I bought this kit from e-bay and just got it in today, so have been trying it out on my drive from home <-> work.
The problem is, the car charger they supplied doesn't seem to be sufficient to charge the phone or at least keep its battery at a constant state when I'm using it as a GPS + Streaming music. On my drive home, I started at about 50% battery life. An hour or so later, I was down to about 35ish with it plugged in nearly the entire time. So clearly it's not pumping enough juice to the device
I was thinking of buying one of these from monoprice but I wanted to make sure it really would give me enough power. Obviously the power isn't that big of an issue, but I don't want to wait for it to ship only to find out that it doesn't help anyways.
Anyone tried the monoprice one I linked to, or one of the other ones from there? Or can suggest one to buy from elsewhere? Would greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I should mention, I have a car charger uhh splitter thing...to split the one socket into two (one for an FM transmitter, and one for the phone). Could this be a limiting factor in how much power I'm getting to the phone as well? Or should the single socket have enough power for both devices?
I got a Kensington PowerBolt from Future Shop which claims to be 2.1 amps and I still drained the battery a bit when testing the nav. Possibly not as much as you but there is still a net loss. If the charger is accurate in its power then I presume my car isn't delivering enough power.
Any car charger that supports the ipad should be well above 1.0a. Whether it delivers that is a question I cannot answer.
Im going to test direct power charging while having the nav on to see if this thing can ever charge positive while in nav mode. I wonder if that has ever been done.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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They are a little more prevalent thanks to the ipads higher power requirements for charging.
Future Shop has a few of them available now if you want. A little expensive though at $30+. I don't see the PowerBolt anymore which is too bad since that was a slim model that barely poked out of the socket.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Excellent. I am going to give that a try. I have one of those flat retractable cables so its going to be a pain in the ass to do but its worth it.
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Do you mean this? Isn't 2 amps too much though?
Didn't make it up - just havent looked in the last 6 months. Ur right they are pretty common now.
Might invest in one
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin. You want to short pins 2 and 3 together which are Data- and Data+. Normally that is WHITE and GREEN
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Once you do that, you'll have a charge only cable.
Here's the detailed directions:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46449
I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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Are you saying that the phone will only draw a max of 750mAmps and so anything greater wont provide utility?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin........
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Awesome! I'll try this out and see if it works, thank you
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I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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I thought there might be a limit on how much current you can provide at any one time.
On the original subject: I've started using a different car charger, and now have it plugged directly into the socket in my car. This results in it showing up as being charged by AC power in the settings -> phone status. However, it still loses power over time instead of keeping at the same charge or (ideally) charging the phone slowly.
I'm going to see if I can get my hands on that 2A charger and modify a cable, and see what happens then.
If anyone would like to see if the same thing happens to them, the main applications I have running are:
Google Navigation
TuneIn Radio (streaming from one of the DI.FM stations, and outputting audio to the headphone jack to my car)
I have 3g and GPS on, wifi off, brightness set to auto (have also tried with it set to the lowest it goes and the highest it goes, doesn't seem to make a substantial difference. Or even if it does, there is still a net loss in battery charge.)
It's on stock rogers rom, rooted, with no lag fix. And uhhh, that's all I can think of that would be relevant.
I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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You should still get the same number of "phone charges" out from the pack...they'll just be quicker charges afaik. i.e. if the pack took 4 hours to do a full phone charge before, it may only take 2 hours now. The same amount of power is used up each time though.
any progress?
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Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!
Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.
Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i've had android phones since year one. i've always bought my accessories from cellphoneshop.net and never had a problem
Dude, go to wallymart or somewhere and get an AC converter. I bought one with 2 AC outlets and 1 USB for fairly cheap at wallymart. You wont regret it. It charges my laptop, phone, and gf's phone just fine.
Monoprice has a 1a usb charger for $1.33. I was looking at it yesterday but don't have the link handy at the moment. They're also the best place to buy usb cables too.
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Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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+1 I have this Motorola charger and it's great. There was even a whole thread full of people repping it a few forum pages back
$1.40 cheaper, $5.07 right now and Prime shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1323803924&sr=1-2
Thanks for the original link!
The best car chargers I've found are the Palm chargers for the Pre. For some reason they seem to work much better than any other car charger that I have used. You just need to make sure you get model number 3453WW, because there is also an older model that looks the same but doesn't provide the full 1A charge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palm-OEM-Ve...386850?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb9e680e2
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Damn. I was wondering WHY in the world this phone took SO STINKING LONG to charge. I mean OVER NIGHT and still not quite done sometimes (extended battery)
Gonna stalk me some good chargers
so instead of starting my own thread.. thought id bump this up...
any new chargers out there.. for car... can be either the usb one (as i have the cig lighter to usb plug... )..or cig lighter..
just feeling out there if anything has changed..
we went on a LONG drive.. 376miles.. and using gps and my phone in my infuse dock.. it was charging.. but draining more than charging... by 1/2 way it was below 50%.... so the road i needed to take was super long so just turned phone off for a while...
was using the charger from my wifes incognito so i figured maybe that car charger didnt have enough A to it.. so bought a new charger from walmart.. and it didnt do any better...
thanks guys...
p.s. on my way home from work (1hr drive) im going to plug straight into my phone instead of the infuse dock and run the gps and see if it charges any different...
Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.
R1ptide said:
Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.
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How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?
Still using my Palm Pre car chargers. Had them since the Pre days back in 2009 and they still work great. Buy.com has them for $6.95 with free shipping.
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=210687470&ic=1
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How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?
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drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i use same charger. it is call motorolla rapid charger .
Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
By the way, I can't endorse this product. I hope you get the general idea. As always you get what you pay for. Read the reviews and look for the inverter that you think would work best for you.
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R1ptide said:
drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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I just want to make sure I'm not going to blow up when I do this.
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supdawg said:
Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!
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I would recommend getting the AC/usb adapter for an iphone or ipad, because they tend to run on a higher voltage (5v) than many cheap AC/usb adapters you can probably find off-brand one pretty cheap all over. If anything just make sure your adapter runs on about 5v. I just recommened iphone ones because there are more accessory manufacturers for i-products and you can generally find a wider selection of what you are looking for regarding this topic. I would check walmart first if money is an issue.
JimSmith94 said:
Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.
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The 1 amp charger i got from the dollar store already had this in place. I cant say I would have recommended anyone to get one from the dollar store. Ive checked out the components on this one its not too bad.
kc_exactly said:
Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
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Note that most cheap inverters use a modified sine wave to gain efficiencies over 80%. Most phone chargers will work okay you might get a little buzzing. But you will often run into chargers, power supplies etc that will only operate properly on a pure sine wave inverter.
Hi
When using GPS on my HOX while charging at car, the phone usually drain more battery then the charge speed, meaning i see msg of less then 30% if i want to exit.
then i searched online and i found that if the Phone find the car charger it usually change charging to 500ma and not the 1000ma usually.
1. How can i check the charging Amp ? i wont to test few of my car chargers.
2. Can anyone recommend of good AC like car charger ?
i found some Kinsington and Griffin 2.1A ones, but i'm quite sure its for iPad and still be recognized as DC (0.5A)
its not AC or DC that effects the current output of the device
you simply need to find a car charger with a 5 watt (5 volt @ 1 amp) output
like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Griffin-GC2...W6/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1338119269&sr=8-12
note the iphone compatibility is simply because they include an ipod cable, use the HOX cable and you'll be fine
I have to original one, and its 5v/1A
but i still read that DC identified charger gives 500ma instead of 1A in the AC one.
this is what i use, fast charging 1amp 5v
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-MINI-...neChargers&hash=item5d2eda3aec#ht_1961wt_1139
Many chargers designed for iOS devices will only charge non-Apple devices at 500mA even if the charger is rated at 1A. The Battery Status will read "Charging (USB)" instead of "Charging (AC)". You can often fix this by shorting the middle two USB leads in the charger (in Type A connectors, these are the data lines). Or you can get a charge-only cable which essentially does the same thing:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro-USB-Charging-Cable/dp/B003VYBCAY
The problem you are having is that most OEM car charger manufacturers don’t appreciate how our smartphones work, and they neglect to short the two data pins out in your charger.
When you plug your official HTC wall charger in, the phone detects that the two unnecessary data pins are shorted out (as obviously HTC know to do this) and the phone will not limit it’s own charge to 500mA.
Use an unofficial charger, and the phone see no short on the data pins and so assumes it’s plugged into a PC/laptop USB port, and will restrict it’s own charging to 500mA to prevent damage to a motherboard.
Your car charger may very well be capable of dishing out 1A, but they manufacturers just didn’t appreciate what they need to do to tell your phone to start taking it.
I have had this trouble before, and there are a couple of options.
1) Only use official HTC car charger.
2) Take a spare charging cable, and carefully peel back the insulation. Then carefully cut back the screen. You’ll find 4 wires. Red, black, green & white. It is the green and white that are data. Cut these. The end of the cable that plugs into the phone, twist the white and green cables together. Insulate with electrical tape. Tape the cable back up. NEVER USE THIS CABLE WITH A PC/LAPTOP. But you should now find you charge at AC.
Been using a modified cable in my car charger for years, including with this HOX with no problems.
Check the "battery use" under settings>power.
While charging, it will say "Charging (USB)" or "Charging (AC)". If it is charging (AC), then your cable is ok, just make sure your charger's output rating is 5V x 1A.
Also, note that if your in a hot country, and your phone is under the windsheild, under sunlight, the phone would heat up & not charge (light will flash red).
wnp_79, can i just disassemble the car charger and make the bridge there ?
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wnp_79, can i just disassemble the car charger and make the bridge there ?
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Yes. The data pins are the two center ones I think. Should be obvious add they wont be connected to anything else in the charger. Good luck!
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Yes. The data pins are the two center ones I think. Should be obvious add they wont be connected to anything else in the charger. Good luck!
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I did this with my Griffin charger, was pretty easy to disassemble and solder the two middle pins together, now shows as charging AC.
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Yes. The data pins are the two center ones I think. Should be obvious add they wont be connected to anything else in the charger. Good luck!
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Just purchased a PowerJolt on Amazon and noticed there were a few user-uploaded photos showing which pins soldered together. You are correct, it's the two center pins.
Interestingly, one buyer noted that their pins were already soldered together from the factory.
Source/Photos: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0042B9U8Q/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
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Thanks guys! Really useful info! I always thought it's my Belkin chargers fault
I think there's a bit more to it than simply shorting the data wires.
I'd try the official hox cable in the charger before messing with wires. For some reason 3rd party cables show as ac for me but the power level is severely reduced compared to the official.
Has anyone tried the HTC CC C100 or CC C200?
Bought the eBay car charger that was recommended earlier, but still get USB charging with it in my 05 Focus + the HTC charging cable
- Could my car the problem????
Anyway was looking at either the Griffin PowerJolt that was also recommended earlier or the official car charger
- Just want to make sure I get AC charging when using GPS!
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Has anyone tried the HTC CC C100 or CC C200?
Bought the eBay car charger that was recommended earlier, but still get USB charging with it in my 05 Focus + the HTC charging cable
- Could my car the problem????
Anyway was looking at either the Griffin PowerJolt that was also recommended earlier or the official car charger
- Just want to make sure I get AC charging when using GPS!
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I've got the c200 and it works at full ac speed as long as I use an official htc cable with it.
Bought CC C200 from Amazon (£4.69 from 3rd party seller, but fulfilled by Amazon)
Does give AC charging =)
Need to do some more testing, as I get AC charging using the "curly" HTC cable I got with the CC C200, with one of the other USB car chargers I have + want to double check that phone doesn't drain, using GPS even with AC charging
=)
From the testing done so far, even with AC charging - it doesn't provide enough power to run GPS (CoPilot), without losing charge & was running Core Control - using 2 cores
Going to test another car to start ruling things out =(
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From the testing done so far, even with AC charging - it doesn't provide enough power to run GPS (CoPilot), without losing charge & was running Core Control - using 2 cores
Going to test another car to start ruling things out =(
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I use CoPilot (v8) quite a bit, mine manages to hold charge and stay topped up.
I think being in (not very sunny UK) helps as if the One X is in direct sunlight it will warm up, add charging and use and you have a recipe for heat.
Maybe try directing an AC vent on to your handset.
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From the testing done so far, even with AC charging - it doesn't provide enough power to run GPS (CoPilot), without losing charge & was running Core Control - using 2 cores
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Install something like Battery Monitor and check how fast it is charging (when battery is < 80% full).
If it is < 500mah it's your charger.
I am using a Brodit holder and my One X charges when using Sygic, on full brightness and no tweaks.
Battery Monitor Widget Pro installed - monitoring seems funny, as it seems to update every few minutes, rather than "real-time"
Managed to get 1 charger / cable combination to charge AC and only just provide less power than needed (i.e. battery still went down, but a lot slower than other combos)
Still testing, but appreciate all the suggestions! Thanks!
UPDATE: I've tested and verified that a 2amp charger isn't any faster than 1amp.
The charger that comes with the S3 outputs 1.0 amp (5V), and my old Galaxy S1 Captivate came with a 0.7amp charger. Both are better than the measily 0.5amps that most computer USB ports output, which is barely enough juice for the phone to break even (let alone charge) when you're using your phone with the display brightness at 100%. Obviously the fastest way to charge is with the phone off, or a spare battery, but most of us don't do that.
How many of you are using an aftermarket 2amp usb wall charger without issue, and have you measured how much faster it charges? Also, will this faster charging reduce the S3's battery life, or is it within tolerances and Samsung just cheaped out on the included A/C charger?
As long as it's safe, I'm thinking about buying one of these $10 2amp chargers off amazon...
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UPDATE: I read elsewhere that a 2amp charger can't really hurt your phone because there's obviously "smart" circuitry inside that limits the current anyway. If it really is smart, then the upside to 2amps SHOULD BE that when you're charging with the screen on @ 100% brightness, that more juice goes to the battery with the "extra" going to the display, instead of subtracting from what the battery gets.
Short answer: the two amp charger won't hurt the phone, plus it also is highly unlikely it will charge any faster on this particular phone.
The preceding discussion applies to "dumb" chargers and batteries (which ShannonPricePhoto pointed to a few posts ago). Increasing the charge voltage causes the battery to draw more current depending on the state of charge. The trick is we have both a smart charger and a smart battery in his phone. Lithium-ion batteries actually contain circuitry to prevent them from being overcharged inside the battery.
The cell phone industry has agreed on a worldwide standard cell phone charger as follows: it uses a micro USB connector (not a mini USB) they all charge at 5 V, the smart controller for charging the battery is inside the phone, and it determines how much voltage the battery receives during the charging cycle. (Not the charger, like a dumb charger used to charge a car battery, which changes its output voltage)
The standard allows for charger supplies ranging from 300 milliamps to 1 amp, and the phone can actually inquire what the capacity of the charger is through the USB data line.
Reading the standard makes me wonder if using the larger charger would allow the phone to take advantage of the full 2 amp capacity of the charger. One post indicated that older devices that were not covered by the cell phone standard may likely have charged quicker with a two amp charger, but I seriously doubt your phone will because it wasn't designed to do so. This however is an educated guess. One way to really find out is get two chargers and compare by measuring the actual current?
For even more reading
The first website discusses the standard mobile phone charger, the second discusses batteries.
Universal Serial Bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
battery myths vs battery facts - free information to help you learn the difference
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I'll update again later with BATTERY STATS when I get my charger...
I'm using Andru... it's an Android Shaped USB Charger at 2.0amps... thanks for reminding me because I need to get an extra one...
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Input: 0.2A
Output: 1.0A
deedscreen said:
I'm using Andru... it's an Android Shaped USB Charger at 2.0amps... thanks for reminding me because I need to get an extra one...
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Hah - cute, but are you sure yours is 2amps? The only one I can find is 1amp, and kinda pricey @ $25 (or $22.44 on ebay).
Well, I can't say for sure for the retail version. I am a Journalist & Product Reviewer at ACS, (ACSyndicate) so I got a beta product to test and review...
Q: Am I crazy for going on the S3 Forums all the time, and planning for my upgrade in June???
Attn Mods: I'm not spamming, just making a point... *Just for those snippy mods, if they exist... *
I'm gonna check right now..
Guess I'm stupid... mine is 0.2amps... Well, Time for me to upgrade my charger, all though Andru is cute! LOL
I feel stupid now... It doesn't charge slowly though...
Edit: :banghead: WTF? I'm stupid! I read the input... the output is 1.0A... sorry guys... realllly tired.
According to this article:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/115251-how-usb-charging-works-or-how-to-avoid-blowing-up-your-smartphone
you should be okay ...
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...chPad-Power-Charger&&rwCatalog=-&rwCategory=-
2 amp charger designed for the hp touch pad. $10.24 shipped. You might be charged sales tax. Mine is faster than stock, I think, but I haven't timed it. Also comes with quality usb cable.
I bought 1, then two more...
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deedscreen said:
Guess I'm stupid... mine is 0.2amps... Well, Time for me to upgrade my charger, all though Andru is cute! LOL
I feel stupid now... It doesn't charge slowly though...
:banghead: WTF? I'm stupid!
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Thanks for fact checking, like all good journalists.
All I know it's that the phone barely charged last night streaming Pandora. I actually had to turn it off to get out to charge to 100%.
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Yours is 1amp. The .2 amps you're looking at is the power input. It's power output is 1 amp.
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Yours is 1amp. The .2 amps you're looking at is the power input. It's power output is 1 amp.
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Didn't realize that it was part of the Input Section also...
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Yours is 1amp. The .2 amps you're looking at is the power input. It's power output is 1 amp.
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Just realized that and modified my previous post.. I've been up since 4AM EST yesterday morning and it's 12:44 EST the next day... :what: I'm stupidly tired... lol
ogubodagris said:
Yours is 1amp. The .2 amps you're looking at is the power input. It's power output is 1 amp.
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Thank you for helping me when I've been up for nearly 21hours... and busy all day to top it off....
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http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...chPad-Power-Charger&&rwCatalog=-&rwCategory=-
2 amp charger designed for the hp touch pad. $10.24 shipped. You might be charged sales tax. Mine is faster than stock, I think, but I haven't timed it. Also comes with quality usb cable.
I bought 1, then two more...
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I second this. Have 2 of them.
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I'm OCD and only use the manufacturers chargers with the phones.
Samsung Galaxy Tab Travel Chargers are 2A.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Samsung...Accessories&hash=item3377d77af1#ht_908wt_1059
That's just how I roll. I ended up with 2 of them. I keep one at home, one at work and use the standard chargers over night.
I've read that the phone will draw 1.0A of power to charge regardless if the charger outputs more than 1.0A
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I just got by my experience. I timed it at x% to 100 and it's faster every time.
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I just purchased the 2A wall charger from Monoprice ($8). It has a total of 4 usb ports, with one being 2A.
So far, I can say that the 2A port does seem to charge faster than the stock charger.
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This is a review of Anker Bolt 3.6A (18W) Dual USB Car Charger: Anker Car Charger
From my own personal experience I use Note 2 every day as GPS to/from work. Everything is usually on (display, bluetooth), plus GPS/Google maps are up, and I take/make phone calls in a middle of all that. What does that mean? Battery is draining really fast, and even with car charger you need at least 2A output to be able to charge at faster rate than discharging with everything on. 2A charger is not hard to find, although question always come up if you can trust their actual rating. If you want to take it to the next level and charge another smart phone, you can probably find a dual charger with 2A and 1A, although reliability and current sharing during simultaneous use of ports might be in question. This new product from Anker took it to the next level where they are offering dual port output with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs and guarantee full current supply from each port at the same time. In terms of reliability, they are offering 18 months warranty which I think is a bold statement of confidence in their product.
3.6A, which is 18W, is a lot of power and to my surprise the charger was actually very small and lightweight. The dimensions of the end with dual ports is only 26 mm x 24 mm, and the whole charger is very lightweight and only 22g. This small size is very convenient for tight spaces like in your arm-rest compartment, and just in general is unobtrusive to use anywhere in the car. I know they advertise it as dual port with 2.1A for Apple (obviously iPad) and 1.5A for smart phones, but I confirmed that our Note 2 charges perfectly from Apple port. As a matter of fact that would be the best port to use for Note 2 fast charging. I took a picture in my car to demonstrate that both of the ports worked charging Note 2.
Overall it's a great little dual usb port car charger from a trusted company with a punch of 3.6A capacity split between 2.1A and 1.5A ports where both can be used simultaneously so you can do a fast charging of two devices at the same time. Plus, you can get it on Amazon for under $12 which is a bargain.
Here are a few pics:
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How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please
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How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please
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Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.
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Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.
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You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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That's right I'm on US version under Verizon. Those are the exact 2 variants that don't work with this app
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You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one
D3_ said:
Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one
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Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one
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Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one
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Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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D3_ said:
Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2
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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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I'd go with what Vectron suggested.
In the UK the only cable I've found that does is an old BlackBerry usb cable my cousin had. Swapped it for a spare cable I had that only did 1A because her phone only charges at 1A anyway.
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vectron said:
Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2
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I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.
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I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.
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Absolutely, it's low voltage drop cable design. Plus it never failed me in the car either if it's 100deg C or down to single digits.
Just ordered one to see if it'll trigger my iBolt Dock's USB charging/audio feature. Hopefully it does...if it doesn't, well least I can charge two phones in the car at once now.
Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours
VitaliyUvakin said:
Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours
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Can't be the cable. It's just a thick wire. If it would have been defective, you wouldn't be able to even charge it up to 72%, although you can never tell for sure. So you have used original Samsung 2A wall charger with it's original cable from the same AC wall outlet to charge up your Note 2 with Zerolemon before to 100% without any problem? I just want to baseline your working setup so you can troubleshoot from there. If it was working before in exactly the same setup and you only replaced the cable, can you go back to the original cable and see if it will charge it to 100% without a problem? If not, then it's something wrong with a cable. Make sure nothing funny is going on with your AC wall outlet plug. I discovered that in my house I have a few that not allowing me to do fast charging due to some electric wiring limitation. Also, make sure everything is connected all the way in. Depending on the case you are using, some of these micro-usb connectors are a bit too thick to go all the way in, and although it looks like you are charging - because connector is not mated all the way in, you have a bad contact and limiting charging current. I actually BET you that's exactly what is going on. I have so many usb-to-micro-usb cables around, can't keep track of it. But I remember at my work I had to slice a piece of micro-usb connector to make it thinner to work with my Zerolemon TPU, and I believe that was monoprice cable. Definitely check it out, cause that could be a problem in your case.
Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes
VitaliyUvakin said:
Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes
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Trim micro usb connector. Gotta be it.
It seems to fit pretty tight, but I will definitely try it.
Ha! The Anker direct store in ebay is selling this for $55!! What is it made of gold now? LOL.
hi. I'm noticing big differences in the charge rate depending on the cable i'm using. some cables can't charge the phone even if they have absolutely no issues with other phones, so i was thinking about creating some sort of cables db to help each other if we need to buy spare cables. i'm still looking for a good app to post more accurate tests, but for the moment here's what i've found.
cables (tested with the stock n5 charger)
n5 stock
no problem, charging at more than 1000 mA
amazon basics (1,8m)
not charging, discharge rate reduced of about 200 mA
sgs2 stock
very slow charging, about 200 mA
Premium USB to Micro USB Charge & Sync Cable 6ft- Black (link)
Charges at +1000ma with any of my 2a power supplies.
all in one chargers:
sgs2 stock
very slow charging, about 300 mA
i've tested other cables, but i can't remember where i got them, anyway none of them was charging the phone
i've tested the same cables with different chargers (all of them rated 1000mA) without major differences.
the tests were made using battery monitor widget.
if you have cables to test post the results here, i will update the op as soon as i can. please also test already tested cables to confirm what we've found.
i'm also looking for suggestion for better apps or better test methods.
Premium USB to Micro USB Charge & Sync Cable 6ft- Black
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Charges at +1000ma with any of my 2a power supplies.
I used my Sprint Samsung GSII (E4GT) charging brick and cable last night and under battery stats it showed charging (AC) and it seemed to be charging the phone quickly.
Is there a place to see this on the stock rom or do I have to download an app to see the voltage?
Raistlin1 said:
I used my Sprint Samsung GSII (E4GT) charging brick and cable last night and under battery stats it showed charging (AC) and it seemed to be charging the phone quickly.
Is there a place to see this on the stock rom or do I have to download an app to see the voltage?
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i used the app because i don't know a better way.
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i used the app because i don't know a better way.
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what app did you used?
i wanna do this tests too
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what app did you used?
i wanna do this tests too
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i used battery monitor widget. play store link. the better option is to let it run and post an average of the graph or you can just post the instant value but it's not so accurate...
Ok, I've made a more accurate test and I've taken some screenshots, for the moment I'm going to upload them here, tomorrow I'll update the op.
OK, this is a charge using stock charger and cable, from around 50% to 100%.
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A bit slower than previous time, but nothing major. At the moment I was sleeping, so as usual for me it was in flight mode and with sleep as Android app running.
This is a partial charge (14% to 55%) with the stock charger and the Amazon basics cable.
much faster than previous test, but still not enough. Tested with very light use, and in flight mode for most of the time.
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I have several PortaPow 24AWG fast charge cables, best money I ever spent. My phone actually charges in the car now (and fast) while I'm using gps and streaming music over bluetooth, the cheap ebay cables I had before couldn't charge my devices while in use. When I use the Portapow cables they show up as AC charging in the battery settings instead of usb like the old ones.
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I have several PortaPow 24AWG fast charge cables, best money I ever spent. My phone actually charges in the car now (and fast) while I'm using gps and streaming music over bluetooth, the cheap ebay cables I had before couldn't charge my devices while in use. When I use the Portapow cables they show up as AC charging in the battery settings instead of usb like the old ones.
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just to clarify, all the cables i've tested are showing up as AC even if the charge is so slow.
Ahh ok, I found my cheap/slow cables would show usb under battery settings. I'm finding the Portapow cables very good though, I've tested them on my cars usb input, a Ventev r2200 4.2A charger, and a Kensington Powerbolt 4.2 and have performed flawlessly so far. I'll have to do a few more test and post the results up here. :good:
I have read reports of some users complaining that their micro usb cables don't fit in certain nexus 5 cases. Does anyone know of any cables (preferably that charge well lol) that are slim around the connector?
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I have read reports of some users complaining that their micro usb cables don't fit in certain nexus 5 cases. Does anyone know of any cables (preferably that charge well lol) that are slim around the connector?
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the cable suggested by @gtj0 seems to be slim enough, but better wait for him.
KoRRo89 said:
hi. I'm noticing big differences in the charge rate depending on the cable i'm using. some cables can't charge the phone even if they have absolutely no issues with other phones, so i was thinking about creating some sort of cables db to help each other if we need to buy spare cables.
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I've noticed the same. Some chargers/cables seem to charge quickly, other slowly, if at all, even though the phone indicates AC charge status. This is a great idea for a thread and DB. Do you think it's more the cable vs the charger?
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I've noticed the same. Some chargers/cables seem to charge quickly, other slowly, if at all, even though the phone indicates AC charge status. This is a great idea for a thread and DB. Do you think it's more the cable vs the charger?
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Yes, from what I've noticed it's more the cable. I only tested the original charger, another LG charger (1000 ma, from my old p990), a choiix (cooler master) 1000 ma charger, and my choiix external power bank. All the 3 1000 ma chargers are charging at almost the she speed, independently from the cable, che stock 1200 ma charger is definitely faster with the stock cable, no major differences with other cables, so I think the problem is definitely the cable.
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OK, so I've gone round all of my chargers and cables. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which option works best. Some cables hardly charge with some chargers, whereas charge much better with other chargers and vice versa. That being said the only comb that I've found that comes close to 1000mA is the LG charger and LG cable which came with the phone. All other combos max out at around 600mA and some combos hardly break 200mA.
Unfortunately I can't say what cables I've tried nor the chargers used. I just don't remember where they I bought them all or what device they came with.
Ok, this is the graph of tonight recharge using my power bank (1a out) and the stock cable WHILE PLAYNG INGRESS!
I can definitely say that (at least for me) the charger is absolutely not a problem
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so whats the difference here anyone want to guess? is this a matter of length of cable vs 22 awg vs 27awg type of thing?
did a fast test, my worst cables were the shortest ones oddly.
Ashcunak said:
so whats the difference here anyone want to guess? is this a matter of length of cable vs 22 awg vs 27awg type of thing?
did a fast test, my worst cables were the shortest ones oddly.
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I don't think it's a matter of length. For my cables it's true, the longest are the worst, but the sgs2 cable is just 2 or 3 cm longer than the n5 one and is far worst, just a bit better than the Amazon basics cable that is almost twice the length. Also one of the first replies was about a 1.8m cable that doesn't have any problem.
Regarding the awg I'm not totally sure because I don't know much about it. From what I know it's a measure system for the wires and it works the opposite than the metric system, so with the smallest numbers the cable gets bigger. The only cable with an awg number on it it's the Amazon one and it's a 28 awg. Seems strange that the n5 cable could be a 22 as hinted in your post since the Amazon cable seems to have almost a double external diameter compared to the stock one...
Also, according to a table I've found, a 28awg cable should be able to carry from 0.8 to 1.4 amps, far more than what I get using it.
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