my atrix is running 1.5.7 update and is rooted...
phone starts at around 90-100%
when i dock the phone the car app starts no problem, battery shows as charging also...
i click on default location button, and it brings my google maps and then asks for destination, i select one from my stared places and click on directions... it brings up the time/distance, and turn by turn text directions... (still shows as charging)
i then click on the navigation button and it opens up google navigator and gives driections (still shows as charging)
after lets say a 1-2 hrs trip, i exit out of the programs using the back button all the way to the default dock screen, then undock the phone, all the time the charging indicator is showing on the phone... when undocked the phone temp reads around 115-120F... the outside temp was around 70ish, and i still had the AC running in the car (i like it cold), and the battery % shows around 40-50%???
i have never had a car dock not actually charge the phone while plugged in... are all the clicks actually opening multiple programs and the processor drawing that much power that the charger just cant handle it? and why oh why is it getting that hot?
not the whole phone, or even the battery, just the bottom portion of the phones where the sim and sd card would go....
to test this theory on other trips, when the car app opens i close it (while docked) and browse directly to the navigation app, open it and set starting and ending points and drive... same length of trips, same weather and temp conditions, the battery charging indicator still shws as charging...
when i exit and undock, the temp is still getting up to the 120F mark, but it is actaully fully charged when i reach my destination...
i can be the only one, can i?
*note i have the dock and charger bought directly in the motorola packaging with the usb power adapter included, not the one in the ATT box w/o usb power adapter
should that tell me something? did att know the motorola adapter couldnt handle it, so it didnt include it, thus giving them an out when complaints started bout losing power? we must be using a bad usb adapter?
maybe its something to do with the special usb/audio cord? i know when i plug the special cord into the usb power connector directly intothe phone, the phone doesnt register it... maybe i should try a reg usb cord to the dock? i dont have an aux port so i would never use the audio cord, at least not in my car...
Hi,
I've got the car dock as well, and use the included usb/audio cable to charge.
I have not noticed the battery drain you speak of. And i'm running navigation + power amp on my trips.
The battery charges, but slowly (500mA on the usb). I have not lost charge nor has my phone gone over 120F/48C.
Do you have some other cpu intensive program running in the background? You can check the battery status to see whats been using the battery the most.
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I used to have the same situation with my milestone, if I used gps and had the car charger it would slowly drain. I just chalked it up to the fact that the gps, screen and processing power required equaled more then what the charger was giving.
I have not noticed the drain as bad with the atrix but my new work truck also has an usb port that outputs up to 2.1 amps.
I have experienced exactly what you are talking about. I do a lot of long drives, and have had the phone on the verge of death by the time I reached my destination.
My solution: I used to have the dock attached to my windshield on the left side of my car; I now have the dock attached to the drivers side window, right in front of my a/c vent. The phone never reaches 80° now, and actually completely charges my phone.
The drawback: I can't roll down my window at the spur of the moment.
Here is a screenshot I took while driving of the overheat.
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I believe that there is an issue with charging performance in the Atrix car dock. I'm using the OEM Motorola ECOMOTO Rapid Rate vehicle power adapter (850 mAH) with dual USB ports. You can tell this USB charger is a good product just by the weight of the thing! A test charge in the Atrix car dock began at 7:45 AM and the phone's charge was 20%. At 9 AM 30% and 10:30 AM 40%. This is obviously nothing like the wall charger so it made me believe that the phone was powered by the charger while docked but only receiving a trickle charge. Connecting the phone directly to the USB car charger (without the car dock) using a stock USB to micro USB charging cable, at 8:00 AM the phone was at 20%, 8:20 AM 40%, 9:00 AM 70% and 10:00 AM 100%. What a contrast!! So it appears that there is an issue with charging performance while in the car dock. I've reported this to Motorola and hope that they can reproduce and address.
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i have 3 usb car chargers and they all have different charge rates on my atrix. two of them would slowly drain with gps and maps on, the other ones charges the phone well even in use. i think that one is rated for around 700mah output. sounds like teh car dock is only putting out 500mah or less. thats kinda lame for an official motorola product that cost $60.
Knowing about the trickle charge bug while docked, I sat in my car today and browsed the web. When I was done the Atrix was at 30%. So the phone wasn't even being powered, let alone charged while being docked. I will continue to call Motorola to report this issue until I get a tech who is able to provide some two way communication in the issue. I digest everyone else do the same please.
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Mine works fine - I am using the Moto branded dock and bundled charger (not AT&T).
Keep in mind it is easily possible to discharge faster then charge - this is true of ALL smart phones. If you are using Data, GPS, screen, and a bunch of apps, you can use more power then the charger supplies.
This is NOT a bad thing. The phone has circuitry that limits charging rate to make sure the battery is not damaged. You can't always charge faster then discharge, and if the phone gets very hot (sitting in the sun) then the charging rate may be throttled back.
If my phone is in the dock, doing NAV with push email in the back, it charges faster then it discharges.
Not sure if you read my notes on test charge cycles. The car dock is an issue.
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I spoke with Motorola Support today regarding the care dock charging issue and there response was "we have escalated to the engineering department but do not have any feedback at this time."
I purchased the car charger from Verizon.. It also has an additional usb plugin slot on top of the charger so 2 things can charge at the same time..
It works great and I don't see the discharge issue.. The phone is warm when I take if off but not bad even after 2hr ride..
my experience as well.
I have run into it as well, but I admit that I run with trapster, 3 email accounts and slacker running most of the time. But this isn't the first device I have done this with. And I have had similar problems with them. I am just disappointed that Moto designed such a set up, and did not anticipate this kind of use and given us enough amps!
I wonder about maybe plugging it into one of those 1.2A usb iphone chargers.....
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I have run into it as well, but I admit that I run with trapster, 3 email accounts and slacker running most of the time. But this isn't the first device I have done this with. And I have had similar problems with them. I am just disappointed that Moto designed such a set up, and did not anticipate this kind of use and given us enough amps!
I wonder about maybe plugging it into one of those 1.2A usb iphone chargers.....
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If you charge in yiur car with a stock usb to micro usb cable without the dock, the charge speed is like the wall charger. There is a problem. I've measured this and reported to Motorola.
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This kind of happens with my multimedia dock - When using it in webtop mode, it will charge for about 10 or so percent, then it starts to drain, even though everything shows that it is still charging. Im using the power adapter that came with the dock and its plugged into the wall.
I see this from time to time as well, but not always. I am using a 1000ma charger in my car, and sometimes I find the battery drained at the end of a drive. My program use is almost always the same (google maps, trapster, music player)
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I have experienced exactly what you are talking about. I do a lot of long drives, and have had the phone on the verge of death by the time I reached my destination.
My solution: I used to have the dock attached to my windshield on the left side of my car; I now have the dock attached to the drivers side window, right in front of my a/c vent. The phone never reaches 80° now, and actually completely charges my phone.
The drawback: I can't roll down my window at the spur of the moment.
Here is a screenshot I took while driving of the overheat.
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This is, from my experience, absolutely the correct answer. When your battery temp gets too high, it will stop charging as a safety precaution. Once it stops, it doesn't seem to start back up until the temp goes back down. But if you are running navi/trapster/email/etc., it's not going to cool down on its own. Putting in front of an AC vent is the best solution. I like Gator's creative approach of using his side window. I still keep my dock mounted to the windshield, but what I do is run my AC through my defroster setting, so the cool air is coming out onto the windshield and on my feet. For a long drive it still keeps the ambiant temp comfortable, and provides a flow of cool air to the back side of the phone and dock.
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This is, from my experience, absolutely the correct answer. When your battery temp gets too high, it will stop charging as a safety precaution. Once it stops, it doesn't seem to start back up until the temp goes back down. But if you are running navi/trapster/email/etc., it's not going to cool down on its own. Putting in front of an AC vent is the best solution. I like Gator's creative approach of using his side window. I still keep my dock mounted to the windshield, but what I do is run my AC through my defroster setting, so the cool air is coming out onto the windshield and on my feet. For a long drive it still keeps the ambiant temp comfortable, and provides a flow of cool air to the back side of the phone and dock.
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I'm buying the explanation.... I really am.
(pause for effect) ... but I tested with everything disabled... gps BT data sync,etc. It would not charge more than 10% per hour in the car dock. The exact same test 24s later connected with a stock USB to micro USB cable in th car and the result was astounding. 40% per hour from what I remember. (Test results posted earlier in this thread)
So why is it getting so hot in the dock with nothing running? Mine is in the top corner of the windshield.
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Btw the explanation on heat is probably hitting the nail right on the head.
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jjwatmyself said:
I'm buying the explanation.... I really am.
(pause for effect) ... but I tested with everything disabled... gps BT data sync,etc. It would not charge more than 10% per hour in the car dock. The exact same test 24s later connected with a stock USB to micro USB cable in th car and the result was astounding. 40% per hour from what I remember. (Test results posted earlier in this thread)
So why is it getting so hot in the dock with nothing running? Mine is in the top corner of the windshield.
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I do agree that it seems to charge VERY SLOWLY when docked. I was only commenting on the question about it stopping it's charge, and my thoughts about temp being the culprit. I'm wondering if the docking programs are chewing up RAM or something, causing it to charge very slowly??? Something about the doc is causing a slow charge.
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I bought this kit from e-bay and just got it in today, so have been trying it out on my drive from home <-> work.
The problem is, the car charger they supplied doesn't seem to be sufficient to charge the phone or at least keep its battery at a constant state when I'm using it as a GPS + Streaming music. On my drive home, I started at about 50% battery life. An hour or so later, I was down to about 35ish with it plugged in nearly the entire time. So clearly it's not pumping enough juice to the device
I was thinking of buying one of these from monoprice but I wanted to make sure it really would give me enough power. Obviously the power isn't that big of an issue, but I don't want to wait for it to ship only to find out that it doesn't help anyways.
Anyone tried the monoprice one I linked to, or one of the other ones from there? Or can suggest one to buy from elsewhere? Would greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I should mention, I have a car charger uhh splitter thing...to split the one socket into two (one for an FM transmitter, and one for the phone). Could this be a limiting factor in how much power I'm getting to the phone as well? Or should the single socket have enough power for both devices?
I got a Kensington PowerBolt from Future Shop which claims to be 2.1 amps and I still drained the battery a bit when testing the nav. Possibly not as much as you but there is still a net loss. If the charger is accurate in its power then I presume my car isn't delivering enough power.
Any car charger that supports the ipad should be well above 1.0a. Whether it delivers that is a question I cannot answer.
Im going to test direct power charging while having the nav on to see if this thing can ever charge positive while in nav mode. I wonder if that has ever been done.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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They are a little more prevalent thanks to the ipads higher power requirements for charging.
Future Shop has a few of them available now if you want. A little expensive though at $30+. I don't see the PowerBolt anymore which is too bad since that was a slim model that barely poked out of the socket.
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fatttire said:
I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Excellent. I am going to give that a try. I have one of those flat retractable cables so its going to be a pain in the ass to do but its worth it.
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Do you mean this? Isn't 2 amps too much though?
Didn't make it up - just havent looked in the last 6 months. Ur right they are pretty common now.
Might invest in one
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin. You want to short pins 2 and 3 together which are Data- and Data+. Normally that is WHITE and GREEN
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Once you do that, you'll have a charge only cable.
Here's the detailed directions:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46449
I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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Are you saying that the phone will only draw a max of 750mAmps and so anything greater wont provide utility?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin........
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Awesome! I'll try this out and see if it works, thank you
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I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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I thought there might be a limit on how much current you can provide at any one time.
On the original subject: I've started using a different car charger, and now have it plugged directly into the socket in my car. This results in it showing up as being charged by AC power in the settings -> phone status. However, it still loses power over time instead of keeping at the same charge or (ideally) charging the phone slowly.
I'm going to see if I can get my hands on that 2A charger and modify a cable, and see what happens then.
If anyone would like to see if the same thing happens to them, the main applications I have running are:
Google Navigation
TuneIn Radio (streaming from one of the DI.FM stations, and outputting audio to the headphone jack to my car)
I have 3g and GPS on, wifi off, brightness set to auto (have also tried with it set to the lowest it goes and the highest it goes, doesn't seem to make a substantial difference. Or even if it does, there is still a net loss in battery charge.)
It's on stock rogers rom, rooted, with no lag fix. And uhhh, that's all I can think of that would be relevant.
I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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You should still get the same number of "phone charges" out from the pack...they'll just be quicker charges afaik. i.e. if the pack took 4 hours to do a full phone charge before, it may only take 2 hours now. The same amount of power is used up each time though.
any progress?
There are a million threads out there about car chargers for the Atrix, but none of them concretely provide a solution because the threads are either hijacked for some stupid rant or people just post guesses and/or opinions, never facts. For this thread, if you can't provide facts, please don't post, keep it open to those with real knowledge to share.
Background:
I've tested two car chargers to get the Atrix to POSITIVELY CHARGE while using Google Navigation and so far I've failed. In all cases, both by itself and on the official car cradle, I started at 100%, the battery slowly holds its charge for the first 20 or so mins, and then it just takes a nose dive. The longest trip I've been on is 5 hrs, where on the last 30 mins, the phone just shut off, battery at 0% and unable to run Google Nav or itself.
Are there any car chargers out there capable of charging the Atrix while in use by Google Nav/Pandora/Something Resource Hungry?
Is it a FACT that once the battery reaches a certain temp, it will stop charging no matter what, no matter what the power input is (500-1000mA)?
Can the official car dock (Moto or AT&T branded) support more than 500mA since it's treated as a USB connection?
The car chargers I've tested are the Moto SPN5400 and Belkin F8Z445ttP. I've read the Belkin, while rated at 1000mA, only comes through with 500mA because the Atrix treats it as a USB connection.
fact: I run google navigation on the car charger and it either slowly charges or seems to stay at the battery percentage. I also have the 1% mod so I can see the subtle charging
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fact: I run google navigation on the car charger and it either slowly charges or seems to stay at the battery percentage. I also have the 1% mod so I can see the subtle charging
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What car charger are you using and its rated power output?
I use a SYBA SY-IPO20010 USB Car Charger its rated power output 600-700mA and the atrix sees it as a wall charger (i know this because i can boot into tanfar's cwm using it). it charges my phone slightly slower than the wall charger when used without the cardock. However when used with the cardock charging times are alot slower.
spielnicht said:
There are a million threads out there about car chargers for the Atrix, but none of them concretely provide a solution because the threads are either hijacked for some stupid rant or people just post guesses and/or opinions, never facts. For this thread, if you can't provide facts, please don't post, keep it open to those with real knowledge to share.
Background:
I've tested two car chargers to get the Atrix to POSITIVELY CHARGE while using Google Navigation and so far I've failed. In all cases, both by itself and on the official car cradle, I started at 100%, the battery slowly holds its charge for the first 20 or so mins, and then it just takes a nose dive. The longest trip I've been on is 5 hrs, where on the last 30 mins, the phone just shut off, battery at 0% and unable to run Google Nav or itself.
Are there any car chargers out there capable of charging the Atrix while in use by Google Nav/Pandora/Something Resource Hungry?
Is it a FACT that once the battery reaches a certain temp, it will stop charging no matter what, no matter what the power input is (500-1000mA)?
Can the official car dock (Moto or AT&T branded) support more than 500mA since it's treated as a USB connection?
The car chargers I've tested are the Moto SPN5400 and Belkin F8Z445ttP. I've read the Belkin, while rated at 1000mA, only comes through with 500mA because the Atrix treats it as a USB connection.
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Charging in Moto car dock with Moto dual port usb rapid charger. Google Nav and Pandora running. Test one shows in increase in charge of 20% charge per hour. I plan to test for a longer duration to get a mire accurate reading.
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Charging in Moto car dock with Moto dual port usb rapid charger. Google Nav and Pandora running. Test one shows in increase in charge of 20% charge per hour. I plan to test for a longer duration to get a mire accurate reading.
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I'm going to assume you mean model SJ1444A. How long is the included cable? I would hopefully assume it is longer than the USB cable that comes with the Atrix itself, but I wanted to make sure. I could not find this information on any product Web sites.
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What car charger are you using and its rated power output?
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the official atrix car dock
I use an energizer charger, that comes with interchangeable ends and have never seen the charge be lower than when i started. That's with pandora, nav, etc.
forget exactly which one, but i bought it when i had my aria, and it was listed for HTC devices.
I used the Moto SPN5400 ($4 on amazon prime) and mine definitely charges still while using navi, albeit slower of course.
I use this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Atrix-...317163?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item33683f64eb) with the car dock and stock car dock cable. I've had navigation and poweramp running and it will never go down in percent. Only up.
Even the crappiest of car chargers will charge, but when using a resource hungry app like you mentioned your mileage may vary (pun intended?).
I've found heat to play a big factor too. I learned this the hard way when my Atrix was scorching and I was in the US ripping home to make a deadline. GPS and Google Nav killed the battery to the point where it kept restarting. So I let it charge while turned off for a while and had enough juice to make it home and use GPS navigation. Whew! So scary because I didn't know where the hell I was and would have been screwed if I didn't get home on time.
I always try staying charged ahead of time or make sure there's a good buffer. Hopefully someone can share which charger is a better one out there. The one I use is for use with an iPhone and is just a cheap USB charger.
Im using a Nokia car charger with a mini-usb adapter (which while charging gets kinda hot by the way) and also use Aura GPS with my Atrix.
The most I've used the GPS it is for about 2.5 hours without noticing any problem whatsoever. In fact, once I unplug the Atrix, it shows 100% charge.
However here's what I think it's happening to some: If your Atrix is mounted on the screen, the Atrix will receive a huge amount of UV light (heat) even on cloudy days, maybe overheating the battery, thus preventing it to get a charge? Could that be possible?
Rayan said:
Im using a Nokia car charger with a mini-usb adapter (which while charging gets kinda hot by the way) and also use Aura GPS with my Atrix.
The most I've used the GPS it is for about 2.5 hours without noticing any problem whatsoever. In fact, once I unplug the Atrix, it shows 100% charge.
However here's what I think it's happening to some: If your Atrix is mounted on the screen, the Atrix will receive a huge amount of UV light (heat) even on cloudy days, maybe overheating the battery, thus preventing it to get a charge? Could that be possible?
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Yes. Excess heat prevents charging. I have posted screenshots on one of the other threads showing this.
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I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?
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I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?
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I've come to the same conclusion as well. The excessive heat really does prevent it from charging. I went on the same road trip to the US as before and even driving in the early morning or late night when it was relatively chilly, the phone still got too hot to charge.
I went down to about 60% charge from 100% charge using just an offline GPS navigation program. Using Google Nav drains it a little more because of the data usage. Kind of a bummer. I always make sure to go on a full charge because having no GPS in a foreign place is a bit freaky.
ka3yan said:
I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?
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Here's something I've done to help the heat. If you have the dock mounted on your windshield, set your vents to come out through the defrost. This will blow cold A/C onto the windshield and dock and helps the phone remain reasonably cool.
drumercalzone09 said:
Here's something I've done to help the heat. If you have the dock mounted on your windshield, set your vents to come out through the defrost. This will blow cold A/C onto the windshield and dock and helps the phone remain reasonably cool.
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Good tip!
I had mine mounted on the dash but moved it to the windshield as well. I normally have the windshield vent on blowing cool air anyway and I'm sure it helped.
During my previous trip I was down to around 40% at times (from a full charge). Using the offline GPS nav helped too. Some programs even allow you to change the GPS intervals but it's something I wouldn't toy with. I'd rather have accurate GPS and sacrifice battery life.
Still a bit of a bummer. Wish there were more ways to curb the excessive heat.
I wonder if it would make a difference if I took the back of the phone off when it was in the dock. I already have to take it out of the case to put it in the dock, it wouldn't be any problem to take the back off at the same time. It might help air move across the battery better....one less thing holding heat in.
ka3yan said:
I wonder if it would make a difference if I took the back of the phone off when it was in the dock. I already have to take it out of the case to put it in the dock, it wouldn't be any problem to take the back off at the same time. It might help air move across the battery better....one less thing holding heat in.
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I don't think it'd make an appreciable difference.
Maybe if you have a cooler in the vehicle when you're on a long trip you can lay it on that for a bit. But then you'd need to worry about water damage and condensation... bleh...
UV light wouldn't really be the cause of excess heat, IR light would be more the culprit... which is present in sunlight also.
New to the Nexus, recently purchased from the Play store. On my commute I generally am running Waze (or google navigation) and Audible with screen on auto brightness. With these running I get a slow drain. With these running on my old iPhone 4s, I would get a slow charge (unless it got hot, then it drained). I am using the same charger (capable of enough power to charge a iPad) I guess I am worried about long trips, don't want to show up with an almost dead phone...
I did flash jelly bean last night, still a slow drain this morning on the way in.
Is this just the nature of the phone?
EDIT; disregard, found a prior thread...delete function does not seem to work??
$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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this
the reason your nexus is still draining with your car charger is that it's only recognized as a 500mah usb, look at charging state in the settings and it will say USB. you can either mod a micro usb wire or the car charger buy connecting the two middle D pins. with this mod your nexus will recognize as AC charger that you can see in the settings.
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i have the 5 dollar moto charger and it does really charge at 700mah, enough to charge while using maps, but the blue led is super bright and covers the entire circle. its very annoying at least for me to have a light that bright at night.
im using this one now, its an official motorola rapid charger that came with my Atrix's car mount. it charges at the same rate with 2 usb slots. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapi...42088485&sr=1-4&keywords=motorola+car+charger
Another +1 for Motorola charger, only charger I have found that keeps charging my nexus while using navigation
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I also use the Motorola charger, works great.
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
ktownhero said:
$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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high recommend especially for the price. i almost always use the GPS while driving and this thing will charge it most defiantly while in use.
neotekz said:
the reason your nexus is still draining with your car charger is that it's only recognized as a 500mah usb, look at charging state in the settings and it will say USB. you can either mod a micro usb wire or the car charger buy connecting the two middle D pins. with this mod your nexus will recognize as AC charger that you can see in the settings.
i have the 5 dollar moto charger and it does really charge at 700mah, enough to charge while using maps, but the blue led is super bright and covers the entire circle. its very annoying at least for me to have a light that bright at night.
im using this one now, its an official motorola rapid charger that came with my Atrix's car mount. it charges at the same rate with 2 usb slots. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapi...42088485&sr=1-4&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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You saying just short the two middle pins together?
Edit; or better yet, is there a standard color code to the wiring? Will open the cable and tie them together in the middle... guess I could ohm them out as well
alias3800 said:
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
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USB 2.0 ports are only designed to output 500mA. If you value your ports I wouldn't.
It is alway important to notice that, no charger will be able to keep the battery level or at least charge it a little bit if temperature is high and phone is hot... This is just the way Li Ion batteries are, their efficiency decreases exponentially when temperature is higher... So, sometimes charger is not the one to blame, but, the climate/sun shinning over the phone + screen on + 3G/4G + GPS = a phone that is smoking hot and a battery working in adverse conditions...
They're work ports so I wouldn't mind too much.
The truth is I don't really mind, because it does charge the phone, regardless of what I do. However, it does so slowly, and I was used to the fast charging of the iPhone. However, I've also +1 the Motorola charger in the car, it's a lifesaver. My battery never dies down in the car.
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videian said:
You saying just short the two middle pins together?
Edit; or better yet, is there a standard color code to the wiring? Will open the cable and tie them together in the middle... guess I could ohm them out as well
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i've never modded my wires so im not sure if they are color coded. for the chargers though i didnt even use any solder just open up the casing and i just bent the two D pins on the usb adapter that were soldered to the board so that they touch. but yah thats the basic idea just connect those two lines somehow and your phone will recognize the charger as AC.
I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
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I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
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Working just fine for me, but it is a little bit cold in Brazil (about 58F, the higher the temperature, higher the battery temperature and higher the chances that battery efficiency is down the drain and/or phone just stop charging battery to avoid battery hitting dangerous temperature thresholds where it starts to degrade permanently and if temperature keep increasing, it might even explode).
alias3800 said:
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
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I did a Palm Pre wireless charging mod on my nexus and HAVE to use a kernel with fast charge settings to get AC. Regardless of cables/chargers/whatever. Most kernels support it, and most popular kernels are running good on JB. My flavor is Trinity
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I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
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After reviewing the pictures on amazon uploaded by users, I've found I have the fake version. Blah
Interesting thanks for all the info about USB charging. Does the pogo car dock charge as AC or USB? My real question is will I experience battery drain in regular conditions (the phone isn't on fire so the battery is still relatively efficient) running nav + music + random?
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After reviewing the pictures on amazon uploaded by users, I've found I have the fake version. Blah
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Fake version???
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Fake version???
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Read the reviews and look at the pictures at amazon.
Using the official SGS3 Samsung charger & micro usb cable that came with my SGS3, I plugged a male to female USB cable that I had spliced so I could check current, voltage, etc of various usb devices. Anyway, I put my ammeter in series with the + power (red) line and I'm only seeing around 200-250ma on my meter! What is going on here? I've tried this with another meter (with the same result) so it doesn't seem to be anything wrong with my ammeters. Also, my phone was at 37% battery last time I tried this.
Here's a picture of how I have it setup...charger on the left, usb cable going to phone on right, ammeter is attached to the alligator clips.
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I had same problem and it was just the longer USB cable I used that couldn't handle the full 1A current, so just try another.
your setup is wrong.
you are seeing what the charger is supplying, MINUS what the phone is taking.
scarrmrcc said:
your setup is wrong.
you are seeing what the charger is supplying, MINUS what the phone is taking.
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Huh? How so? My ammeter is in series between the charger and the phone. Any current drawn from the charger would pass through the ammeter, no? The phone is drawing the current from the charger, if the phone isn't "taking" all the current, then what could possibly be drawing this additional current you speak of, from the charger?
Geordie Lad said:
I had same problem and it was just the longer USB cable I used that couldn't handle the full 1A current, so just try another.
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I'm using a pretty short cable already, but I've also tried it with another set of plugs with no change in result.
scarrmrcc said:
your setup is wrong.
you are seeing what the charger is supplying, MINUS what the phone is taking.
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umm.. please pardon my outrage, but did you spend the few milliseconds required to read his post before replying?
If he's running his meter inline on the USB +5v wire, it's only measuring the current flowing across that wire - regardless of what that current is being used for.
On the other hand, I do think there's a typo in his message: probably should be 200-250mA - not maH... maH would be a capacity, not a current.
To the OP:
You should be seeing around 900-950mA in the case of the stock wall charger. Can you try the same test using a standard computer USB port? Does your kernel support showing charging current either in kmsg or via a sysfs interface? If so, it'd be interesting to see that. I have seen cases where the kernel THINKS it's charging at one rate, but it's actually pulling quite a bit less current from the wire (on other devices.)
It's possible that the USB cable your using is flawed. I realize that your post claims to be using the stock USB cable, but your photo is showing a white USB plug when the stock cable is black.
If the kernel can show charging current, it'd be useful to log that, and then try a different USB cable and see if the kernel see's a different current then. If so, it'd point to a USB cable flaw.
Another thought: When your charging, go into settings->battery. It should show that it's charging... does it dispaly charging via (USB) or (AC)?
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Using the official SGS3 Samsung charger & micro usb cable that came with my SGS3, I plugged a male to female USB cable that I had spliced so I could check current, voltage, etc of various usb devices. Anyway, I put my ammeter in series with the + power (red) line and I'm only seeing around 200-250maH on my meter! What is going on here? I've tried this with another meter (with the same result) so it doesn't seem to be anything wrong with my ammeters. Also, my phone was at 37% battery last time I tried this.
Here's a picture of how I have it setup...charger on the left, usb cable going to phone on right, ammeter is attached to the alligator clips.
Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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You may need to short the white and green data wires together which should tell the S3 to charge at FAST rate. I am guessing the S3 thinks it is seeing a PC USB rate. I know this for a fact with my HD2 but probably our S3's are the same. Good you mentioned 37% because we also know that the charge rate will slow down the closer the battery gets to full charge...which means we cannot do these tests once battery is over 80% or so.
I can confirm the need to short white & green.
Disclaimer: That's is just what I knew about my old Captivate. Shorting those two wires on that setup could blow up your phone, so make sure you setup a video camera to catch the the explosion if you try this.
try using your original cable, different cable do get different results.
garyd9 said:
umm.. please pardon my outrage, but did you spend the few milliseconds required to read his post before replying?
If he's running his meter inline on the USB +5v wire, it's only measuring the current flowing across that wire - regardless of what that current is being used for.
On the other hand, I do think there's a typo in his message: probably should be 200-250mA - not maH... maH would be a capacity, not a current.
To the OP:
You should be seeing around 900-950mA in the case of the stock wall charger. Can you try the same test using a standard computer USB port? Does your kernel support showing charging current either in kmsg or via a sysfs interface? If so, it'd be interesting to see that. I have seen cases where the kernel THINKS it's charging at one rate, but it's actually pulling quite a bit less current from the wire (on other devices.)
It's possible that the USB cable your using is flawed. I realize that your post claims to be using the stock USB cable, but your photo is showing a white USB plug when the stock cable is black.
If the kernel can show charging current, it'd be useful to log that, and then try a different USB cable and see if the kernel see's a different current then. If so, it'd point to a USB cable flaw.
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I doubt my kernal supports that...just running stock except I rooted it. Do you know if the stock rom supports this? Haven't had time to look into all the stuff needed custom roms, tweaks, etc. Another reason to start researching that stuff...arg
The reason for the white usb cable: I didn't want to splice up the stock cable...My setup is Stock Charger>Male USB plug>Female USB plug>Stock SGS3 Micro USB cable---Essentially a very short M-F usb A extension that I use for testing purposes. I also tried some different physical plugs with the same result. Also tried at different battery % levels with the same result. No problems as far as charging times are concerned using the stock charger/cable. Not sure I'm ready to rip open the charger and stock cable and show it to one of my EE friends, because I might be selling off this phone not too far into the future if the new Nexus is good enough for me...
Another thought: When your charging, go into settings->battery. It should show that it's charging... does it dispaly charging via (USB) or (AC)?
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Yes, I checked this, it says AC...strangely, it also says AC when I plug into an Apple charger, which as you might know carries specific voltages on the data lines as opposed to having the data lines shorted. Just to check that it wasn't detecting everything as an AC source, I plugged my my SGS3 into my Macbook Pro and it did recognize it as USB source, not AC.
Thanks, for the heads up on the typo.
FYI: My phone seems to be charging reasonably fast in practice - about 3 hours for around a full charge (haven't been able to do this perfect 0-100% because I use my phone so much so 3 hrs is a bit of an estimate) using stock charger/cable/battery (2,100mAh). I haven't really tested it much on other chargers but I recall it being very slow when I used a USB extension cable once (everything else stock). Also, last night I was using my SGS3 while plugged in and it was charging very slow as per my observation (not measured)...I was using it for close to 2 hours for web browsing, youtube videos, google play store, text editing, etc (no games) and my battery was basically at the same place below 5%, sometimes it even dropped to 2%. I checked the OS task manager and there didn't seem to be anything that would be draining the battery especially. I restarted my phone and it started charging fast again (while using). I wasn't able to bust out my ammeter during that time unfortunately because of where I was.
whosy said:
I can confirm the need to short white & green.
Disclaimer: That's is just what I knew about my old Captivate. Shorting those two wires on that setup could blow up your phone, so make sure you setup a video camera to catch the the explosion if you try this.
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I've tried this, but according to what I've read and via testing, the stock charger already has the data lines shorted-this is how it signals the SGS3 to draw more than 500mA. Data lines don't really carry much of any current so blowing up or damaging a phone seems highly unlikely...though if you shorted the data lines on an Apple charger it could be bad for the charger since they carry specific voltages on Apple wall chargers.
salils said:
I've tried this, but according to what I've read and via testing, the stock charger already has the data lines shorted. Data lines don't really carry any current so blowing up or damaging a phone seems highly unlikely...though if you shorted the data lines on an Apple charger it could be bad for the charger since they carry voltage on Apple chargers.
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Agreed.
Also, the last CONNECTION in the chain....I mean the one that physically plugs into the S3....needs to either see or have the data wires connected/shorted to each other. Example: the charger has white/green data wires shorted...it's plugged into a desktop cradle...but the cradle is wired to bypass the white/green data wires....then the S3 will not get the message to fast charge.
UPDATE: all the above possibly depending on Kernel? I say this because I am using a charger and cable that has NO data pin wires 2 and 3, but I still measure fast/full charge rate.
salils said:
I doubt my kernal supports that...just running stock except I rooted it. Do you know if the stock rom supports this? Haven't had time to look into all the stuff needed custom roms, tweaks, etc. Another reason to start researching that stuff...arg
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Try this to see if it works: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget (current widget.) If your kernel shows charging current, this widget will show it (CurrentWidget.) I don't know which type of SGS3 you have (i9300 or a North American version?) If you have the i9300, almost all the custom kernels support showing the current. For the Qualcomm based ones, I have no idea. (My wife won't let me hack her AT&T SGS3.)
salils said:
Yes, I checked this, it says AC...strangely, it also says AC when I plug into an Apple charger, which as you might know carries specific voltages on the data lines as opposed to having the data lines shorted. Just to check that it wasn't detecting everything as an AC source, I plugged my my SGS3 into my Macbook Pro and it did recognize it as USB source, not AC.
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Then the kernel should be kicking the phone into higher current charging mode. Odd... (I never actually measured the current on the USB wire myself, so no idea what THAT might be showing..)
Has anyone figured out what the deal is with the S3's strange charging rates? I've seen some other people report similar issues of their ammeter showing under 300mA rates on the stock charger even when the battery was awfully depleted (one would assume a faster charger when the battery isn't very full).
Have you tested the charging time while charging through that setup? I bet it takes longer than without it. If it does... Try cleaning and soldering the wires together. I don't know what they've been exposed to or for how long, but even slightly corroded wires twisted together with oily/salty fingers could cause power loss and more corrosion. Then you factor in the alligator clips, the unknown quality wiring attached to them and the other alligator clips clipped onto you multimeter.... Could explain it all right there. Drain it to a known batt percent (say 40) and charge it up... Then do the same with your testing setup. Leave the meter powered on the whole time if it's batteries can take it for a real test of your setup. Then report your findings.
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Your setup might also introduce considerable resistance with your ammeter cables and all additional connections made to messure. There can easily be extra 2meters of wire + at least 6 extra connections (usb --> aligator clip --> wire --> ammeter --> wire --> aligator clip --> usb).
But that should not account for 600+mA.
Anyone uncover this mystery yet? Any leads? I lost my official Samsung charger, so I'm starting to get desperate again.
resistance
Twisting the wires together is probably interfering with the detection of the charger capabilities. Try soldering the connections instead of just twisting them. Take a look at the specs on how charger ICs detect the charger and apply the appropriate power: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq24392.pdf
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I agree the resistance you've accumulated between the bad connections, alligator clips and the ammeter itself might be showing the phone enough resistance that it lowers the charge rate. I just finished building a little analog inline ammeter and I am reading just a fraction under 1 amp. I got the 5 amp meter from amazon and split the red on a 2.5 foot oem (knock off) cable. I wanted a short cable to eliminate any added resistance. All connections are also soldered.
Hope this helps mate
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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I have been contemplating using a wireless charger for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...id=1384311056&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+charger
I don't mind plugging in my phone into a wired charger at night but thought it would be cool to have a wireless one right underneath the radio receiver in my car. That way I don't have to bother plugging it in when I get in the car and can just lay it where I normally do anyways while getting a charge.
That one only measures 3.6" x 3.6" so it would be perfect.
Am I the only one?
I've got the same issue with my Anker charger, which is a 2A charger and worked brilliantly with my galaxy note 2. I also checked it with my friend's s4 and the galaxy charge current app, his s4 pulled 1.5A from it so I have no idea why the nexus 5 doesn't charge properly using it.
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arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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A couple of things to look at first before you throw your charger out with the bathwater. When you charge, does the settings -> battery screen say charging (AC) or charging (USB)? It is my understanding that "USB" charging is supplied at a lower rate (~500maH) which is less than GPS, screen on and Waze may consume. Charging (AC) is much higher aka "fast charging". If you use a data USB cable on DC, Android phones have been known to default to the lower USB charging level. I had the same in-car battery drain problem on my N4 and switched to a power only cable and it solved the problem, YMMV. You can modify a data usb cable by shorting pins or you can buy a power only USB cable. Search amazon for PortaPow and it should pop up.
http://www.amazon.com/Release-Anker...=1384318572&sr=8-6&keywords=anker+car+charger
just bought this, looks good with 4.8 AMPs combined output and 2.4 at each end.
burgerpimp07 said:
I have been contemplating using a wireless charger for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...id=1384311056&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+charger
I don't mind plugging in my phone into a wired charger at night but thought it would be cool to have a wireless one right underneath the radio receiver in my car. That way I don't have to bother plugging it in when I get in the car and can just lay it where I normally do anyways while getting a charge.
That one only measures 3.6" x 3.6" so it would be perfect.
Am I the only one?
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I've seen car mods where the some guys placed it under the change slot, the slot right in front of the shifter that also has a cigg lighter adaptor aka 12V adaptor. Also where they've placed it directly under the cup holder. I'm thinking of getting a DT900 and wiring it under the change slot and have it just sitting in there.
D3_ said:
I've got the same issue with my Anker charger, which is a 2A charger and worked brilliantly with my galaxy note 2. I also checked it with my friend's s4 and the galaxy charge current app, his s4 pulled 1.5A from it so I have no idea why the nexus 5 doesn't charge properly using it.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I've been in contact with Anker support over this. After them telling me the phone must be using over 2A and that's why it's not charging while plugged in to the Anker charger and me dismissing that as the stock AC charger is 1.2A and works fine, I got this reply:
I heard from other customers that there is special design with Nexus 5 phone. Anyway, I will forward your problem to our engineer to further investigation and testing. Thanks for your understanding in advance.
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Anyway after reading a few of the newer comments here I decided to check whether it was being detected as AC charging or USB charging, which would explain the issue, but the phone reported AC so I have no idea why it won't charge properly. Probably something LG/Google implemented to prevent overheating.
arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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http://www.amazon.ca/PowerGen-Dual-...qid=1384342096&sr=8-1&keywords=powergen+3.6+a
Have two myself. Can charge phone and tablet with both at full load.
grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.
grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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RedWingsFan said:
Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.
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Funnily enough, ordering this from the US amazon site with shipping to the UK is still cheaper than buying it from the UK amazon site (or seemingly anywhere else in the UK.)
RedWingsFan said:
Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.
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grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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And one more vote for this charger. I have been using it for over a year and it works great with all the phones I've had, including the Nexus 5. I also use Waze and stream Spotify while in the car, and a good charger (like this one) will always leave you with a positive battery %.
Thanks for all the help guy's, I am in Canada, and its the same as the UK, I find it cheaper to get it from the USA including shipping, if not Amazon the flea bay will have it .
I purchased a 5$ usb charger at walgreens about a year ago. I've been using it with a generic micro usb cord for both my galaxy nexus and now with my Nexus 5 with no issues.
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Wireless_Car_Charger.html
Anyone have an experience with this charger?
twister99403 said:
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Wireless_Car_Charger.html
Anyone have an experience with this charger?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47428957&postcount=124
I'm in the UK and use a New Trent Arcadia charger (Amazon link) in the car, which did a good job with my previous phone, a Galaxy S3. I have not really used the charger with navigation in anger, just some short trips to test, and what I've found is that Waze seems to need a fair bit more power than Maps - as with the OP the battery level is still decreasing, albeit more slowly, while navigating with Waze. My charger appears to keep up with Maps, though.
With the S3, I did find that the charger did charge the battery more slowly when navigating with Waze than when navigating using Google Maps as well.
Shame, because for some journeys I actually prefer to use Waze.
With that in mind, though, I think the New Trent is a decent choice.
grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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+1 i too have the same one...I got it from fommy and I just love it...it works well both with my N3 and N5....
arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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Had the same issue. You just have to enable the fast charge option in f.e. Trickster. After enabling this option your phone will be charged even when using a gps navi etc.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
I bought this one for the dedicated cord that comes with it. But the other Anker people suggested is just as good.
http://www.amazon.com/portable-Incl...=1386027159&sr=1-3&keywords=anker+car+charger