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Visit Groubal and sign the petition: http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/52265679990169600
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
UPDATE (14th June 2011):
We are now over the 10,000 mark.
I have now spoken with Motorola and gotten confirmation that Motorola plan to unlock every device that will get an update in the second half of this year. This will include maintenance & firmware updates, but is still subject to Carrier approval.
The promising sign is that Verizon has already allowed Motorola to unlock a device on their network, the Xoom, which utilizes the unlockable/re-lockable model that Motorola intends on using across their devices.
I'm still looking to work with Motorola in the coming months to help see if we can make this a smooth process for Motorola and the community.
You can read the article here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
UPDATE (26th April 2011):
We are now at ~8,700 mark.
Motorola has now responded to me, stating that they are looking at unlocking bootloaders across their devices late 2011.
The article for the story can be found here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/#more-8184
We're still seeking clarity around whether this will be for current devices or only future devices.
I couldn't have gotten this far without the support of everyone here. You guys and girls have been a huge support and help me turn this snowball into a wrecking ball.
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
Previous Update (4th April 2011):
We are now at ~7600 mark.
We're starting to slow down from our initial boom, so I have now set up a Facebook page to see if we can wrangle in some supporters that don't use Twitter or XDA.
I will need your help getting this out there. So share the facebook page where you can.
I'm also looking to see if anyone is interested in helping me Moderate the page. Please PM if you are.
Original Post:
Hi All,
I have created a Groubal (online petition) to get a response from Motorola on it's bootloader policy.
>>This petition started for the Atrix, but I made sure that it was for Motorola's overall Bootloader Policy. I have reached 200 signatures in 2 weeks, but now believe it's time to expand this out of the Atrix space and into the larger Motorola Dev community.
Just signed the petition.
It could be me but non of your links work
How could you sign the petiton dedraks?
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It could be me but non of your links work
How could you sign the petiton dedraks?
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Thanks for the heads up on that. I'll be more careful when copying and pasting links.
Let's try this:
http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
spamnco said:
It could be me but non of your links work
How could you sign the petiton dedraks?
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Use this shor link: http://4by.in/4
Not that it'll make any difference but your petition is more likely to be taken seriously if comments like that of 'rich fraley' weren't included.
Signed, at length...
Step666 said:
Not that it'll make any difference but your petition is more likely to be taken seriously if comments like that of 'rich fraley' weren't included.
Signed, at length...
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Yeah, agreed. I tried seeing if I could at least censor the comment, but no dice.
Thanks for you're support guys. I've always been a big fan of the saying "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar".
Famous idea. You got the sign.
i have signed
Not to kill the cause... but the issue isnt really with motorola... Isnt it with the service providers who would rather have the bootloaders on the phones locked so they can sell us services we could install for free... ie Wi-fi Calling, Tethering..
I think Motorola's hands are tied.. their customers are the service providers.
Would it make more sense to harass t-mobile and the likes over this?
Signed as well.
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Not to kill the cause... but the issue isnt really with motorola... Isnt it with the service providers who would rather have the bootloaders on the phones locked so they can sell us services we could install for free... ie Wi-fi Calling, Tethering..
I think Motorola's hands are tied.. their customers are the service providers.
Would it make more sense to harass t-mobile and the likes over this?
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On all phones that have locked and encrypted bootloaders, I don't think there's been one that couldn't be rooted. Once rooted, you have access to all the Tethering and WiFi Calling apps out there. So it could be the case, but all unlocking the bootloader does is let you use custom kernels that form the base of alternative roms. So bloatware be damned, it can removed fairly quickly and without even touching the bootloader.
It would be more for warranty claims, that's why the padlock picture on the very first screen's the way to go. That way if a phone is damaged due to modification, the carrier/manufacturer can turn you away due to voided warranty.
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i am looking into the legal side of the locked bootloader to see if theirs any loop holes in locking a phone when the manufacture is part of the open handset alliance
but i think the fastest way of the bootloader being unencrypted is to put up a cash reward for the person that unlocks it.
maybe if we can raise £1000 it might spur someone on to go the extra mile
ketonkss4 said:
Not to kill the cause... but the issue isnt really with motorola... Isnt it with the service providers who would rather have the bootloaders on the phones locked so they can sell us services we could install for free... ie Wi-fi Calling, Tethering..
I think Motorola's hands are tied.. their customers are the service providers.
Would it make more sense to harass t-mobile and the likes over this?
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So why is my unlocked/un-branded Defy that is in no way tied to any network also cursed with a locked bootloader?
And if the networks are demanding it, how come not every manufacturer is crippling their handsets in this way?
This is a decision Motorola have made, no-one else.
#UnlockMoto
Thanks :-D
You can also join the #UnlockMoto campain and spread the word on social media networks like Twitter as well as on modding forums and such.
Start by joining the #UnlockMoto Campain for Motorola Unlocked Bootloaders! here: http://twb.ly/UnlockMoto.
Then read: http://bit.ly/UnlockMotoPage
done, signed
signed!!!
Just signed.
adlx.xda said:
Thanks :-D
You can also join the #UnlockMoto campain and spread the word on social media networks like Twitter as well as on modding forums and such.
Start by joining the #UnlockMoto Campain for Motorola Unlocked Bootloaders! here: http://twb.ly/UnlockMoto.
Then read: http://bit.ly/UnlockMotoPage
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Thanks for posting dude, i've been sending out a tweet for the 2 causes.
Retweet:
http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/50306686350655488
Just got this via twitter:
http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-...itterwp&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Microsoft and the ChevronWP7 unlock team are teaming up to produce a low-cost developer unlock tool.
The tool will make Windows Phone development more accessible and allow developers to avoid the typical $99 per year cost of becoming a full Windows Phone developer. “The service will require a small fee to offset costs,” says ChevronWP7. “We assure you it will be more affordable than the App Hub.” ChevronWP7 recommends that those who wish to write and publish apps immediately should sign up to the App Hub.
“One of our goals was to make Windows Phone development more accessible,” said a statement from ChevronWP7 on Friday. “Plans have recently solidified and we can now reveal a solution we’ve been working on.” The developers didn’t release too many details on the unlock tool but it’s thought that the tool will simply allow developers to unlock their devices and experiment with applications before signing up to publish apps. ChevronWP7 has launched a “labs” section on its website, where it promises more information soon.
Microsoft originally blocked the ChevronWP7 application that unlocks Windows Phone 7 devices for homebrew third-party applications. Microsoft representatives met with Rafael Rivera and Long Zheng of the ChevronWP7 team earlier this year to discuss the tool and Microsoft’s plans to support homebrew applications on Windows Phone 7. ChevronWP7 famously released their Windows Phone 7 “unlock” tool in late Novermber that allowed owners to side load home-brew applications. The tool, named ChevronWP7, used a method to trick the OS into registering itself as a Windows Phone 7 developer device with the application rather than Microsoft directly. Microsoft normally charges $99 a year for the privilege of loading developer applications. ChevronWP7 pulled the tool at Microsoft’s request just two weeks after it was originally released. It was later revealed that Windows Phone 7 devices “phone home” after around two weeks to re-lock unofficial developer devices, rendering the tool useless.
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Watch this site for more info:
http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
but the closed hole of chevron after two weeks wasn't "microsoft" per se, only till nodo did microsoft completely close the hole. Even the chevron group publicly said that...
otherwise I would be eager to try it if I didn't have a student account but 3 xaps is horrid
Why are you complaing? Its good thing microsidt are with them.
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Why are you complaing? Its good thing microsidt are with them.
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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no one is complaining...
If your previous post wasn't a complaint, then I'm afraid I don't understand what you were trying to say.
An officially approved, permanent unlocking solution is coming very soon. The ChevronWP7 team has already confirmed that it won't be done through the App Hub (so it won't expire in a year), and the one-time small fee will go to the Chevron team, not Microsoft, and is only being charged to cover their hard work over the past several months. They did the work, not Microsoft.
The only thing this solution won't do is allow someone to publish to the Marketplace. That will still require a paid (or student) developer license.
I think its great that MS is supporting this and look forward to kicking a few nickels over to the Chevron team for their work.
I am impressed by MS and how cool they have become.
Power in numbers
Hey Guys,
my guess is, ms turned chevron to go white hat because they try to gain momentum in the app market and therefore have to present an appealing platform for devs by keeping piracy in check and making sure those pale, hardworking guys get their bucks rolling. As far as I understand, chevrons new and official unlocker will be a paid app to drag even those devs into the boat, which are unable or unwilled to pay for a ms dev account while on the other side keeping in check, that this solution wont be a backdoor to sideload pirated apps from the market. This approach would take some amount of security integration and maybe some new kind of app-drm or how ever you may call it. Till now this is mere speculation and just my two cents to the topic
Paid unlock feels totally wrong. Especially if it's just an unlock, without a service like Cydia. I personally don't mind paying for software and services, and it's not the $99 price tag that's stopping me from going the official route, but the paperwork hassle.
But requiring payment for jailbreaking is totally unacceptable, IMO.
RoboDad said:
If your previous post wasn't a complaint, then I'm afraid I don't understand what you were trying to say.
An officially approved, permanent unlocking solution is coming very soon. The ChevronWP7 team has already confirmed that it won't be done through the App Hub (so it won't expire in a year), and the one-time small fee will go to the Chevron team, not Microsoft, and is only being charged to cover their hard work over the past several months. They did the work, not Microsoft.
The only thing this solution won't do is allow someone to publish to the Marketplace. That will still require a paid (or student) developer license.
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1. correction of the article which noted microsoft closed the hole 2 weeks later. They didn't until nodo [edit whoopsie misread that one]
2. I said openly I was intrigued by the idea, and even if I have a student account I'm still intrigued
With this I will can use File Manager with full access (more than documents, windows folders) for LG Optimus 7?
minep said:
With this I will can use File Manager with full access (more than documents, windows folders) for LG Optimus 7?
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I doubt it
what does evry1 here think they will charge? coz $1 to $98 is a huge range.
i would be more than happy to pay a one off fee of no more than £10.....
but then again if its a one off fee and the unlock is perpetual through all updates
i may pay a bit more..
ps. happy fathers day to all the dads
yeah but don't you have to pay to jailbreak now? IMO it's not worth it. i was hoping this would allow custom UI's and such but it just seems micro$oft found yet another way to milk the cash cow.
Great news!
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but don't you have to pay to jailbreak now? IMO it's not worth it. i was hoping this would allow custom UI's and such but it just seems micro$oft found yet another way to milk the cash cow.
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You should have read the thread completely. It's not Microsoft that charges the users for the tool, but the Chevron team.
I for one consider it a great possibility to pay a one time fee and then be able to write applications for my device and use them on it.
dkp1977 said:
You should have read the thread completely. It's not Microsoft that charges the users for the tool, but the Chevron team.
I for one consider it a great possibility to pay a one time fee and then be able to write applications for my device and use them on it.
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I know. That's exactly what I've been trying to tell people, but everyone around here seems so eager to jump on the extremely misguided "I've been betrayed! They're thieves!" train. I could go on about that particular topic, but what's the point. Let the bitter people enjoy their bitterness.
I'll gladly pay the one-time small fee (I think the Chevron team more than deserves it), and then I'll have a permanently unlocked phone. Even after Mango is released. Even if I have to hard reset some time in the future.
Thank You.
Thank you MS and the Chevron team for coming up with this solution. Good for you Microsoft.
sounds good but...
http://www.withinwindows.com/2011/06/20/short-windows-phone-mango-blocks-interop-services-apps/
I read this the other night and I would like to know what effect this will have on apps sideloaded with Chevronlabs.
It will most likely affect them in the exact same way it affects official app hub developer unlocked phones.
From everything they have told us so far, phones unlocked with the new Chevron service will behave exactly the same as app hub unlocked phones. The only difference will be that you won't be able to submit apps to the marketplace.
So, whatever works on an app hub unlocked phone will work on a Chevron unlocked phone, and anything that doesn't work on one, won't work on the other.
http://wmpoweruser.com/chevronwp7-shuts-down-handsets-to-be-re-locked-in-120-days/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598050
What the hell man, this is just crazy what is Microsoft thinking? This will only drive more people away from the platform and will keep phone sales at the rate they are now or lower. Who in the world wants to pay $99 a year just to be able to customize a phone? I personally do currently pay the $99 but will stop soon this is just a death sentence for Windows phone, really someone over at MS gets fired over this.
do you realize that most people would not care about these stuff, and we only nerds that like to hack our phones will matter. Maybe microsoft has something better in store? possibly in apollo we will get sideloading capabilities and other power user functions.
lovenokia said:
do you realize that most people would not care about these stuff, and we only nerds that like to hack our phones will matter. Maybe microsoft has something better in store? possibly in apollo we will get sideloading capabilities and other power user functions.
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I sure hope you are right my friend. Maybe Apollo won't have all this Apple style locked down crap.
what it means, in practice?
In practice, what this means for me?
I've a Samsung WP unlocked by Chevron. So, I've installed Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps... this means that after the 120 days, theses apps won't work in my phone?
So basically MS and the Chevron team just ripped off everyone that went and bought a token? I thought the token was forever, was there ever any metntion that it would expire in the future? if not this sounds like a scam, well for those who paid. I see a law suit.
sinister1 said:
What the hell man, this is just crazy what is Microsoft thinking? This will only drive more people away from the platform and will keep phone sales at the rate they are now or lower. Who in the world wants to pay $99 a year just to be able to customize a phone? I personally do currently pay the $99 but will stop soon this is just a death sentence for Windows phone, really someone over at MS gets fired over this.
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seen the latest articles about lumia sales lately? I'll assume not since you insisted on posting this.
Side loaded apps
Like most people, I just want to know if apps already side loaded will continue to work after the tokens are revoked? If they do work, it may be possible to keep it unlocked through a Registry Editor, Root Tools etc.
sinister1 said:
So basically MS and the Chevron team just ripped off everyone that went and bought a token? I thought the token was forever, was there ever any metntion that it would expire in the future? if not this sounds like a scam, well for those who paid. I see a law suit.
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I don't see any law suits as Microsoft as offered to refund $99 and swap Chevron unlock for App Hub Developer unlock.
However, interesting thing would be how many $9 unlocks are from non-supported countries!?
Surely out of 10,000 there are at least 100 people who paid $9 and don't have access to App Hub - those can go for a law suit unless Microsoft is going to make up for it in any other fashion in a separate announcement.
sinister1 said:
So basically MS and the Chevron team just ripped off everyone that went and bought a token? I thought the token was forever, was there ever any metntion that it would expire in the future? if not this sounds like a scam, well for those who paid. I see a law suit.
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Yeah, I'm pissed that I was only renting the unlocker....this was definitely a hose job....these dudes are re-locking already paid for phones.
Side-loaded apps will probably cease to work, just as they do if you were to relock your device now.
quicoli said:
In practice, what this means for me?
I've a Samsung WP unlocked by Chevron. So, I've installed Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps... this means that after the 120 days, theses apps won't work in my phone?
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Yes, probably lol.
Pathetic.
MSFT is giving away free APP HUB accounts for these users. Is no one else reading it?
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....the app hub is yearly, so we got a year long account for $9...what was I complaining about
/sarcasm.
quicoli said:
In practice, what this means for me?
I've a Samsung WP unlocked by Chevron. So, I've installed Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps... this means that after the 120 days, theses apps won't work in my phone?
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You're one of the people who make me disgusted at this community. Nokia apps (and other OEM apps) are device specific. You need to buy those devices to get those apps, as those apps on other devices is called stealing. Yet, this entire community insists they are entitled to things they have never paid for... Most of you don't want these accounts to "develop" or contribute, you want these accounts to sideload apps you have no way of paying for/getting.
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You're one of the people who make me disgusted at this community. Nokia apps (and other OEM apps) are device specific. You need to buy those devices to get those apps, as those apps on other devices is called stealing. Yet, this entire community insists they are entitled to things they have never paid for... Most of you don't want these accounts to "develop" or contribute, you want these accounts to sideload apps you have no way of paying for/getting.
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My point! Thanks!! Hence $9 for whatever time it was unlocked for + a year of sideloading stuff (not developing anything) - more than enough!
I don't mind the side loading. I mind the people coming in here to ***** about not having any way to load stolen software into their phone... Its just pathetic. I would understand if you're developing your ass off, but you're stealing... C'mon...
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i did the chevron unlock than used the interlop unlock will i be affected ?
FiyaFleye said:
You're one of the people who make me disgusted at this community. Nokia apps (and other OEM apps) are device specific. You need to buy those devices to get those apps, as those apps on other devices is called stealing. Yet, this entire community insists they are entitled to things they have never paid for... Most of you don't want these accounts to "develop" or contribute, you want these accounts to sideload apps you have no way of paying for/getting.
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I could be wrong, but didn't Nokia release these apps in the earlier versions for other non-Nokia devices? Of course (now) Nokia is claiming that their updated apps will be only for Nokia devices. Not condoning piracy here, but I don't see a problem with side loading device specific apps on other Windows Phones. These apps are free to the the users anyway right? -Well most of them... As we all know, each manufacturer has its own collection of apps for their devices. -And we can all agree there are apps that are better than others in each manufacturer app store. If the apps are free, I find it a little ridiculous to say that Windows Phone users would have to go and buy a certain WP just to be able to use a device for a specific free app on their phone. -Now if each manufacturer released their apps to EVERY WP device with the apps being free for that specific device and had a paid version for non-specific devices, my argument would be irrelevant here. -But we know this is not the case.
Anyway, yes I do agree somewhat that some users want their phones dev unlocked just to sideload apps that they themselves didn't develop or buy, but I have to say that I believe some/most members here on XDA contribute to some form or fashion to the development/modding/hacking phone world. I myself became a Windows Mobile/Phone developer because I was amazed at what I could do with my phone when I first started getting into flashing roms for Windows Mobile. I kept on coming back to this forum to see what I could do next with my phone. I finally realized that I couldn't wait for the next thing to come out for my phone, so I started learning the development side of the phone. As the years kept rolling on, I became very familiar with the development process and even made quite a bit of money on my apps. -So the point is, calling people out on wanting the dev unlocks just to sideload restricted apps on their phones is sort of unfair. You and I do not know the motives of the other users on this forum.
Hello all,
You might have been heard about the news from ChevronWP7 Labs saying the unlock they sold while ago will expire in 120 days from today.
My question is, how does the expiration work?
Suppose both my PC and my phone do not have internet connection, how does the phone get developer locked back?
Does it have some kind of time bomb already since I unlocked it?
Thanks!
In Q&A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598050
OK, thanks your message but it does not answer my question.
I don't have answers but would like this discussion in the Q&A on one thread. This needs some serious investigation.
andreiuc said:
Hello all,
You might have been heard about the news from ChevronWP7 Labs saying the unlock they sold while ago will expire in 120 days from today.
My question is, how does the expiration work?
Suppose both my PC and my phone do not have internet connection, how does the phone get developer locked back?
Does it have some kind of time bomb already since I unlocked it?
Thanks!
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This is a presumption. The unlock of the phone is tied to a certificate that is only valid for a certain timeframe. So, the phone validates the "unlock" certificate each time an operation is requesting access to an otherwise locked feature (such as developer tasks). The certificate is only valid for a specific timeframe, which in ChevronWP7's case expires in 120 days. So, when the phone tries to validate the "unlock" certificate it will fail and the phone will deny access to the requested feature.
Thanks. So it does work like a time-bomb.
In this case, does this mean Chevron knew about this before?
andreiuc said:
Thanks. So it does work like a time-bomb.
In this case, does this mean Chevron knew about this before?
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And if this be the case how do they get away with all the thousands of dollars they made out with like bandits because they knew all along the 9 dollar unlock was not a real unlock...
Already side loaded apps?
Like most people I want to know if apps already side loaded will continue to work after the tokens are revoked? If they do work, it may be possible to keep it unlocked through a Registry Editor, Root Tools etc
JamesAllen said:
Like most people I want to know if apps already side loaded will continue to work after the tokens are revoked? If they do work, it may be possible to keep it unlocked through a Registry Editor, Root Tools etc
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If you have access to the registry, you can just remove that developer check URL (I don't know it's official name) to stay unlocked.
Otherwise if you connect to Zune and your token has expired, you will lose your unlock and you won't be able to launch sideloaded apps anymore.
I bought chevron unlock then I made my mozart interopunlocked, is my phone also will be locked again?
majkeljj said:
I bought chevron unlock then I made my mozart interopunlocked, is my phone also will be locked again?
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No locked, if you register your Chevron account in Microsoft App Hub (http://create.msdn.com/en-us/home/membership). Then you get developer account on one year by free. ONLY IF YOU REGISTER BEFORE 10 august 2012.
Source: http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/21027437967/the-chevronwp7-labs-experiment-comes-to-an-end
You read my blog in Polish: http://encyklopediawindowsphone.pl
from chevron
’’ While we kicked butt on the former, the latter didn’t work out so well. Our data indicates that most developers simply unlocked their devices for non-developmental reasons and never went all the way to publish an app in the marketplace. There was also some confusion about the actual purpose of the ChevronWP7 service –some folks thought we provided SIM-unlock capabilities, while others thought we were a hacker group providing full root access. On top of this, there were a larger than expected number of support emails.
As a result, both sides amicably agreed to discontinue the ChevronWP7 Labs experiment.’’
Lol actually they are some kinfs of thieves suckers ass holes..
sorry about it but it is really frustrating for people who paid
Jean-Simon Chénard
Sent from Samsung Galaxy i9100 using Tapatalk
I would say to all people that used the Chevron Unlock Token method to demand your money back. Seems like a rip off!!!!
Homebrew Apps
geddeeee said:
I would say to all people that used the Chevron Unlock Token method to demand your money back. Seems like a rip off!!!!
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I would go further than that. If the revocation of the token causes any of the homebrew apps you installed on the phone to cease to function, I would urge everyone who purchased tokens to consider a class action suit against MS and Chevron Labs.
JamesAllen said:
I would go further than that. If the revocation of the token causes any of the homebrew apps you installed on the phone to cease to function, I would urge everyone who purchased tokens to consider a class action suit against MS and Chevron Labs.
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MS won't be involved in the law suit. It's a third party as far sa it's concerned. Only people who can file a suit against MS here will be ChevronWP7. It's like you protesting against Middle East for the rise in Petrol. You always do it against the govt. of your country.
BTW - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24890667&postcount=30
You can get a refund. ChevronLabs are refunding $9 even for a used token if you don't want to take the AppHub option. Ofcourse phone relocks.
lol wait a minute
it is saying on the main page of chevron as a trademark : unleash the potential of your windows phone
now they said on their blog they made an end to this because majoriry of people didnt create an app........
but the term is clear..
you really should fight to keep ur phone unlock without subcribing to anything
Jean-Simon Chénard
Sent from Samsung Galaxy i9100 using Tapatalk
Anyone feel scammed? I've been using custom ROMs so I didn't buy a token but this is a pretty bad move for ChevronWP7. Hiding a "this could only be temporary" clause in your TOS is a pretty sly move to get people to think they're getting something they're not. I imagine they're going to have 9000 refund requests. People want Homebrew as end-users, not as developers.
I feel scammed. They never stated this would only work for a certain period of time, and if you want your 'free developers account' you have to pay for it anyway, although you do get a refund after a couple of months.
I figured there was already a petition to unlock the bootloader, but I didn't find one.
So, I made a petition.
You can find it here:
https://www.change.org/p/amazon-com...re-phone-to-allow-custom-roms-to-be-installed
Please vote!
XR01 said:
I figured there was already a petition to unlock the bootloader, but I didn't find one.
So, I made a petition.
You can find it here:
https://www.change.org/p/amazon-com...re-phone-to-allow-custom-roms-to-be-installed
Please vote!
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Thank you for the support! There are 65 signatures so far. I am going to re-write the petition to make it more organized, clearer, and more convincing. If anyone has recommendations on what to include, please let me know. I will take out the criticism of the Fire Phone, and move it toward opening the Fire Phone to the opportunity for an extended life and appreciation. Also, I will add the email of the Project Manager of Amazon devices to the petition.
I've thought of giving a brief history of the phone and adding more info about HTC's successful unlock program, and the longevity of the HP TouchPad which had a similar situation in which WebOS hampered excellent hardware due to limited applications available and later became the 2nd most popular tablet of 2011 after a fire sale and bootloader unlock.
Signed. I hope they will see it and they eventually come around. Thanks for taking the time to set the petition up.
signed !
Signed!
Thank you. I signed it.
Almost to 100
Less than 10 signatures left to reach 100!!
I have a lot of good comments on there, thanks!
I provided more details and links in the petition description, and also directed it to the CEO and Project Manager. Hopefully we get a definitive answer soon.
Signed.
I signed.
yup
XR01 said:
I figured there was already a petition to unlock the bootloader, but I didn't find one.
So, I made a petition.
You can find it here:
https://www.change.org/p/amazon-com...re-phone-to-allow-custom-roms-to-be-installed
Please vote!
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whatever you can do to entice them toward their "brand and identity value" vs. resale or obsolescence cycle would be great.
Just done it.
Signed !
me too!
signed!
I would LOVE to have an unlocked bootloader. I don't know enough about delving into the specifics of the programming, but every single phone I've had I've unlocked and loaded something on it, even if I turned it back to stock later (MyTouch 3G comes to mind...). I don't want this phone to end up like all the other phones sitting in my drawer taking up space after a little while, I'd love to keep using this beautiful hardware for at least another year!
signed, but i do not believe, Amazon will be moved. They made the phone to hook people on to their services' eco system. Unlocking will counter that and they really don't care about money, any phone sold but operating without their eco system is anyways loss to them..
Singed.
Singd. Plz Jeff Beezös, giv bootloedr and pliz gib moniiz so i can bui iPhöne 6 Pluzz.
(I didn't actually sign it, because: reality...)
up to 512
Signed:good:
Excellent idea! Of course I signed it!
I signed it too, but he could just not care at all and keep it locked.