Right, i have quite a bit of stuff installed, but it's all on my memory card. Yet i keep getting Low Internal Memory warnings, i've only got 32mb left. I don't know what could be taking up so much memory on the phone, is there any way to tell?
Thanks
Install DiskUsage from the market. It'll show you how your storage memory is used.
Root it with Gingerbreak, then use Link2SD, free from the Market. It's basically Apps2SD+, and moves the entirety of the app to the SD.
I've got 60 apps installed and 200mb free.
Everything's dandy, even on a crappy class 6 SD card.
Took me 5 mins in total.
I've got a Neo, but same applies to Arc.
The Xperia Arc has 1GB internal storage, however only around 300MB is actually usable. Even if you move your apps to your SD card, it will still leave traces of it on the internal memory, and thus will take up space on both your SD card and the very limited internal storage of the Arc.
love the phone but internal memory issues
I want to upgrade from galaxy S to SII, but whats holding me back is this lucrative looking beast, design and screen is simply tempting. One worry. Compared to galaxy's gigantic internal memory this beast rests in denial. Like how to manage the android OS with so less internal memory, Os is demanding.
Is there any safe work around to manage the freekiing features and independencies of the OS. I am in love with android & some how I get apps that boosts my daily life, so I use a lot of apps. Plz guide me if I can look for owning Arc. Howz the battery life, will it live upto a day (1.5hrs of music, 15mins of video, 1.5-2 hrs of calling, 45 mins browsing & always online on native Gtalk and Nimbuzz). Plz reply soon I am out of droids now.
i think with the 2.3.3 update it should leave you with more than 50-60 % charge. It also depends on the data usage (Wifi or 3g or 2g). I easily do about 2.3 hours of music 3 mins of vids watching, atleast 30 mins of gaming(2d or 3d-hd), 1 hour of talking and checking mails via 3g and from morning 6 am to night 10 pm i usually have more than 60% charge left.
Then again it differs from day to day. User to User
Hmm.. If its true i m goin to wipe my phone, cause 3 hrs of gaming thats all i get
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But What about internal memory
Friends you didn't comment on the internal memory handling. Are the apps lagging on day to day use. Plz let me know.
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Friends you didn't comment on the internal memory handling. Are the apps lagging on day to day use. Plz let me know.
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I did experience lagging. But then, I upgraded to 2.3.3 and then factory reset.
then it runs fast.
I think the RAM is too low compared to other smartphone. My Desire Z, it has only 800 MHz processor, but it has 768 RAM and 1 GB internal storage.
The more you install app, the more it consumes RAM. You should maintain free RAM at least 40% to avoid lagging. So, you have to move apps to SD, but the problem is that not all apps can be moved to SD.
Is there any way to move "all apps" to SD (not just few apps)?
Guide on buying xperia arc
For moving all the apps device needs rooting I am just scared that this doesn't ruin the basic quality features of the device like media playback like music clarity and video clarity.
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According to the specs the phone comes with 576mb of ram, yet when I got my new phone it only had 140mb available, which seems to me that you lose around 75% of the memory advertised before you actually get the phone.
Anyone know what is using up all this memory
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According to the specs the phone comes with 576mb of ram, yet when I got my new phone it only had 140mb available, which seems to me that you lose around 75% of the memory advertised before you actually get the phone.
Anyone know what is using up all this memory
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Android is using it. It doesn't RUN from ROM, no modern OS does that. ROM is merely where it's stored, it run's in RAM.
thanks for the response, i understand it doesn't run from ROM but just couldn't believe that you lose 75% of the ram.
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thanks for the response, i understand it doesn't run from ROM but just couldn't believe that you lose 75% of the ram.
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You don't lose 75% of anything, it's still there. You're using 75% of it!. A phone that uses 0% of it's RAM would be a real-fancy paper weight after all.
If you try to open an app and you don't have enough RAM to run it Android will close activities and apps until there is enough. Any half way decent modern OS acts this way.
75% usage is fine and normal, don't worry about.
Perhaps your phone is developing Alzheimer's?
Actually you guys are confusing a lot here!
The 140MB that are available are ROM memory. The rest of the 512MB is used by the system and Sense etc.
That's not much available, since apps can only be installed into those 140MB.
Of the 576MB RAM, the system also uses some of it. But there's more than 140MB available.
it is indeed the rom, however, being that a massive majority of android apps are less than 1.5 mb in size, and if programmed properly use the SD card for storage means, the likelyhood of most people ever having a problem is minute.
I've read people on these forums with 70 odd apps on their desire and they have no issues whatsoever.
it really is not an issue.
after upgrading from the G1 with only 70mb-80mb available for installing apps unless you used the sdcard for storage was just a shock to only see 140mb available on the desire.
Agreed, it definitely is a problem if you install an app like Google Earth (22meg) and a few large games you will soon run out. On my G1 with apps2sd I had over 200meg of apps installed.
Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
Guys is there a tool where I could see how many rom and ram memory is available to install apps.
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it is indeed the rom, however, being that a massive majority of android apps are less than 1.5 mb in size, and if programmed properly use the SD card for storage means, the likelyhood of most people ever having a problem is minute.
I've read people on these forums with 70 odd apps on their desire and they have no issues whatsoever.
it really is not an issue.
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I'd have to disagree with you I'm afraid - it really is an issue.
My Desire has about 80 apps installed, including Google Earth, Navigon satnav, and about 5 games. I have literally less than 10mb of ROM space left - not even enough for another game.
The space supplied on the ROM for apps is pathetic, and the sooner the Desire gets rooted (to enable apps2sd) the better.
EDIT: I've just realised I've repeated what other people said, and also may have come off like a douche - no offence intended!
Adding SD Storage does not help!
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Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
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When you think about it, this will make the new HTC Incredible (coming this year) with 8GB on board a big seller for HTC, do feel a little bit let down by HTC on this
I have to admit up until today when I got an "out of space" message I assumed apps were going on the SD Card, I'm really gutted about this. But in my heart I knew at some point went rooting was possible I would do it anyway.
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When you think about it, this will make the new HTC Incredible (coming this year) with 8GB on board a big seller for HTC, do feel a little bit let down by HTC on this
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Afaik the 8GB onboard is as storage, not as ROM. So if android is still like today (only allowed application to be installed in ROM) those 8 GB can't be used as well. The main reason of this limitation is to prevent the piracy, but I read somewhere that there is a plan to add a function to store the encrypted application in the external storage. Hopefully that can be realized soon.
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EDIT: I've just realised I've repeated what other people said, and also may have come off like a douche - no offence intended!
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No worries. I probably sound like a douche most of the time, but after doing my job for as long as i have, i no longer really care. but no offence intended from my end either. i may be a grumpy sod, but i'm not an a-hole.
anyhoo, most people will get nowhere near 80 apps.
I've been on android since the magic and got nowhere near that yet. most people won't. but yeah, lets hope either HTC start putting more memory in the phones, or google just add pss2sd capability as standard.
either would solve this for those few people that it does effect.
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Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
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but u cant use them as system memory so its like a 8gb SD
Yeah, perhaps I'm spoilt from having apps2sd on my Dream - I've got used to installing whatever the hell I like, and leaving it there!
Let's hope Paul from MoDaCo finishes rooting/getting write access to the system partition soon. Or indeed, any other dev who can manage it
How do you guys get so many apps? I have installed around 20 apps and it's telling me I'm running low on space.......quite annoying. Having to remove apps to instal others.
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Afaik the 8GB onboard is as storage, not as ROM. So if android is still like today (only allowed application to be installed in ROM) those 8 GB can't be used as well. The main reason of this limitation is to prevent the piracy, but I read somewhere that there is a plan to add a function to store the encrypted application in the external storage. Hopefully that can be realized soon.
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LOL that was pretty much what I wrote originally & thought I was talking nonsense so I edited the post, should have left it I guess
For me its not the number of apps its that some are large. Anyone have copilot installed, im thinking of getting it but im worried the maps are going to fill the memory up & leave me room for no other apps! The Desire is a cutting edge device & we just shouldn't have to contend with this issue, Heck I never had this with Windows Mobile. Then again I never had any apps for Windows Mobile
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How do you guys get so many apps? I have installed around 20 apps and it's telling me I'm running low on space.......quite annoying. Having to remove apps to instal others.
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It's not only the issue with the number apps you can install. This issue is also limiting developers. There are a couple of reasons iPhone applications/games are usualy higher quality then the android counterparts. Storage problems is one of those issues sadly.
Hi guys I want to purchase Neo and the only thing stopping me is the low internal memory, Since Arc and Neo are built on the same platform, can you people guide if ther is a way on neo to install all apps on sd card keeping the internal memory free for the apps that cant be moved to SD like google maps (as far I know). I also believe that the mails & gtalk chats are stored on the phone so keeping the phone memory is imp specially when we have so less internal memory. Plz help me buy this the other option is galaxy s II but its too big to be kept comfortably in pocket.
This actually seems to be a problem in new Xperia's why nobody is replying.
Or maybe no one's replying because its been 5 hours
The internal memory on the Arc is low as it is... its prone to lags every once in a while when the memory gets so low that the phone has to do some cleanups. I'd say go for the GS2, isn't it roughly the same size as the Arc?
sgs2 look like a beast
arc look like a sexy lady....hahaha
i believe with the overclock kernel, things will work quite nicely, like lg2x, altho 512 its kinda snappy with duo core
need others to confirm....
I am interested for neo since there is no forum for it I had to post it in ARC's thread, I believe there are almost equal as per hardware internal and S/W. Neo is quite smaller than S II.
I find that after removing a lot of the SE stuff, it frees up a lot of the internal memory. I put all of my apps on the internal memory and games on the sd, and it's working out pretty well for me.
Though if you have A LOT of apps/games, then you can look at "App 2 SD" which is on the Android Market. It lets you move almost all of your apps onto your SD card. So while having low internal memory sucks, its not that big of an issue IMO.
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....for the apps that cant be moved to SD like google maps (as far I know)....
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I've moved google maps to sd card without a problem (with titanium backup) and i've uninstalled alot of SE bloatware.
Off course, the internal memory of Arc is no comparison to the SGS2, but i honestly don't experience any lag, but then again, i'm not a heavy app user (got bout 20/25 of them).
A friend of mine got the SGS2 and it's indeed slightly bigger then the Arc, and putting them next to eachother confirms the beauty and the beast story ;-).
edit... only just saw your interested in Neo, that's a different comparison regarding looks, i haven't seen a Neo in reel life yet
Hello,
I'm using an app called RAM EXpander to increase swap in order to unlag my phone wich is running many many apps...
Since our Xperia S doesnt have much ram, this was the only solution to keep everything running and to not make lag in my phone..
So the question is, how safe can be the use of this kind of apps in relation of the flash memory usage (readings/writings)..
AFAIK it'll do some harm in the long term, but what long term means?? 2 years? 1 month and it'll kill my phone flash memory?? 10 years??
I've seen in XDA and all over the web, people that comment on how bad is using flash as a swap because of the writing limitations in flash memory, but still havent seen an actual case of a dead flash memory... LOL
thank you in advance
As far as I know the only "downside" of using Swap is that it degrades the SDcard, shortening it's life, but it's only noticeable after long periods of usage ( 5/6 years ? ) because of the constant write when swapping inactive blocks from the RAM to the swap partition. Neither you or I have seen dead SDcards because almost no one keeps the same phone for so many years, considering that those who use SWAP tends to need more performance from the phone and, consequently, ends up upgrading the phone itself in about 2/3 years maximum.
Even tho, I don't see swap as a good alternative for "better" multitasking.. sdcard has much slower write/read speeds comparing to RAM (even SSDs are much slower), so re-opening purged apps can be way faster than just swapping it back to the RAM. But it's my opinion
Hi,
My one day old LG G7 shows 2.74Gb in use and 0.99Gb free with no apps running (there's an LG Smart Doctor app I use to look at this and cleared all apps from memory).
I have very few apps installed and disabled what I could from the preinstalled ones.
This seems very high to me. Or is it normal?
Thanks
Normal
tatalor2 said:
Hi,
My one day old LG G7 shows 2.74Gb in use and 0.99Gb free with no apps running (there's an LG Smart Doctor app I use to look at this and cleared all apps from memory).
I have very few apps installed and disabled what I could from the preinstalled ones.
This seems very high to me. Or is it normal?
Thanks
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Considering the fact that's an LG phone that's pretty Normal
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NormalConsidering the fact that's an LG phone that's pretty Normal
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Not sure what it means, do customized Android is so heavy on RAM usage? Is it the same for Samsung S9 or HTC 12, for example?
How much RAM is free with no apps loaded on Google Pixel 3?
tatalor2 said:
Not sure what it means, do customized Android is so heavy on RAM usage? Is it the same for Samsung S9 or HTC 12, for example?
How much RAM is free with no apps loaded on Google Pixel 3?
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I owned an LG phone with 4GB ram and had about 700-1300 free at normal usage.
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Sidenote: Un-used RAM is wasted RAM. It's nothing to worry about.
After a restart my RAM went to 1.2Gb free and about 2.5Gb in use with no apps open. I read up a bit about how Android works but still feels like this is on a very low side. How are things on your phones with no apps opened?
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Sidenote: Un-used RAM is wasted RAM. It's nothing to worry about.
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This is the correct answer to the question of the OP. Android tries to use as much RAM as possible to avoid having to restart apps.
If you have something in RAM it's going to open faster than it will from the disk, in our case flash storage.
Phones are mostly less-affected by paging to the storage when the memory is low, which is how Windows works for example.
Because the flash storage is fast (not as fast as the RAM though) it's generally un-noticable.
If something is in RAM, it's either waiting to be used or being used. These include services from apps that might be closed but run in the background. Keeping these in RAM uses less power than asking the flash storage for the data every-time it's needed.
You don't need to worry about specifically high RAM usage. If you have the 4GB RAM model, then having about 1GB free, give or take a few hundred MB depending on your apps, is normal.
I have just under 1GB free with nothing open on a slimmed-down LineageOS V20 that only has 3GB of RAM. You can assume 2-3GB of Android system usage on a stock ROM depending on how long the device has been on for, how heavily the manufacturer has modified/bloated it, and other varying factors.
This leaves you with the remaining amount of RAM you've mentioned for you to do what you want with your apps. 1.2GB free and 2.5GB in use is roughly where it should be on freshly-booted stock ROM.
The only way to increase the RAM you have would be to root and de-bloat it by freezing the apps you don't use.
Facebook and Messenger can easily hog up to half a gig of RAM in total after a while, and using the Lite versions of apps like these can help.
I wouldn't worry at all if I was you. When my V20 was running a stock ROM, even after a week of usage I still had about half a gig of RAM left. If you're constantly cleaning it then it means apps have to stop and re-start services after the clear is complete, which wastes time, power and efficiency.
Android is good at what it does. Let it do it
Redline said:
If you have something in RAM it's going to open faster than it will from the disk, in our case flash storage.
Phones are mostly less-affected by paging to the storage when the memory is low, which is how Windows works for example.
Because the flash storage is fast (not as fast as the RAM though) it's generally un-noticable.
If something is in RAM, it's either waiting to be used or being used. These include services from apps that might be closed but run in the background. Keeping these in RAM uses less power than asking the flash storage for the data every-time it's needed.
You don't need to worry about specifically high RAM usage. If you have the 4GB RAM model, then having about 1GB free, give or take a few hundred MB depending on your apps, is normal.
I have just under 1GB free with nothing open on a slimmed-down LineageOS V20 that only has 3GB of RAM. You can assume 2-3GB of Android system usage on a stock ROM depending on how long the device has been on for, how heavily the manufacturer has modified/bloated it, and other varying factors.
This leaves you with the remaining amount of RAM you've mentioned for you to do what you want with your apps. 1.2GB free and 2.5GB in use is roughly where it should be on freshly-booted stock ROM.
The only way to increase the RAM you have would be to root and de-bloat it by freezing the apps you don't use.
Facebook and Messenger can easily hog up to half a gig of RAM in total after a while, and using the Lite versions of apps like these can help.
I wouldn't worry at all if I was you. When my V20 was running a stock ROM, even after a week of usage I still had about half a gig of RAM left. If you're constantly cleaning it then it means apps have to stop and re-start services after the clear is complete, which wastes time, power and efficiency.
Android is good at what it does. Let it do it
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Ok then, so nothing to worry here, it seems. I'll just stop checking it as long as I see no lag. Which I don't
Hello,
I wonder what version to buy - 128 or 256 GB, more is better, I know, but budget is not flexible ;-)
Is 128GB ok if I am going to get about 2 hours of 4K movie?
Will filling the storage with data make the phone slow?
Greetings!
Neither. 128gb isn't much space. 256 isn't either especially with no expandable storage.
Leaves no room for growth.
Not having a SD card slot is a major liability and wastes your time, battery and makes reloading much slower and difficult.
Thanks for the answer and for your time, although it is quite possible that this was a bit of a wasted time as there are no references to the questions of my post. But perhaps my question has not been very precise. Well, my point is that someone who has the phone model mentioned in the topic, wrote how much really free memory is available for data storage (because the system usually takes part of the pool).
The second question concerned the requirements of 4K movies, theoretically it is 70 Mbps, i.e. about 30 GB per hour of movie, which theoretically gives over 3 hours of recording on this phone (depends on the answer of previous question). It's even too much for me, especially since you can rip everything to the cloud at the end of the day. Nevertheless, the opinion of a practitioner would be very valuable to me.
Regards!
You'll suck up 128gb before you know it not including 4k recordings. With a relatively light load I'm using at least 60gb* of internal on my N10+. The lowest I would go is 256gb. That's not all that much.
Something with a SD card slot would work better. A V30 rated card can stream 4k vids.
*critical data, media, docs aren't on internal memory; the 60gb initially is just apps, DCIM and download folders. It quickly increases in size from there though.
Well... N10+ is not I am asking about...
Please, anybody with S22 kindly to check?
If anything scoped storage based apps will require more memory than my non scoped storage ones. You will be running mandatory scoped storage. I run Android 9 and 10, no scoped storage. So there's that.
128gb be cutting it tight... you want to have at least 20gb free at all times. Otherwise you'll end up playing stupid games.