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Correct way to recalibrate/wipe battery stats

Does anyone have a link for the thread that discussed the correct way to wipe battery stats when upgrading to a new Rom? I remember it went something like drain dead, charge to full, drain dead again then charge to full and wipe stats. I can't remember the complete process. Thanks for the help.
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I've seen a couple different threads on that here, one saying discharge fully then charge while powered off, and the other saying to do a full charge "conditioning cycle". I did the latter and it seems to have made a difference.
Here's what I did:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I am using Amon Ra recovery which has the wipe battery stats option under the Wipe option. I never did this when I had Clockwork recovery installed, so I don't know if the option is in the same place.
Being an electrical engineer, I find this business of battery conditioning interesting, along with the Ni-Cd "memory" vs. Li-Ion "no memory" issue. If anyone has found a decent physics-based explanation as to why these things do or do not have any basis in fact, I'd appreciate a link. Yes, I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment.

Hmm, I may have to look into this again. I charged my phone all night (powered off) and unplugged it this morning. I did nothing with it this morning but turn it on and look at it, then put it in standby (quick press of power button). It lost 16% of charge in less than 2 hours!
I'm running BS1.2 with the Baked1 (low voltage/best battery) kernel.
Damn, just installed System Panel and found that my CPU is at 100% constantly!

I'm trying this now. The longest I've pushed my battery was 22 hours... and that was with 39 minutes of screen on time, lol. In standby almost the entire 22 hours....

Ok, I believe my issue was related to a camcorder problem, my CPU usage has dropped back to normal levels after fixing that separate problem. After my battery recharges fully I will see what happens with the charge.

the other methods to do "calibrate your battery" (which isnt really calibrating the battery but the battery stats of the phone so it can accuratly judge when it stops and starts charging)
1) charge the phone to full
2) unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
3) charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
this should reset the battery stats.
the last method is one from HTC
1)Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
2) turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
3) turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
all 3 methods listed should help. I personally dont like the x10 method because it has the potential and basically over charges the battery to make sure it is acctually at a full charge. It is much faster then the other 2 methods though so to each there own.

Dont waste your time on...
plug/unplug 10 times. It really doesn't recal the battery.
the unplug/plug 10 times.
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
You are good to go!

If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.

fldash said:
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
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the evo doesnt do a trickle charge so when the light turns green it stops, this is why you will almost always drop 1-5% battery rather quickly.

Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.

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Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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There's a lot of confusion over how the battery / charging circuit works and how it reports. My advice is to just charge until it's green and full, then unplug it. If you leave it plugged in all night, unplug it for 10 mins in the morning, then plug it back in to top off.

That doesn't really help me SilverZero, my question is only if leaving it tethered (which means connected to USB) is bad for my battery.

Well on mine i would check it every once in awhile and i would see that once it get downs to under 90% that it would charge again till it recognized that it was full again. So based on that i dont think you should have to worry about it. It seems to only draw the charge when needed. I also leave mine plugged in alot when im home so its good to go when i leave and havent noticed a loss of battery life at all.

You guys don't want the charger to trickle charge. Li-Ion does not accept overcharge, even 0.01C (15 mA on the stock Evo battery) will cause it to vent and probably combust.

So does "calibrating the battery" calibrate the phone or the actual battery?
I ask because I have 3 spare batteries, wondering if I have to do this for each of them??? They are all standard size, one of them OEM

[Q] Instant discharge.

So, I'm on my Evo today, playing a game (Air Strike). My battery is at 93% when I picked the phone up to play, and the phone is plugged in. Suddenly, with no warning what-so-ever, my phone shuts off. Of course a mini-freak out and many "wtf's" ensue. No warning, no signs, even the led went off. I pulled the battery, put it back, then plugged the phone in again. After that it gave me the blinking light indicating the battery was too low to turn on. After a few minutes charging she came back on and battery was at 5%.
How the hell does a battery go from 93% to 0% in less than 5 minutes, and give no warning at all?? Anybody else ever have this problem?

Wow I've have never heard or that happening before. Maybe a glitch in the battery stash? Did it take awhile to charge up to 100%? Can you reproduce the issue again?
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I had this problem with my older phone once. The battery itself may have a problem or your phone is not getting charged properly.
Try These :
1) Try charging the phone overnite from the Wall charger (Not through USB of your computer)
2) If the above does not work, and you have access to another evo battery, then try using that.(try using a friends battery and charger for a day. ) (Ofcourse needless to say the charger and battery must be for Evoonly )
In my case, my phone started working fine again after getting my battery & charger replaced.

Probably shouldn't worry about it too much just yet. Could be something as simple as your battery meter was mis-calibrated. The meter itself is software so it can easily be wrong/off. If it continues you may have a bad battery.

Sounds to me like something is wrong. Did you just get the phone or have you had it?

Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....

Mark_Hardware said:
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
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I've seen some posts about the Evo battery shutting off the charge when its being used. Were you using your Evo while it was charging?
If the battery doesn't seem to be giving you percentages that are accurate, you might want to recalibrate your battery.
Common misconceptions sticky (Evo Q&A) said:
Battery recalibration (Thanks to Cyanogen for this and to fachadick for bringing it to my attention).
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery and wipe battery stats.
(To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for your ROM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue.)
3. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off. Take out the battery, and keep trying to turn on your phone until it will not turn back on at all.
4. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
This is a method that has been proven to work, I am sure there are other ways. My battery lasts longer after doing this and the reading is much more accurate. It might be advisable to do this after every ROM install if you want the most battery life and most accurate battery reading by the phone's software.
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[Q] about my battery

ok so i got a problem with my battery
my battery on my phone just going out to fast
for example today
i connected it so it could reload and then
when i disconnected it was 100%
then after 2 hours only that i havnt use the phone i mean havnt touched it even once
i look again on battery life and here it says 36%
and it keep going every day
can some1 tell me why it keep happening???

WOW! That's a major drain in 2hours.
My 2 cents are on a defective battery - since the phone was on standby.
You can try some tutorials on adjusting the power saving settings (like screen brithgness what to turn off and not etc.)
Also you might try caibrate the battery.

there is a thing like u charge it to 100% ,unplug from the charger and turn the phone off ,then plug in again and charge to 100% again... there is a thread about it on this forum, do a lil search it might help u

Dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to battery and find partial wake usage, here the apps are listed that prevent the phone form sleeping and thus causing battery drain. Also check the % under Settings-about phone- battery usage to see what app or process consumed the most battery.

Does it get very hot? I mean - if the battery really contains 1500mAh (which I doubt in this case) and drains completely in 3 hours, that's 500mAh, so 3.5V*0,5A=1,75W continuesly.
You really should notice that while it's in your pocket...

no the phone isnt getting hot
i mean it can sit on my pocket for like 2-3 hours and then it suddenly 3x %
without even touching it

Try these steps:
1. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.
2. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.
5. Disconnect the phone, power it on (OPTIONAL: Enter Recovery at this point and Wipe Battery Stats (from Advanced menu), and use it. You need to use this sequence only once.
If that does not solve it you have a defective batterie.

ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??

NoneSkillZ said:
ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??
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The point of that, is to make the battery life longer. And actually it works. I tried when i bought my phone an the increase was significant!
Edit: Just saw in another thread that some newer custom ROMs has some things messed up, and they eat the battery more than normal when the screen is off. You might take a look at it.

yea i did all the steps and its not working
the battery still going down rapidly
so i should buy new one??

Yeah.
BTW, are you on a stock rom?

srry
no idea what stock rom means
but im on miui rom

Ultimate Guide, And Unoriginal Battery Conditioning Technique

For ALL those people that are complaining about battery life.
Here's what I do, and I get PHENOMINAL Battery life.
There are two ways of conditioning a battery that stand out above the rest, and I combine them.
Download the battery monitor widget/app
Set it to your battery's maH in settings.
This isn't totally a needed step, but is a useful app.
Charge your phone until full.
Unplug it, turn it off, then plug it in for one hour.
Turn it on for two minutes, so it fully boots.
Turn it off, unplug it, when the light goes off, plug it back in for one hour.
That part of this is actually from HTC, on how they found the best results for charging.
Now, before you plug it in, unplug, wait for the light to go off, plug it back in.
When the light turns green, unplug it again. Repeat that step 10 times.
(It may not take 10, it may take more, but 10 is good)
While plugged in, boot to recovery, wipe your battery stats.
Then reboot to system.
A good habit to preserve battery life is to keep mobile data off, unless you need it. I used to turn wifi off, too, but lately, I leave it on.
How good is this?? I take my phone off the charger when I leave for work at 7AM, and usually, I go to bed at 11PM, when I plug it back into the charger, and it's never below 80%, unless I've been really using the phone excessively.
The other thing is, I do this, somewhat daily. I wake up, turn the phone off, so my alarm doesn't keep ringing every 15 minutes, unplug it, then not turn it back on til just before I leave, so it's getting that "treatment" at some level, every day.
For more info, read this awesome thread, from Biofall:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778466

Cool! Will have to try it.

Im constatly on my phone, on the web non stop. So no matter what I do, wont help me out haha.

3500 mAh battery
I use my phone like crazy. Monthly phone use averages 1200 minutes, plus 30 to 40 gigs of data. Until recently i had the battery that came with the phone, plus an identical sized spare. I would use both batteries up and had to keep my phone on charger to get thru my day. Battery 1 from 8a to about 2p and then battery2 from 2p about 7p.
A couple of weeks ago I bought the 3500 mAh battery which is larger is size, so i got a new backing to it. Since then I only use 1 battery, and it lasts 2 full days. End of day 1 which is about 11p battery is at 60% and then i end up charging it at the end of day 2 when the phone usually is about 10% or so. Even if i dont charge at 10% it takes about 3 to 4 hours to get to zero...(I tested it twice)...
So if you are an over user I suggest getting the battery the phone should have come with from the start

those who are still having FC errors upon clearing the calendar storage and gmail storage...
1). Go to settings>Accounts and Sync> Turn the Automatic Sync off or uncheck every option to sync.
2). Now to go to settings>applications>manage applications> Clear the storage now and also clear data in Htc Checking Service and Htc Weather
3). Turn the sync on and let the phone sync itself. The problem will be gone
Best Regards!

Awesome tips, I feel a difference already.

Wow, this is an old thread. Good job using search! +1

[Q] Inc consumes battery when turned off

tldr: My Incredible drains battery when turned off :-/
I have an HTC Droid Incredible that I use for testing my developed apps, and for playing around with people's roms, and I have found an odd issue with it. I can charge up the battery and use it for hours and hours and it consumes what I would consider a normal amount of charge, but when I turn it off, it still consumes battery charge. I'll charge it to 100% and disconnect the charger, hold the power button and select Power Off, and when I turn it on the next day the battery is very depleted. Yesterday I did this, and this morning about 16 hours later, I turned it on to see a 23% charge. If I leave it for more than a couple days, it won't even turn on at all and I have to charge it again before I can do anything with it.
I've tested this over the past few weeks with two separate batteries (one used, one brand new), and the same thing happens with each battery. It's definitely the phone and not the battery, because I have taken the batteries out completely, waited a few days, and they stay near 100% charge.
Some history on this phone:
I got this phone from a friend in a semi-working state. I couldn't root, s-off, or really do anything with it, so I did a factory reset, messed with it for a while, and finally decided to follow the steps in this thread to "unlock,downgrade,and achieve s-off with htcDev". This has allowed me to mess with roms, etc, so I have installed a couple, and now have "inc-eng 4.1.1 RC2" installed from this thread, and this kernel: "[email protected] #64 Mon Sep 3 18:55:57 EDT 2012"
The issue at hand however was happening before I even had it in my hands, as my friend described the same thing happening to him (he did not mess with rooting, roms, etc).

BipolarMike said:
tldr: My Incredible drains battery when turned off :-/
I have an HTC Droid Incredible that I use for testing my developed apps, and for playing around with people's roms, and I have found an odd issue with it. I can charge up the battery and use it for hours and hours and it consumes what I would consider a normal amount of charge, but when I turn it off, it still consumes battery charge. I'll charge it to 100% and disconnect the charger, hold the power button and select Power Off, and when I turn it on the next day the battery is very depleted. Yesterday I did this, and this morning about 16 hours later, I turned it on to see a 23% charge. If I leave it for more than a couple days, it won't even turn on at all and I have to charge it again before I can do anything with it.
I've tested this over the past few weeks with two separate batteries (one used, one brand new), and the same thing happens with each battery. It's definitely the phone and not the battery, because I have taken the batteries out completely, waited a few days, and they stay near 100% charge.
Some history on this phone:
I got this phone from a friend in a semi-working state. I couldn't root, s-off, or really do anything with it, so I did a factory reset, messed with it for a while, and finally decided to follow the steps in this thread to "unlock,downgrade,and achieve s-off with htcDev". This has allowed me to mess with roms, etc, so I have installed a couple, and now have "inc-eng 4.1.1 RC2" installed from this thread, and this kernel: "[email protected] #64 Mon Sep 3 18:55:57 EDT 2012"
The issue at hand however was happening before I even had it in my hands, as my friend described the same thing happening to him (he did not mess with rooting, roms, etc).
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Maybe the battery is bad... take it out of the phone at 100 and leave it overnight and see what happens life wise
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zachf714 said:
Maybe the battery is bad... take it out of the phone at 100 and leave it overnight and see what happens life wise
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Thanks, but I did test that, with both of the batteries I have. I've left them for multiple days out of the phone, and when put back in they show 95-100%.

Maybe it's not turning off all the way.
Here's another test: turn it off, remove the battery for about a minute, then put the battery back in. Turn it on the next day and look at the battery level.
Might be a ROM issue. What ROMs have you tried this with? Have you tried stock sense and CM7?

Will do, I'll post tomorrow with my results.

If you have fastboot enabled then the phone is never really off. Try charging it then pull the battery, and put it back in the phone but leave it off. Turn it on latter and see if there was any battery loss. Fastboot is like hibernation. Its possible that some app is misbehaving and trying to sync or something while its hibernating, draining the battery.

Alrighty so yesterday I charged both batteries to 100%.
Battery A stayed out of the phone on my desk.
Battery B I removed from the phone, waited 10 seconds, and put back in the phone (I did not turn it on).
This morning, the phone (with Battery B in it) would not turn on until I charged it for a few minutes, and displayed 0% charge when it finally let me turn it on with the charger connected.
This is so weird...
Also, the rom I'm using doesn't have a fastboot option that I can find.
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If you have fastboot enabled then the phone is never really off. Try charging it then pull the battery, and put it back in the phone but leave it off. Turn it on latter and see if there was any battery loss. Fastboot is like hibernation. Its possible that some app is misbehaving and trying to sync or something while its hibernating, draining the battery.
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Okay so Battery A I put into the phone at 4pm yesterday, turned it on and found it had a 73% charge. I then turned the phone off, waited a few minutes, put the battery in and left it on my desk. This morning 12 hours later, I turned it on and it has a 25% charge.
I'm so confused... if I don't turn the phone on, how are the batteries discharging? Both batteries keep their charge when left out of the phone for a prolonged period, but discharge when in a phone that hasn't been turned on. Bah! >_<

BipolarMike said:
Okay so Battery A I put into the phone at 4pm yesterday, turned it on and found it had a 73% charge. I then turned the phone off, waited a few minutes, put the battery in and left it on my desk. This morning 12 hours later, I turned it on and it has a 25% charge.
I'm so confused... if I don't turn the phone on, how are the batteries discharging? Both batteries keep their charge when left out of the phone for a prolonged period, but discharge when in a phone that hasn't been turned on. Bah! >_<
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Mabey there is a short in your phone somewhere. Does the battery last like normal when the phone is on, or does it also die quickly?

cmlusco said:
Mabey there is a short in your phone somewhere. Does the battery last like normal when the phone is on, or does it also die quickly?
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I'll have to test this when i get home, but I beleieve the battery discharges at a normal rate when the phone is on.
(this is not my normal phone, just one I use for testing apps, etc. so I don't use it on a regular basis)
I'll charge one of the batteries to 100% and leave it on overnight, and post my results.

BipolarMike said:
I'll have to test this when i get home, but I beleieve the battery discharges at a normal rate when the phone is on.
(this is not my normal phone, just one I use for testing apps, etc. so I don't use it on a regular basis)
I'll charge one of the batteries to 100% and leave it on overnight, and post my results.
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Okay I left my phone on for 18 hours in airplane mode, and it drained battery SLOWER than with the battery inserted into the phone and the phone never turned on.
So weird... I don't understand.

BipolarMike said:
Okay I left my phone on for 18 hours in airplane mode, and it drained battery SLOWER than with the battery inserted into the phone and the phone never turned on.
So weird... I don't understand.
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Very strange. I have no clue what would cause something like that.

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Very strange. I have no clue what would cause something like that.
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Mine drains when all the way off 2 but not that bad... I think it may be the MotherBoard keeping power to the Nand memory so it dosen't relock and keeping power to the CPU so it can be quicker on bootup

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Mine drains when all the way off 2 but not that bad... I think it may be the MotherBoard keeping power to the Nand memory so it dosen't relock and keeping power to the CPU so it can be quicker on bootup
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I'm assuming there's no way to stop it from doing this?
It's not a huge deal, as this is a test phone I use for development, but I may be eventually selling my test phones, so I try to keep them in good working order, or get them to a decent refurbished point Plus this is a weird enough phenomenon that I figured it deserved discussion.

BipolarMike said:
I'm assuming there's no way to stop it from doing this?
It's not a huge deal, as this is a test phone I use for development, but I may be eventually selling my test phones, so I try to keep them in good working order, or get them to a decent refurbished point Plus this is a weird enough phenomenon that I figured it deserved discussion.
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There maybe no stopping it I guess because mine does it 2 but not that fast..... Oh yeah an I think this is the 1 test phone you don't sell It has 2 many good devs