[Q] Unable to root\unroot after 1.84 update - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

it seems I got a firmware update sometime last month, and completely forgot I had used visonary+ previously.
My phone was bought without CID, now it has been branded, to which network I have no clue but I assume t-mobile as I used it in the USA when visiting.
I thought nothing of it until now as I am trying to change to the ACE Gingerbread rom official.
So I built a goldcard which does not change the CID, I am unable to run visionary+ or any similar app to temp root.
I am however able to use the adb root, but using root checker, it still says it is not rooted.
I am just dumbfounded, I want to down grade my phone, so I can upgrade again, or just upgrade.
I have gone through all the tutorials for all the different methods and I always come back to the CID warning when flashing.
Gold card fail
Rooting fail
upgrading fail
downgrading fail
Used gold card tool fails
used hxd successfull to make a gold card, but fails.
Anyone can give me some feedback or suggestions?
Thanks.

Taking this one step at a time, you need to downgrade. To do that you need a gold card.
Not a 100% sure from your post so please clarify if you have been able to successfully create a gold card?
After that, get an early ROM and install with goldcard inserted.
Let me know when you get to that step.

I found the issue. I had made the gold card, however the sd card I was using had a bad sector in it, causing it to not read.
After trying a second micro sd card, the downgrade worked. and now it flashed and updated properly.
Thanks!

Yea, I had follow topic on xda and successful downgrade.

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G2 on t-mobile rooting problem

Hi guys
I have tried every guide on xda website. such as
adb (permission: denied)
fastboot (acess: not allowed)
flashrec (could not flash )
and
goldcard (permission denied)
please help, I have spent lots of time checking all the driver are right and followed the instruction dozens of times.
must be a way out please help
thanks
try theunlockr.com and just search for how to root your HERO in one click. I have used that site to root my HTC Magic and my friends Magic, as well as my own HERO and my friends HERO. Very helpful.
(Im sorry to the admins if i am not allowed to post outside links)
What went wrong with the goldcard method? Thats a hardcore way of rooting so its strange for it not to work...
Double check your creation of the goldcard! I found the method at http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/18/how-to-downgrade-your-htc-hero-so-it-can-be-rooted/ worked perfectly for me. Though I did have some trouble with RUUs, try a couple and see which one works for you. I forget which one worked for me in the end.
Aleks
Yeh i gotta say, my G2 on T-Mob was abit of a pain, but i managed to root it using the gold card method, using the stock MSD that came with the phone, i didnt even have to use a MSD>USB i just mounted it using the phone.
What OS are you using, i managed to do it on wXP, though if you are using Vista+ then MAKE SURE that you are using Run As Administrator!!! Else it will fail!
Edit:
I forgot to mention, i dont know why but it took 3 times for the root to actually take, i dont know why, the first 2 times, i rooted the phone, isntalled the WWE HTC Rom, then flashed a new bootloader all fine, then installed a custom rom, i think MoDaCo first (i cant remember i have flashed too much over the past week) but for some reason the SU wouldnt work, though i dont think this is what solved it, it was probbly me being stupid, but i flashed my bootloader again, and it finnaly worked, personally i would recomend RA's Rec Image link saved my a** a few time
Also the Howto in the Wiki of this site is good Link
I tried 3 different micro sd cards before i managed to get the goldcard to work. The card than came with did not work for me so id suggest trying it again with a different sd card. The one that finally did work for mine was a 16Gb Kingston one.
Goldcard works a treat
Just make sure you do it in the right order.
Do the SD Card hack and then downgrade to the HTC hero rom linked in the Gold card thread once thats installed then you can use flashrec.
The HTC Hero ROM downgrade is the most important if thats not done flashrec will just keep failing.
So
1) SD Card hack
2) HTC Hero ROM downgrade using the RRU on the Gold Card thread.
3) Install Flashrec (goto the flashrec thread linked at the bottom of the gold card isntructions)
4) Install Recovery ROM
5) Copy the ROM you want to your SD card.
6) load into boot loader (Hold down home while turning on and hold it until bootload starts)
7) Do a WIPE
8) Load new ROM from SD card.
hi guys thanks for all the suggestions,
with goldcard, am able to run through the whole process but at the end I can not flash new Recommended ROM
any suggestions
I had the same problem on the T Mobile G2....
First off the MSD card i was using caused problems, but the stock one that comes with the phone works fine.
Then i ran into problems flashing the rom that the tutorials provide. So i downloaded a whole bunch and it was trial and error until i found one that worked. It's strange how some people find it works as per the tutorial, and others have to try different RUU roms...
Good luck!

A unique USB brick

Someone I know has gotten their Desire USB bricked. Normally that's a non-issue but there's a few erm... complications.
Here's how it occurred, they have an O2 branded Desire but somehow they managed to get the Android 2.2 update (No one else with an O2 Desire got it btw). As you'd imagine it caused quite a few issues, it apparently got to 80% then restarted went to 33% and then restarted. Now it's USB bricked.
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 has no effect meaning we can't SD card access
The current ROM has a Froyo version number and is very very unstable. It crashes after about 2 minutes and then reboots.
It's HBOOT 0.80 at the moment (Despite the OTA 2.2 update being HBOOT 0.92???) and using the HBOOT 0.80 rooting package I cannot get Step 1 to successfully execute. It gives error 41: remote id failure.
How to get back to older ROM after FROYO update messed everything up
Same issue here. I have an orange branded htc desire which I debranded, then updated to 2.2 Froyo without a goldcard and now have a bricked phone. No access to SD, Wifi, GSM, Force closes all the time, and reboots every couple of minutes in a loop.
Running update in recovery mode doesnt work, neither does running Stock RUU files on different versions with goldcard in phone.
Hboot is 0.80, 2.2 showing as installed. Unsure what to do next really, any suggestions would be great, there must be loads of people who have this issue now...
more threads here on similar issue, replace xx with tt
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741474
and
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741672
I had the same issue. Virgin UK phone. Used a zip version of the OTA Froyo and got stuck with it looping.
To fix it I created a new goldcard in my girlfriend's phone and used the same zip file on the goldcard to flash from the bootloader.
My phone has not been rooted.
Hope that helps and good luck.
pjfriend said:
I had the same issue. Virgin UK phone. Used a zip version of the OTA Froyo and got stuck with it looping.
To fix it I created a new goldcard in my girlfriend's phone and used the same zip file on the goldcard to flash from the bootloader.
My phone has not been rooted.
Hope that helps and good luck.
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I thought Goldcards could only be created in the phone you plan on using it in? I can still manage to create a goldcard using my phone, so maybe I have a different issue.
PS where did you get the OTA Froyo update?
Why u dont try?
http://www.unrevoked.com/#desire
This installs a custom Recovery but i think u need a Sdcard.
If yes call the devs for help if they could patch it that it runs with DataPartition or something else. If u have Hboot 0.80 Unrevoked works! 100%
Mines the same.....unfortunately I don't have access to another Desire, and none of the so called fixes work......I'm on Orange and this update has well and truly shafted my phone,now I have the most expensive brick in the house.....get in!
The problem you have is your sd card is not recognized so unrevoked doesnt work and neither does 'enabling' your sd card via adb devices....its all crap
I created my goldcard in an HTC Tattoo which worked like a charm. I used the sticky post at the very top of the development section for instructions. Once done I copied http://liveimage.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8-1.21.405.2_release4dua3bcrut4wrv30.zip to the SD card and renamed it to update.zip. make sure windows doesn't change it to update.zip.zip
I then installed it from the bootloader.
So all I really need to do is create a goldcard and it should work for him?
I'll tell him to give that a shot. It would be impossible to create a gold card with a proper CID though because as we all know ADB doesn't work with USB bricks.
abc27 said:
So all I really need to do is create a goldcard and it should work for him?
I'll tell him to give that a shot. It would be impossible to create a gold card with a proper CID though because as we all know ADB doesn't work with USB bricks.
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I used this http://www.roothtchero.co.uk/goldcard-2
There's a tool to create a goldcard linked in the guide. Made it very easy. I'm really no expert but I think the cid isn't dependant on the phone, just the card. I couldn't get it to work in a card reader but was very straight forward when it was connected to the pc through my girlfriend's Tattoo. Didn't cause any problems with me using 64 bit windows 7 either.

[Q] Bricked HTC Desire after installing OTA 2.2 Update

Hi,
I'm new so please excuse any of my stupid questions.
I have an unbranded, unlocked HTC Desire, in Australia, apparently it was a t-mobile device. Being naive I didn't realize this could create issues with OTA updates - I know now though! I don't think it's rooted, but wouldn't know the difference. There are no telco logos etc.
My desire got stuck in a rebook loop when I installed the OTA update to android 2.2. It seems to me the update hasn't completed. I finally got restarted after removing the battery.
In about phone it says I have:
Android 2.2 installed
build 3.13.720.1 CL233262
Baseband version 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2
Kernel 2.6.29.0cb9f166
I have
HBOOT 0.82
RADIO 4.06.00.02_2 if that's relevant.
The phone won't recognize my sim card or SD card and gets an error when I try to turn on wifi. For added joy it frequently force closes.
I tried to do a factory reset but it never seemed to complete. Then I turned on with vol down + power and did clear storage. It removed my data but didn't otherwise help.
I gather from reading various forums that I need to go back to the 2.1 version?
Do I need a goldcard to do this? How do I make one?
How do I know which file to use?
Is there anything else a newbie needs to know so I don't make a bad situation worse?
Thanks!
I think you should first downgrade to 2.1.
Also you are going to need a Goldcard, but i don't
know if you can make it without the phone working properly.
Try to find and install branded RUU in order to make the phone work and then proceed with making the goldcard and debranding.
Thanks for the links!
I'll take a deep breath and have a go. Looks like I'll need to get a microSD adaptor first.
It's better to start by searching a branded RUU suitable for your phone. At this point your phone's SD slot is unusable so you won't be able to make the goldcard.
IMO sd adapter is not needed, you might use the phone as a card reader (assuming that you have installed the branded RUU).
So I don't need a goldcard to install the RUU?
No but it has to be 2.2 and branded. I think it is also safe to try to install previous versions if you are not able to find a 2.2 RUU. Don't forget to check tel company's site, here and here.
I'd recommend you root the phone (no goldcard required) and install a custom rom (mine will work). That will get the phone running normally again, then you can create a goldcard and run official unrooted software if you want.
teppic74 said:
I'd recommend you root the phone (no goldcard required)
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SD card is required so you are going to need a card reader, as you can't use your phone at this moment. Or you can try unrevoked.
The r6 root method is obsolete now, and shouldn't be used. unrevoked3 might not work, it depends on how far the upgrade got before failing.
How would I root the phone? Do I use the usb cable and run a file?
If I shouldn't use unrevoked where can I find one I can safely use? It's all new to me.
Unrevoked is what you should use. You need to enable USB debugging and run the file.
If it works you'll end up in custom recovery, where you can install a rooted ROM.
I was downloading an RUU from TMO, but it was taking forever so I guess I won't be doing anything until tomorrow when I have a faster connection.
If you have an SLCD screen then running that is really not a good idea.
OK. So do I copy the custom ROM to the SD card before I root the phone or do I run it on the PC as well?
Yeah I don't think I have an SLCD screen, but would rather not take unnecessary risks.
Yes, you'll need the custom rom on the sdcard so will need to copy that separately. Unrevoked3 runs on the PC/Mac. If you have no card reader it's possible to upload the rom to the sdcard while in recovery, but it's a bit fiddly.
If you're certain you have an AMOLED screen then the t mobile RUU should work.
My phone came in July so I think it's AMOLED.
Looks like unrevoked3 is down at the moment with a redirect to unrevoked2.
I should be able to get the ROM on the SD card with a friend's non-android phone. Do I need a goldcard though as that may be a problem with my phone down.
Just follow the link to download version 3.14 (it's still unrevoked3).
No goldcard is needed to root or install a custom rom.
OK. Thanks for your patience! I guess I need to rename the ROM update.zip as I've seen mentioned elsewhere before I save it to the SD card.
I'll give it a go and post the results once I'm done , tomorrow I hope
You don't need to rename it. That's just for stock recovery. In custom recovery you get a basic filemanager where you can select the file.

please help me achieve root ive tried everything!!

hi, ive been trying to achieve root with unrevoked for the past 3 days, but i cant do it.. ive been able to (according to unrevoked 3.21) achieve root.
but in Hboot it says that i am not nand unlocked.... (i do have root to an extent because superuser is installed and busybox does say i have root although i cant install it)
so i also tried using unrevoked forever, but that gives me an error saying: unsupported system...
any details u need i will give you, please help..
stock desire, latest update.
thanks in advance
supa.
You won't necessaily have s-off, or nand unlocked, it depends on what phone you have for this to work using Unrevoked. There are other methods available if you wish to do this.
Have you actually tried installing an app that requires root access, like Setcpu or Titanium Backup, to see if it actually works?
I got an htc desire a month ago and got errors when I tried rooting with unrevoked. It turned out the hboot version was too recent (0.93) so I had to downgrade to 0.83 using this guide: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
It actually downgrades your phone to android 2.1 with Sense, but after that you can root your phone normally and then flash the Rom to any 2.2 Rom you want. It's a bit involved but the only way I could get root.
I wrote a quick guide for this before, which I'm reposting below. You can skip step 1 since it sounds like your phone is not branded.
Step 1:
Get an extra MicroSD card (2gig or whatever) and create a goldcard. You ONLY need this because if your phone is branded (eg. by a carrier... if any other names come up during boot, your phone is branded) and this is part of getting rid of that. If your phone is not branded, skip to step 2. Find out how here: android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/#entry1233023
Tip: you don't need an microSD card reader. You can format the microSD card in your phone by connecting your phone as a USB drive, and right-clicking the drive and formating. It MUST be FAT32 format, NOT FAT, so do it from the computer controls, not on the phone itself (because the phone itself does it in FAT format)
Step 2:
With your goldcard in your phone, you can now downgrade to Android 2.1. This kills two birds with one stone. A. It removes any branding from your phone and B. Lowers your hboot from higher versions to 0.83 which makes it possible to root your phone. Instructions here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
Tip: if it fails the first time (as mine did) and it can't find the zip file at the end, make sure your goldcard was FAT32.
Now your phone will be running HTC Sense 2.1 unbranded. The next two steps will allow you to put any of the Froyo versions (with Sense or without, your choice) on your phone.
Step 3:
Root your phone with UnrEVOked. Instructions here:
rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/general/howto-root-your-htc-desire-wildfire-evo-incredible-with-unrevoked/
Tip: His instructions are great. His download pages are horrible, but they work eventually, just keep clicking.
Step 4:
Install any of the custom Android ROMs available. Instructions are also found on the above link for rooting the phone.
You can choose from any of the ROMs listed here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I went with DeFroST, which is a nice Android ROM without Sense, since Android is better off on it's own, IMO.
Tip: If you don't have an MicroSD card reader, make sure you put the ROM's zip file on your MicroSD before you wipe your phone (Pt. 3, point 4 in the guide).
wow thanks for that..
my phone is rooted, i just want s-off.. but i have read that unrevoked doesnt work for gsm phones, which is what i have..
so i tried alpharev, which seems to be working for most people, but when i tried it using virtualbox, it tells me that i have a cdma phone, and to go back when i know what im doing or something like that..
i 100% have a gsm phone... why do i get this??
thanlks.
Download this:
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
Burn the image to a CD and boot your PC from it. Follow the instructions
All being well you'll end up S-OFF
as i said previously, ive tried that and it says i havent got a gsm phone when i do.
Dunno, ask them in their thread...
EddyOS said:
Dunno, ask them in their thread...
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lol, cheers anyway. i'm going to try booting from cd instead, see if that will make a difference..
That's what I said to do and you said you've done it!!
ive tried it again using virtual box and it seems to be working this time, i havent done anything different... dont know y it didnt work last night, neither the phone or the computer have been rebooted..
if all goes well u wont hear from me..
Why not just boot your PC from the CD? It's SO much easier
too lazy to pick up my ass to go buy cdrs, it worked anyway whoop!!
thanks.

[Q] Debranded, Downgraded, Rooted - Now how do I update?

So I've been at this one for a while, using information from various threads, getting things wrong, getting things right... now I'm at a loss!
Background
My Desire went faulty. I sent back to HTC. They sent me a new phone. It was locked. They sent me an unlock code. It was then unlocked. It was branded to T-Mobile. I didn't want that. So...
From what I can remember...
First, I flashed (I think that's the correct term) an unbranded version:-
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
I then accepted the OTA update from HTC so that I was on Android Froyo 2.2.
All was well.
I then got anther OTA notification about a week later (2.2.1?).
Downloaded and tried to install, but got the Red Triangle with Exclamation Mark icon.
I read somewhere that I need to Root the phone.
So I did the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, changing the HBOOT from something like 0.9x to 0.83.
Used Unrevoked to Root the phone.
Now I get an OTA notification to say that 2.2 is available.
But when I download and try to install, the phone reboots into Clockwork Recovery mode.
What I want
It's simple. I dont want the phone rooted. I want to leave the phone unbranded. I want to be able to accept OTA updates.
...All this was to simply try and debrand the phone, but wasn't expecting such a tough task.
Someone please help!
HTC don't brand their phones, only specific phone operators. If you didn't have any operator logos then you already had an unbranded handset. Having said that, you can't apply an OTA update to a rooted phone as it screws things up
What you need to do is download the 2.29.405.5 RUU and just flash that and you'll be fully up-to-date
Thanks for the info.
I am downloading the 2.29.405.5 RUU as I type.
Will this enable OTA updates in future or will I always have to manually update using this method?
If the RUU installs WITHOUT the use of a gold card then OTA will always work, if you need to use a gold card to flash that RUU then, at present, you'll need to do it this way each time
Okay, so I tried to run the update without a gold card, but got error 131. I presume this indicates that I need a gold card.
I have a gold card, but is there any way to ensure that the future OTA updates can be installed without having to use a gold card?
What else did the error code say? Pretty sure code 140 is wrong CID (need a gold card)
Basically, each phone has a vendor ID. This limits the phone to only install ROMs released for it. The gold card, when in use, masks this code to allow any ROM of any build to be installed. The gold card would then need to be used for all future updates as otherwise they fail
Something happened with the last unbranded OTA update - 2.29.405.5. Even using an gold card the update would fail. Seems Google have changed something to stop people flashing it who aren't truely unbranded
So, to answer your question - If you use a gold card to flash that RUU you MIGHT need to use an RUU each time in future as the OTAs may still fail. We won't know until the next one is released
The error code 131 is Customer ID error. So probably same as 140-CID, therefore I assume I need to use my Gold Card.
I will try using the Gold Card now whilst updating to see if this works ok.
It is disappointing... I wasn't aware that debranding your phone would cause all of these problems. The process was easy and the instructions didn't mention this as a potential downfall. I have my fingers crossed that the next OTA wont fail!
It's only the last OTA that failed, previous ones worked fine so long as the gold card was in use (the gold card can be used as a normal day to day card btw)
Thanks Eddy, you've been a massive help. Was tired of scratching my head for answers... I've been using my gold card as normal anyway so was aware it wasn't much of an impact to update manually... just a bit of a pain of OTAs don't work in future.
How do you know so much? Are you a developer?
I've had my Desire since the phone was released in March/April last year so have a lot of experience. I'm not a developer but I read a lot of threads and this was one that came up a lot when the 2.29.405.5 OTA came out. I do make my own ROMs but they're for my own use (I wouldn't wanna have it take up all my time changing for others!!)
Hopefully it won't be an issue in future OTAs but until one is released we'll never know
On a slightly separate note, can you recommend the best way to Root the Desire... is it using Unrevoked3? Or is this pretty much the only way? Cheers
These days unrEVOked is the only way

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