[Q] radios? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, I'm going through the forums and I keep seeing people talking about flashing different radios. I was wondering how the different radio's are different and why people use one over another in situations. Thanks a million!

Joshua3109 said:
Hey, I'm going through the forums and I keep seeing people talking about flashing different radios. I was wondering how the different radio's are different and why people use one over another in situations. Thanks a million!
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I would only change it if you have signal, dats or wifi connection issues.
Some people do report differences to battery life, but I've never found an observable difference.

After much deliberation and dithering, I finally flashed my current radio (in my sig) and found that I got full-bar signals more often than before with the usual locations.
I used to have 5.09.05.30_2 radio

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How do I know if I need a New Radio?

My signal is pretty bad and my wifi is too but I only deal with roms, not radios and people are constantly updating their radios. I have one of Josh's roms so what radio should I get, and if I were to get a new radio would it clear all the info on my device as if I were flashing to a new rom? Thanks
gabriel713281 said:
My signal is pretty bad and my wifi is too but I only deal with roms, not radios and people are constantly updating their radios. I have one of Josh's roms so what radio should I get, and if I were to get a new radio would it clear all the info on my device as if I were flashing to a new rom? Thanks
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You might do. Make a note of your current radio so you can go back if things get worse. Try the latest one for starters and see what results you get. You can Flash Radios from your SD Card and not lose any data. I used to keep all the Kaiser ones on my phone and keep flashing until I found a good one.
What radio is best for you? Well, there is no answer I can give. It depends on where you live, on what network, and what ROM you're using. From what I've read, latest is best (I'm not on the latest yet, but when mine was the latest it was the best I'd tried).
Dave
gabriel713281 said:
My signal is pretty bad and my wifi is too but I only deal with roms, not radios and people are constantly updating their radios. I have one of Josh's roms so what radio should I get, and if I were to get a new radio would it clear all the info on my device as if I were flashing to a new rom? Thanks
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ALWAYS flash a new ROM, just search for the newest Radios in this TOUCH PRO2/TILT forum or the wiki. There are always newer updated radios. It takes minutes to flash a new radio from start to finish. THIS CANNOT BRICK YOUR PHONE!!
So, experiment. I did and found 2 radios that were better than a stock radio. I went from 2 bars in good areas and 1 bar in bad ones to 4 bars in good areas and 2-3 bars in the bad areas. It just depends on your region and carrier.
Check my sig for the radio I am using. It seems to work the best for T-Mobile, my gps, wi-fi, and phone signal dramatically improved after flashing a new radio. So, trust me, spend the time to flash a new radio and you'll most definitely see a difference from the stock radio. Let me know how this works out.
outerdepth said:
THIS CANNOT BRICK YOUR PHONE!!
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No, but if you flash untested radios you can have problems unless your device is security unlocked. Some buggy radios cannot be removed, and if they are poor quality, you're in a world of pain .
Moral of the story, always read the feedback, and don't flash untested radios unless you know and understand the risks .
Dave
I went from having No signal in the back corner of my first floor apartment to 1-2 bar 3G Thanks! (No sarcasam intended)
What radio did you flash? I have T-Mobile and only get 2 to 0 3G bars at work. It is really interfering with my music streaming. Would love to get mor bars.
Just want to subscribe to the thread.
Radio Version: 4.49.25.57 (HTC, T-Mobile)
gabriel713281 said:
Radio Version: 4.49.25.57 (HTC, T-Mobile)
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From where did you get the radio and have you noticed any improvement in your 3G number of bars?
thebrenda said:
From where did you get the radio and have you noticed any improvement in your 3G number of bars?
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Just search this Touch Pro 2 forum or the Rhodium wiki here and you will find all the radios available for download. If you use T-Mobile, the one in my signature below is the best I found and apparently Gabe here too! So just search, it only takes a couple minutes.

Best Radio for T-Mobile UK

Hello folks,
I know this is one of the most repetitive questions asked in this forum but mine is slightly different. I read many posts which says you have to test all the radios yourself and decide what suits you. I am running AOSP GB ROM.
I tried the latest 27.03 then went to 5.14.05.17, both seemed good and I was having good coverage for mobile/GPS. But the main problem is when I want to use 3G for mobile browsing. I see full coverage, H and everything, but when I try to browse something, nothing happens, its like no data is sent/received...It'll stay like that for few seconds sometimes a minute too and then does send/receive which annoys me a lot and prefer a consistent 2G connection which works 100% even though its slow. It happens quite regularly. This is irrespective of which ROM I use so it may be to do with -
a. Radio
b. Phone
c. T-Mobile UK
Btw, I am on "unlimited" data plan.
So just want to know if there are any T-Mobile UK users who don't have this problem and would wish to know which radio suits best for them and then I may try that n see if that helps or infact anything to boost 3G data transfers ?
Help much appreciated.
Cheers,
RD
..... I will say what you said and a lot of people said. Try each radio to see which suits you the best.
If your still having issues (which you are) then give T-Mobile a call. They do diagnostic checks and everything so they will be able to help you out more than what we can.
i find 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 seems to hold a constant H
Hey Thank you both for replying. John, I flashed the radio you said above and it is behaving good so far. Will test this throughout the day but initial impressions are definitely better.
i will definitely second that. i have been using 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 for a long time on my Desire (TMobile) and its the best i have tried.
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
I am so glad you have created this thread as I havn't got round to it. This problem is a constant pain in the ass, and is driving me nuts.
You have mentioned, if it was to do with 'T-Mobile UK' themselves as I believed it was. I've contacted numerous times regarding this matter but they hadn't a clue what I was on about and I presumed it was to do with the recent merge up with 'Orange UK' to create Everything Everywhere that I signed upto, so I had requested to opt out but they're demanding me to tell them what the reason and issue was, so I did, but they did not respect my decision of wanting to opt out, so I didn't take it any further. If you are signed to Everything Everywhere, then we may have something there...
So, I left that to be... until I investigated the other possibilities... I tried flashing other ROM'S but the problem kept persisting.
However, I have never discovered it could be to do with the 'Radio' I'm using, hopefully it is as it will be less of a hassle for myself and others alike.
I await a solution...;(
Anybody can help assist me? Thanks
sh500 said:
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
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Sure is
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Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
Deeco7 said:
Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
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no radio is going to fix the issue, i've had that problem since i had the htc hero, tried all the radios, they all the same , can;t really see the difference .the same thing with the desire. what made it worse since the merged with orange.
the only good thing about orange , i get good reception indoors, good for making or receiving calls, no internet .
indoors wifi . oudoors hsdpa(t-mobile) when you a good signal is good . i wouldn't bother flashing more radios, it's t-mobile's **** coverage.
hope this helps
Thanks for your reply.
My first instincts was that is was to do with the Orange merger. If there is a slight improvement by flashing a different radio I would be grateful, if however as you say it makes no difference I'd leave the radio as it is.
It would be great if others can confirm/post a solution.
Thank you.

How do I update the bootloader?

Hello!
I've been having bad receptions/signal loss on my GN.
People have been recommending me to update my bootloader, but how do I do it?
1. Assure you are bootloader unlocked
2. Go into bootloader mode
3. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20725207&postcount=2835
4. Double click fastboot-windows.bat (windows only)
5. Done
6. Reboot
And your problem is most likely radio related. What radio are you using?
Hemulen said:
Hello!
I've been having bad receptions/signal loss on my GN.
People have been recommending me to update my bootloader, but how do I do it?
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Bootloader isn't going to do much for signal, you want radio. See this thread and this post
The thing is that I already have the PRIMEKL01 bootloader with the KK6 radio.
How come I still have huge problems with signal loss on 2G/3G?
Hemulen said:
The thing is that I already have the PRIMEKL01 bootloader with the KK6 radio.
How come I still have huge problems with signal loss on 2G/3G?
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Reset your APN? Is it bad signal all around?
Hemulen said:
The thing is that I already have the PRIMEKL01 bootloader with the KK6 radio.
How come I still have huge problems with signal loss on 2G/3G?
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Because that nonsense of a magical bootloader helping or stabilizing signal was....nonsense. Same for battery life.
zephiK said:
Reset your APN? Is it bad signal all around?
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Well, my reception is good enough - but I very often get signal loss meaning and reception is gone completely for 30-40 seconds before returning as nothing happend.
How do I reset my APN?
adrynalyne said:
Because that nonsense of a magical bootloader helping or stabilizing signal was....nonsense. Same for battery life.
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I still don't understand why you continue to "join" these threads and mention about these absurd debates in previous threads because they honestly really don't help anyone at all but cause drama. But okay.
@OP: Settings -> "More" (under Wireless) -> Mobile network settings -> Access Point Names -> Bottom right, reset to default.
Try playing around with different radios around the forum. See if one of them will prevent the dropping of signal.
zephiK said:
I still don't understand why you continue to "join" these threads and mention about these absurd debates in previous threads because they honestly really don't help anyone at all but cause drama. But okay.
@OP: Settings -> "More" (under Wireless) -> Mobile network settings -> Access Point Names -> Bottom right, reset to default.
Try playing around with different radios around the forum. See if one of them will prevent the dropping of signal.
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Thanks! Tried that to see if it helps
I've tried KK1, KK6 and KK7.
How many more radios to choose from? And what radio do you use personally?
Hemulen said:
Thanks! Tried that to see if it helps
I've tried KK1, KK6 and KK7.
How many more radios to choose from? And what radio do you use personally?
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I use XXKK6 but you have a bad experience with it. Usually "XX" radios are optimized for Europe. But it doesn't really matter, I live in USA and I use European radios.
KRKL1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439217 (Korea)
UGKL1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430107 (North America)
UGKK7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382699&highlight=radio (North America)
.. also, google "hashtab" and verify it's MD5 hash (do not flash a radio without a MD5 hash provided.. thats my recommendation, flashing a radio without matching MD5 may cause problems but if its not provided then look at user feedback anyway, flash it only if you need to). I suggest you to go back to XXKK6 if you manually updated the radio to verify its MD5 hash.
UG = North America
XX = Europe
K = 2011 (11th letter of the alphabet)
L = December (12th letter of the alphabet)
# = Revision number
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Hemulen said:
Thanks! Tried that to see if it helps
I've tried KK1, KK6 and KK7.
How many more radios to choose from? And what radio do you use personally?
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See thread linked in my sig. Should contain all radios this forum knows about.
Edit: for tapatalkers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
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zephiK said:
I still don't understand why you continue to "join" these threads and mention about these absurd debates in previous threads because they honestly really don't help anyone at all but cause drama. But okay.
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Probably because if there's one thing XDA is great at, it's people spreading misinformation that they don't intend/realize their spreading.
KWKSLVR said:
Probably because if there's one thing XDA is great at, it's people spreading misinformation that they don't intend/realize their spreading.
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More like people here just love to go into other people's threads and cause drama based off a person's personal experience. If it has helped someone fix their problems even though a person doesn't believe it, that doesn't give them the right to keep posting in there to bring the topic out of relevance to what the purpose of the thread was supposed to be.
We're all here at XDA to help each other. Not bash on each other's feelings. It was simply a matter of updating a bootloader, and having a updated bootloader isn't going to make a phone become worse. No damage done, so is it really worth all of this drama and debate? I don't think so.
And I wouldn't want to continue this talk any much longer as I've dealt with it in the past 2-3 threads. Thanks, show was good, but let's move on.
Shoot, I'm on 4.0.2 with 4.0.3 bootloaders/modems, although in a lot of the weak signal areas around here I think I might be better off reverting back to the 4.0.2 modems.
What the other poster was trying to say in a not so nice way is, "Feel free to update your bootloaders. There's no harm that can be done and you may have a slightly smoother ICS experience, but don't be under the impression that it is a solution for making a significant difference in your battery life".
It's not helping to mislead people. Not that anyone in this thread has, but to the new user, there are a lot of things that are misread. New bootloaders and modems probably WILL make the OP's ICS experience somewhat noticeably "better", but they do not solve the OP's desire, which is to get extra battery life.
It's going to be very frustrating for people that think that new bootloaders fixed their problems, only to have their problems "come back" (because unless your original bootloader is just plan trash, your battery life difference is negligible) which will lead to more of the same types of posts that are all over XDA that are chalked full with a lot of opinions and not a lot of proof, which only leads to an over saturation of conflicting information when people use the search function.
But I agree, dude coulda been a little more tactful. And to the OP, flash a new bootloader/modems. It really can't hurt. I'm on Revolution HD which is already fast/smooth, and there are places within the ROM that smoother/quicker with 4.0.3 bootloaders/modems. Also, when you say signal loss, do you mean you'll go from 2G/3G to nothing, or from 3G to 2G sitting in the same area? It's not a fair comparison since I'm on Verizon, but I've had some times where my signal drops for no reason. A buddy of mine's Rezound is that same way, living in the same area, we think it may be a tower issue. Although I do see times where it happens in other places.
What is this 'tact' thing, you speak of?
/me runs off to Google.

Weak signal in my house and other areas?

I've been having a lot of 3G connectivity issues in my house, and a lot of the times outdoors. I've tried CM7 and CM9 all with different kernels. I'm using the 2.15.10.12.20. I've also tried *228
Should I try a different radio? I've tried even using a network refresh to no avail. What should I try?
Recon0212 said:
I've been having a lot of 3G connectivity issues in my house, and a lot of the times outdoors. I've tried CM7 and CM9 all with different kernels. I'm using the 2.15.10.12.20. I've also tried *228
Should I try a different radio? I've tried even using a network refresh to no avail. What should I try?
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Try different radios, you can get them here http://dinc.does-it.net/radios. The evo radios on that page also work for the inc, as evos and incs are so alike.
cmlusco said:
Try different radios, you can get them here http://dinc.does-it.net/radios. The evo radios on that page also work for the inc, as evos and incs are so alike.
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It appears I have the latest one, does that not make it the best?
Recon0212 said:
It appears I have the latest one, does that not make it the best?
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No it does not make it the best. When it comes to radios its a what works best for me may not work best for you type deal. Many people report that they get the best signal on older radios. For me the newest radio is the best signal i have ever got, while others say it made there signal worse.
So I've tried a number of radios, with little improvement, if any at all. I've tried *228 and even tried a signal refresher. However, I still have poor signal, while my friends with other phones do not.
Any advice?
Recon0212 said:
So I've tried a number of radios, with little improvement, if any at all. I've tried *228 and even tried a signal refresher. However, I still have poor signal, while my friends with other phones do not.
Any advice?
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It may just be that your friends have newer radio hardware as their phones are newer. If new radio software or *228 dosent help, there isnt really anything else you can do .
Really? Are you sure it might not be a defect? I mean it is a refurb I got after my first one broke. Or is it one of those things where it either works or doesn't work?
Recon0212 said:
Really? Are you sure it might not be a defect? I mean it is a refurb I got after my first one broke. Or is it one of those things where it either works or doesn't work?
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12.20 was the worst radio I ever used, I can't believe that verizon pushed that to all dinc users last month who were on stock. I've been using the EVO 12.19 radio and it seems to be the best for my phone but like everyone says it varies. I would keep trying some of the other radios until you find something a little better. I recommend trying 07.28 and 07.07, Particularly 07.07 if your phone had better reception about a month ago. If you got the replacement more recently than that then i guess it would be hard to tell but you can still try it. 07.28 is a froyo radio but I had it for a very long time before i realized that when I downgraded to root I also had downgraded my radio and it worked just fine. Anyway, best of luck to you but if none of these helps, more than likely, like cmlusco said, it might be time for a new phone. You can buy used phones for fairly cheap online so you won't have to wait until your contract is up.
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12.20 was the worst radio I ever used, I can't believe that verizon pushed that to all dinc users last month who were on stock. I've been using the EVO 12.19 radio and it seems to be the best for my phone but like everyone says it varies. I would keep trying some of the other radios until you find something a little better. I recommend trying 07.28 and 07.07, Particularly 07.07 if your phone had better reception about a month ago. If you got the replacement more recently than that then i guess it would be hard to tell but you can still try it. 07.28 is a froyo radio but I had it for a very long time before i realized that when I downgraded to root I also had downgraded my radio and it worked just fine. Anyway, best of luck to you but if none of these helps, more than likely, like cmlusco said, it might be time for a new phone. You can buy used phones for fairly cheap online so you won't have to wait until your contract is up.
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I get an upgrade the end of August! Just the wait will kill me
Hey guys just a heads up. Verizon sent me another Incredible and it fixed all my issues. I now dropped from -105 to -85. Thanks again!

New radios??

Would someone be so kind to point me in the direction or explain what the differences in all the different radios that we can use on our phone? Thank you all in advance!
loumoli said:
Would someone be so kind to point me in the direction or explain what the differences in all the different radios that we can use on our phone? Thank you all in advance!
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Here's a link with all the radios and how to instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787677
There's a pretty good amount of info on them there. It seems to depend on your area as to witch will work best for you however for me the lf9 seems to be best and lg8 is pretty good as well. Just have to experiment yourself in your area.
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Here's a link with all the radios and how to instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787677
There's a pretty good amount of info on them there. It seems to depend on your area as to witch will work best for you however for me the lf9 seems to be best and lg8 is pretty good as well. Just have to experiment yourself in your area.
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Thanks, I had the same questions
I am still confused between the difference between radio and modem. Any suggested reading or can someone clarify?
IncrediblyCheap said:
Thanks, I had the same questions
I am still confused between the difference between radio and modem. Any suggested reading or can someone clarify?
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There's lots to read if you Google it but to my knowledge basically there the same. The modem does handle data and radio handles cell reception but there's no way to have different versions for modem and radio. I could be wrong but I'm sure someone will chime in and let me know if so.
Best thing to do in my opinion is just try the different radios and run the speed test and see what you get for your area. Different areas different modems are gonna be better.
If I helped hit thanks and if I can help anymore let me know.
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There's lots to read if you Google it but to my knowledge basically there the same. The modem does handle data and radio handles cell reception but there's no way to have different versions for modem and radio. I could be wrong but I'm sure someone will chime in and let me know if so.
Best thing to do in my opinion is just try the different radios and run the speed test and see what you get for your area. Different areas different modems are gonna be better.
If I helped hit thanks and if I can help anymore let me know.
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Yuuuup. You are pretty much on. Good assist!
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So far to me flashing all 4 radios numerous times, not too much of a difference. LF9 and LG8 seem to be the best. Then again, hard to tell, Sprint having network issues.
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IncrediblyCheap said:
Thanks, I had the same questions
I am still confused between the difference between radio and modem. Any suggested reading or can someone clarify?
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Did you come from an HTC phone? I came from an Evo 4G, and I got used to the term "radio", too. I think modem is just the word Samsung prefers, whereas HTC used the word "radio", but the actual function is exactly the same.

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