Hi all.
Last night I was reading thread regarding GingerVillain 2.1 and some people were saying something about new ril and drivers with it. Apparently that help them with signal strenght and such. My question is if I can use it with any Tom out there or just with the GV2.1? I am currently trying reduce 1.2 with latest radio 3.54.
Thanks in advance for any replays.
Regards
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ok firstly, neither your radio nor your recovery are the latest so if you are having signal issues i would recommend trying new radio first. there is a seperate topic named 'new bravo radio' search for it - its radio extracted from leaked bravo gingerbread RUU.
now about RILs. these are (i think) android-drivers corresponding to radio-drivers. RIL is stored in ROM, so if you wipe or install new ROM, RIL you flashed will be gone unless you re-flash it (from recovery). Every official RUU big-update contains (usually) new radio and it's RIL. however, it doesnt neccesairly work in a way that once you flashed a radio, the RIL that came with it will improve things. turns out that for various devices on various networks running various ROMs things may differ. thats why in the end some ppl are using even nexus one RIL on desire.
so if you flash RIL that someone said to work well on this rom with this radio version it could be not the case for you. but you can try diffrent RILs until you found one that works fine for you. personally as long as my desire performs just fine i dont see a point to experiment with RILs.
That was an amazing explanation!
Main reason I would look to change my radio with ril would be to benefit my signal. Sometimes I am loosing a signal (even wifi) for about few seconds and than it reestablishes itself again. I will definitely loo for new radio flash that and than see what's happening.
Thanks again.
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Hi everyone,
I'm new at xda developers, and I recently started experimenting with rooting, custom ROMs, etc. I have a question about the RIL firmware drivers. Hope you guys can help me out.
Lately I've been following the progression of baadnewz's InsertCoin ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940), a Desire port of the Desire S ROM (with sense 2.1); you probably already know it. I want to give it a try, but - coming from CM7/prerooted stock roms - I noticed that baadnewz recommends upgrading the radio to the latest version, as well as the ril-firmware-drivers.
I understand the RIL is some kind of mediator between the ROM and the radio. Therefore, is it true that a specific RIL can only be used with a corresponding ROM (version), or has the ROM nothing to do with it? The reason I'm asking this question is because I want to make sure the newer radio+ril will still work in case I decide to return to my old stock ROM. And in general, is it ok to presume that a newer radio+ril will be at least as good as an older radio, regardless of the ROM installed? (I've never upgraded my radio btw)
Thank you!
RIL is not neccesary, use it if things dont work well, it may improve situation, but it is likely that you will have to experiment till you found one that works best for your phone & rom & radio.
RIL is stored in ROM part, so every time you change ROMs, RIL you flashed is gone.
also you do not need to upgrade your radio, do it only if stuff doesnt work fine after flashing a custom ROM.
you also mentiond coming back to stock rom - when you ran a RUU, it also flashes a RADIO and a RIL, so no worries there
every radio comes with its own RIL, but experience showed, that not necessairly they work well together when it comes do diffrent devices on diffrent networks and diffrent roms.
so - flash your rom, if it is ok that leave things be, if not - upgrade your radio, and then you can start flashing RILs
remmember to make NANDROID before flashing RIL and also that in order to flash RIL you must mount \system in recovery.
radio flashes are safest from fastboot if you are S-OFF, if not you can do them from recovery
Thank you for your reply, really appreciate it
I have one last question, just out of curiosity.. You mentioned that radio flashes are safest from fastboot. Why is that?
I'm still S-ON so I won't be able to use fastboot for flashing... Would you recommend S-OFFing to minimize the risk of bricking my phone, in case I decide to flash a new radio?
Thnx
well you can flash radio from recovery, lots of ppl do that without any problems. i never tried it myself.
i think fastboot method is safer since it doesnt involve rebooting your phone during the procedure but not sure how exactly is this safer, it just has been stated many times, that flashing radio fastboot method is SAFEST.
anyway going S-OFF (cd method i used) is super easy, just be sure not to have a2sd+ or data2xxx rom while doing that.
oh and apart from minor advantages like changing your splashscreen or the ability to delete apps from \system while booted up in android there is one BIG advantage - the option to use custom partion table. I am running InsertCoin v19 on CM7 hboot version, and is not only super fast but also it provides lots of space for apps
it definietly faster than insertcoin HD data2ext i used before going S-OFF
Hi,
Just got my HTC Desire HD, downgraded from 1.72 and rooted with the CM7 ROM installed.
I still have the stock radio which came with the phone which is - 12.28b.60.140eP_26.03.02.15_M3.
My question is - I've checked the latest radio thread out but I'm a bit confused as to which one I need to ensure that my device remains unlocked?
Can someone point to me in the right direction please? Also, what is the problem in not upgrading the radio - are there any major issues that can occur?
Thanks for everyone's help.
Dan.
btrim said:
Hi,
Just got my HTC Desire HD, downgraded from 1.72 and rooted with the CM7 ROM installed.
I still have the stock radio which came with the phone which is - 12.28b.60.140eP_26.03.02.15_M3.
My question is - I've checked the latest radio thread out but I'm a bit confused as to which one I need to ensure that my device remains unlocked?
Can someone point to me in the right direction please? Also, what is the problem in not upgrading the radio - are there any major issues that can occur?
Thanks for everyone's help.
if you have installed cyanogenmod 7 yo should flash the recommended radio for this rom...
but its relative,,,,, also the good performance depends of various factors... bettwen that is your location..there are recommended radios depending of your location...
the best advice... you can try some radios (cm7 recommended.... recommended for your location...) and compare if the signal strenght of the phone, wifi, 3g etc its worse or better...
but when you go to download a radio IMPORTANT:::: check md5 checksum
flash it with the most harmless method that you know, like fastboot commander...
Dan.
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be careful mate..... a badly use of radios or flashing it wrong can brick the phone
So it doesn't matter what radio you get to maintain an unlocked phone?
Hi xda`s,
Im a bit confused. Which RIL is included in CM 7.1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297545) and whats the corresponding Radio? Im using the latest LordmodUE CFS Kernel btw.
Ive read so many different opinions on radios to flash. So id like to have everything matching. Im coming from ARHD 6.1.3. The latest radio should be flashed on my phone.
Thx in advance.
no one knows? reminds me of the queens of the stone age
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no one knows? reminds me of the queens of the stone age
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I think it's 2.2.1003G, but I'm not running pure cm7 at the minute so can't guarantee (it is the default in the ROM I'm using, and it works fine with the latest radio).
Edit: I've just noticed in another post I'd replied to from someone who was using a RC of cm7.1 that he had 2.2.0018G after flashing, so it's going to be one of those two (depending on whether it was updated for the final release).
Edit2: If you're already running cm7 just check yourself what you've got:
jkoljo said:
To find your current RIL version, use Terminal emulator (from market) and type:
Code:
su
getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"
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Ah great, thx.
Just found out that its 2.2.0018g. My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M.
Cant find a suggestion if that fits. Is someone into it?
Edit: I just found that I have to flash radio 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M. Can this be done with cwm too? I read that theres a way. But is it safe or is there an easier way? I use an Mac btw and DONT have eng s-off.
Why do you "have to" flash that radio?
If you've got Radio S-OFF, you can download the radio you need from this thread, copy the file to the root of your SD Card (making sure it's named PD98IMG.zip and nothing else), check the md5 of the file after you've copied it to your card (to make sure it's not corrupted or anything), then reboot to the bootloader; it should scan your card, find the file and ask if you want to update. Click yes and you're away.
Other than that your only options are to flash using adb or fastboot, and you'd need ENG S-OFF for those to work.
It worked well thx man. No expensive brick^^
I have a similar question regarding RILs and AOSP roms.
I'm new to AOSP, but in sense there is generally one RIL per radio, and choosing it is easy ( Just flash the RIL after the ROM )
I've been searching around for a similar system for AOSP roms, but it seems as though it's not quite as cut and dry for AOSP. I know that the RILs are different and generally have G in the filename.
Is there an easy way to check which RIL i should use for my Radio on my current rom (blackice)
My radio is 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and I'm not sure which G RIL to use. Any help anyone can offer is appreciated.
Use whichever one gives you the best performance. There's not one that you "should" use (they're all as good as each other IMO), but if you're having signal/connection/drain issues with the one you're using try another one. If not, I wouldn't bother.
If you must try, you easily can switch between the four available RILs in ICETool.
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Thank you for the quick reply and the info. I thought that it might work that way for aosp but this information is great to confirm it.
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Try these if you haven't already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
Greetings!
Thanks for stoppin' in. Hate to clutter the posts, but all my browsing/searching through the site thus far has lead me to older links that don't seem to answer my questions.
My history with my HTC Droid Incredible has always been a mix of positive and negative. One thing I've always been plagued by is a hit-or-miss experience with my call signal and messages.
Details:
-Incoming calls don't ring and go straight to voicemail (I use google voice).
-Many calls are plagued by static or generally poor signal.
-Text and image messages are often not received, or when they are, they often arrive hours after the fact (even the next day).
I've been told that flashing a ROM to a rooted device may include flashing the radio and that each ROM may include its own copy of a radio version. Is this true?
Is flashing the radio typically part of the ROM?
What version of the radio is considered best or most efficient for a VZW HTC Droid Incredible currently?
Is it worthwhile to flash the radio separately?
I'm currently on the beta ICS Miui rom and running smoothly aside from a small handful of buggy behaviors. I've seen these issues on stock as well as Cyanogen 7 and other MIUI ROMs. This is also my second (or third?) Incredible, having had it replaced under Warranty in the past and have typically always had some issues of this kind. Typically, I've just considered some of it to be part of the luck of the draw when using a cell phone.
Anywhos, thanks for the help, folks! If you need further details, please feel free to ask.
No custom roms come with radios that i have ever seen.
Flashing a raido may help your situation and it may not. As to which radio, it is really a matter of which one works best for you.
Here is a page with a bunch of radios that are all compatible with the incredible, even the ones labeled evo. http://dinc.does-it.net/radios
I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the suggestions and input - I'll look into it as soon as I have a chance to get to a computer and such.
Looks like I need to re-flash my ROM as it is, given the alpha of Miui ICS I've been using isn't behaving very dependably at this time.
After I figure out a way to back things up and actually load into recovery (another mysterious issue has recently cropped up where I cannot get past HBOOT), I'll get a fresh ROM done and try another radio.
Anything I should be aware of regarding the radio with consideration to the process or eventually returning to stock if needed?
Kudos!
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General Update:
I tried a number of different solutions to my recently developed issue of being unable to boot recovery. I could get into HBOOT, but every time I tried selecting Recovery, it would default into another reboot of HBOOT. ROM Manager hasn't been any assistance either, as directing it to load into Recovery only brings up HBOOT.
On a whim, I decided to go ahead and try re-flashing Recovery (first option in ROM Manager), despite it showing that it was updated to the latest edition. I then attempted to reboot into Recovery right after and ...drum roll... it worked! Go figure. -_-;; ah well! Figured the suggestion of re-flashing the Recovery might help others looking for a solution.
I'm going to go ahead and see about wiping and flashing a new, stable ROM and then I'll jump into the radio suggestions above.
Thanks again!
Naming patterns?
bukithd said:
I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.
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I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.
Nothing wrong with using an evo radio. I use the 07.28 myself but its because it works best in my area.
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wigmuke said:
I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.
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Correct, 07.07 is newer than 11.19 radio. 11.19 was released in November of 2010, 07.07 was in July of 2011.
Thanks! Learn something new everyday.
I completed flashing the radio! Yay.
Didn't realize at first that it needed to be flashed via HBOOT (though I should've assumed such based on the name), rather than Recovery, but got it taken care of w/o incident.
Immediately, I've seen an increase in signal strength (max bands), and received a text msg that would've been sent earlier this morning. I'm looking forward to seeing further improvements!
Thanks everyone for your assistance.
i use the evo 08.08 radio and it works like a charm...i tried all the radios but i found this one works the best!
How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF
dAii7 said:
How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF
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You must have s-off to flash radios. One question, what is your hboot version? To attain s-off for:
.92 then follow this guide here
OR
1.02 then follow this guide here
The only experience I have and can reliably speak on is installing radios while s-off AND having hboot .92. I can't speak to the success rate of installing a radio with hboot 1.02, it's entirely different and unfamiliar to me.
I recently started using the 12.19 evo radio and it is much better regular signal wise although somehow 3g seems spottier
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
I recently flashed radio as well.
I did it with this one :
http://d-h.st/T1X
My problem was that when calling the other side heard them self twice. And its gone
and yes, It got a lot to do with wifi, 3G, calling. and most of your connectivity .
igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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Radios are not EDIT: ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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In addition to what Bananagranola said, if you flash ENG S-OFF and your device was shipped with Gingerbread you will mess your bootloader and radio won't be the main concern then.
You can flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way (wich is the safest way to do it) or flash modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit and after that you can find the radio threads links in the guide in my signature.
Make sure that you read carefully those threads. Flashing a wrong radio might brick your device.
bananagranola said:
Radios are not phone, ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Gizmoe said:
Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Yeah, sorry, that was misleadingly phrased. I edited my earlier post.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm starting to understand! I'm in the UK, so I guess I would need to get a UK radio. How often are they updated? When I've looked around, there only seem to be a few available.
My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M Can I improve on that?
Also, I read on the LeeDroid thread that you need to make sure the radio is compatible with the ROM, but bananagranola said it's not ROM specific...who's right??! Is it a case of, when I find a radio I want to use, I post it in the ROM thread to ask if they are compatible?
Thanks.
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Gizmoe said:
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Thanks for all the advice. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - had a little issue with a bricked tablet (all fixed now though
I guess the next steps for me are to take a nandroid backup and try some out!
If I'm back on here with more questions it means something went wrong... :cyclops: