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[Q] Unrooting questions

If I were to un-root my Droid Incredible, would I loose all the data I have.
e.g, SMS messages, contacts, applications+data for them.
If so, is there an application to back this up for un-rooted droid users?
Also, I never made a backup of the stock before flashing a new ROM, is it still possible to un-root?
Lastly, when un-rooting via downgrading, can I re-upgrade to 2.2?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Any help will be greatly appreciated.

MyBackup or Titanium Backup can do this i believe.
This is what you need to get back to stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786436

I thought those apps only work when it's rooted though...

i'm not 100% sure, but you won't lose your contacts because those are synced with your google account.
Why do you want to go back to stock?

there's a way to save all your contacts, go to people, then hit the menu button and then press import/export. Export all your contacts to your sd card, and you can save your contacts that way. You won't be able to use titanium backup because it requires root and you're trying to unroot. Unrooting will ultimately bring you back to 100% stock, and you'll lose all your data and apps. If you want to unroot, just follow the directions i gave you in the last forum, and if you have questions ill answer them later.
To be frank, there's no true purpose to being unrooted just so you can make a backup. The only reason you would unroot is if you want to stay unrooted. There's a bunch of ROMs you can use so staying rooted would be more beneficial for you

The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/

Meetii said:
The main reason I want to be un-rooted is because I miss having stock. :/
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what features are you missing? there's a lot more that you can do with an unrooted phone, faster speeds, better UI feel, more functionality, wireless tethering for free, but it's entirely your pick

Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?

Meetii said:
Well I mean I like being rooted, but I can't seem to find a decent looking ROM that I like. The one I'm using now is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799679&highlight=droid+incredible+rom and that's the closest one to stock that I can find. I just prefered the stock look over the ROMs I've seen.
I'm about to flash the MIUI because it looks amazing, but do you have any suggestions for decent looking ROMs?
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Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.

Thanks, I'll revert to that if I don't like MIUI. Do I need to do anything special before flashing MIUI?

nope, everything needed for any rom you flash will be included with the rom and installed along with the rom when you flash it.

Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?

g00s3y said:
Thats all about preference, some people like a stock looking rom, others like a highly tweaked rom.
skyraider 3.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Check out that rom for a stock look but with many customization options so you can make it how you want basically.
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it's exactly like how he puts it, it's all a matter of preference. What you like might not be what i like. There's a whole bunch of themes on top of the ROMS you use, so just take a while and go through each one until you find one that you really like. I prefer to the new sense roms and that's why i'm sticking with Uber Sense Rom. all a matter of what looks and feels good for you!

Meetii said:
Alright, thanks a bunch. I also have two more questions.
What's the difference between a ROM and a theme?
And what's a kernel?
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A rom is basically the base of everything, the tweaks in software and all of that is your rom. So to put it into perspective, it's windows 7. And what you have with themes is the overlay that goes over that. If you prefer a black overlay, if you prefer your start menu somewhere else, everything can be changed according to how the developer feels like. Some developers primarily do ROMs, others do themes, rarely do any do both.
A kernel is harder to explain, if i had to think of a way to relate it to computers, it would be the equivalent of BIOS. It gives you tweaks in speed and battery life. With a properly done kernel, you're phone will have a LOT more battery life, and have faster speeds. Now, not all people's phones react the same way to kernels. What kernel works for me, might not work for you. The kernel i use might give me days of battery life, while when you use it, it might end up giving you hours of battery life. Everyone's phone reacts different, there's no universal kernel that works best for everyone.

Thanks guys, I really like the MIUI theme so I'm going to stick with it. I don't think I'm going to mess with kernels though. Being that I don't want to mess up my phone again.

if you find that you want to flash a kernel later, it's pretty simple. Download the file, then flash like you would a rom, pretty simple haha.

Slight issue...
On the MIUI ROM, I downloaded a theme with the application it came with for downloading theme. After doing so, I went to install it on said application and now it's stuck on the MIUI booting screen and it's been about 15 minutes. Should I unplug the battery...or what?
EDIT: Problem solved.

[Q] Best Customizations for Rooted Incredible with Stock Rom

I have an Incredible that I have rooted with unrevoked. I rooted it after I received the ota update with froyo and have done nothing else. I have yet to put a rom on since I really don't want to download and install all of my apps again and tweak my preferences. All that being said I want to do some things to customize my phone and have read about other ways to customize with roms, what things am I able to do? Here are some of the things I would love to be able to do to my phone:
Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something?
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.

Android314 said:
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Color Notification Icons - Is there a way? I tried one months ago and my phone crashed so I had to do a nandroid restore.
This is easiest to do using CM6/7 and applying a theme pack
Change Lockscreen - Is there a way I can change the slider? Different color or something
> Not many customizations have been made to the HTC lockscreen. You can find a few metamorphs for VANILLA lockscreens to make it look like the Droid 2 / R2D2
Blue Theme - I'd love to change all the places that are green to blue, such as when dialing or navigating around on the phone.
> I use the Galaxy S theme for CM6, this did a pretty good job of the blue theme
Is there anything else you guys have done to your Incredible that sets it apart? I really love to customize and tweak things to make it my own. Thanks for reading and helping out guys.
Minimalistic Text Widget & Launcher Pro are your friends
I also LOVE sonnysekhon's themes for CM7.
Good luck, have fun, nandroid, rinse, repeat
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Forgot, you aren't deodexed.... you really need a custom rom to be able to theme. If you want a stock sense you should look into virtuous... its pretty much stock, looks stock but is still custom. Then you can flash themes on it.....

A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?

Try flashing virtuous without wiping data, just wipe caches. like I said before, that's pretty much a stock sense rom. You should be ok and not need to re set up your stuff. If not, restore nandroid.
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Android314 said:
A little off topic, but since I want to learn...
What exactly is deodexed? I remember moving *.odex files from system apps I didn't want after I rooted.
And that's a bummer, I'd hate to have to install all of my apps again after flashing to a new rom. I have looked at both Virtuous and Vanilla in the past but didn't want to deal with all of the extra work afterwards. I'm unsure what CM6/CM7 is, I'm about to google it.
Is there anything I am able to do besides what I've mentioned?
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If your main concern about trying out ROM's is having to re-download all of your apps, I have an app for that
Titanium Backup
Super simple. It lets you back up the apps you downloaded. Here's what you do:
1. Download Titanium Backup from the market
2. Individually back up your apps using Ti - WARNING! DO NOT BACK UP SYSTEM DATA. Also don't back up Gmail/Maps/anything stock that's going to be in the new ROM. Titanium shows items in red that you shouldn't back up, so it shouldn't be too hard. Rule of thumb: if you downloaded it yourself, back it up, if not, stay away
3. Download your new ROM and put it on your SD card
4. Wipe
5. Flash new ROM - FYI CM7 stands for "CyanogenMod 7" which is a really popular AOSP ROM
6. Sign in with your Google account/Facebook/etc.
7. Download Titanium backup > Batch > Restore apps
You're going to have to click "Install" for every app you backed up if you've got the free version, the paid one does it for you.
You're also going to have to do your other tweaks (ringtones, autorotate, etc.) manually as Ti can't do that, but I think it's well worth the initial time investment to get a better/faster/more customizable ROM
TL;DR: Titanium Backup backs up your apps. If you want customization, you need a new ROM. If you want Sense, SkyRaider 3.5 or Incredibly Re-engineered 2.3.1 is best for customization (both have blue themes available), but Virtuous gives you the most "stock" feel. If you want AOSP, can't do much better than CyanogenMod7 for theming
EDIT: In response to your original post...
Colored Notifications are only going to work on a deodexed ROM (aka Virtuous/SkyRaider) - there is a rooted/deodexed stock ROM floating around that rmk40 posted (he also created Virtuous)
WidgetLocker is a paid app that can change your lockscreen - and here's a really popular app on modding the stock options it gives to your liking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825553

Cyanogenmod7 or CM7 is basically one of the most badass roms available, it's not only the newest of the cyanogenmod series but it's also built off of android 2.3 Gingerbread, so no having to wait for the actual legit GB release like everyone that's not rooted. If you want to see it in action look for it on youtube, otherwise to learn about it go to cyanogenmod.com or cyanogenmod.com/forums, everyone there is very helpful. I am running the RC1 of CM7, there is a few nightly builds after that so far but I'm just gonna stick with the first release canidate until RC2 hits.

I'd say the main reason I rooted was to try out different ROMs. I know you said you want to leave all your preferences and apps untouched, but I quickly got over that. I got all my contacts organized in GMail so that they sync every time I flash a new ROM. Each ROM has different preferences to play around with. For apps, I realized what I needed to do was just choose a few really important ones so I wouldn't have to spend all day setting up my apps for each new ROM.
I'd recommend doing a nandroid backup in recovery and trying out a few different ROMs. Try MIUI and Cyanogenmod 7, they're great. When your done you can restore your nandroid backup and get back to exactly where you are right now.
If you decide you want to stick with a new ROM, you can use Titanium Backup to restore your important app data, like someone else pointed out.
Once you're rooted there is a whole new world of opportunities...have fun!

Ok you guy's have got me very interested now. I think I want to move forward now! That cm7 looks great and I'd love to move to gingerbread. I was curious since this is the nightly beta release if I could later get the updates without flashing a rom again and restoring my apps. I had also heard I would have to flash more files like the radio after the install too. I'll have to read more on this.

Use Titanium Backup for all your apps and their data where you can put them all back on your new ROM.
You can do a full backup via Clock Works so if you don't like the new ROM or don't want to deal with any more of this new stuff then you can revert exactly to where you were before.
> For the lockscreen you can uninstall the lockscreen and then the default android one will be there.
To change the main look and feel you can try Launcher Pro from the market. It's pretty sweet. I use it with my custom ROM just because I love the cube transition and how you can hide a lot of the useless apps in the app drawer.

If you dont want to load a custom rom but would like to just theme there is a deodexed completely stock rom around here that will give you that option. All you need to do is flash in recovery and since you are going from a stock rom to another stock rom you do not need to wipe/clear anything so all of your apps and settings will remain intact.

you can consider just flashing skyraiders 3.5 and then not doing anything fancy. It's very close to stock with little improvements around so you might find that to be a good start.

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions guys. For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it. I am looking at LauncherPro now and thinking of checking out ADW. I've watched some different videos on both, which do you guys think is better?
I also did one mod I'm happy about, I changed the market app to the themed "Black Market" with the different icon and appearance. I think I am going to look for some transparent apps next to do something different. I with there was more I could do with my stock rom, it sucks not being deodexed. Anything else worthwhile to look into?

Android314 said:
For right now I think I am going to wait for a stable release of CM7 before I flash a rom. I really want Gingerbread but not an unstable release of it.
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CM7 is incredibly stable for only being at RC1....
I use it everyday now (Occasionally flashing something for fun) and I have NO problems with it.
If you flash CM7 RC1 you won't regret it. Just my two cents.

How long would anyone guess the final release will take? I think I am just going to keep an eye on it's progress and eventually switch. While it may be working well now I just feel uneasy about flashing that rom now, even though I can restore a backup. I'm having some fun now customizing my phone with Launcher Pro. I certainly like the customizable dock over the Sense dock. I'm trying to search for mods I can do with my non-deodexed rom but not too much luck. Thanks for the thoughts everyone!

I used to be like you so just as some insight from someone who remembers being where you are. Don't worry about cm7 rc1 or the newest nighlys, they're very stable. Although for a stock sense experience, one fun rom I've found to be fun and really have me flashing back and forth with cm7 is incredibly re engineered. With Chad's kernel its super fast, battery efficient and stable.
So ymmv but cm rc's are generally pretty stable. And incredibly re engineered is also a great choice
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ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!

Azag Thoth said:
ok i am a noob and just like the guy before i am rooted and using hydra oc kernal but stock rom froyo 2.2 and preaty much same reasons as the other guy for not flashing a rom yet. i think my main problem is just not quite sure of all the details yet. someone mentioned making a backup through clockwork i did that, chose the backup and restore option, but not sure what all this actualy backs up...everything? or just parts, and also little hazy on the kernel/rom workable combinations... how do you know which ones can be used together and which will brick or what ever may be the consiquencess, i only have had my phone little over a month, so i still working up my courage too. gained some today my wife's got same phone and had hers rooted with same kernel, and needed to return it cause having sms, and call issues. i was able to return hers to stock and s-on. so that really boosted my confidence, i know alot of it is just brute force reading to learn but i never was much on long reads, so i usualy read other peoples mastakes and not do that and try everything else in time... kinda of an ass-backwards way of doing it but does tend to cut down on the reading...lol so any tips you want to throw at me i am listening...
funny i just found that htc had a phone named Thoth, but i guess it was canceled or something...to bad liked the name...
well thank you all in advance!
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Check out the rooting guide here http://dimedroid.blogspot.com, some great info on backup & restore procedures
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[Q] HELP!!! how to get the new evo update with root...COMPLETE noob here guys

hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting

While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned

Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
Sent by Supersonic!

thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys

dmccoy516 said:
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.

Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
Sent by Supersonic!

Installing a Theme?

So, I recently updated my phone using QBKing77's guide [2.3.4 Gingerbread eh17]
Now, i was thinking about adding a theme to my phone but what i wanted to know was, after i install a theme, how would i be able to get back to my old theme? [gingerbread theme] if i didnt like the new one

Well, the way you would do it is by making a nandroid backup of your current setup (cwm > backup/restore > backup), and if you didn't like the theme you installed, you would wipe everything and restore your nandroid backup.
The only problem though that scares some people is that not all gingerbread nandroid backups restore correctly (sometimes they don't boot up)
Also, I don't believe EH17 has a 100% stock theme, so you'd have to be sure whether or not you wanted to flash a theme for EH17.
Not trying to scare you, just saying it can be a hassle if you don't end out liking it.

Lol i suppose i could wait and enjoy my new Gingerbread Rom... haha.
Thanks for the help, i do plan on flashing soon so i might as well ask now,
1. what is nandroid?
2. what is this.... (cwm > backup/restore > backup), <<<
Im fairly very extremely new to the whole living life on the edge with my epic

FPJ said:
Lol i suppose i could wait and enjoy my new Gingerbread Rom... haha.
Thanks for the help, i do plan on flashing soon so i might as well ask now,
1. what is nandroid?
2. what is this.... (cwm > backup/restore > backup), <<<
Im fairly very extremely new to the whole living life on the edge with my epic
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Well, I should ask, when you updated your phone, does it contain the SuperUser app? In other words, is it actually rooted?
If it is, than you will most likely have ClockWorkMod, an alternative recovery in which you can flash roms, themes, make/restore backups, and more.
I would highly recommend looking at a few more videos by Qbking about that. (for example, look up a video on how he flashes a theme or rom, and see what he does to help you get a better of understanding how flashing actually works.)
However, if Superuser is not present, then you lack both Superuser and Clockworkmod. I'm not sure if there is a one-click root for the Gingerbread leak, so if you aren't rooted, you'll most likely have to Odin a rooted version of EH17.
I assume you are rooted though, so ignore the last paragraph if that doesn't apply.
I hope this helps!
Btw, "nandroid" is just the way people refer to a backup/restore in cwm. No big deal.
P.S. Take this slowly. You do not want to rush and make a mistake. Believe me, I know it's exciting, but there are risks when doing this, so make sure you re-read everything and get a basic understanding of everything before you jump ahead.

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Well, I should ask, when you updated your phone, does it contain the SuperUser app? In other words, is it actually rooted?
If it is, than you will most likely have ClockWorkMod, an alternative recovery in which you can flash roms, themes, make/restore backups, and more.
I would highly recommend looking at a few more videos by Qbking about that. (for example, look up a video on how he flashes a theme or rom, and see what he does to help you get a better of understanding how flashing actually works.)
However, if Superuser is not present, then you lack both Superuser and Clockworkmod. I'm not sure if there is a one-click root for the Gingerbread leak, so if you aren't rooted, you'll most likely have to Odin a rooted version of EH17.
I assume you are rooted though, so ignore the last paragraph if that doesn't apply.
I hope this helps!
Btw, "nandroid" is just the way people refer to a backup/restore in cwm. No big deal.
P.S. Take this slowly. You do not want to rush and make a mistake. Believe me, I know it's exciting, but there are risks when doing this, so make sure you re-read everything and get a basic understanding of everything before you jump ahead.
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Thanks so much for being such an outstanding and helpful member =]

FPJ said:
Thanks so much for being such an outstanding and helpful member =]
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There's a thanks button, ya know...lol. I'm just messin'
And no problem. If you have any more questions, just PM me. I'm pretty active during the day I get home from school.

So i was talking to QBKing77 and he said after adding a theme, if i wanted to go back to gingerbread i just have to re-flash [basically re-install gingerbread to my phone the same way i did the first time] Now i just have to find a nice theme.

FPJ said:
So i was talking to QBKing77 and he said after adding a theme, if i wanted to go back to gingerbread i just have to re-flash [basically re-install gingerbread to my phone the same way i did the first time] Now i just have to find a nice theme.
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Yeah, that is true. The only reason why I didn't mention that is because I believe you would have to lose all your data when re-flashing? Not sure if you have to do a factory reset but I would assume you would.
For EH17 themes, I'd recommend maddoggin's theme that comes with the 6 lockscreen mod (there are screenshots but they are old and the theme has been re-done a bit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089073
Another fav of mine would probably be shane's honeycomb theme. It's absolutely amazing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227858

Honeycomb looks nice, i think i might just stick to stock for now though. Im trying to find a good clock/weather widget and some fun apps/widgets to use when im bored =/
P.S noticed you're from chicago! DA BEARS.

[Q] EL29 and Updating

I'm currently running GB El29 and am looking to update. I've done a lot of reading around the forum, the wiki, and a few other websites, and I'd just like a little bit of clarification. I figure I'd ask now, before doing anything, as opposed to asking later, after something's gone wrong.
Looking at the Wiki, I was considering updating to Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.6, or unrooting and then waiting for the Official ICS update (it was rerolled today, apparently.) Or, to Blazer, but I'm not sure if going to the ICS version or GB version is best.
My question - The process to update - Nandroid, Flash Format All, Flash Rom, Success? I've noticed a lot of installs say to "Wipe All", and I assume that's what Flashing Format All does, correct? I just don't want to mess up - I had no problems rooting, following that guide I mentioned, and I've done a lot of reading...I just want to confirm before doing anything. I mean, I know, wipe delvic and clear cache, but Format All does that, correct?
I rooted my phone using "How to Root Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch! [NEW][SPH-D710]" rom Epic4gtouchroot.com. I'd post a link, but I've fewer than 10 posts. All I've done, outside of root, is install the Beats sound files. That's really it.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

Read this 10 times over then you should be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
If you are interested in certin roms read threw the rom post to see if people have already answerd the questions you seek. Some devs request you flash different ways so read the OP in the post of the roms you are considering
UnOfficial

Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
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Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?

IceCatraz said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I was thinking that - Calk's topic was updated in May, while blukuban was updated in February. I mean, I can always try both, right? I'd like to go with Calk's first, then try blukuban, only because BK is heavily themed. But either way, thanks!
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I didn't realize the blukuban thread had updates outside of the OP. It was very recently updated. I might check that one out first.

Yes the blu kuban ics is always up todate and he is there for the people. If you want ics builds that are more stockish id aokp they have theming going on but is nice and stable. Read all of the op and there sites for correct install. Cm9 alpha 6 is also really good. Blazers rom is also really good. Those are all stockish built from source. For gb roms id go with either calks 3.0 or UnOfifcials ics gb rom. For me gb gives me most bang for battery and bandwith. Those last two roms are highly recomended. Calks is super fast stock with options for themes. Unofficial gb ics is themed lightly and is very good for battery and the animations are nice
UnOfficial

Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.

IceCatraz said:
Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.)
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Charge the bartery more. Use a wipe script dont touch the fomat that is built into the cwm while flashing a ics rom. If you use the wipe x2 script found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25448865
U should be good. It wipes everythings even both of the caches twice. If you already have a newer nandroid id just go with that instead of making a new one everytime you flash. If possible download the roms to pc check the md5 check sums make sure they match. If they match transfer to the phone. When downloading to the phone it has a higher chance of a bad download. I try and flash at 75% battery incase of error and you have to restore a previous nandroid. If you want read this post about the eMMc bug. Most roms are safe now but some are not current.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
Not trying to scare you with that last link you should know about it before hand so you know the dangers of flashing a non safe ics roms. If you have any more queations shoot. But i think your good to go
UnOfficial

One more thing. Qbking27 has install video guides for 90% of the roms in the threads of the rom. Id watch those before installing that rom you want. Some times they are buried in the op. You can use them as a step by step as you install. Best if luck to you and i want a report once you get your new custom rom on your phone.
UnOfficial

You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.

IceCatraz said:
You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.
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Just use the wipe x2 that does everything you need. Blu kubans gb rom is good but wifi is whacky. Id go with his ics build. Well your set good luck!
UnOfficial

Alright so, I installed it, and all is working well. It's actually a bit...erm, slow? Whenever I swipe from screen to screen on the homepage it's a bit laggish. But it works! I'll run around with it for a little while and see how it works. I'm in the process of reinstalling my older apps, updating my contacts and such.
Thanks for all of your help!
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A little worried, to be honest. Some of the apps I'm trying to install is giving me the "Package file is invalid" error off of the Google Market. Dropbox, Amazon, etc. Not sure what to make of it, to be honest.

Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
UnOfficial

juggalo1300 said:
Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
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Done. I cleared both caches, and so far, all of the problems I've had with the market is gone. (Dropbox didn't install on the first try, but it did after the second.)
I've replaced the default touchwiz interface with Launcher Pro (TW was running wicked slow - loads of lag with just basic scrolling) and it seems to be running well. And it's definitely saving on battery life.)
That being said, it's not really my cup of tea. I restored my contacts and such, but eh. I think I'll try UnOfficial, and if it's not better, either go back to el29 or update to official ics.
I'll likely keep this one until tomorrow. You've been such a huge help. Thank you so much.
Actually, with launcher pro replacing it, this is pretty good. I want to mess with it more. I'll run it for a few days and see how it fairs.

Ok wait before everyone leaves, Ive got some questions too!
I just got my replacement(after a hard brick trying JB) and figure Id ask my questions in this thread rather than starting a new one..
1. Ive decided to odin EL29 EVERY TIME I want to flash a new rom, just to be safe. If I use CMW with EL29 and decide to try out CM9, Do I always need to flash a aokp kernel? Or is that built into the CM9 install?
2. If I like CM9, and want to make a nandroid backup of it, do I need to Odin back to EL29 first to back it up? Or is it safe to do it with the recovery that comes with CM9?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, meaning I do have to odin back to EL29, how do I restore my backup? Let me explain:
Lets say I flash CM9, make a nandroid of CM9, then decide to try out say a different rom, like a TW rom. Then I hate the TW rom and wanna restore my backup of CM9. Do I need to ODIN back to EL29 to restore the nandroid? I read in the "how not to brick my..." thread its bad to restore a ICS rom from a GB Kernel. Can someone please explain?
Ive really, really tried to search and read as much as possible before asking, but a lot of the threads are old and have contradicting information. Sorry for being so noobish, but I dont wanna brick my new phone. I come from Evo, Evo3d, Hp Touchpad, etc, where there arent as many issues to flash customs roms. Ive rooted and flashed custom roms ever since the PPC6600, 100's of times and NEVER had a problem. Sorry, this just really confuses me for some reason!!!

Can't help you with CM9 or AOKP because I've never tried either one. The OP was talking about launcher pro. I highly recommend Nova launcher or Apex. They are both specifically built for ICS and look and act like stock android with great customization features.

Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.

IceCatraz said:
Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.
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I don't mess with rom tool box. I hear good and bad things about it. If you start at page 1080 and read to the end people post new system ui's but it may theme it a little bit. They have blazers UI in there and one other one I think. I'm not sure it is transparent or not. Or even make a post in the thread about it. I know its still active and you may find your answer. Sorry I can't really help you on this.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

Alright, cool. Thanks a lot. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that thread, would you? I've searched, and I'm a bit lost. Sorry for the trouble.