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CM7 final bootloop

So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?

i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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KNguyen104 said:
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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Using the RomManager interface I chose to Wipe Data and Cache and also chose the gapps package to install. I guess I could try it again but I was mystified why it didnt work since I "thought" it was so simple.

If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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snowboarda42 said:
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?

Alpine- said:
I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
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No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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Alpine- said:
So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
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I had the same issue....although mine have been caused by restoring system data.
What I did is manually DL the rom, boot into recover, wiped cache/dalvic, flashed from zip (Both CM7 and the proper GAPPS file) and it worked.

eventer289 said:
No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.

Alpine- said:
nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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So wait, still getting the loops?

teh roxxorz said:
So wait, still getting the loops?
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.

Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.
What I started doing was booting into RECOVERY (i know it sounds scary but it really isn't) A little off topic but there is a great app that I think every rooted user should use, it's called: Reboot Control Widget It only costs a measly $1 in the Market but it's well worth it. Basically you put the widget on the desktop and click on it. You are then given the option to Reboot your phone, Hot Boot (fast reboot), boot into Recovery, Bootloader or Shut Down. Best dollar you will ever spend on an app.
So anyway, l strayed from my point. The problem you are experiencing is partially due to not having fully wiped your phones data/cache. I know you think you did it through the Clockwork app but from experience it doesn't work that well. There is a "flashable" file called Calkulin's Format All. It is in the DEV section posted in Calkulin's Rom section. It will clear everything except the contents of your SD card.
1. Boot into RECOVERY
2. find: INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
3. select the Calkulin's Format ALL.zip file (your phone will be totally clean after this)
4. Again, choose INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
5. Select the ROM you want to flash. (If it is a Cyanogen based ROM you will have to flash the appropriate Google Apps file after flashing the ROM. If flashing a Sense ROM the Gapps file is not necessary)
6. Flash Gapps file (Google apps if necessary)
7. Once this is done select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW
I feel confident that if you follow those steps you won't run into any bootloops!

I have added the Format All.zip file that I mentioned in my last post.
Little advice:
- take the time to do a Nandroid before flashing a new rom
- use Titanium to restore only the apps w/o the data. I know it's nice to restore everything the way you had it on the last rom but from my experience this has led to instability in the new rom. Also from my experience when you are on a SENSE rom and use Titanium to backup your files and data when you install a AOSP (like CM) rom and try to restore those files and data it won't even let you. Just something to keep in mind if you are switching between CM to Sense or vice versa.

Alpine- said:
I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
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Yes it should.
Manually wipe you factory/data, cache, dalvik, then flash the rom with the latest gapps and you'll be good.

SantinoInc said:
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.....
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?

when you use clockwordmod recovery to wipe your phone the dalvik doesn't wipe with the wipe option you see on the main screen, i belive you will see the option to wipe it in the advanced menu

Alpine- said:
Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
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They are the same. ROM Manager boots you into recovery and nandroids for you. People have mixed experiences with ROM Manager. From my experience it is best just to boot manually into recovery and take care of all your flashing and wiping there.
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[Q] Frozen Bootscreen - attempted change from LeeDrOiD V3.0.2 GB to RCMix S v1.3

Hi all,
Would really appreciate your help! I'm a nOOb and may have bricked my phone. I rooted and installed a LeeDroid Froyo Rom last year, updated this recently to LeeDrOiD V3.0.2 GB. I got brave today and attempted to change this to RCMix S v1.3 (Sense 2.1+3.0mix) but now my phone is stuck on the HTC Bootscreen.
The process I followed was the same as when installing LeeDroids ROMs:
I backed up my apps
Re-partioned my SD card - 512md using ROM Manager
Used ROM Manager to boot to recovery
Factory re-set
Re-installed ROM Manager
Copied the new ROM zip file to the SD Card
Used ROM Manager to boot to recovery
Installed the new ROM which installed correctly ("Congrats, successful installation, re-boot and enjoy ..." or similar word to that effect)
Re-booted
But now it's frozen on a permanent HTC logo bootscreen.
I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer, or a link to the solution if there is one that may have been requested and solved before, I've spent an age searching the forums but can not find a solution.
Thanks in advance,
Karl

sounds like you didnt wipe the dalvik cache.
I would drop the battery out, replace and boot into recover, wipe data factory reset, wipe dalvik and go for another install.
Can you confirm if you did the above?
edit: oh and i dont know if its made a differance but when i install a new rom, i transfer to the SD card then, wipedata, wipe cache and then install as opposed to booting the phone after wiping data

Before flashing you always have to do a full wipe.
Your systemdata and apps can backed up by Titanium Backup. The backup don't get deleted by the wipe. After flashing the new rom (and eventually re-downloading/re-installing Titanium Backup you can restore all systemdata and apps by "Menu>Batch>Restore missing systemdata and apps".
First tip for the future: Always make a complete nandroid before every flash. If there are problems with your new system, you a running system anyway.
Second: When go from sense-rom to a non-sense-rom (or reversed), you must not restore system data, only the apps. Otherwise there can be heavy problems with your system.

vis-tec said:
sounds like you didnt wipe the dalvik cache.
I would drop the battery out, replace and boot into recover, wipe data factory reset, wipe dalvik and go for another install.
Can you confirm if you did the above?
edit: oh and i dont know if its made a differance but when i install a new rom, i transfer to the SD card then, wipedata, wipe cache and then install as opposed to booting the phone after wiping data
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Cheers Vis-tec,
Yeah, it was the dalvik cache, I did exactly what you suggested and it worked perfectly. Never heard of dalvik cache before but wiping it did the job.
Thanks again,
Karl

MatDrOiD said:
Before flashing you always have to do a full wipe.
Your systemdata and apps can backed up by Titanium Backup. The backup don't get deleted by the wipe. After flashing the new rom (and eventually re-downloading/re-installing Titanium Backup you can restore all systemdata and apps by "Menu>Batch>Restore missing systemdata and apps".
First tip for the future: Always make a complete nandroid before every flash. If there are problems with your new system, you a running system anyway.
Second: When go from sense-rom to a non-sense-rom (or reversed), you must not restore system data, only the apps. Otherwise there can be heavy problems with your system.
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Thanks MatDroid,
Good tip about the system data when moving between sense and non-sense roms - I would have found that out the hard way for sure!
I know nothing about nandroid so I'll start reading up on it!
Thanks again,
Karl

Yekrallum said:
Thanks MatDroid,
Good tip about the system data when moving between sense and non-sense roms - I would have found that out the hard way for sure!
I know nothing about nandroid so I'll start reading up on it!
Thanks again,
Karl
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This thread might help to understand the technical definitions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805247

MatDrOiD said:
Before flashing you always have to do a full wipe.
Your systemdata and apps can backed up by Titanium Backup. The backup don't get deleted by the wipe.
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Another good tip, I assumed that the wipe would delete the back-up, or to be more precise, I was unsure where it backed up the data/apps to. So I uploaded to Dropbox using the Dropbox feature in Titanium Backup ... this takes an age so it's good to know that the backup doesn't get deleted by the wipe for future rom changes!
Thanks again,
Karl

Try using RaRecovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839621
It's the recommended recovery for RCMix S. I got stuck in splash because of CWM.

How would i go about changing too CM 7.1.0?

Hello i am currently on CM 7.03 and am wanting to change to CM 7.1.0.
Is there any way of updating the software without flashing the new ROM?
Also to update by flashing the new ROM do i just have to wipe cache and reset factory settings then run the zip from CWM?
Thank you for your time.

u only need to wipe cache and dalvik cache (only to be sure) and flash the update..thats all
no factory reset or other wipes are needed

So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)

Spezz Monkey said:
So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)
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yes and u will not lost any setting

Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.

Spezz Monkey said:
Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.
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you lose everything when u do a factory reset/wipe user data from the recovery
the factory reset/wipe user data is necessary when u change the rom (like going from a sense rom to cm7)
but when u just upgrading (cm7.0.3 to cm7.1) u dont have to factory reset/wipe user data..only wipe cache and dalvik
btw always do a nandroid backup before upgrading

NAND backup, flash the rom, flash the gapps. You might want to clear cache and dalvik-cache too. It shouldn't be necessary to wipe your data.

and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks

BlackMiracle said:
and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks
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That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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itachi1706 said:
That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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nice! thanks!

Installed CM 7.1.0 by just wiping the cache and dalvik and it all worked perfectly.

[Q] N00b updating Custom ROM

I have installed MildWild CM-2.7 on my Desire but there is now MildWild CM-2.8 and I can't find a guide how to install/update my Desire.
I have got S-OFF and recovery by Revolutionary The guide I followed to S-OFF and ROOT
This is the ROM I using. MildWild CM ROM

Just flash it via recovery like you did with the previous version

Will flashing the new version cause me to loose everything on my current version I.e apps and data etc??
Thanks for the reply though

do back up first, wipe davik+cache and flash it... it should work if not do full wipe and restore back up
just post any result we will move from there

What should I use to hackup TIbackup? Or is there a better one that you reccomend?
Wh000sher

Titanium and recovery. All basic stuff. Have a,read of my rooting faq in my signature. Tells you everything you need to know
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rootSU said:
Titanium and recovery. All basic stuff. Have a,read of my rooting faq in my signature. Tells you everything you need to know
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Do I only restore the Titanium I am guessing, as restoring recovery would revert back to my current ROM? and I have thanks

Yes indeed. With titanium, only restore "missing apps with data".
Theres a guide Angusc wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480343

ROM Manager can make updating so much easier - well worth the investment.

JohnHarrisNZ said:
ROM Manager can make updating so much easier - well worth the investment.
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I can't speak for other devices but for Desire, nope it's not worth the time and money.

kotag82 said:
do back up first, wipe davik+cache and flash it.
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So I'm only wiping the davik cahce correct?
Not anything else or have I missed something?

Wh000sher said:
So I'm only wiping the davik cahce correct?
Not anything else or have I missed something?
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Things I've learned with all this flashing that may be helpful for you.
1. Before flashing, always backup your current system up. nandbackup via recovery, titanium for your apps, sd card if really needed for that you need to do.
2. If flashing an updated version of same rom, wipe cache and dalvik only on your recovery (unless explicitly specified by dev to make a full wipe.)
3. If you are having weird issues after upgrading the same rom, do a full wipe and start fresh. If issue is not resolved, report the issue to the Dev's thread.
4. Do a Full Wipe on recovery (System/factory, cache, dalvik if coming from a different rom).

stankyou said:
Things I've learned with all this flashing that may be helpful for you.
1. Before flashing, always backup your current system up. nandbackup via recovery, titanium for your apps, sd card if really needed for that you need to do.
2. If flashing an updated version of same rom, wipe cache and dalvik only on your recovery (unless explicitly specified by dev to make a full wipe.)
3. If you are having weird issues after upgrading the same rom, do a full wipe and start fresh. If issue is not resolved, report the issue to the Dev's thread.
4. Do a Full Wipe on recovery (System/factory, cache, dalvik if coming from a different rom).
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Thanks for the reply.
In response to 2. I am using ClockworkMod as my Recovery and I am guessing you mean I have to wipe 'cache partition' and 'wike dalvik cache' under advanced?
I am creating a guide to help fellow N00bs how to update a rom and change between ROM's
Wh000sher

Wh000sher said:
Thanks for the reply.
In response to 2. I am using ClockworkMod as my Recovery and I am guessing you mean I have to wipe 'cache partition' and 'wike dalvik cache' under advanced?
I am creating a guide to help fellow N00bs how to update a rom and change between ROM's
Wh000sher
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Yes if I remember correctly there are the first three lines on that recovery is wipe system, cache partition (like you stated), and wipe dalvik. So if upgrading just wipe cache partition and dalvik cache.
System partition is where the "Android OS" resides. Wiping it is like formatting your computer. Most of the time, incremental updates of the same rom requires you to wipe just the cache partition and dalvik, otherwise if the rom update has a lot of changes, the dev might require you to wipe all three options on the recovery.

Having wiped my cache and dalvik cache. I am now wanting to install the new version. On the main screen I have 2 options which are tempting to click.
One is 'Apply update from SD card' and the other is 'Install zip from SD card'
I am unsure of which to choose but my gut instinct is to go with 'Install zip from SD card', is this correct or am i going to make a terrible mistake?
wh000sher

Install zip from SD

[Q] How to wipe phone before installing a ROM

When installing most roms there is an instruction that requires to perform a full wipe of your phone, how do I do that? I have arhd on my phone right now and wish to flash jdroids exodized, so can I just use the super wipe script from the arhd downloads before flashing exodized? Or do I need to perform a full wipe using some other method? I am new to this stuff so thank you for bearing with me

boobinator said:
When installing most roms there is an instruction that requires to perform a full wipe of your phone, how do I do that? I have arhd on my phone right now and wish to flash jdroids exodized, so can I just use the super wipe script from the arhd downloads before flashing exodized? Or do I need to perform a full wipe using some other method? I am new to this stuff so thank you for bearing with me
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did you try this?

boobinator said:
When installing most roms there is an instruction that requires to perform a full wipe of your phone, how do I do that? I have arhd on my phone right now and wish to flash jdroids exodized, so can I just use the super wipe script from the arhd downloads before flashing exodized? Or do I need to perform a full wipe using some other method? I am new to this stuff so thank you for bearing with me
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For me, I don't use any script to perform full wipe. Just use the CWM function and manually do it:
Boot to recovery
mounts and storage
format /cache
format /data
format /system
Then install a new ROM.
But before that I will do nandroid backup:
backup and restore
backup
So when I need to use the same data for the new ROM installed:
backup and restore
advanced restore
pick which backup
restore data