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[Q] can you back up apps and data to switch between roms?

I quite like trying out different roms and seeing how they do, but i dont want to spend hours redownloading all the apps again and tweeking them to how i like them all over again.
Is there an app or something on the pc that backs up all the apps and its data so i can easily switch between roms?

You can use Titanium Backup for that, but it is not advised since restoring data can bork your rom. It is better to use appbrain to store the list of your apps so you can redownload them from the market after you flashed your new rom.
Searching in development section of the desire forum instead of general would have answered your question.
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hmm. its not so much the downloading thats a problem, its setting everything up again to how i like it. handcent sms for instance takes me ages to retweek it. is there nothing that stores the actual app data?

I nerver had any problems using Titanium Backup. It has always worked like a charme for me.
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Before flashing a new ROM make a Nandroid backup - then when you find one you don't like you can revert back to one that's already setup

Quick and easy question...

Okay I enjoy rooting my phone and changing Roms all the time but I just have a quick question. I play homerun battle 3d a lot and I'm addicted to getting far in the game however everytime I flash a new Rom my data is erased now the question is how do I go about saving the data and restoring it after a Rom flash off about my other apps just this one. I know everyone is going to say titanium backup but how do I go about saving and restoring it thanks for the help
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Titanium. Use the batch backup and batch restore functions for your apps + data. When you restore, you need to reboot your phone to let the system data populate.

I don't want to backup all my apps just that one game and its data. And when I flash a Rom do I install as usual then restore or do I just go to titanium and it'll set everything up itself
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Don't install it first, just use titanium to restore that app+data. You won't lose a thing. HRB3D is awesome, I completely understand your concerns.

THANKS and my final question is do I need to have titanium backup pro to back up data or is the free one good enough
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The free one will do it. The only difference between the two versions that I have noticed is the batch restore on the paid version is set it and forget it, whereas the free version you have to hit ok for every. single. freaking. app that you want to restore.

Oh okay thanks that's no problem for ne I just need to save that game the rest I can download fresh thanks so much saved ne so much playing and replaying of the samething
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I don't like titanium. MyBackup works better IMO.

bluebeast213 said:
I don't like titanium. MyBackup works better IMO.
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I've heard a few people say that. What does MyBackup do that Titanium doesn't? Or what does it do better?

Much more user friendly IMO.
You can choose to backup your data and then deselect anything that you don't want to backup (ie. text messages, call log, bookmarks, etc.).
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You can choose to backup your apps and then deselect any that you don't want to backup. It will then ask you if you want to backup apps, app data, or apps and app data.
It has a free 30 day trial.......try it out.

Much more user friendly IMO.
You can choose to backup your data and then deselect anything that you don't want to backup (ie. text messages, call log, bookmarks, etc.).
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You can choose to backup your apps and then deselect any that you don't want to backup. It will then ask you if you want to backup apps, app data, or apps and app data.
It has a free 30 day trial.......try it out.
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Well you can do that with titanium too. I will admit though, it's not a very user friendly app, at least not at first. It took me a minute to figure out how to use it. I will check out MyBackup though on your recommendation. It's always good to have multiple options. Thanks!

Titanium Backup. Has anyone lost faith in it?

I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's

sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.

Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)

I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.

I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.

Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...

Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?

SantinoInc said:
GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.

I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.

Restoring app data in CM9 help

I know restoring data from system apps with TB will cause problems but is it ok to restore data from all my none system apps with TB. If so how do i do it without accidentally restoring system data? I have data i would like to restore like shazam or Mr. Number so if anyone can help it would be great. I posted this question in the CM9 thread but no one was able to give a answer

blackdragon79 said:
I know restoring data from system apps with TB will cause problems but is it ok to restore data from all my none system apps with TB. If so how do i do it without accidentally restoring system data? I have data i would like to restore like shazam or Mr. Number so if anyone can help it would be great. I posted this question in the CM9 thread but no one was able to give a answer
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Probably because its simple. Do you know how to use TB at all? There is a button that says restore next to your app but just keep in mind you had to of backed it up at one time.
I mean seriously did you click backup restore option at the top then click the app and see options to restore or backup. OK one last thing why not just go to TB web page for help or better yet Google...smdh
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playya said:
Probably because its simple. Do you know how to use TB at all? There is a button that says restore next to your app but just keep in mind you had to of backed it up at one time.
I mean seriously did you click backup restore option at the top then click the app and see options to restore or backup. OK one last thing why not just go to TB web page for help or better yet Google...smdh
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Hey jerk off if wasn't here to help than why bother replying? Don't you think for a senior member trolling wouldn't be a option for you but i guess it is.

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Hey jerk off if wasn't here to help than why bother replying? Don't you think for a senior member trolling wouldn't be a option for you but i guess it is.
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i gave you the answer in the cm9 thread. you even quoted it.
people like him and i give the responses we give to get people like you to think about the scenario a bit and to use your head so that you're not reliant on someone else answering a question that you wouldn't have to ask had you took the initiative play with the app for 3 minutes to figure it out yourself.
if you used TB, then you would see the "restore missing apps with data" and the "restore all system data" options. it's pretty clear what the correct option would be for your case. since the first one doesn't say "system", but the second one does explicitly says "system", then it's quite obvious that the option to go with is the one that doesn't say "system". when you choose the "restore missing apps with data" option, it lists all non-system apps. from there, it comes down to hand-eye coordination and an IQ higher than 30 to not click on a non-system app or to click on only certain apps that you want restored. all you have to do is play around with the app a little bit to figure it out.

[Q] Major lag from touch screen suddenly

Hello.
I have posted this in the forums at Android Central and only got one response. I've had my phone since Feb of this year. Since 11/2 there is major lag. No issues on 11/1. Taps on the home screen are continuously being read as long presses. My lock screen is really laggy, as are home screens and most apps. Bad piggies for whatever reason is working just fine. Most other apps including the keyboard are very laggy. It just seems to be very slow to respond to touch all of a sudden. My phone is rooted stock GB. At AC, I was told an app was hogging RAM. I downloaded Memory Useage from the google play store but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still getting that lady after killing and uninstalling apps. The lag is still there with the native launcher so I really don't think it has anything to do with GO Launcher. I used TiB to revert GOL back to the previous version. I also uninstalled GOLocker as well. I've done a soft reset but it didn't help.
Is there a way to see my Play update history so I can see which apps installed that night? I've always had the occasional lag but it wasn't ever really a big deal. This is greatly interfering with my use of the phone. I am lucky to type a word before the keyboard disappears. Low resources makes sense but I just can't figure out what app is hogging them.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of resting back to unrooted GB to upgrade to stock ICS.

The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.

cajunlibra said:
Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.
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My apps list is in the play store..
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BluesRulez said:
My apps list is in the play store..
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Thanks. **Slaps forehead**

cajunlibra said:
Thanks. **Slaps forehead**
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This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.

cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Yeah
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cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Now I have removed all apps updated on 11/2 or overnight from the evening of 11/1. The only one I can't touch is Kies. I have frozen it with TiB but I'm still getting the super heavy lag. What can I do next? Do I need to just reset the whole device now and start from scratch?
This is really frustrating. I love my phone and haven't had it long enough to switch to something else. Are there any tests that I can perform to check on the screen itself?
I have also installed OS Monitor and the top apps using up the CPU are OS Monitor, SYstem, Google Play Movies & TV, Android System, gzip. THe % used varies from 0% up to 26% they may last only a second or two. Is there something wrong with my phone? I feel like I've exhausted finding a resource hog.

If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.

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If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.
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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?

cajunlibra said:
Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?
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Paranoid android 2.50. You can make a nandroid backup from el26 kernel with cwm of an pics rom.
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I'm currently using codename, great rom. I've only used my nandroid backups several times but they do work. Always just made my backup in whatever custom recovery I was using at the time. Can't remember what recovery I used on GB. Its been a while. Edit just use the el26 blues mentioned above
When switching between ROMs or experimenting I use SMS backup and restore and call log backup and restore from market. Its nice to have those old texts and call logs sometimes.

I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?

cajunlibra said:
I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?
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External SD never gets wiped during a rom flash. Even internal sd card doesn't.

What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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cajunlibra said:
What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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I have used once when I flashed jb tar and it worked. I prefer mobile Odin over desktop Odin to flash. Mobile Odin means no triangle.
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I use triangle away all the time, I never use mobile Odin. I think its more risky, not sure why, its all in my head

Thanks. One more question and hopefully we're done here.
I noticed that on the paranoid Android site, they no longer have OTAs. How do you get updates? Do you have to flash each time?
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Do any of you find it odd that bad piggies seems to be immune to this lag issue? I played it on my to work this morning. Other apps get bogged down. Thank you all for your help and advice.
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Custom roms typically require manual updates. Very few update automatically and i have never tried paranoid.
I'm not even sure what bad piggies is.