Nandroid question - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I haven't seen this question anywhere else, so forgive me if it's a noob question.
I was messing around with the MIUI rom, and it talks about flashing a different kernel.
I'm currently on Midnight Rom. If I were to nandroid backup that, flash MIUI, and flash a new kernel, when I nand back to Midnight, does it restore the old kernel too? Or do I need to do something different?

It should restore the old kernel.
Example:
Rom A has Kernel DEF
Rom B has Kernel XYZ
Flash Rom A, you have Kernel DEF. Nandroid backup. Data wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, flash Rom B. You now have Kernel XYZ. Data wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, nandroid restore Rom A. You are back to Kernel DEF.
Notice I mentioned wiping before each flash. It keeps things clean.

running_the_dream said:
It should restore the old kernel.
Example:
Rom A has Kernel DEF
Rom B has Kernel XYZ
Flash Rom A, you have Kernel DEF. Nandroid backup. Data wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, flash Rom B. You now have Kernel XYZ. Data wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, nandroid restore Rom A. You are back to Kernel DEF.
Notice I mentioned wiping before each flash. It keeps things clean.
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Thank you!

No it wont. Nand backups does not restore the kernel.
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musclehead84 said:
No it wont. Nand backups does not restore the kernel.
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Its this one.

NAND backups do NOT restore kernels, you're going to have to copy the kernel to your SD card.
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QUICK Q (CM6 to FRESH)

I'm using CM6 and want to try out FRESH.
I Nandroid backup (Which is through ROM MANAGER ??? )
how do I nandroid backup?
And once I nandroid backup do I full wipe / dalvik / cache then flash new rom right??
amirborna said:
I'm using CM6 and want to try out FRESH.
I Nandroid backup (Which is through ROM MANAGER ??? )
how do I nandroid backup?
And once I nandroid backup do I full wipe / dalvik / cache then flash new rom right??
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Install ROM Manager and flash ClockWorkMod recovery to your device. Then either reboot into recovery, select nandroid and perform your own backup, or select the "backup" feature within ROM Manager, which really just reboots and automagically does the nandroid backup for you.
Once backed up, save the fresh rom zip to your sdcard, reboot into recovery, perform a wipe of data, cache and dalvik, and then install the new ROM and radios as instructed.

[Q]ROM and Kernel Updates

Hey guys,
Still relatively new to flashing/upgrading ROMs. I have CM 6.1 and pershoots kernel flashed. If I want to upgrade pershoots from ROM manager, do I need to select the wipe/cache data option in order to upgrade? Does that mean I have to backup my sms, bookmarks, etc? Thanks in advance
Ok here's a brief breakdown for you.
When flashing KERNELS you only wipe cache and dalvik cache (can be found under advance settings.
When flashing ROMS you wipe everything , data/cache/dalvik.
Make sure you make a nand backup just incase you don't like the rom / kernel you've flashed.
As far as backing up sms and other things saved to your current rom, you wouldn't have to as your only flashing the kernel.
Now if your flashing to a new rom for example.
Flashing from CM to Virtous
Then yes you would need to backup all your sms and etc...
If your running CM and want to upgrade to a newer version of CM. I would usually just wipe cache and dalvik and flash ontop of current rom. No sms back needed. Unless you want to start from scratch and reload the rom fresh. Then yes backup your sms. Hope this helps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
thanks luis, I really appreciate your information, it was very helpful. What does wiping the cache/dalvik entail though? As in, would I see any noticeable changes by doing so or are the effects simply behind the scenes.
Wiping cache and dalvik cache just helps with the flashing of your new kernel or rom. Its the proper way to flash. I mean some people don't. I usually do and my flashes never give me much problems.
[G2/HTC Vision]
I have never wiped when coming from an older CM version. It is not necessary at all.
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[Q] How to install extra RCMixHD v3.0

Hi, I have installed RCMix HD, now how must I do to install extras?
Thank you.
Just like the ROM. Flashing the .zip files.
and this doesn't cause any damage to the installation, is it right?
No, it does not.
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Thanks a lot. And the kernel? is it important to install?
For install extras and kernel, must I even do:
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
wipe dalvik cache
?
DO NOT WIPE a thing... you'll have to Re-flash everything then.
Just Flash it as normally would. (However it depends on the extras - some people said that for the Power notification extra you need to wipe dalvik if it is NOT Working).
Kernel? If you are not satisfied with the stock RCMixHD kernel, then you can flash others, just as the ROM, no wipe.
and if would I delete extras after installing?
I'd wand delete Customizable personalize button...
aomegax said:
and if would I delete extras after installing?
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Make a NAND backup before you install something.
If you don`t like it, you can go back to the NAND backup.
Yagoozy said:
Make a NAND backup before you install something.
If you don`t like it, you can go back to the NAND backup.
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I have installed it without NAND backup...how can i delete it?
how do I do NAND backup? with ROM Manager?
Nandroid backup can be done via custom recovery (CWM or AMONRA).
Now you can't delete it, just if you do a full wipe and re-flash the whole ROM AFAIK.

CM7 Stuck in Bootloop

Edit: Still not fixed. Any help would be appreciated.
Hi all. I'm currently using MIUI and want to swith to CM7 for 2.3 and 4G. I've been on the Cyanogen forums but to no avail. I have so far tried the following...
1. Flash from MIUI to CM7 #8 through rommanager with wipe.
2. Flash from MIUI to CM7 nightly 8, 12, 17 through Clockwork with full data and cache wipe.
3. Flash from MIUI to CM6 to CM7 through clockwork w/ full wipe.
4. Flash Amons recovery in rommanager and flash from MIUI to CM7 nightly 17 w/ full wipe.
I am currently at a loss. Please throw any suggestions my way.
- Nick
What exactly are you wiping when you say full wipe?
Try flashing calkulin's format_all.zip, then cyanogenmod, then gapps, all within one recovery session (no rebooting/restarting between flashing each one)
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Try a full wipe, cache, dalvik, and data. Then reflash the rom.
By full wipe I mean data/factory reset, then wipe cache, then dalvik.
Trying Calkulin now. On Cyanogen forum someone suggested a different kernel. I've never flashed only just a kernel. Would I use the same method as flashing other zips?
That's correct, just wipe dalvik and cache before doing so.
So, I did the calculkin format all however I also did something different this time. I started to notice that it would only boot loop after I did a Titanium batch restore. I would normally restore all apps and system data. This time I only restored apps instead of system data and I can reboot just fine... for now.
Would this cause a problem? Restoring system data from a backup inside MIUI and restoring it in CM?
Edit: Now it's stuck at the white screen. Doing a nandroid backup and going to try some other fun stuff. Yay...
I use amon RA recovery and when I was stuck in a boot loop I would wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache, as well as wipe the system. That did the trick for me. Best of luck!
PS. Not sure of you can wipe system via clockwork mod, I used it briefly before I got aggravated and flashed a better recovery img IMO.
hTC Evo CM7-n17
You can do a full wipe in clockwork:
factory/data reset, and wipe cache from the main screen, then navigate to advanced and then wipe dalvik cache.
The reason I've been using clockwork is because I like using Rom Manager, but I'm not against Amon if it's the answer. Though, I've now tried it, and it doesn't seem to be.
I've been doing the wipes you're suggesting since the beginning. Those aren't doing it. I have a few ideas that I didn't try last night. Gave up after about hour 7 of trying different things.
My next experiment is to switch kernels. But I'm also thinking there could be a problem w/ my Titanium backup. I don't remember specifically, because I didn't notice it at first, but it does seem to only have a problem after I do a restore. Any thoughts on that one??
deaconzero said:
The reason I've been using clockwork is because I like using Rom Manager, but I'm not against Amon if it's the answer. Though, I've now tried it, and it doesn't seem to be.
I've been doing the wipes you're suggesting since the beginning. Those aren't doing it. I have a few ideas that I didn't try last night. Gave up after about hour 7 of trying different things.
My next experiment is to switch kernels. But I'm also thinking there could be a problem w/ my Titanium backup. I don't remember specifically, because I didn't notice it at first, but it does seem to only have a problem after I do a restore. Any thoughts on that one??
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Well amon_ra isn't the answer. I've used clockwork and had ZERO problems, and still use it. But if you think titanium is your issue, go into it, and click problems, and it'll download the busybox and correct itself. And if you think the kernel may be the problem, it could be, so go for it. Just make sure to use an aosp kernel on an aosp rom, and the same for sense; don't mix them.
Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on which kernel I could try? On MIUI my kernel is brandon-ThinkPad-T510 #5.
deaconzero said:
Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on which kernel I could try? On MIUI my kernel is brandon-ThinkPad-T510 #5.
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Well I would try the a froyo savaged zen kernel. They all play nice from what I hear.
No fix yet even after switching kernels. I found this link when I was looking up more info http://www.shahz.net/android/what-is-dalvik-cache.html and this section interested me.
"This dalvik cache can grow immensely huge as more applications are installed on your phone. It is safe to wipe dalvik-cache. It will be rebuilt again when the phone boots. This also explains why your phone takes ages to start up for the first time. As for my Nexus One, having about 145 applications installed, it takes about 13 minutes to build the cache"
Could this be what's going on? Is the dalvik cache being rebuilt and I'm not actually getting a bootloop? Do I need to let the blue arrow circle around the skating android for 15 minutes?
Still not working. Tried the kernel switch and the above idea of letting the boot screen run for over 20 minutes. Nothing.
Anyone w/ any thoughts?? Thanks.
Are you flashing the new kernel the same time you flash the rom. What you should do is wipe everything, factory/data, cahe, dalvik cache, then flash the rom. Give it a couple of minutes to boot up. After it eventually boots up, back it up, then flash the new kernel, just wipe the cache and dalvik before you do so.
deaconzero said:
So, I did the calculkin format all however I also did something different this time. I started to notice that it would only boot loop after I did a Titanium batch restore. I would normally restore all apps and system data. This time I only restored apps instead of system data and I can reboot just fine... for now.
Would this cause a problem? Restoring system data from a backup inside MIUI and restoring it in CM?
Edit: Now it's stuck at the white screen. Doing a nandroid backup and going to try some other fun stuff. Yay...
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Restoring system data through Titanium Backup is almost a certain recipe for disaster - especially when switching between different ROMs. Use TB only to restore user apps, and the data associated with only those apps.
The other thing you may want to try is to repartition/format your SD card. Make sure you back it up to your computer first, then use whatever recovery (I know Amon Ra will do it, think CWM will too) to partition and format the SD card. This helped me out when I was getting bootloops...
Good luck!
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I need help understanding amon ra recovery

Ok I'm a bit confuse with amon ra recovery. I recently did an nandroid back up with fresh Rom 4.0. Then I flash a new Rom which is omj Rom. So I decided to nandroid restore back to fresh and once done I'm stuck on the HTC logo for very long time. So I keep on wipe and restore over and over still same problem. So I went and reflash fresh again after that I went back to amon ra recovery and nandroid restore and it works. so I'm confuse about it. do I need to be on the same Rom to restore back? I can't restore back to different Rom?
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You can restore to anything that you have made a nandroid of, normally.
Just wipe everything in the Wipe setting, and I usually wipe dalvik and cache again, separately, then restore the nandroid you want.
TBH,m I have a nandroid of stock/rooted that I restore to before I flash any new ROM
culua said:
Ok I'm a bit confuse with amon ra recovery. I recently did an nandroid back up with fresh Rom 4.0. Then I flash a new Rom which is omj Rom. So I decided to nandroid restore back to fresh and once done I'm stuck on the HTC logo for very long time. So I keep on wipe and restore over and over still same problem. So I went and reflash fresh again after that I went back to amon ra recovery and nandroid restore and it works. so I'm confuse about it. do I need to be on the same Rom to restore back? I can't restore back to different Rom?
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Some people say it isn't necessary to wipe, but it seems like you may need to. Try wiping data, cache and dalvik then restoring next time.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I always tend to wipe a few times and always use the format_all.zip... which unfortunately I do not have a link to at the moment. Make sure you wire the cache and davlik-cache separately imo

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