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So I've made a conscious decision to switch to an Android device. This is a hard decision for me. Prior to WinMo I worked with iPhones, Now its time for me to go visit the Android world. I'm getting a myTouch and a G1. The goal is to not forget the WM and XDA community. I will be working my hardest to gather as much information and begin porting as much Android as possible into Dev&Hack. I will also be able to focus more energy into messing around with the Dash and Dash3g since I don't have to worry about bricking as much.. I've had alot of ideas and projects that started but never came to a head. Hopefully I can push some of these ideas out soon. Thank you guys for being a fun and helpful community and hope to see you in Dev/Hack
See you in the Dream section!
Good luck then,
I´ll stick to WM for a while, meantime Andorid get solid and mature
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well all the very best,
and yes u can defiantly help getting android on our dash........
we need ppl like u ..........
can the touch pro 2 run 6.5? or does it get the upgrade to 6.5?
yes, there are multiple 6.5 builds out there. what carrier do you use?
i have tmobile....i am new to the WinMo platform, i wanted to get the 6.5 upgrade and also run Android on my device.....does the Android hack support 6.5?
6.5 supports the android hack. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but you boot into windows and then load android. If your phone was purchase in the last month or two from Tmo you should already have 6.5 installed.
Here are some links for T-Mo 6.5:
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/Filedownload.aspx?pid=tp2
http://www.wmexperts.com/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-update-officially-out-now
Welcome from the Feisty Woman
Hi welcome to xda and enjoy your new brick...
Sorry, just some *****y humor to say before you do ANYTHING please read and then re-read all the wiki's/manuals/stickies in the Rhodium forum...there are steps you must take before "playing" with your phone, such as unlocking it. It is VERY IMPORTANT that you understand these steps or you will have a very pretty, very expensive paperweight aka brick.
6.5 is available as both a stock upgrade and custom roms. If your device is very new it may already have 6.5 on it. Droid is not fully functional yet, but it is becoming so very quickly...again, before attempting any rom change, RTFM!!
I would strongly urge you to read in both rom and droid sub-forums of Rhodium, as well as in the general sub-forum. Stickies are the best place to start.
Happy tinkering and welcome to xda, you will become seriously addicted and probably turn into a rom whore like most of us (that's the fun part)!!
ok, thanks 2 both of u guys answers, i will def read everything before doing so.....i jus wanted to try somethin diff, and also which one would u recommend? HD2 or Pro 2? my Pro 2 is on its way, but i didnt kno if the HD2 is better beacuse it has a faster processor and i am new to WinMo, i just left Blackberry...i had a G1 before that so i already kno how to use Android
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ok, thanks 2 both of u guys answers, i will def read everything before doing so.....i jus wanted to try somethin diff, and also which one would u recommend? HD2 or Pro 2? my Pro 2 is on its way, but i didnt kno if the HD2 is better beacuse it has a faster processor and i am new to WinMo, i just left Blackberry...i had a G1 before that so i already kno how to use Android
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Frankly, if my TP2 had the bigger processor that the HD2 has, it would be absolutely PERFECT (yes, I have processor envy!)
That being said...I would not trade in my TP2 for an HD2...I love the sturdiness of my TP2, I love the physical keyboard. I am very hard on phones, and I tested the HD2 out in the store and it felt like, to me, a wimpy iPhone...like I would snap it in half...but then my phone must battle makeup, hairbrushes, and whatever other girly stuff is in my purse that makes it weigh 50 pounds...so I need a bulky, sturdy device.
I do not know if/when the HD2 will be droid compatible, but I know our Rhodium chefs have been kicking ass in that arena!! We also have some wicked awesome chefs cooking up WinMo roms...I am personally a big fan of the Cell team, but all the chefs here are really awesome and very helpful.
Anyway, again, welcome to xda...and be sure you read and re-read before attempting any modifications.
how could i make the phone run faster? or free up more memory?
denrenten said:
how could i make the phone run faster? or free up more memory?
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That young padawan can be found by reading the forums...
check out some of those stickies/wikis mentioned as priority reading materials.
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...what I do is install "fluff" programs to my sd, also my cache files...I also routinely clean my phone of crap including bad uninstalls/shortcuts, dangling notifications and stuff like that using programs like SK Tools or MemMaid.
Hi there, fellow htc owners!
First of all I'd like to thank all enthusiasts willing to use their knowledge and expertise to bring new technology to our devices, of which I never even thought it was possible. It was such a release to find out I could ditch the nightmare called windows mobile. A few months ago I tried an early release on my phone, which was nice but obviously not yet developed to the point where it could take in winmo's place.
the past few weeks I've been reconsidering. A friend of mine (who owns my old kaiser) got android up and running on his phone. Hallelujah, good lord etc.! So smooth, responsive, stable and above all: complete...! Only the kaiser's low resolution and the bad touch screen kept me from wanting my old phone back!
So I decided to give my touch pro t7272 (raph100 I figured out) another shot.
Sad enough, I didn't get as far as I did last time.
Here's what I did.
1. I downloaded the 2.1 build from the XDAndroid sticky in this forum, updated it with the "31.5.10NEW!" system file.
2. I formatted my 2Gig SD card
3. copied all the files, followed by placing the raph100 "startup.txt" in the root.
After starting Haret, I got past the terminal lines and the screen calibration.
Seconds later there was a nice animation of a colorful "X" shape, which kept on going and going until I came back from work (which was 2 hours after I left). HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT (*caugh*understatement*caugh*).
unexperienced as I am at this, I somewhat hope, by chance, that there might be someone who knows how I could resolve this issue? and make my wet dream come true *lol* .
I'm currently using the stock 6.1 winmo, and my device is unlocked (had other winmo roms installed before).
Because of the animation, this is all the info I have.. no error of whatsoever.
Any help, even just a link to the topic where I can find the answer myself would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and again, thumbs up for all the people making the effort for all of us!
regards.
There are lots of people on this board with similar complaints, and there are quite a few possible causes.
First I recommend that you make absolutely sure your phone is indeed a RAPH100 - is it unbranded?
I would also try deleting the data.img and booting again to recreate it.
Let me know what happens.
fgl87 said:
Hi there, fellow htc owners!
First of all I'd like to thank all enthusiasts willing to use their knowledge and expertise to bring new technology to our devices, of which I never even thought it was possible. It was such a release to find out I could ditch the nightmare called windows mobile. A few months ago I tried an early release on my phone, which was nice but obviously not yet developed to the point where it could take in winmo's place.
the past few weeks I've been reconsidering. A friend of mine (who owns my old kaiser) got android up and running on his phone. Hallelujah, good lord etc.! So smooth, responsive, stable and above all: complete...! Only the kaiser's low resolution and the bad touch screen kept me from wanting my old phone back!
So I decided to give my touch pro t7272 (raph100 I figured out) another shot.
Sad enough, I didn't get as far as I did last time.
Here's what I did.
1. I downloaded the 2.1 build from the XDAndroid sticky in this forum, updated it with the "31.5.10NEW!" system file.
2. I formatted my 2Gig SD card
3. copied all the files, followed by placing the raph100 "startup.txt" in the root.
After starting Haret, I got past the terminal lines and the screen calibration.
Seconds later there was a nice animation of a colorful "X" shape, which kept on going and going until I came back from work (which was 2 hours after I left). HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT (*caugh*understatement*caugh*).
unexperienced as I am at this, I somewhat hope, by chance, that there might be someone who knows how I could resolve this issue? and make my wet dream come true *lol* .
I'm currently using the stock 6.1 winmo, and my device is unlocked (had other winmo roms installed before).
Because of the animation, this is all the info I have.. no error of whatsoever.
Any help, even just a link to the topic where I can find the answer myself would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and again, thumbs up for all the people making the effort for all of us!
regards.
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Try using the CAB or ZIP release by the brilliant mistake in my thread. i have a link in the second post to his thread. But i'll link it here anyway
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5420781#post5420781
Agree with using CAB install. Had simular issues on my WM6.5 modded ATT Fuze. Installed the CAB version and works everytime.
So guys, my my new manager decided to buy an HTC Hero CDMA along with Sprint service for me, so I'm (with some degree of enthusiasm) retiring my trusty Tilt.
It's been a long road, filled with many nights of expletives and battery pulls, but things were starting to get really good. A major shout-out to Myrn for his Warm Doughnut rom, that was probably the one rom that I really felt was fully functional and didn't require battery pulls.
Anyway, I digress. I want to know who you guys think would benefit most from a donation of this tilt. My first impulse is to offer it to dzo as non of this would have been possible without his incredible work getting drivers and nand flash support working on the Kaiser. I also am thinking of myrn since I don't think he actually has a Tilt.
So, please give me your suggestions, and I'll decide next week.
Honestly? My vote would go to Polyrhythmic for the Polymod series, or Myn for Warm Donut, but really any of the various android devs deserve it, and I'm sure would be able to use it to improve what we already have
Actually I'd vote for Polyrhythmic too.. If I remember correctly his Kaiser wouldnt boot linux anymore, that's why he left Kaiser ANdroid dev scene. Maybe he'd stage a comeback with a "new" phone =)
As far as I know DZO already has a kaiser ...
My kaiser died after trying to flash a new radio ROM, so if have more than one left... Going back to my old Nokia 3410 is quite a big step backwards
Personally I'd give it to myn too. I really like it's ROM's and he does a great job
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As far as I know DZO already has a kaiser ...
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I mainly wanted to give it to him as a thanks for all his work, but you guys make a good point, it would make more sense to give it to someone who needs it.
i used to have a htc vogue (aka htc touch vx 6900 US Cellular) that would run android eclair but slowly. i was due for an upgrade and picked up the more powerful touch pro 2 specifically to run android smoother. i love the dual boot between a nice custom win mo rom and android,however, ive noticed there isnt nearly as many diffrent android developers trying to port or whatever the term is to get it to work on the touch pro 2 like there is with win mobile roms. project android froyo ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff but even on a overclock runs like crap,lagging and not running certain apps. the klinux eclair 2.1 sense UI is great but locks up,lags,no sounds and has no internet. neopeek's eclair runs the best out of them all,super fast and responsive but no internet,no live wall paper and no sounds.
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project or update that can bring me as close to a functioning android OS that will work. eclair looks promising on speed,but there is to much that is still broke on it. thx
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can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works, im not trying to criticize any of the developers here or not be appreciative. im just looking to have android run as smooth as everyone else does on their tp2.
TP2 Development
I am experiencing the same situation as you, but understand the TP2 is still under heavy development. Now that sound is working I would imagine stability and other features will be addressed in the next few weeks. If you want a phone that will work perfectly with Android switch to the HTC Desire that US Cellular just put out a few weeks back, it ships with Android. You can buy yourself out of the contract pro-rated for the time you have left. You cannot expect a phone that ships with Windows Mobile to run Android flawlessly. If you want to increase progress you can download the development tools and help, or you can post a bounty for items you would like addressed. You could also download the 6/20 version of MightyROM and enjoy a stable WM6.5 build. Good luck!
They all work, just to varying degrees.
([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff
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That's probably the best build right there. If you were expecting Android to run flawlessly on your fancy new phone, you are very, very mistaken.
If you want Android to run like it does on Android-specific devices... then you probably should've bought an Android device.
yea, i know its still under dev, but its like i have to choose between lag on froyo builds but almost everything works,or eclair builds that run as smooth as silk but miss out on my data connection,gps,ect ect.
ive just spent so much time into studying everything into android development and installation/updates ect ect and i still haven't even scratched the surface and it becomes frustrating after a full month of installing and deleting and back and forth testing,trust me, i know we all do the same here,but my eyes are burning from reading so many forums/topics/guides and i figure ill just ask if anyone has got a few of the bugs i have mentioned out of the way.
i can appreciate that somethings dont work cause thats just the way it is,but the kicker here is that the froyo build has almost everything working correctly, not to go back right not and look at the topic,but the only thing thats not working is camera,battery and bluetooth i think? and no big deal i dont need it anyways right now, but why cant i get an eclair build in the same working order?
i just would of thought that what could be applied to froyo could just as easily been applied to eclair.
im on neopeek v1.1 eclair right now,im going to see if i can get my data connection for US cell to work with a few tweaks,but ill miss the live wallpapers and gps.
C'est la vie buddy.
lol,now after applying a fix for US cell's data network gps works but no data
rofl,this stuff is killing me! lol
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works
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This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
redpoint73 said:
This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
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I'm not sure what to tell you. I doubt my phone works any better than yours or anyone elses - it's FAR from perfect, as you've found and evidently have accepted.
So wait and be patient for new developments with the project - it's always gotten better & better.
With that said, I can only assume eclair development stopped because I know I'd prefer to run froyo over eclair... You can try throwing a new zImage/modules/rootfs at an eclair build, but no guranatees there.
Did you ever think it could be your SD card? Have you tried switching them out? Have you done a FULL (not quick) format to FAT32?
Froyo runs WAY faster than Eclair EVER did on my handset. There is no doubt about the difference, and thats why development shifted away from a dying and outdated version.
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
ambegojapes said:
the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
this is actually my 10th or more install of prj android froyo and this time for some weird reason it is faster.
yes i did format the sd card the long way, i used gparted live cd as well because i had to set it up for neopeek in 2 partitions . i have two sd cards at 2 and 4 gigs (i swap between) that i just decided to keep a 512mb partition in ext2 for projects like neopeek on both of them.
regardless this time around is giving me a faster experience on froyo, and i didnt edit change anything,just the common install with a soft restart as usual.i am using the blazn overclock i believe it is 716 or 768 mhz.
and of coarse i will keep you posted on any changes or fixes i find.
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
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what is it with you people, didn't mommy and daddy love you enough as a child and teach you if you dont have anything good to say then dont say it all. who is belittling developers? i didnt come in here saying i think some one from this project or that is retarded,as a matter of fact i am grateful for the work these people have done and your trying to belittle me. im explaining what issues im having between different projects and jerks like you are trying to make me look like the bad guy.so comon down from your high horse and actually read what im talking about instead of jumping of the handle and making your self look like a complete jackass. yet once again, you miss the point. if i wanted an android phone i would of got one from the beginning ,i got a tp2 obviously to play around with android,see what it can do,what i can do to it and other reasons. ive got a few dev tools to create software for android i would like to use, so im asking questions, and if you sat a computer for as long as i have researching this with 30 or more tabs open trying to take notes from other threads,you'd be sick of reading all this other crap and post your own experiences/questions too.
and im a little well wiser than to keep stroking your ego,because people like you starve for the attention,otherwise you wouldnt jump into this thread to post your snotty ass comments.so if you wanna keep talking crap instead of offering something insightful to say,go ahead,cause im done dealing with **** heads like you.
Well another thread where you all jump on someone and make him look like an asshole for asking questions. How can you help people when you treat them like ****? I've been working with Linux and Android for a while now and I bet half of you write code that looks like a kid scribbling on the back of a McDonald´s napkin. I tell you what.. Treat people better and you just might have more people to aid in the projects and to the functionally quality. I have been messing with Linux and the open source development scene for years and this is a joke. Like a bunch of kids with computers and a power trip but on the same token you all write code like old people ****