set him up with iPhones. I'm the only one in my family who appreciates the superior freedom+value of Android, most of them have iPhones, one still on BlackBerry for work. I just upgraded my dad to iPhone 4S last month but if the Samsung Galaxy Note was available then on AT&T I probably could have sold him on its unique features..
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Upgrading to 2.3? Holy crap you're way behind the times. Most people, including myself, are running 2.3.7....or at the very least 2.3.5. Some have even made the switch to ICS already.
Not sure what has been posted in this thread already but there is no logical reason to wait to root your phone. And there is no logical reason to still be using Froyo when GB is significantly better....not to mention its the stock system the phone ships with. That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
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You guys are aware that Win XP is still the dominant OS right? This remains mostly because of business markets.
I would have updated to 2.3 but was getting insufficient storage errors even from small apps until I reset it (& previously some here encouraged me not to update to 2.3 if I planned to root most easily-safely). My EVO is also a business device so there are more security concerns (rooting is not sanctioned) but was planning on rooting it after I get its work replacement (interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note but I was not a fan of the SGNexus).
Rooting really isn't a security concerns for your work phones?
-Thanks
Well we're not concerned with Windows' distribution within the corporate world. We're talking about the typical end user.
Now, if you're running out of storage then you're not moving your apps to your SD card. Moving them to your SD card frees up internal storage and helps keep your phone running smooth. Also, allowing thousands of SMS/MMS messages to accumulate on your phone takes up space and slows your phone down.
As far as rooting goes, its not a security issue unless you are careless with the apps you put on it. Sort of like a computer. Antivirus is a good thing to have. But your antivirus doesn't really need to do much if you use some common sense while surfing the net. With rooting you can improve battery life, tether, customize your system however you want it, and much much more. There really are no downsides to rooting.
Edit: both unrEVOked and Revolutionary are easy as hell to use. Both do an awesome job of painlessly rooting the Evo. Which one you use is just dependent on your system and radio version.
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Concordium said:
Well we're not concerned with Windows' distribution within the corporate world. We're talking about the typical end user.
Now, if you're running out of storage then you're not moving your apps to your SD card. Moving them to your SD card frees up internal storage and helps keep your phone running smooth. Also, allowing thousands of SMS/MMS messages to accumulate on your phone takes up space and slows your phone down.
As far as rooting goes, its not a security issue unless you are careless with the apps you put on it. Sort of like a computer. Antivirus is a good thing to have. But your antivirus doesn't really need to do much if you use some common sense while surfing the net. With rooting you can improve battery life, tether, customize your system however you want it, and much much more. There really are no downsides to rooting.
Edit: both unrEVOked and Revolutionary are easy as hell to use. Both do an awesome job of painlessly rooting the Evo. Which one you use is just dependent on your system and radio version.
Sent from my V6 Supercharged Evo using XDA App
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What I'm expressing is a concern about using it in a workplace environment as well..I've read in theory rooting makes your device more vulnerable but glad to hear in practice it should not be much of a concern.
I do move as much as possible to the SD card, previously I just had too many apps, some of which could not be moved at all or entirely to sdcard. How much space can I expect to gain by rooting & deleting the stock's bloatware?
Could you elaborate on "dependent on your system and radio version", or i.e. since I'm still on 2.2 unrEVOked is an option vs Rev for 2.3?
-Thanks
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What I'm expressing is a concern about using it in a workplace environment as well..I've read in theory rooting makes your device more vulnerable but glad to hear in practice it should not be much of a concern.
I do move as much as possible to the SD card, previously I just had too many apps, some of which could not be moved at all or entirely to sdcard. How much space can I expect to gain by rooting & deleting the stock's bloatware?
Could you elaborate on "dependent on your system and radio version", or i.e. since I'm still on 2.2 unrEVOked is an option vs Rev for 2.3?
-Thanks
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There are security apps for the Evo. Things like Wavesecure and the like. They search apk's for malicious code. That would be a good thing to invest in if you're concerned about possible security issues.
Also, here is the page for unrEVOked. Scroll down on the page and check the listed versions. If your Evo is running one of the baseband versions listed then you can run unrEVOked Forever. If it is running a different baseband version then you need to use Revolutionary. You can check your baseband version by holding the volume up button and the power button at the same time until the white screen appears. Your baseband version will be listed at the top of the screen.
check out deck's ICS ROM, amazing! not a daily driver though.
IMPORTANT: Stable to me means little to no bugs after months of use, not hours or days. This is not a thread for experimentation
Hi there,
I'm currently using mildwild 4.3 on my original HTC desire.
The intention to begin with was to get a ROM that would be as stable as possible and would cause me as little fuss as possible and basically I could continue using with the desire until the desire itself gave up with battery, too many falls, a cracked screen etc, none of which has happened yet so is still going strong.
This phone is for business use and I don't enjoy having to change ROMS like a lot of users on the site would, I just want something that works and will give me the least amount of hassle.
The phone does restart itself on occasion but this has happened with other ROMS I've used too.
I'm not too pushed about having the latest and greatest apps and gadgets which may be offered in the latest android versions. I'm happy with what 4.3 offers, anything extra would be a bonus.
Now the issue with 4.3 again is the internal space. Right now if I go to apps > manage > all, I see I have 129MB used and 19MB free, I've been using LinksSD as an extra APP on 4.3 and have moved all I can to the SD card, so I can't free any more space. Unfortunately if I'm giving it heavy use and get a lot of emails etc, the USED/FREE ratio changes and if free gets to about 15MB, then I get the space warning and synching to the phone stops and I can't get important business information which I sync with the calendar etc.
I've managed to keep it steady around the 19mb mark but what prompted this message was the release of a new app I want which takes up 30mb as opposed to the current one on the phone taking up 10mb, I'm afraid this will use up my precious few MB and will give me the synching issues again.
So what I was wondering is, does Mildwild 5.5 (or greater) handle the internal space in a different way that as long as I have decent sized SD card, I should never have space issues with the internal memory? This is important also as both my friend and my father are having internal space issues with their original desire and if I find a solution would like to help them too.
If you could please advise on the most stable version of Mildwild for the HTC Desire and if there is one that handles the internal space differently to 4.3 and would therefore never give me internal space issues as long as I have a decent SD card inserted. 4.3 isn't the answer it seems, but hopefully there is an alternative?
Stability is of prime importance, given the phone is used and is crucial for my business and may be put on my father and friends phone too, I need to make sure I don't have to touch any phone due to bugs etc, hopefully ever! I'd also like everything to simply "work", video recording, bluetooth etc.
Any feedback, direct links to suggested ROMS etc would be greatly appreciated! I'd prefer to not stray away from Mildwild as before installing 4.3 I did a lot of research and I'd rather stick to what I know.
I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
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Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
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5.5 is an old CM7 based Mildwild.
4.3 is an old Oxygen based Mildwild.
Newer oxygen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353861
I would choose oxygen because it is the most stable custom android rom I know.
And if you would like more space, either change hboot, or check the sd-card partition guide in my sig.
I concur with MW's Oxygen-based ROMs as the most stable and reliable choice for your phone. However, instead of the most recent version (called MW-4.9 JG), I'd recommend version MW-4.4.
Why? Because up until that version, the ROM base that MildWild used was Oxygen w/ roalex tweaks, and from MW-4.5 onwards he went back to pure Oxygen. I find the roalex tweaks to be a very nice extra touch to the ROM, they make it feel like a more polished, finished piece of work.
Bottom line is, it's the best ROM I ever had on my phone, and after using it for months I've yet to encounter problems with it.
Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
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Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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Thanks again for the feedback. Given the problems I've seen this guy face before when things don't go smoothly, I think I'd rather have him at hand. I'm pretty much watching what he does and doing the phone end of things so learn as I go along anyway. I popped him a link to your post #7 above when I saw it so I'll see what he says. I'm probably going to do 3 phones at once too as my friend and father are having space issues aswell so be well worth having an expert on hand!
Actually, any chance of a link to the correct 4.4 I should be going for?
I'll drop a link later, and add some more links to my personal recommended tweaks (like island3r's modded kernel so you can use smartassV2 governor, etc.). I'll update this post.
ZEDIT: Here's the links:
- MildWild-V 4.4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zu8dquw2echwhd/MildWild_V-4.4.zip
- Latest Thalamus kernel modded by island3r: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31096646&highlight=smartassv2#post31096646
- AGPS patch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggtgzme8bqscbq3/agps.patch.google.build.alt.v3.1.zip
- Stock bootanimation (don't flash this, manually put it in /data/local on your device's internal memory): https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3tek2gq9678lzk/bootanimation.zip
You're welcome.
Hit thanks pretty please?
Thanks a lot for that. I don't want to complicate things too much as I think I'll be doing this to 4 phones at the one time, my own, my friends, my fathers and a back up desire I have for business. What would the tweaks do exactly?
I heard back from my android expert anyway and he said the following:
To the best of my memory (And my chat records!), your phone is on the stock HBOOT with the standard partitioning. If you'd like to go all the way and repartition the phone and set up a stable ROM w/ Apps2SD and all the bells and whistles, it can definitely be done but everything will be brought back to a clean slate on all three phones (Including the contents of the SD Card) so they'll all need to be backed up.
Ideally, what we could do is...
Change the HBOOT to Cm7 R2 or Oxygen R2 (Which is a bit more lean and splits it 100MB system and 332MB data)
Flash the latest stable Cm7 or Oxygen based ROM depending on what you prefer
With clean and empty SD cards, we'll partition it for 1-2GB apps2SD and set up the ROM to use that space
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So I guess I should stick to Oxygen for both the Hboot and the Rom? So Mildwild 4.4 and what about the Hboot? EDIT: Just saw that eddiehk6 suggested Cm7 R2, Which would be best in my situation I wonder?
Consdering I'm having space issues in the current set up, so applications > manage > all shows 129mb used, 20mb free, how much can I expect that to change by? It wouldn't be worth all the hassle on 4 phones if it's only going to make it an extra 50mb or so, will it completely change the way the space is handled and I should have no more space issues with moderate use until the phone packs in itself?
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I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
Thanks a lot for that and for all the links above too!! Very much appreciated, I'm not too tech as I said but I'll point the other guy to your posts and we'll hopefully get all the phones sorted to make the most of them and they'll be stable as possible until they compose
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Post updated.
I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
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Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
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Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
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You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
karthikus reminded me of one thing actually, in the current bluetooth settings on mildwild 4.3, it's not possible to rename bluetooth devices but apparently in ICS and JB it is, is it possible to get this functionality while doing the updates without risking stability I wonder?
It doesn't exactly solve my problem I posted about here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83280543 but it may help..
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You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
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How about replacing framework-res apk from latest MW Oxygen (which has JB animations) to the old version. Will it work coz they both have different base ?
I was telling my friend that I'd be able to help his memory issue and he said he found something that would give 2gb of internal memory, as opposed to the 332 or so I'd get from doing the methods above. It's described here: http://www.andreagrandi.it/2011/08/...emory-to-2gb-using-cyanogenmod-7-and-data2sd/
Does anyone know if this is indeed possible?
Hello everyone.
I have this device for a long time now. And it's time now to move on.
What I wanted to ask you people is; Should I unroot and go on stock ruu or should I keep my phone like this?
Why I ask this is: I simply can't find a ROM that works without problems.
On KK ROMs I always had freezes and I have to pull out the battery.
On JB ROMs I had random reboots.
On ICS roms I had random reboots.
On GB ROMs it was always something, either freezes, reboots.
The only ROM that was lets say great is MIUI-XJ but, I flashed it yesterday but I mobile data connection doesn't work and I dont know how to fix it.
I will give the phone to my dad and he doesn't need root or anything. Just something stable that works.
Is there a custom ROM that someone of you uses and that has no random reboots/freezes? If so, could you please give me a link to it.
Or if not, should I unroot and go stock? If so, can anyone give me a guide how to do it?
Big thanks!
As a general rule of thumb, GB ROMs for Desire will be more stable. Don't know which particular ROMs you had which rebooted, most I tried were very stable, though it's been a while.
Make sure you set up everything correctly. Most ROMs require an sd-ext partition on the sdcard, should be done with gparted or 4EXT recovery only.
However, if it's now for your dad, and he doesn't really need root or custom ROM or care about any of this, I'd personally recommend the 2.3.3. GB RUU to avoid issues. On a custom ROM, he'll likely come to you for help when / if things go wrong or he doesn't understand some crazy setting
The only caveat with stock ROM is if he needs to install many apps...it will run out of memory very quickly.
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As a general rule of thumb, GB ROMs for Desire will be more stable. Don't know which particular ROMs you had which rebooted, most I tried were very stable, though it's been a while.
Make sure you set up everything correctly. Most ROMs require an sd-ext partition on the sdcard, should be done with gparted or 4EXT recovery only.
However, if it's now for your dad, and he doesn't really need root or custom ROM or care about any of this, I'd personally recommend the 2.3.3. GB RUU to avoid issues. On a custom ROM, he'll likely come to you for help when / if things go wrong or he doesn't understand some crazy setting
The only caveat with stock ROM is if he needs to install many apps...it will run out of memory very quickly.
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Well mate I always made an ext partition via 4EXT recovery. Tried with 512mb, with 1gb but there was always somthing that doesnt work correctly >.<
The last thing I flashed is Mildwild 5.0. The rom is ULTRA but ULTRA fast, but I still had 2 random freezes.
Well tbh, he uses mostly Whatsapp. And calls ofcourse. So that with apps wont be a big problem. I might install ebay, skype and maybe one or two more apps. So I think there wont be a big problem with memory.
But still, I'd like to keep the phone rooted because its easier to fix something on a rooted phone, atleast for me.
Any tips what else should I try? Preferably GB or ICS rom. I still find those two most stable and fastest.
Although I've tried with zillion of roms, maybe I have missed one. Doesnt matter how old the rom is, I just wanna something that works and thats 2.3+.
Thanks
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Well mate I always made an ext partition via 4EXT recovery. Tried with 512mb, with 1gb but there was always somthing that doesnt work correctly >.<
The last thing I flashed is Mildwild 5.0. The rom is ULTRA but ULTRA fast, but I still had 2 random freezes.
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Good, so the partition itself was never the problem, as long as it wasn't anything bigger than ~2GB. 512MB or 1GB wouldn't have made any difference, only that 512MB would be a lot more limiting for app space.
I used that ROM myself, maybe a rare random reboot, but don't think I ever had a complete freeze. No way of knowing the cause without a logcat, or knowledge of any apps, kernel, radio version, or other mods.
Well tbh, he uses mostly Whatsapp. And calls ofcourse. So that with apps wont be a big problem. I might install ebay, skype and maybe one or two more apps. So I think there wont be a big problem with memory.
But still, I'd like to keep the phone rooted because its easier to fix something on a rooted phone, atleast for me.
Any tips what else should I try? Preferably GB or ICS rom. I still find those two most stable and fastest.
Although I've tried with zillion of roms, maybe I have missed one. Doesnt matter how old the rom is, I just wanna something that works and thats 2.3+.
Thanks
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I'd still start him out with stock ROM and see if it suits him first. Let him test it for a few days with his setup. At least it will be stable. To be honest I've also tried rooting other people's phones, in a lot of cases they don't really care about anything but the main apps. There shouldn't really be anything for you to fix on stock if all he uses is whatsapp
If you have tried that many ROMs there's something with your setup which is clashing somewhere. May even be the sdcard itself, don't know. Most GB ROMs especially were/are rock solid. Don't know what else to suggest apart from CM, oxygen, redux based ones + compatible A2SD method for apps space.
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Good, so the partition itself was never the problem, as long as it wasn't anything bigger than ~2GB. 512MB or 1GB wouldn't have made any difference, only that 512MB would be a lot more limiting for app space.
I used that ROM myself, maybe a rare random reboot, but don't think I ever had a complete freeze. No way of knowing the cause without a logcat, or knowledge of any apps, kernel, radio version, or other mods.
I'd still start him out with stock ROM and see if it suits him first. Let him test it for a few days with his setup. At least it will be stable. To be honest I've also tried rooting other people's phones, in a lot of cases they don't really care about anything but the main apps. There shouldn't really be anything for you to fix on stock if all he uses is whatsapp
If you have tried that many ROMs there's something with your setup which is clashing somewhere. May even be the sdcard itself, don't know. Most GB ROMs especially were/are rock solid. Don't know what else to suggest apart from CM, oxygen, redux based ones + compatible A2SD method for apps space.
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Aight thanks mate. I will still try few more ROMs, maybe I've missed a GB one somewhere.
But yeah, if I decide to go stock, should I do it via PB99IMG or via pc? And, which stock version should I get? Im from Europe, device bought in Croatia.
Cheers!
chorba69 said:
Aight thanks mate. I will still try few more ROMs, maybe I've missed a GB one somewhere.
But yeah, if I decide to go stock, should I do it via PB99IMG or via pc? And, which stock version should I get? Im from Europe, device bought in Croatia.
Cheers!
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RUU can run by whichever method works, doesn't really matter. Personally I like the PB99IMG method in this situation as it's a big file to flash, and does not rely on usb cable or computer drivers etc. Use the 2.3.3 GB RUU, doesn't requite a goldcard