Hi,
Just got my HTC Desire HD, downgraded from 1.72 and rooted with the CM7 ROM installed.
I still have the stock radio which came with the phone which is - 12.28b.60.140eP_26.03.02.15_M3.
My question is - I've checked the latest radio thread out but I'm a bit confused as to which one I need to ensure that my device remains unlocked?
Can someone point to me in the right direction please? Also, what is the problem in not upgrading the radio - are there any major issues that can occur?
Thanks for everyone's help.
Dan.
btrim said:
Hi,
Just got my HTC Desire HD, downgraded from 1.72 and rooted with the CM7 ROM installed.
I still have the stock radio which came with the phone which is - 12.28b.60.140eP_26.03.02.15_M3.
My question is - I've checked the latest radio thread out but I'm a bit confused as to which one I need to ensure that my device remains unlocked?
Can someone point to me in the right direction please? Also, what is the problem in not upgrading the radio - are there any major issues that can occur?
Thanks for everyone's help.
if you have installed cyanogenmod 7 yo should flash the recommended radio for this rom...
but its relative,,,,, also the good performance depends of various factors... bettwen that is your location..there are recommended radios depending of your location...
the best advice... you can try some radios (cm7 recommended.... recommended for your location...) and compare if the signal strenght of the phone, wifi, 3g etc its worse or better...
but when you go to download a radio IMPORTANT:::: check md5 checksum
flash it with the most harmless method that you know, like fastboot commander...
Dan.
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be careful mate..... a badly use of radios or flashing it wrong can brick the phone
So it doesn't matter what radio you get to maintain an unlocked phone?
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Hey guys, I just rooted my phone and am looking into installing a new ROM. I'm trying to gather all the info i need, and one thing that keeps popping up is the radio. Most ROMs need a certain radio. Som here come the questions:
What radio does a stock Dinc use (Background, I bought my phone in december, so it is a newer model)?
Does Rooting using unRevoked change the radio (thats what I used)?
How do I check the radio?
Thanks for all the help guys. I looked all over the place and couldnt find answers to these questions, but i might have just missed them. If that's the case, I apologize for the repeat.
EDIT: FOUND THE RADIO!
For others with this same question, its in HBOOT (Turn phone off, then hold power and down volume)
BigD603 said:
Hey guys, I just rooted my phone and am looking into installing a new ROM. I'm trying to gather all the info i need, and one thing that keeps popping up is the radio. Most ROMs need a certain radio. Som here come the questions:
What radio does a stock Dinc use (Background, I bought my phone in december, so it is a newer model)?
2.15.00.07.28 most likely, since it is the official 2.2 radio version.
Does Rooting using unRevoked change the radio (thats what I used)?
No, it does not.
How do I check the radio?
Menu - Settings - About Phone - Software - radio version is labeled as Baseband Version
Thanks for all the help guys. I looked all over the place and couldnt find answers to these questions, but i might have just missed them. If that's the case, I apologize for the repeat.
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Also check here for all the radio information you need to know about, including all the versions of it. I run 2.15.00.11.19, works just fine for me.
The stock Radio is 2.15.00.07.28, and that should be fine for most any ROM. Unrevoked does not change the radio; and your's, being a newer phone, will be up to date. You can check what Radio version by going to menu>settings>about phone>software infomation and it will be list under "Baseband version". Hope this helps.
Edit: ^Sucker! Beat me to it...
Wow!
Thanks for the super fast reply guys! That method of finding the radio is WAY easier than going to HBOOT.
Bennies?
Is there any benefit to using a different radio, ie one with a higher number?
BigD603 said:
Is there any benefit to using a different radio, ie one with a higher number?
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No one can give you a definitive answer to that because it varies from phone to phone based on their own unique variables. In other words, if I install the 9.01 baseband on my phone here in Melbourne, FL, odds are I'm not going to get the same results as someone in Detroit or Orlando. It may be better or it may be worse.
The only way to know if you'll get better performance from a particular baseband version is to give it a test drive for a few days.
Hmm, interesting. All this rooting stuff is so complicated. But I like it.
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Hmm, interesting. All this rooting stuff is so complicated. But I like it.
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Be very careful with radio flashing! If you do it wrong (i.e. pull the battery during) you'll brick it. I get really fast GPS locks and about the same 3G with the 11.19, but as others have said, it really varies location to location.
Am using radio image "5.09.05.30_2", am considering flashing latest radio "5.17.05.23". Is there a requirement that I need to flash RIL too. Also is there any chances that flashing a radio might brick the device. Currently I am using Insert Coin Ginger sense ROM 1.0.8.
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Am using radio image "5.09.05.30_2", am considering flashing latest radio "5.17.05.23". Is there a requirement that I need to flash RIL too. Also is there any chances that flashing a radio might brick the device. Currently I am using Insert Coin Ginger sense ROM 1.0.8.
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Hi, I was originally on 5.09 and went first to 5.14 and then to 5.17. I have never flashed an RIL so I guess it is not a requirement. Having read quite a bit about flashing radios I would say that there is a chance of bricking but it seems that everyone will warn you about this to cover their ass. To avoid bricking it seems you need to make sure that the MD5 check sum is correct and and it should be fine.
Battery life and signal have seemed better since the flashing!
I rooted, downgraded and s-off and , and installed Jermaine151 Stock+ v3.01
My baseband is showing as 2.15.00.07.28 Is that what it's supposed to have? Everything SEEMS to be working okay, but everything I've found about that baseband says it's for Froyo, not GB. Is that going to be a problem in some way, or should I flash a more current baseband? I am very new to all this rooting and stuff, but if anyone could tell me for sure, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
Jim
added during editing...Reason why I posted here, is I could not post in the developer forum due to low post count. I also read through the Stock+ ROM thread and didn't see anything about this.
The baseband is the radio, you can actually upgrade that at anytime. What you are supposed to have is entirely dependent on the radio you install. The reason it's not mentioned in the thread is because your radio signal strength is dependent upon many factors, primarily your proximity to Verizon towers.
Have you thought about installing a new radio? If so, have you downloaded one yet?
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I rooted, downgraded and s-off and , and installed Jermaine151 Stock+ v3.01
My baseband is showing as 2.15.00.07.28 Is that what it's supposed to have? Everything SEEMS to be working okay, but everything I've found about that baseband says it's for Froyo, not GB. Is that going to be a problem in some way, or should I flash a more current baseband? I am very new to all this rooting and stuff, but if anyone could tell me for sure, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
Jim
added during editing...Reason why I posted here, is I could not post in the developer forum due to low post count. I also read through the Stock+ ROM thread and didn't see anything about this.
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Well as Slim stated you can use which ever works best for you, but technicly stock+ is a gingerbread based rom, and radio 2.15.10.07.07 was released with gingerbread by htc. The radio your on now is from the release of froyo. Also htc evo 4g radios will work for our phones, i believe their latest is 2.15.10.0808
You can get the radios here http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=18, they are all compatible with the incredible. There are also other radios not listed on the pvillecomp site, do a little googling and you can find them. Pvilles site are just the major release ones.
I know that I had the most current radio after the OTA was pushed to me. My brother's Inc is still stock, unrooted and running the OTA 2.3.4 His radio is 2.15.10.07.07 I think. Is my radio different because of the 2.2 downgrade that I did? If I don't notice any voice or data reception issues, would leaving my 7.28 radio installed cause any problems? I did put my phone next to my brother's phone and the signal strength dBm were basically identical(within a number or two of each other)
I have looked at a few threads about upgrading to updated radios, but I understand the risk of bricking is higher than the root, downgrade, s-off and Rom install I have done.
What is the best app for testing download and upload speeds if I do decide to try out new radios so I could have a way of comparing to find which is better?
Any suggestions on radios to try?
Thanks for any help anyone can give.
Jim
I had typed all that in while watching the game. My login timed out, had to login again, and realized you had posted. I think I have looked there, but I will definitely check those out.
Thanks for your reply.
Jim
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I had typed all that in while watching the game. My login timed out, had to login again, and realized you had posted. I think I have looked there, but I will definitely check those out.
Thanks for your reply.
Jim
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Yes you have the .28 radio because it is required to use unrevoked, and get s-off. Staying on the froyo radio wont hurt a thing, its which ever works best for you.
I think Ooklas speed test app is the best, its also available online at speedtest.net
Dont be affraid to flash new radios. Its true that it is the most common way of bricking a phone, however it still rarley ever happens. I have changed my radio so many times i cant even count. The best and safest way to do it is only download radios from a reputable source, always check the md5 sums and make sure what you downloaded is the full uncorrupted version. Never flash a radio while on low battery, and never interrupt a radio flash in any way, if it freezez while flashing do not pull the battery or jam buttons come here to xda and get help on what to do. If you do that you should have no issues.
Thanks to the both of you for replying to my questions.
I have reflashed my baseband to the 07.07 file. Everything went flawlessly, no problems and everything seems to be working fine.
Thanks again for your help.
Jim
edit...A friend at work has the EVO 4g. His baseband ends in 12.19 Is that the latest evo baseband and is it usable on the Inc? And is it available somewhere for download?
I haven't heard anything about a newer radio. The latest official is what you have, 07.07, but I wouldn't be surprised if 12.19 worked too-both phones have similar internals. That 12.19 radio may be from 2010 because these phones have been out for a long while so that is a possibility as well. But for the record, I'm here often and I haven't seen an Inc user mention a new Evo radio from December 2011 so I wouldn't bother searching for it.
fjm568 said:
Thanks to the both of you for replying to my questions.
I have reflashed my baseband to the 07.07 file. Everything went flawlessly, no problems and everything seems to be working fine.
Thanks again for your help.
Jim
edit...A friend at work has the EVO 4g. His baseband ends in 12.19 Is that the latest evo baseband and is it usable on the Inc? And is it available somewhere for download?
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I just did a search and found this http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/486888-new-ota-4-67-651-3-out-do-not-accept.html. It says that an update came out for the evo last month, and it contains radio 2.15.00.12.19. So it does seem thats the newest one. I cant find a download link, but i'll se if i can find an ruu and extract it for you.
EDIT: Here ya go found it, just flash thru hboot.
http://dinc.does-it.net/Radios/EVO_2.15.00.12.19/PB31IMG.zip
MD5: c909d91a18adf9bdfca7ebbe49cb9444
Could you post an md5 for that radio?
Thank you!
Jim
fjm568 said:
Could you post an md5 for that radio?
Thank you!
Jim
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Sorry about that, forgot to post it.
Greetings!
Thanks for stoppin' in. Hate to clutter the posts, but all my browsing/searching through the site thus far has lead me to older links that don't seem to answer my questions.
My history with my HTC Droid Incredible has always been a mix of positive and negative. One thing I've always been plagued by is a hit-or-miss experience with my call signal and messages.
Details:
-Incoming calls don't ring and go straight to voicemail (I use google voice).
-Many calls are plagued by static or generally poor signal.
-Text and image messages are often not received, or when they are, they often arrive hours after the fact (even the next day).
I've been told that flashing a ROM to a rooted device may include flashing the radio and that each ROM may include its own copy of a radio version. Is this true?
Is flashing the radio typically part of the ROM?
What version of the radio is considered best or most efficient for a VZW HTC Droid Incredible currently?
Is it worthwhile to flash the radio separately?
I'm currently on the beta ICS Miui rom and running smoothly aside from a small handful of buggy behaviors. I've seen these issues on stock as well as Cyanogen 7 and other MIUI ROMs. This is also my second (or third?) Incredible, having had it replaced under Warranty in the past and have typically always had some issues of this kind. Typically, I've just considered some of it to be part of the luck of the draw when using a cell phone.
Anywhos, thanks for the help, folks! If you need further details, please feel free to ask.
No custom roms come with radios that i have ever seen.
Flashing a raido may help your situation and it may not. As to which radio, it is really a matter of which one works best for you.
Here is a page with a bunch of radios that are all compatible with the incredible, even the ones labeled evo. http://dinc.does-it.net/radios
I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the suggestions and input - I'll look into it as soon as I have a chance to get to a computer and such.
Looks like I need to re-flash my ROM as it is, given the alpha of Miui ICS I've been using isn't behaving very dependably at this time.
After I figure out a way to back things up and actually load into recovery (another mysterious issue has recently cropped up where I cannot get past HBOOT), I'll get a fresh ROM done and try another radio.
Anything I should be aware of regarding the radio with consideration to the process or eventually returning to stock if needed?
Kudos!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA
General Update:
I tried a number of different solutions to my recently developed issue of being unable to boot recovery. I could get into HBOOT, but every time I tried selecting Recovery, it would default into another reboot of HBOOT. ROM Manager hasn't been any assistance either, as directing it to load into Recovery only brings up HBOOT.
On a whim, I decided to go ahead and try re-flashing Recovery (first option in ROM Manager), despite it showing that it was updated to the latest edition. I then attempted to reboot into Recovery right after and ...drum roll... it worked! Go figure. -_-;; ah well! Figured the suggestion of re-flashing the Recovery might help others looking for a solution.
I'm going to go ahead and see about wiping and flashing a new, stable ROM and then I'll jump into the radio suggestions above.
Thanks again!
Naming patterns?
bukithd said:
I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.
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I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.
Nothing wrong with using an evo radio. I use the 07.28 myself but its because it works best in my area.
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I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.
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Correct, 07.07 is newer than 11.19 radio. 11.19 was released in November of 2010, 07.07 was in July of 2011.
Thanks! Learn something new everyday.
I completed flashing the radio! Yay.
Didn't realize at first that it needed to be flashed via HBOOT (though I should've assumed such based on the name), rather than Recovery, but got it taken care of w/o incident.
Immediately, I've seen an increase in signal strength (max bands), and received a text msg that would've been sent earlier this morning. I'm looking forward to seeing further improvements!
Thanks everyone for your assistance.
i use the evo 08.08 radio and it works like a charm...i tried all the radios but i found this one works the best!
How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF
dAii7 said:
How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF
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You must have s-off to flash radios. One question, what is your hboot version? To attain s-off for:
.92 then follow this guide here
OR
1.02 then follow this guide here
The only experience I have and can reliably speak on is installing radios while s-off AND having hboot .92. I can't speak to the success rate of installing a radio with hboot 1.02, it's entirely different and unfamiliar to me.
I recently started using the 12.19 evo radio and it is much better regular signal wise although somehow 3g seems spottier
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
I recently flashed radio as well.
I did it with this one :
http://d-h.st/T1X
My problem was that when calling the other side heard them self twice. And its gone
and yes, It got a lot to do with wifi, 3G, calling. and most of your connectivity .
igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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Radios are not EDIT: ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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In addition to what Bananagranola said, if you flash ENG S-OFF and your device was shipped with Gingerbread you will mess your bootloader and radio won't be the main concern then.
You can flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way (wich is the safest way to do it) or flash modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit and after that you can find the radio threads links in the guide in my signature.
Make sure that you read carefully those threads. Flashing a wrong radio might brick your device.
bananagranola said:
Radios are not phone, ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Yeah, sorry, that was misleadingly phrased. I edited my earlier post.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm starting to understand! I'm in the UK, so I guess I would need to get a UK radio. How often are they updated? When I've looked around, there only seem to be a few available.
My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M Can I improve on that?
Also, I read on the LeeDroid thread that you need to make sure the radio is compatible with the ROM, but bananagranola said it's not ROM specific...who's right??! Is it a case of, when I find a radio I want to use, I post it in the ROM thread to ask if they are compatible?
Thanks.
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Gizmoe said:
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Thanks for all the advice. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - had a little issue with a bricked tablet (all fixed now though
I guess the next steps for me are to take a nandroid backup and try some out!
If I'm back on here with more questions it means something went wrong... :cyclops: