[Q] Am I running an old radio - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just rooted (went very smoothly) my HD for the first time.
I'm now running Revolution 5.1.4 and all seems to be well.
However i think I am running an old radio (12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.03.26_M)
Should I update the radio? Is there a 'one click' option to do this without re-installing?
Thanks

freestyle_gus said:
I've just rooted (went very smoothly) my HD for the first time.
I'm now running Revolution 5.1.4 and all seems to be well.
However i think I am running an old radio (12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.03.26_M)
Should I update the radio? Is there a 'one click' option to do this without re-installing?
Thanks
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There are newer radios, yes and I would highly recommend going for one of them.
You will need Radio S-OFF (and you should also get ENG S-OFF) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
IMO The safest way to change a radio is using Fastboot commands (a radio cannot be flashed like a ROM) but you won't lose any info.
Try the newest radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996630
and if that doesn't work for you, work backwards.

Mr_JMM said:
There are newer radios, yes and I would highly recommend going for one of them.
You will need Radio S-OFF (and you should also get ENG S-OFF) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
IMO The safest way to change a radio is using Fastboot commands (a radio cannot be flashed like a ROM) but you won't lose any info.
Try the newest radio - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996630
and if that doesn't work for you, work backwards.
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Thanks.
I think I already have Radio-S OFF and ENG S-OFF, so i will check out the radio links.
A Colchester man? My home town

freestyle_gus said:
Thanks.
I think I already have Radio-S OFF and ENG S-OFF, so i will check out the radio links.
A Colchester man? My home town
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Cool. Just checked the ARHD thread and not only does it include the same links he also recommends the same radio so hopefully you'll be good first time.
Small world.

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Will this radio work? Urgent help.

Hello
I am on T-mobile UK, its branded, with hboot 0.75.0000.
I have rooted it using unrevoked 3.21 RC.
I want to try LeeDrOiD v2.1, but it requires a new radio.
Its a GSM desire, currently on radio 4.08.00.09, if i flash this "32.47.00.32_5.10.05.23.zip", will it work?
Find the radio image you're on first, then just give it a go! If it doesn't work then you can always go back to the original one
Nickedynick said:
Find the radio image you're on first, then just give it a go! If it doesn't work then you can always go back to the original one
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Well I can't find the radio I'm on now, but what the hell i can just run the RUU, if i mess up :/
YAY IT WORKS
Jacob_K said:
Well I can't find the radio I'm on now, but what the hell i can just run the RUU, if i mess up :/
YAY IT WORKS
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Glad it worked out for you this time. But in future be very careful. Flashing a radio not intended for your device is very dangerous. It will make your phone an unrecoverable brick. An RUU would be useless.
On the other hand as long as you know the radio is for your device then all is well!
I suppose what I'm trying to say is, be careful with radios!

Hboot questions

So it seems as there is still some uncertainty in terms of updating to new hboot. Read some people lost root by doing so and read some were successful possibly due to having unrevoked forever installed. I updated to latest radio, wimax and nv already. Has anybody been able to downgrade the radio? I ask as it seems if downgrading is possible than unrevoked could be installed and then the hboot could be updated without losing root s-off. I appreciate any information and all your help.
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starkillers said:
So it seems as there is still some uncertainty in terms of updating to new hboot. Read some people lost root by doing so and read some were successful possibly due to having unrevoked forever installed. I updated to latest radio, wimax and nv already. Has anybody been able to downgrade the radio? I ask as it seems if downgrading is possible than unrevoked could be installed and then the hboot could be updated without losing root s-off. I appreciate any information and all your help.
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Why would you want to upgrade the hboot?
Was reading a few threads that suggest we should. I believe calkulin posted saying that he would update the hboot if it weren't for the fact that he uses fastboot commands during his development. Page 110 of his thread.
xHausx said:
Why would you want to upgrade the hboot?
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From what I've seen the new hBoots are all backward compatible, and as long as you have already ran Unrevoked Forever you *should* keep S-OFF, but the new hBoot has been particularly stubborn when it comes to abiding by the S-OFF. The extended commands on the eng-hBoot may not be very useful to most people but they can be very handy if something goes wrong and you manage to fubar your phone. So as long as you retain S-OFF or a custom recovery you should be ok using the 2.02 hBoot but I would wait awhile to find out more about ver 2.10. Especially if you plan on upgrading your radio.
I have already upgraded radio, wimax and nv and I don't have unrevoked forever installed . My hboot is the original with fastboot commands.
xHausx said:
From what I've seen the new hBoots are all backward compatible, and as long as you have already ran Unrevoked Forever you *should* keep S-OFF, but the new hBoot has been particularly stubborn when it comes to abiding by the S-OFF. The extended commands on the eng-hBoot may not be very useful to most people but they can be very handy if something goes wrong and you manage to fubar your phone. So as long as you retain S-OFF or a custom recovery you should be ok using the 2.02 hBoot but I would wait awhile to find out more about ver 2.10. Especially if you plan on upgrading your radio.
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I have 0.79, and as long as everything else is working, I don't see why it should be necessary to upgrade. And now that I've already updated all my radio's with the latest combo pack, I'm apprehensive about doing it anyway.
DarkAudit said:
I have 0.79, and as long as everything else is working, I don't see why it should be necessary to upgrade. And now that I've already updated all my radio's with the latest combo pack, I'm apprehensive about doing it anyway.
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Same here except I think I'm at even a lower version... 0.76
What would the point be to upgrading hboot to 2.02? It's one thing I don't really understand all that well.
Anyone care to explain?

Evo Unable to downgrade Radio Baseband

Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android:2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband:2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image,but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧!谢谢谢谢!
2.10.0001 radio is non-downgradeable on new hardware models.
Your phone has the new block size that is not compatible with the old radios and the remote not allowed error is because you are not using the eng hboot. Unfortunately it is not compatible as is either.
You can force it to downgrade and I believe I found a way to make it work with the new block sizes, but it's never been tested.
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
snandlal said:
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
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If it doesn't work though you're pretty much guaranteed to be bricked. But if it's a phone you're not worried about I've been dying to find out if this will actually work.
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
snandlal said:
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
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Right on, all you need to do is downgrade to the eng hboot from the hboot and before rebooting or doing anything set 'fastboot -n 4096'
That *should* let you use the eng hboot. You still won't be unable to downgrade your radio though, although afterward it may let you flash the old radios without so much as a warning.
Ok will do. Hboot usb or fastboot usb?
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
snandlal said:
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
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fastboot USB, as I previously said you will probably never be able to downgrade the radio. Sorry but that's just how it is.
Are you able to at least use your phone with the .76 hboot?
its weird.. there should be a way!!
wolfort said:
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android:2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband:2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image,but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧!谢谢谢谢!
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Instead of downgrading so far back, have you tried downgrading the baseband from 2.15.00.11.19 to 2.15.00.09.01? If not, give it a try. You can download it and all of the other EVO radios from the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
UPDATE: Disregard. The original post was dated April 8th.
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If i wanted to go back and try Android 2.1 roms, do i have to downgrade the radios as well?
Trying not to make a new thread but....say if I am using a 2.2 Rom with the 2.15.00.11.09 radio and I want to flash to a 2.1 rom(I'm talking bout far back as the rooted shipped stock ROM from last June. Would I need to downgrade my radio? And does that stock ROM already come prepackaged with a kernel. I'm pretty sure the kernel needs to be downgraded for it to be compatible. When I got my EVO in Sept, I was already on 2.2. Never tried 2.1 but have always been curious to try it and see how much worse it is. Then I could say I've finally tried all three versions of Android on my phone and how far we have progressed
As you've stated, the problem would not necessarily be the rom itself not working with the new radios, but whether or not the default kernel would work properly. Give it a shot. The worst that *should* happen is bootlooping. At that point, you can either reboot into recovery and flash a different kernel or downgrade the radio, PRI and NV. Of course, this is my opinion. You can download the rom from here . By the way, according to the descriptions on the shipped roms, the radios appear to be included.
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just read that i can't downgrade my radio because i'm running the 2.10 HBOOT and on HW003. but if downgrading the radio is not necessarily important to run a rooted 2.1 rom then i don't have much to worry about do i? also, those links you posted: i can flash those RUU's in recovery like i would any other rom? i don't want to go back to stock and be unrooted.
i was thinking of running the 1.32.651.1 rooted rom from Flipzmode, and if need to - download the appropirate kernel link next to it on the detailed ROM wiki thread maintained by Toast.
You cannot downgrade your HBOOT from 2.10 (not necessarily accurate) without a risk of problems, however, you can downgrade the baseband, PRI and NV. I've done it several times. I've downgrade from baseband 11.19 to 09.01. As well as upgrade to 04.08. I've also downgraded my PRI from 1.90 to 1.77 all while having HBOOT 2.10.
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i've downgraded my PRI because of the wakelock issues.
so you can downgrade the baseband to a certain extent? only within the 2.15 radios? but you cant downgrade to the radios that were on Eclair? if i can run 2.1 roms on 2.15 radios then by all means i'm going to try it out. thanks for the info doug

Worth upgrading HBOOT and Radio?

First of all, please accept my apologies if this has been in some way answered before. I did a search as far back as early 2011 but could not find a satisfactory response hence my posting here.
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading.
Many thanks in advance.
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I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
Sent from my iStone using a shoe.
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except his hboot is 0.80
revolutionary needs 0.93.001 or 1.02.0001 to work
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Then his only option is to use unrevoked?
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thanged losse
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.
fraxos said:
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.
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alot of roms these days do recommend the latest radio and the advantage of s-off is that u can change hboots for more space. if u click the all things root guide in my sig i think ul get pretty much all the info u need there.
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Many thanks for all the suggestions.
I have now updated to the latest Radio but still not sure about HBOOT and S-OFF. Since I am using JB which requires stock HBOOT, there is little advantage to S-OFF for me? Also, is there a quick way to upgrade just the HBOOT without having to install the offiicial HTC GB rom?
i wouldnt recommend upgrading RADIO ! had so many issues with different roms the last year after upgrading to the latest radio. Now I am back to the latest official radio that was delivered in Europe (5.11.05.27) and having no issues since then with ICS or any other roms.
I have the impression that some issues revolve from the newer 5.17.xx.xx radios being incompatible with some roms.
fraxos said:
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading..
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Why just not to install latest RUU - it automatically flashes new HBOOT and Radio.
About efforts - it's just allows to use modern ROMs.
May be a little improves quality, stability and battery time.
PS I haven't any issues with 5.17.05.27 radio
Dude... He got his answer. Stop reviving dead threads.
Sent from my toaster.

How to Radio S-off?

Hi.. I have a Rooted DHD but I wanna do Radio S-off as well. Is there any guide for this? I got this phone with a Custom Rom so I'm not sure which andriod it was shipped with.
Hi mate,
I believe this thread will answer your questions, I'm in the same boat thinking it may solve my random bootlooping issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
I'm a little out of touch with the Desire HD (previously had a Desire with custom ROM, Radio S-Off, etc. etc. that ran perfect).
Let me know how you go, interested to give it a shot myself.
Interested too, as currently I am unable to successfully boot up the latest 4.2.x ROMs!
me.noob said:
Hi.. I have a Rooted DHD but I wanna do Radio S-off as well. Is there any guide for this? I got this phone with a Custom Rom so I'm not sure which andriod it was shipped with.
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Use the guide and the thread in my signature. You will find all the information you need there. Just for precaution treat your phone as shipped with GB. It is not important with what OS it was shipped with, but what is running right now.
glevitan said:
Use the guide and the thread in my signature. You will find all the information you need there. Just for precaution treat your phone as shipped with GB. It is not important with what OS it was shipped with, but what is running right now.
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I know how to flash a new radio, I just wanna S-off my radio 1st b4 flashing a new 1. So basicially I'm looking for a guide to tell me how to S-off my current Radio.
As per my post mate - that thread links to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Which then links to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
The latter, being a one click radio s-off solution. Let me know if it works - pretty keen to attempt myself.
shifted-is said:
As per my post mate - that thread links to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Which then links to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
The latter, being a one click radio s-off solution. Let me know if it works - pretty keen to attempt myself.
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That is dangerous if your device is running or was shipped with GB version of android. Flashing the ENG S-OFF or a froyo Hboot will miserably mess your bootloader. If you are already S-OFF you can flash the modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit.
Use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Be careful as somebody suggested because you can end up with a brick. Read the manual included.
wachutunai said:
Use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Be careful as somebody suggested because you can end up with a brick. Read the manual included.
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Not the Hack Kit, but the options. If he tries to hack kit device again he will get stuck. By flashing ENG S-OFF he will not brick his device, but will have a big headache. To brick the device he needs to flash a wrong partition...
glevitan said:
Not the Hack Kit, but the options. If he tries to hack kit device again he will get stuck. By flashing ENG S-OFF he will not brick his device, but will have a big headache. To brick the device he needs to flash a wrong partition...
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You are right, the last time I used the AAHK did not include an option to flash an ENG S-OFF hboot :angel:
wachutunai said:
You are right, the last time I used the AAHK did not include an option to flash an ENG S-OFF hboot :angel:
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That is because the tradicional ENG S-OFF had issues (severily messed) with the bootloader and put it in superslow motion. After a while the Hack Kit included a modified ENG S-OFF compatible with GB shipped devices...saves a lot of headaches
hmm
Thanks 4 ur replies guys. My DHD is Rooted with ENG S-OFF, I just wanted to flash a newer Radio to see if it gives better signal performance but I guess its too risky. I'd better not mess with this Radio S-OFF thingy .. Dont wanna endup with a brick ..
@glevitan - so with the Ace Hack Kit we can attain ENG S-Off and Radio S-Off?
How do we know if our device originally came with Gingerbread or Froyo?
Pretty keen to flash radio (constant drop outs) and give it a go, don't want to do the wrong thing though!
Edit: Ace Hack Kit - is it 1 step Radio S-Off, Eng S-Off etc.?
And can still flash through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324 regardless of Radio S-Off?
shifted-is said:
@glevitan - so with the Ace Hack Kit we can attain ENG S-Off and Radio S-Off?
How do we know if our device originally came with Gingerbread or Froyo?
Pretty keen to flash radio (constant drop outs) and give it a go, don't want to do the wrong thing though!
Edit: Ace Hack Kit - is it 1 step Radio S-Off, Eng S-Off etc.?
And can still flash through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324 regardless of Radio S-Off?
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Yes, the Hack Kit lastest version will flash ENG S-OFF, but it is not the tradicional ENG but a modified one to work with all devices regardless the Android version they were shipped with.
I guess that currently doesn´t matter what version was your device shipped with but the one it is running at the moment. Mostly all devices have been updated and so have the bootloaders, so the risk is for all the people who actually updated. The best is to treat your device as shipped with GB always just to avoid a headache.
You can always flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way, that it is the safest. Always make sure that you check the md5sum of the file and that the radio is for your device, as stated in that thread. You are S-OFF if you used the Hack Kit some time ago, but ENG S-OFF if you did it in the last year...If you are just S-OFF (check what it says in the hboot top left corner), you can flash the ENG S-OFF from the HAck Kit options.
I always flash radios in the PD98IMG way, safest thou not faster.
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Maybe I'm missing a step there?
It says "parsing", and the radio doesn't update :-\
Then the phone boots in safe mode...
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shifted-is said:
Maybe I'm missing a step there?
It says "parsing", and the radio doesn't update :-\
Then the phone boots in safe mode...
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If the file is parsed and you are not prompted to update, then your sdcard might be corrupted (have you tried using a different one?) or the file is not named PD98IMG.zip correctly.
Ill try a different SD card,
The name of the file is IMG not 1MG yes? I named the file correctly, inside the ZIP archive is just the radio.img file.
Not sure why it did that, before it says parsing it comes with PD98DIAX or something and "no file found" then it lists PD98IMG and parsing.
Unfortunately I havent had much luck with this phone
I remember the Desire being a similar radio update process.
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shifted-is said:
Ill try a different SD card,
The name of the file is IMG not 1MG yes? I named the file correctly, inside the ZIP archive is just the radio.img file.
Not sure why it did that, before it says parsing it comes with PD98DIAX or something and "no file found" then it lists PD98IMG and parsing.
Unfortunately I havent had much luck with this phone
I remember the Desire being a similar radio update process.
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inside the zip you should have the img file and a .txt file, otherwise it won't flash
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Ah I see, well the txt file is missing - ill have to check the radio thread again to see what the go is as I downloaded the radio zip archives from there.
Thanks!
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