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Vito Winterface v1.2 as default UI

Hey people,
I downloaded Vito Winterface v1.2 and really like it..
However, it seems that I have to run Winterface and Touch Flo 3D simultaneously and cannot use the Winterface as the default UI.
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
Thanks.
BTW - you guys are great!

there may be much more elegant technical solutions or workarounds here but...
with Yota Contacts App I make and receive phone calls with disabled TF3D
dont know, but with TF3D there must be an internal phone app, which with chance may be startet seperately? Then you dont have to install a third party phone app...

I can make phonecalls just fine when I disable TF3D... I do not believe the phone-function is part of TF3D, or vice versa (could be wrong though, but it seems unlogical to me).

RustyJoe said:
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
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I've given V1.2 a go. A very close mimic of iPhone's desktop I must say, including the way we could move the icons around, and the little dots at the bottom indicating the number of pages and the currect page.
I have unticked TF3D on the today item screen, and it is still possible to make calls. That's not a problem for me.
I do have a few questions to anyone more familiar with winterface than I am.
1) The winterface unread mail counter does not get reduced as and when mails are read. I even tried ending and restarting winterface but the counter stays undated. After some time, however, with what seems to be an scheduled update within winterface, the counter was corrected. Is there a way to make this update instant?
2) I find the process of adding appllication to the desired page a little challenging. The added application always go the first page, and we then have to drag it to the desired page. Would be nice to be able to directly add to the desired page. Anyone knows of a way to do this directly?
3) I find the navigation from page to page rather jerky. It is far from the smoothness of iPhone or iPod. Any remedy for this?
4) The gesture for bringing up winterface does not seem to work predictably. Sometimes it works, sometime I kept drawing the reverse V but nothing happens. Is there a trick on how we should draw it?
5) There is a facility to add "Favourite". Anyone know what this is? Is it internet explorer favourite? OR favourite contact records? How do we add the entries? I just see a blank screen and back arrow, but don't see anyting there. Is that taking the using Vito Fun Contact Favourites? Anyone using Fun contact and Winterface who can tell us?
Edit: Found the answer. It takes the input from \windows\favorites, and let us choose from there, which of the entries we want to convert into an icon to be launched from winterface. The concept is nice, but it uses Pocket IE rather than Opera. What a pity.
6) I noticed that winterface never use the last two icon slots at the bottom right. Anyone knows why and if there is a way to fill these two spaces up?
Edit: Now I know the reason. When I turn it into landscape, the number of icons would exactly fill up the screen.

RustyJoe said:
Hey people,
I downloaded Vito Winterface v1.2 and really like it..
However, it seems that I have to run Winterface and Touch Flo 3D simultaneously and cannot use the Winterface as the default UI.
When I turn on my HTC HD it goes to the Winterface UI automatically and the TF3D remains un-launched. The used memory indicates it is in the lower 20s (percent). As soon as I want to make or receive a phone call, I have to launch TF3D and then the used memory is up to the high 30s even 40%.
Is it possible to use Winterface without TF3D? That would make the phone much faster..
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
Thanks.
BTW - you guys are great!
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You don't need TF3D ticked to make phone calls. If you press your phone hardware button it should take you directly to the dial pad were you can start punching in names or numbers and your contact should show up.
I personally don't like the default contact app so I've downloaded Inesoft Phone 4. I love the way this program transforms the call history, dialer, Caller ID skin, favorites, and contacts!

Winterface draining battery?
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?

igloo said:
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?
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are you using 1.2 ? aparently that fixes power drain problems that earlier versions had
I also read somewhere that bluetooth notification could cause a drain too
Gary

igloo said:
I have installed Winterface on my HD and this is strange:
without any real action (no phone calls, no games, no internet, etc.) the battery lasts only for less than 14 hours. Something is continously working in the background and using up the energy.
With TF3D there is mostly one segment (so I assume 10%) battery consumed after 14 hours if at all.
Has anybody else this issue as well?
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Lol! I couldn't go 1 hour without using my HD let alone 14 hours!

Pandemoniumone said:
Lol! I couldn't go 1 hour without using my HD let alone 14 hours!
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It happens that I am at work where I use another communications infrastructure on the one hand and on the other hand I wanted to have a real comparision between the battery usage of TF3D and Winterface.
I agree with you on after hours of at leisure times 200% ...

garyjmobey said:
are you using 1.2 ? aparently that fixes power drain problems that earlier versions had
I also read somewhere that bluetooth notification could cause a drain too
Gary
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Yes, I have installed the 1.2 version; that's what the support asked first as well. But they have not provided any solution until now. I am waiting for a new release...
Bluetooth notification: this is something which should not be Winterface specific. I mean, with TF3D I should have the same drain of battery with that turned on?
Thanks for your comments...

Im useing Winterface 1.2.
Have a few problems too.
I cant place any icon on the two down leftmost positions. I can only have 18 icons
at each page in portrait mode. Strange isnt it? Looks pretty bad too.
I also think it runns slow on my touch HD.
Like it only runs in 10 FPS.
Anything anybody else noticed?

RustyJoe said:
Hey people,
I tried to un-tick the TF3D box on the Today screen, then it was impossible to make phone calls..
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You don't need TF3D to make phone calls in HD. Just press the phone hardware button and there ya go.

[Investigation] App launch hangs in Darkside ROMs

This discussion started in this development thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623430
First off there are 2 different issues related to app hangs.
1) An issue with root apps hanging. This has been fixed with an updated superuser (@wraithdu v3.1) and Busybox (@wraithdu v1.19.4). This is not the issue being discussed in this thread.
2) An issue with non-root apps failing to launch. This includes random apps failing to launch from the app drawer and home screens (of various launchers, TW, Apex, GO, Nova). This includes the Phone app opening and displaying mostly a black screen. Existing apps that are open in the background still function and can be opened.
Issue #2 has been seen since Darkside released the first ICS ROMs. Specifically I have reproduced it in Evolution.3 Beta03, v1, v2, v4, v5.
Here are some of the relevant posts in chronological order:
Here is the first report that I found via search:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26006665&highlight=app+hang#post26006665
expl0it4 said:
The launcher freezing and apps not opening along with su not granting permissions and/or freezing have been my only complaints. I'm running aokp now but really want to come back but I can't stand rebooting once or twice a day because of these lockups.
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Another report with little info:
dajakil said:
Is anyone else having an issue that every once in a while, all the apps stop working and/or the apex launcher hangs? This has been common for me at least once a day...if so, how can i fix it? I'm new here so please go easy
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I posted here thinking that I might have fixed it (turned out I spoke too soon):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26170760&highlight=app+hang#post26170760
Another update from me:
Splaktar said:
Got a couple lock ups, hangs, reboots, etc tonight while on wifi. Was either using Go Launcher to open Gmail or posting in Facebook app with SwiftKey X. Reboot resolved the issue and I could not reproduce.
I was just about to install this on the wife's phone, but can't really make it through 2 days without a forced reboot or freeze. Hopefully TMO gives us another leak or the real thing soon.
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And another:
Splaktar said:
I'm still needing to reboot at least once per 48 hours due to apps hanging or not starting.
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A good post with some helpful information:
PrjmeTjme said:
I too am experiencing the unresponsiveness. I'll be using it and then all of a sudden nothing works and I have to reboot. I didn't do a Darkside Super Cache Wipe prior to installing and I think the rom does a Darkside Super Wipe for you before it installs itself.
BTW, I wasn't closing any apps via task manager and I only restored DATA to the apps that automatically downloaded from the Play Store. Not really sure if that matters at all or not in the issue of unresponsiveness.
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Reports from v4 start coming in:
safeplayer22 said:
Ok, running ADW launcher and was running fine until this morning. It seems like it happens if you leave the phone untouched for a certain period of time (overnight). Then the touch to launch an app becomes unresponsive.
I am not using TW because I would need to re-do the whole home screen setting if I ever update to another version. btw, i'm running V4 right now and so far no other problems.
Edit: just got a reboot hang even after using the darkside wipe.
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The first suggestion that this is likely an app problem and that the ROM is fine:
pyraxiate said:
Using Apex here. Installed and running since release with zero issues. When I was on v2, I had this happen while using apex, and narrowed it down to an application hanging. Once I was finally able to get into settings and forced closed it, the launcher began working properly again. The only way I was able to get into settings was by having it up prior to the hanging, and held the home button to bring up task manager. Give that a shot and let us know.
I don't use TI , scripts, or change cpu settings. Always a 2x darkside wipe, flash, wait 10 minutes, then set up from scratch. Battery life is excellent ( 4 + hours screen on time ). Everyone with all these problems really should just run this ROM Naked.... its beautiful
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A response to this being an app issue:
safeplayer22 said:
Had to pull the battery went into recovery to wipe caches and fix permissions again. Now it's running good again. I'll try to FC in the task manager next time I get an unresponsive screen. I think you are right about an unresponsive app causing the unresponsive screen because it was working fine. the only thing I did prior to the screen hanging was turning of wifi tethering from the toggles.
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A claim that widgets that need root might be causing this. The only root needing widget that I use is Multi-mount lite and it has been enabled/installed during every app launch hang that I've seen.
pyraxiate said:
I think it might be an issue with the half root TDJ was taking about. I've noticed certain Widgets require root to be added to the homescreen. Maybe the widget is hanging because of improper permissions? Come to think of it, I was trying a wifi sharing toggle which caused my hangup
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Another report with very little information:
hpaulus said:
TDJ sometimes when i touch some app to open it.... Dont response and hang i have to restart....for the next build.....
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A response with a supposed quote that I don't see in the thread. I also late went on to test this and verify that this occurs even if you do not restore a single piece of data.
darkness122 said:
I believe he said this happens when you use a task killer or restored an app w data from GB
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I finally start attacking the issue scientifically:
Splaktar said:
Happened to me with Darkside beta03, v1, and v2 running Apex Launcher and Go Launcher EX.
I just flashed Darkside v4 and I'm in the middle of re-installing all apps and re-adding every account and configuration manually. Previous flashes involved restoring user apps w/ data so I'm trying to figure out if that has something to do with it.
Recovery is CWM 5.0.2.7 non-Touch as recommended in OP. Also I used none of the wiping options in the recovery and let the wipe scripts do it all.
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TDJ asks me to report back on my findings:
thederekjay said:
thanks. please report back and also what recovery are you using?
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I start working on repeatable reproduction steps for the issue:
Splaktar said:
CWM 5.0.2.7 non-Touch recovery as recommended in the OP. I let the super wipe script do all of the wiping and don't wipe with CWM.
OK, I just hit this with a fresh v4 install. Absolutely no data has been restored to my device from backups. I did let Google restore apps and I went into a number of them to login/configure.
Here are the steps leading up to hitting it and (whether or not they have been involved in previous reproductions):
0) Connect to WiFi. WiFi-Calling enabled. (always)
1) Play some music via Google Music or some other streaming source. (always)
2) Stream the music over BT (most always)
3) Have the phone plugged into USB charging on a desktop w/ usb storage off (most always)
4) Browse around my home screens which contain about 13 widgets on 8 screens (always)
5) Add remove and re-add widgets to a screen (sometimes)
6) Launch a previously unopened app (since reboot) from a shortcut on one of the home screens or from the app drawer (always)
7) Re-use an app that has recently been opened (always)
It is not as if following these steps one by one will reproduce this within 5 minutes. But this clean install lasted me only 1 hour 5 minutes before this app launch hang occurred.
This last reproduction I had just restarted my Launcher (Go Launcher EX) and was in the middle of re-adding a widget, but when I clicked on the widgets icon to open the list, nothing happened. So I gave up on that and backed out.
Then I opened an app on one of my home screens and it highlighted, but did not launch or open. Then I went to try some other apps with the same result. I also tried some in the app drawer, same result.
So then I long pressed home and selected an already open app. It came up just fine. I was able to use the app and then finally go back Home without any issues.
I also got the task manager open. I'm at 667/769 MB RAM. System storage is at 0.93 GB / 1.97 GB. USB and SD card storage are not close to full either. There is only one active app (the one that I just had opened). I did 'Exit All' and then closed task manager and tried to open an app. Same hang.
Try to access settings via widgets, nothing. Try to do Menu->Settings, nothing.
Try to open another hanging app, highlights, then nothing. Wait 5 minutes or so and the app, sort of opens... I get the title bar at top and the rest of the app is all black. Wait 5 more minutes, nothing changes. Can't go back to get out of it. But home takes me back to the home screen.
Open Phone app, it opens, but the back button from the app lags and does nothing, then finally instead of taking me back home, it takes me the last hung app w/ just the title and black screen.
Home again takes me out and back to the home screen. Menu works, so I do Restart of the Launcher. This results in the wallpaper displaying but the launcher does not ever redraw the screens (hung). Only the notification bar works at this point.
I guess I'll try to grab a logcat now since it's basically completely hosed now... no luck with a logcat. Can't get the device to show up in adb. Maybe USB debugging is still off since this is a completely fresh install w/o any data restored.
Edit: Rebooted, USB Debugging was turned on, but I guess it just couldn't launch it when it was connected. Device shows up fine now in adb.
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A theory about Busybox contributing to the issue emerges:
pyraxiate said:
I did notice something odd. Why are we using busybox for CM9? I know CM9 uses a different kernel layout. Could that be causing an issue ?
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I look into it:
Splaktar said:
Interesting find. I just upgraded my BusyBox to 1.20.1-Stericson. I will report back if I run into the app launching hang with this BusyBox. I did a full darkside cache wipe and reboot after upgrading just to try and make sure that everything would play nicely together.
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I report back on the status and respond to another theory that Superuser has something to do with the app launch hangs. I later reproduce the hangs on this same version that made it over 18 hours.
Splaktar said:
I had the same issues with v1 and beta03! apps would not launch, etc.
So Super SU fixes this or just the latest binary of Superuser? I'm currently running Superuser with su binary of v3.0.3.2.
I'm going on 18 hours without an app launch issue/reboot now that I have the new Busybox (1.20.1-Stericson). But I've made it this far before only to have apps hang after 22 hours or so. I'll be convinced once it makes it 5 days.
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A good point is brought up about the lack of ALPHA kernel being in the OP subject line and that app launch hangs are not listed in the known issues section even after 10+ reports by users:
thatlaoboi said:
I don't like stock though... And I really, REALLY like TDJ's work. But it just gets irritating sometimes. But just curious, why is not marked in the title that is using an alpha kernel. I mean, I know that it says in the changelog thingy, but that isn't really making it known. And maybe the reason why it been posted several times is that people don't want to/have the time to read through 600 pages of posts. And it isn't listed in the known problems, there it only says "Reboot/Shutdown Hangs", that's it. Nothing on no being able to open apps.
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Reports start coming in about the issue happening in v5:
rfail1988 said:
I just got the app opening freeze/hang on v5 now :-(
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I report on my testing in v5 and post a set of fairly quickly reproducible steps:
Splaktar said:
I'm still seeing the app launch hangs in v5. I had been running for almost 48 hours (my best yet) on v4 after upgrading to Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and staying with Superuser and the su binary v3.0.3.2. I only stopped using that to upgrade to v5 this morning.
I tried v5 using just the Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson along with SU binary v3.1 and still had a hang.
I also tried v5 with Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and Superuser with the su binary v3.0.3.2 and still had a hang.
I've been able to reproduce the problem fairly quickly by opening a lot of apps and processes that run in the background. After about 15 minutes, I can get it down to 90-150 MB of free RAM. Then turn off the screen and let the phone idle for about 10 minutes. Then within a bit more usage it will finally hang.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm trying to at least do what I can to get this figured out. I'm nandroid'ing my v5 install now and going back to my last v4 that ran for almost 48 hours to see if that was a fluke and if I can get it to hang on app launching.
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I throw out the theory that this is an issue with the stock/ROM kernel:
Splaktar said:
The goal is to get to the bottom of this issue and verify that a fix to the problem was successful or not. The goal is to eliminate all app launch hangs from this ROM.
I'm starting to think that it may be an issue with ICS or at least Samsung's version of it for the T989.
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I report back on my 100% clean v4 install and how it still hung. I talk about how the RAM is handled and that I don't ever seem to run out of RAM. The OS is freeing RAM from old apps and keeping my free RAM over 90 MBs all of the time. Also suggest that I will try to reproduce the issue on the stock rooted ROM.
Splaktar said:
Just got done nandroid'ing back to my v4 w/ Busybox 1.20.10-Stericson and Superuser and the su binary v3.0.3.2. I performed the same repro steps (it isn't anything close to trying to kill it) by just opening up some apps. Then letting the phone rest 10 minutes. Then opening up a few more apps. It still hung, so that combination of factors didn't fix anything and I was just lucky to get almost 48 hours out of it without a reboot.
I guess the next step it to load up Mr. X's stock ROM and see if I can reproduce the issue with the same steps there. It is nice to be able to reproduce it in 30 minutes now and not need to wait 6-40 hours for it to 'just happen'.
I'm really starting to think that it is an issue with Samsung/TMO's code. I did count the number of apps in ICS's task history view. It was 19. I'm not sure if 19 or 20 is the limit? It might be an issue with how that feature is implemented.
It doesn't seem to be a RAM issue because I am seeing Android clear up more RAM every time I get down below 100 MBs free and open a new app.
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A question about task killers and a claim that it might help manage the issue:
sinfulgray said:
Anyone that has app and/or launcher hangs do you ever clear your ram with the built in task manager? Are you leaving all your background app running? I'm a little ocd when it comes to my phone so I'm always clearing background apps and freeing up my ram. Just a thought
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My response:
Splaktar said:
I don't clear / kill any apps or use a task killer.
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A confirmation that you can't open the Task Manager unless it is already running (and hasn't been freed) if you see app launch hangs:
algorhythm said:
I can't even get into the task manager, I click on "Task Manager" and it just doesn't open, just like every other app.
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OK, there might have been some posts missed that didn't include "app" or "hang" but that it all that I've gathered up for now.

Added a post to redirect people with this issue to this new thread:
Splaktar said:
I've created a thread to investigate/debug the app launch hang issue. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27754152#post27754152
If you have issues with apps not launching from the app drawer, home screen, or widget, then please post your issues in that thread which is focused on this issue and not here.
It looks like this might be related to a certain app or set of apps being installed on top of this ROM that causes the issue.
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Additionally, I have been running the Stock Rooted ROM from 6/13 (with camera fixed) along with the modified Radio from the Darkside Evolution.3 thread for the last 3 hours.
I have tried to reproduce the issue which I have been able to reproduce in under 30 minutes on v4 and v5. But so far I have not been able to reproduce it. This is with only an extreme bare minimum of apps installed on top of the stock ROM (that I can't live without).
I am going to start restoring apps and widgets to the phone and then running the reproduction steps until I hit a hang. Then I will work on isolating the exact app or widget that is causing this problem.
Installed in initial version (my must have apps, no widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
SWTOR security key
Google Authenticator
TB
WeatherBug
Amazon Appstore
Google Drive
Gentle Alarm
SwiftKey X
Tapatalk
VIP Access
Google Voice
Installed in second version (my most suspect apps, but still no widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
Facebook
WhatsApp
Unlock With WiFi
Skype
Scorecenter
SetCPU
QuickBoot
ROM Manager
Multi Mount SD-Card Lite
Well I haven't gotten a hang yet on the Stock ROM but I did get it to soft boot TW and disconnect my WiFi and BT while streaming music on Google Music and setting up Sync on Facebook. So Facebook is looking quite suspicious. Has anyone reproduced the app hangs without Facebook installed?
This soft reboot of TW also caused the time to be switched to GMT which has been reported on the TMO support forums with the stock ROM.
I ran test #2 here for well over an hour and I could not get another soft reboot or a single app launch hang. I did get some stuttering of music and slowdowns due to overloading the CPU and/or RAM and garbage collection. But nothing was unrecoverable or did not resolve itself with some time to let the CPU catch up. No reboots were needed.
Installed in third version (my most suspect apps AND widgets).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
All apps from tests 1 and 2.
Scorecenter widget
Scorecenter video widget
Agenda widget
News and weather widget
Multi Mount SD-card lite widget
Google Voice widget
Digital Clock widget
I ran test #3 here for about another 45 minutes and saw no difference in performance or behavior. I did note that while the Multi Mount SD-card lite widget does show up in TW. Clicking on it does not appear to work (it delays a while and then gets su access, but never displays its dialog confirmaton). But it never caused a soft reboot or any app launch hangs.
Installed in fourth version (all of my apps, widgets, GO Launcher and Apex).
Unable to reproduce an app launch hang.
I've been banging on the stock ROM with all of my apps and widgets installed for over an hour now. I've seen 2 soft reboots, usually when RAM/CPU usage gets high and the OS can't handle things. It is possible that this bug triggers a soft reboot in the stock ROM but instead triggers the app launch hang bug in darkside ROMs. But I haven't generally noticed the phone slowing down and music stuttering when I've had the app launch hang issue, but I do very much notice it on the stock ROM right before a soft reboot.
I'm going to run this stock ROM w/ all apps/widgets over night and see if I can make it through. So far I've only been using TW. But in another hour or so I'll enable Go Launcher and Apex for a couple hours each.
Overnight update:
I ran Apex for about 30 minutes, no issues. Ran Go Launcher for about 2 hours of use plus overnight time. Everything is still working just fine this morning. Already put in about an hour worth of use this morning with no issues yet.
So far after over a full day or testing and following reproduction steps for hours (that I can cause an app launch hang with on Darkside v5 in ~20 minutes), I am not able to cause an app launch hang on the stock ROM.
Here are the stock issues that I did find, which if seen on Darkside should not be reported against the ROM or to TDJ:
1) soft reboots when OS gets overloaded, disconnects wifi, BT, etc shuts down all apps.
2) Soft reboots cause timezone to get set to GMT
Edit 06/27: I've now been running the Stock rooted ROM from Mr.X for at least 3 full days of regular usage without a single app launch hang. During regular usage, I haven't seen any of the soft reboots or timezone issues either. I have run into issues with uninstalling bloatware though. I keep getting Delete Failed when trying to remove it from /system/app.

Yeah I spoke too soon as well. Not getting the app not opening up issue. I'm currently on v5. For me, I noticed that the times it has happened. It's been on the lower quadrant of battery drain. So when my battery gets lower than 25%. Not sure if that makes a significance on how the ram is handled. I noticed also my battery will start to get hot after the issue occurs before I end up rebooting my device.
I have also tried fresh installing the ROM and installing my apps manually without using any app for restoring just in case that was the issue which it turns out not to be the case for me since it still happens.
I hope we get this thing squashed. Or I may finally switch to a different ROM or back to stock for me with bloat removed.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

I really don't think the launcher is (solely?) to blame. When you open the Phone app, it opens (unlike everything else) but opens to a black screen with a blue gradient bar on top. You can also swipe away running apps via long-press home. It sounds like it may be a kernel issue?

For me, Skype randomly hangs on Darkside ROMs. It takes 4-5 force-stops to get one running properly.

tsuda said:
For me, Skype randomly hangs on Darkside ROMs. It takes 4-5 force-stops to get one running properly.
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I've noticed some issues with Skype too. That's why it made my list of most suspect apps. Many of my app launch hangs occurred while I had Skype open and running in the background. It eats up quite a lot of memory.
But so far while testing on the stock ROM, I haven't had any issues with Skype at all.

ive had the app hangs on all the ics roms i have tried ,darkside cache wipe and clearing launcher cache helps,but still there everyone once in awhile not with any specific app but with several.also when this happens i looke at the task manager and the ram is almost maxed out maybe ics is not handling the ram very well.just my observation.

Thanks for this thread, i wanted to comment in the Darkside Evo. v5 but i couldnt as i'm new.
I experienced the hang the last time when i tried to open the facebook chat, that was on version 5, i really liked v4 for all the features but there i got a lot of hangs several times a day doing random tasks, i had like 50 apps installed but i was removing them every time more and more.
Finally i decided to format both SD cards, internal and external and everything got better, but i have only had one hang in v5 several days ago, recently i've been messing with the phone trying several ROMS but now i'm back with v5 and im going to treat the phone like a b*tch to see if i can reproduce the hang with a clean clean installation, by the way im using the phoenix69 AOSP theme lockscreen, the aosp theme pack and some other stuff that is compatible...
I'll try to post if i get a new hang, i suspected of the powerful control widget, as the cause of the hang.
By the way, thanks for this extensive investigation Splaktar, i really wanted to be part of it.

Got another app hang.
I was configuring the phone after a clean installation, configuring options, putting some shortcuts, adding some widgets in Tw launcher, i installed apex and go launcher and used them a bit then returned to TW, i have the widgets: picture frame, accuweather, google search, power saving, and ICS clock, 3g watchdog small...
the case is i was messing around with some voice search on Dolphin Browser, when it happened, i minimezed the screen or don't remember exactly what happened but i wasn't able to open some apps, other do, but not all of them, which i found strange... system apps won't open, it really sucks this hang apps thing... i dont remember this happened on the darkside evo. 2 betas.
i can say that this happened in the exact moment i reached 65% battery.
Could it be something battery related? IDK.

Splaktar said:
I've noticed some issues with Skype too. That's why it made my list of most suspect apps. Many of my app launch hangs occurred while I had Skype open and running in the background. It eats up quite a lot of memory.
But so far while testing on the stock ROM, I haven't had any issues with Skype at all.
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Same here, no issue with Skype on stock ROMs.
But I got the same hanging issues on CM9 Alpha.

Updated 2nd post with results from testing last night and this morning.
Going to flash the stock ROM on a 2nd phone for further testing. Then go to a clean Darkside v5 ROM with no apps installed to see if I can reproduce.
So annoying that this issue doesn't leave any useful logcat information. There are 2 sets of logcats in the Darkside Evolution.3 thread that I haven't linked/posted here yet.

Doubt it helps but this just happened to me again on v5 but since I use Tasker and iseeyou and since they are ongoing tasks, I could actually open Tasker and iseeyou from the notification tray. Still had to reboot to use anything else, though.
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rdsugs mer.
Got another hang, this time opening the picture frame widget, the one that comes with the rom.
AT 64% OF MY BATTERY AGAIN.
Yesterday it was at 65%, it happened doing stuff in Dolphin browser which i uninstalled, then i restarted and continued using the phone until the battery drained, but no hang this time, i fully charged the battery, and got another hang at 64% exactly the moment i tried to open the picture frame widget.
This time i had 4 apps running in the background, google search, XDA devs pro, and i forgot the other two. I may be a noob or whatever, but my battery is my principal suspect or something power related, or the way how interacts power management and apps. i will try again.

I doubt its battery related as I just got my lockup while sitting at 100% on a charger.
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algorhythm said:
I doubt its battery related as I just got my lockup while sitting at 100% on a charger.
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Right, most/many of my app launch hangs have occurred while at 80-100% and connected to the charger.

Splaktar said:
Right, most/many of my app launch hangs have occurred while at 80-100% and connected to the charger.
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I can possibly agree with the battery level one but not the charger one. Seems independent of the status.
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I can possibly agree with the battery level one but not the charger one. Seems independent of the status.
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Not sure if you read that right. I wasn't trying to say that the charging status has anything to do with the app hangs.

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Not sure if you read that right. I wasn't trying to say that the charging status has anything to do with the app hangs.
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Never said you were, I was just saying for me it seems independent.
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Hi again.
As i read the last replies, i connected my charger at 71% of my battery, after restarting and this time i really tried to get the hang, and i got it again with the picture frame widget, after i tried to open it the freezing started.
Other apps that i opened while doing thisalways hitting the home button to try to have them in background)
gmail
task manager (killed some apps and ram before)
talk (chatted with the guru a little)
chrome beta (opening some of my computer's tabs)
dialer
playstore
youtube (watched some videos then returned home)
speedtest (did some tests and aborted)
Google reader
the gallery who caused the crash
twitter
calculator
messaging
power saving
Those were the last things i triied with the charger connected, i was at 71%
activated all that can be activated (3g, wifi, gps, autosync, even the flashlight, everything, then the battery dropped to 70% charging and finally got the freezing. I think i will return to stock... until the problem is fixed... i really love TDJ Rom, and i hope to be back soon. I will try Mr.x stock rooted slightly modified ROM and Try to reproduce the hang.
Thanks for this Thread again, this app hang is really bad i wonder what causes it.

Arturo777 said:
Hi again.
As i read the last replies, i connected my charger at 71% of my battery, after restarting and this time i really tried to get the hang, and i got it again with the picture frame widget, after i tried to open it the freezing started.
Other apps that i opened while doing thisalways hitting the home button to try to have them in background)
gmail
task manager (killed some apps and ram before)
talk (chatted with the guru a little)
chrome beta (opening some of my computer's tabs)
dialer
playstore
youtube (watched some videos then returned home)
speedtest (did some tests and aborted)
Google reader
the gallery who caused the crash
twitter
calculator
messaging
power saving
Those were the last things i triied with the charger connected, i was at 71%
activated all that can be activated (3g, wifi, gps, autosync, even the flashlight, everything, then the battery dropped to 70% charging and finally got the freezing. I think i will return to stock... until the problem is fixed... i really love TDJ Rom, and i hope to be back soon. I will try Mr.x stock rooted slightly modified ROM and Try to reproduce the hang.
Thanks for this Thread again, this app hang is really bad i wonder what causes it.
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This testing is being done with Mr. X's Stock Rooted ROM. It does not appear to have the app launch hang.
Your apps are quite different from mine and we both have the issue. Plus my own testing appears to have shown that apps are not causing this behavior. So I'm fairly sure that this is an issue with the Darkside ROM base. There were some posts that said CM9 has some app launch hangs as well so there might be parts that TDJ got from CM9 that are causing the app launch hangs.
I agree that the Darkside ROM is amazing. I really find it hard to live without the notification bar toggles and the notification bar slide for brightness. Plus the wallpapers and other customizations are awesome. But having to reboot once or twice a day at random (often inopportune) times can be quite annoying or worse.

[Q] ArtMod 5.2.1 bugs!

Hello, so i installed ArtMod 5.1 at first. Everything was allright. Some icons were old but that was okay. Then i updated to 5.2.1 and bugs came in.
1. In wifi settings i can't see active wifi connections. It shows me its connected. But i can't see those blue arcs.
2. Split screen with back button long press is messy. Its super hard to get it working. U have to let the back button go just the right millisecond. Othervise it will just flash up and disappear.
3. No battery power off animation or warning. When battery low the phone just goes black and thats it. It should give some warnings!!!
4. Ram usage. Im not sure if its a bug but i get only 700Mb free Ram. Something is eating it. With older version and other roms i got atleast 1Gb.
5. Battery drain. With no extra apps installed it takes battery like crazy max 1,5 h screen time wifi on, 3g off.
Everything else seems to work just fine. Ill keep this updated if i find out more.
Reason why im writing it here and not under the ArtMod topic is that nice XDA 10 posts thing.
Thanks, hoping for a reply soon.

6. The dual screen menu bar is offset. Or the button is just messed up. You have to. Press like 1,5 cm below the button for it to activate.

I have problem with Bluetooth.
When I press settings of some device in Bluetooth the application its force closed.

Art76er said:
I have problem with Bluetooth.
When I press settings of some device in Bluetooth the application its force closed.
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Jup i also have it.
7.

KevRum said:
4. Ram usage. Im not sure if its a bug but i get only 700Mb free Ram. Something is eating it. With older version and other roms i got atleast 1Gb.
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Is this actually a problem, on any ROM? I mean, does it cause any particular issues, rather than just seeing a number below 1GB? Two questions: 1) do you experience problems with your phone, and 2) is there an indication that they are caused by a low free RAM? My typical free RAM on VDT ROM is 700-800MB, give or take. My SGS5 (stock, but rooted and debloated) routinely goes below 600MB. Doesn't bother me, as everything still works perfectly fine. I don't run any memory cleaners, optimizers, etc., and rarely reboot my devices, unless I go into a flashing frenzy once in a while. Unless you know that this amount of free RAM is causing noticeable issues on your phone, why worry about it? Those 2GB of RAM are there to be used, so they are being used...

Update v5.2.2 almost problem is fixed :
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ARTMOD v 5.2.2 OTA
v5.2.2 Wifi settings resources update;
Added gestures double tap screen off on status bar and home screen (home screen double tap off working only on full version, not working update by OTA) ;
Added weather app;
More G3 apps added;
Resources updated
Full v 5.2.2 https://s.basketbuild.com/filedl/devs?dev=Artur0588&dl=Artur0588/ARTMOD v5.2.2_e975.zip
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Dual window stuff is still broken.

I have found some other bugs in 5.2.2 release
1. Volume buttons doesn`t work when movie is buffering (You can`t volume down or up while it`s buffering)
2. In wheather aplication "localization" doesn`t work when the GPS is off (Rom or KK bug?). In Jelly Bean wheather aplication could
find my localization when only the mobile data was on. Mayby i can`t find some option?
3. Bluetooth still crashes when I try to get to settings of some device
4. When I deleting pictures in galery, by moving finger up, aplication asks me if I realy want to delete the picture. This is annoying.
5. Can we chose another aplication for navigate in the car mode?
Mayby You can tell me if this bugs are also in stock KK rom for E975?

Annoying problem in A5 2017

Hi, I'm having an issue in my A5 2017, is not a big deal but it's starting to be really annoying.
I will explain it the best I can.
Whenever I tap on a writting box (don't know how it is said actually) in Facebook, WhatsApp, Firefox, etc., and start immediately to write something, it freezes like for 2-3 seconds. For example, open a WhatsApp conversation, tap the writing box, keyboard shows up, I write "hello, how are you?" and after that 2-3 seconds of lag, the sentence I wrote appears really fast. Also the letters of the keyboard won't pop up as you write the sentence, they will pop up all of them together really fast after it "defreezes". It happens every time I send something. If I wrote that and send it, in the next sentence will happen again. The same happens when I tap the "back button" to close keyboard and again to go back to WhatsApp chats, it lasts 2-3 seconds.
Don't know why it's happening, I haven't changed anything in keyboard settings since I bought it. The phone is working perfect, fast, everything ok except that thing.
Thanks!

brutzza said:
Hi, I'm having an issue in my A5 2017, is not a big deal but it's starting to be really annoying.
I will explain it the best I can.
Whenever I tap on a writting box (don't know how it is said actually) in Facebook, WhatsApp, Firefox, etc., and start immediately to write something, it freezes like for 2-3 seconds. For example, open a WhatsApp conversation, tap the writing box, keyboard shows up, I write "hello, how are you?" and after that 2-3 seconds of lag, the sentence I wrote appears really fast. Also the letters of the keyboard won't pop up as you write the sentence, they will pop up all of them together really fast after it "defreezes". It happens every time I send something. If I wrote that and send it, in the next sentence will happen again. The same happens when I tap the "back button" to close keyboard and again to go back to WhatsApp chats, it lasts 2-3 seconds.
Don't know why it's happening, I haven't changed anything in keyboard settings since I bought it. The phone is working perfect, fast, everything ok except that thing.
Thanks!
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You have too many apps running in the background / installed.
Try to reflash stock rom, and disable some apps that you don.t use, because RAM is limited !

MaDaLiNoSt said:
You have too many apps running in the background / installed.
Try to reflash stock rom, and disable some apps that you don.t use, because RAM is limited !
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Mmm, I have the same amount of apps I had in my S4 and never did that.

MaDaLiNoSt said:
You have too many apps running in the background / installed.
Try to reflash stock rom, and disable some apps that you don.t use, because RAM is limited !
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How do I shut them down from the background? What does that mean?

No issues with mine
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amlbuton said:
No issues with mine
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I don't know what to do, I've restarted it.
I'll try reinstalling whatsapp, but I don't think it will fix it because it happens in every app I have to write something.

Try another keyboard, try google keyboard or download default one and say if problem is gone.
If not, factorry reset your device.

Well, just in case if you want to check if it is an performance problem, i would suggest you install an CPU Meter (like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.als.usagetimelines) and ram meter, so you can see the usage in the statusbar. If the freezes are happening at high usage / usage spikes it could be a performance / ram problem.

several issues, don't get rid of it, it's 2 weeks out of the box
Hello i'm having several issues with my 2 weeks new A5 SM-520F bought in germany, i don't get rid of it, seems be a defect or samsung brought finaly the crapiest FW at all, i dont want to flash and solve problem on my own, and void the garanty.
here we go issue 1:
Out of the box after first charging to 100% (phone off), turned on, did all the updates, put my sd card, all my stuff is on the card, then i recovered there is 20GB of internal storage occupied...serious? normal? seems gigantic for android, on my old experia with last update to 7 it has something about 6 to 7 Gig.
Issue 2:
My Battery is down after a day with no usage, only dispaly always on feature to inform about messages, there is no more LED...
I deactivated it to test it out, it is better, but when i turns display on, today i was browsing some while waiting, 5 to 8 % went away in minutes, this can not be?!Normal? Bad Batery?
Issue 3:
Like other ppl mostly all my vidz are mp4, but my rediculously NEW A5 of year 2017 (sounds fashy huh) seem not be able to play them, it always want convert them to wmv no one using or want using anymore...
Is that just a save up money on license for the codecs? In my opnion... horrible, to bring such fashy sonorous smarthone of 2017 new generation...without mp4 support oO
Would MX with custom codec do it ?
Ty very much Guys!

Did you try Factory Reset?

Trying now, it seems the whole system tree is broken partition E:/ misc not find, and multiple errors.. trying mounting something and not get rw- root permission and error, i get in recovery for reset and swaps through the last recovery log...mysterious
When issues will remain i will manual download the official FW and throw it through sideload, when nothing help i'll give it back...
Sad that a new device not a cheap one and so many probs....
I've red about multiple problems nearly the same as me, they've all mentioned the ultra fast battery drain, it seems that nougat is kinda broken with all its fabulousness and will be patched...soon...somehow...maybe?

D3ZZ said:
Hello i'm having several issues with my 2 weeks new A5 SM-520F bought in germany, i don't get rid of it, seems be a defect or samsung brought finaly the crapiest FW at all, i dont want to flash and solve problem on my own, and void the garanty.
here we go issue 1:
Out of the box after first charging to 100% (phone off), turned on, did all the updates, put my sd card, all my stuff is on the card, then i recovered there is 20GB of internal storage occupied...serious? normal? seems gigantic for android, on my old experia with last update to 7 it has something about 6 to 7 Gig.
Issue 2:
My Battery is down after a day with no usage, only dispaly always on feature to inform about messages, there is no more LED...
I deactivated it to test it out, it is better, but when i turns display on, today i was browsing some while waiting, 5 to 8 % went away in minutes, this can not be?!Normal? Bad Batery?
Issue 3:
Like other ppl mostly all my vidz are mp4, but my rediculously NEW A5 of year 2017 (sounds fashy huh) seem not be able to play them, it always want convert them to wmv no one using or want using anymore...
Is that just a save up money on license for the codecs? In my opnion... horrible, to bring such fashy sonorous smarthone of 2017 new generation...without mp4 support oO
Would MX with custom codec do it ?
Ty very much Guys!
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For video, mine doesn't have any issues with other format besides mp4, mkv played using mx player or default video player all goes smoothly
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Incredible laziness after updating 43_180523

Hi all, after the latest update my OP5T 8/128 turned into the worst Huawei on the planet. It started to be sluggish, lagging and frustrating, chance clearing didn't help
1- When a notification appears and I click nothing happens. This is the most odious feature update brang in, especially when it relates to maps using for public transport (do you know), but also for downloading files (I click and the app doesn't starts). Moreover if I start manually it isn't updated, and restarts after a few moments;
2- The caller is sleeping, I click on a contact and I have to wait times until the call starts! It's similar to the fact I wrote on previously, like if the phone doesn't receive clicks.
3 - when I click recent apps (and there are apps, I never close them) nothing appears. If I repeat the process casually then they come back.
4- the switcher changes modality after minutes I swinged it to... You can imagine what it caused at a working meeting...
How can I solve these issues? I don't want to root this phone, but I want to back to his Armageddon times! Please help me!

Factory reset? Do u have massive CPU consuming apps installed.