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[Q] Where can I get a 1A car charger in Canada?

I bought this kit from e-bay and just got it in today, so have been trying it out on my drive from home <-> work.
The problem is, the car charger they supplied doesn't seem to be sufficient to charge the phone or at least keep its battery at a constant state when I'm using it as a GPS + Streaming music. On my drive home, I started at about 50% battery life. An hour or so later, I was down to about 35ish with it plugged in nearly the entire time. So clearly it's not pumping enough juice to the device
I was thinking of buying one of these from monoprice but I wanted to make sure it really would give me enough power. Obviously the power isn't that big of an issue, but I don't want to wait for it to ship only to find out that it doesn't help anyways.
Anyone tried the monoprice one I linked to, or one of the other ones from there? Or can suggest one to buy from elsewhere? Would greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I should mention, I have a car charger uhh splitter thing...to split the one socket into two (one for an FM transmitter, and one for the phone). Could this be a limiting factor in how much power I'm getting to the phone as well? Or should the single socket have enough power for both devices?

I got a Kensington PowerBolt from Future Shop which claims to be 2.1 amps and I still drained the battery a bit when testing the nav. Possibly not as much as you but there is still a net loss. If the charger is accurate in its power then I presume my car isn't delivering enough power.
Any car charger that supports the ipad should be well above 1.0a. Whether it delivers that is a question I cannot answer.
Im going to test direct power charging while having the nav on to see if this thing can ever charge positive while in nav mode. I wonder if that has ever been done.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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They are a little more prevalent thanks to the ipads higher power requirements for charging.
Future Shop has a few of them available now if you want. A little expensive though at $30+. I don't see the PowerBolt anymore which is too bad since that was a slim model that barely poked out of the socket.
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fatttire said:
I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.

I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Excellent. I am going to give that a try. I have one of those flat retractable cables so its going to be a pain in the ass to do but its worth it.
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alphadog00 said:
This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
lastdeadmouse said:
I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Do you mean this? Isn't 2 amps too much though?

Didn't make it up - just havent looked in the last 6 months. Ur right they are pretty common now.
Might invest in one
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ootz0rz said:
Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin. You want to short pins 2 and 3 together which are Data- and Data+. Normally that is WHITE and GREEN
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Once you do that, you'll have a charge only cable.
Here's the detailed directions:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46449

I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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Are you saying that the phone will only draw a max of 750mAmps and so anything greater wont provide utility?
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norcal einstein said:
You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin........
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Awesome! I'll try this out and see if it works, thank you
lastdeadmouse said:
I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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I thought there might be a limit on how much current you can provide at any one time.
On the original subject: I've started using a different car charger, and now have it plugged directly into the socket in my car. This results in it showing up as being charged by AC power in the settings -> phone status. However, it still loses power over time instead of keeping at the same charge or (ideally) charging the phone slowly.
I'm going to see if I can get my hands on that 2A charger and modify a cable, and see what happens then.
If anyone would like to see if the same thing happens to them, the main applications I have running are:
Google Navigation
TuneIn Radio (streaming from one of the DI.FM stations, and outputting audio to the headphone jack to my car)
I have 3g and GPS on, wifi off, brightness set to auto (have also tried with it set to the lowest it goes and the highest it goes, doesn't seem to make a substantial difference. Or even if it does, there is still a net loss in battery charge.)
It's on stock rogers rom, rooted, with no lag fix. And uhhh, that's all I can think of that would be relevant.

I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?

Moosehunter said:
I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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You should still get the same number of "phone charges" out from the pack...they'll just be quicker charges afaik. i.e. if the pack took 4 hours to do a full phone charge before, it may only take 2 hours now. The same amount of power is used up each time though.

any progress?

Need cheap car charger that charges full current

Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!

Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.

Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i've had android phones since year one. i've always bought my accessories from cellphoneshop.net and never had a problem

Dude, go to wallymart or somewhere and get an AC converter. I bought one with 2 AC outlets and 1 USB for fairly cheap at wallymart. You wont regret it. It charges my laptop, phone, and gf's phone just fine.

Monoprice has a 1a usb charger for $1.33. I was looking at it yesterday but don't have the link handy at the moment. They're also the best place to buy usb cables too.
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mrpickem said:
Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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+1 I have this Motorola charger and it's great. There was even a whole thread full of people repping it a few forum pages back

$1.40 cheaper, $5.07 right now and Prime shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1323803924&sr=1-2
Thanks for the original link!

The best car chargers I've found are the Palm chargers for the Pre. For some reason they seem to work much better than any other car charger that I have used. You just need to make sure you get model number 3453WW, because there is also an older model that looks the same but doesn't provide the full 1A charge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palm-OEM-Ve...386850?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb9e680e2
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Damn. I was wondering WHY in the world this phone took SO STINKING LONG to charge. I mean OVER NIGHT and still not quite done sometimes (extended battery)
Gonna stalk me some good chargers

so instead of starting my own thread.. thought id bump this up...
any new chargers out there.. for car... can be either the usb one (as i have the cig lighter to usb plug... )..or cig lighter..
just feeling out there if anything has changed..
we went on a LONG drive.. 376miles.. and using gps and my phone in my infuse dock.. it was charging.. but draining more than charging... by 1/2 way it was below 50%.... so the road i needed to take was super long so just turned phone off for a while...
was using the charger from my wifes incognito so i figured maybe that car charger didnt have enough A to it.. so bought a new charger from walmart.. and it didnt do any better...
thanks guys...
p.s. on my way home from work (1hr drive) im going to plug straight into my phone instead of the infuse dock and run the gps and see if it charges any different...

Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.

R1ptide said:
Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.
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How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?

Still using my Palm Pre car chargers. Had them since the Pre days back in 2009 and they still work great. Buy.com has them for $6.95 with free shipping.
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=210687470&ic=1
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proxy0 said:
How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?
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drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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mrpickem said:
Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i use same charger. it is call motorolla rapid charger .

Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
By the way, I can't endorse this product. I hope you get the general idea. As always you get what you pay for. Read the reviews and look for the inverter that you think would work best for you.
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R1ptide said:
drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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I just want to make sure I'm not going to blow up when I do this.
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supdawg said:
Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!
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I would recommend getting the AC/usb adapter for an iphone or ipad, because they tend to run on a higher voltage (5v) than many cheap AC/usb adapters you can probably find off-brand one pretty cheap all over. If anything just make sure your adapter runs on about 5v. I just recommened iphone ones because there are more accessory manufacturers for i-products and you can generally find a wider selection of what you are looking for regarding this topic. I would check walmart first if money is an issue.

JimSmith94 said:
Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.
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The 1 amp charger i got from the dollar store already had this in place. I cant say I would have recommended anyone to get one from the dollar store. Ive checked out the components on this one its not too bad.
kc_exactly said:
Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
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Note that most cheap inverters use a modified sine wave to gain efficiencies over 80%. Most phone chargers will work okay you might get a little buzzing. But you will often run into chargers, power supplies etc that will only operate properly on a pure sine wave inverter.

ONE X drains faster than it charges (GPS)..

Anyone else use their One X for turn by turn for more than an hour? On a recent trip I was on I was using my One X as my main GPS device (plugged in).. When I arrived at my destination I was amazed that my battery had been draining faster than it had been charging! Tested a few more times with the same result and I find the only way to stop it is to turn down the screen brightness to 10 where I can hardly see the screen making the GPS unusable ..
Sometimes I hate this phone..

You need a faster charger. Get one about 750-1000 mAh and will be fine.

The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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madenssblade said:
The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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I´ve seen mine over 700 mAh. It depends of your charger.

Was having same problems... Then i swapt the charger with original one... Now it charges like a charm
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madenssblade said:
The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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rubbish.
a 1 amp charger does and will charge the one x faster than a 500ma charger.

slashd0t said:
Anyone else use their One X for turn by turn for more than an hour? On a recent trip I was on I was using my One X as my main GPS device (plugged in).. When I arrived at my destination I was amazed that my battery had been draining faster than it had been charging! Tested a few more times with the same result and I find the only way to stop it is to turn down the screen brightness to 10 where I can hardly see the screen making the GPS unusable ..
Sometimes I hate this phone..
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I'm using a 1000 mAh charger don't ve this problem however it will stop charge when it gets over heated.

Tonyipad2 said:
I'm using a 1000 mAh charger don't ve this problem however it will stop charge when it gets over heated.
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best lie of the day

shiningarmor said:
best lie of the day
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whats a lie about it lol?

lawrence750 said:
whats a lie about it lol?
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durrrrrrrr
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holy ****, i read 100 mah instead of 1000.
my eyes are failing lol

Same experience here, international HOX drains a faster than charges from car plug. Using Belkin 1A charger and original 1m cable, Im getting only like 500 mA into the device. BUT the consumption actually depends on used navigation software, some drain 1A (HTC locations), but others are not that demanding, asking bellow 500 mA. And same is for heating issue.

Yeah I'm just using Google Navigation and a 1000mah charger..
The phone does get stupid hot while doing this, so, perhaps it's overheating and not charging as mentioned previously?

All 1A charging adapters aren't created equal. Same as with cheap MHL, HDMI, and USB cables. I use my G-Tab's car adapter and have never had any issues with heat or the phone pulling more current than the charge puts out. I've used it non-stop for trips over five hours too (while using A2DP to stream music at the same time and with Vlingo InCar checking e-mail every five minutes). You might want to try a more premium adapter before pulling your hair out troubleshooting the phone.

BarryH_GEG said:
All 1A charging adapters aren't created equal. Same as with cheap MHL, HDMI, and USB cables. I use my G-Tab's car adapter and have never had any issues with heat or the phone pulling more current than the charge puts out. I've used it non-stop for trips over five hours too (while using A2DP to stream music at the same time and with Vlingo InCar checking e-mail every five minutes). You might want to try a more premium adapter before pulling your hair out troubleshooting the phone.
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Have some original htc charger with 2 USB ports. And still same issue as op. Drains faster as it charges. What's a more premium charger to you?
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PAGOT said:
Have some original htc charger with 2 USB ports. And still same issue as op. Drains faster as it charges. What's a more premium charger to you?
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People in the car dock discussion were actually complaining about the included HTC charger. I bought some extra HTC standard U.S. USB charging adapters and cables from Expansys and one of the three was DOA. So I guess "premium" can't always be judged by brand.
Below is what I'm using. The problem with buying OEM chargers and cables is that eBay and Amazon are full of knock-offs that come in cellophane vs. manufacturers packaging. Over time I stopped buying cables and charges anywhere but places like Expansys, Clove, and Handtec. They cost more but I know they're real OEM parts and that they'll work (with the above exception); out of the box and over time.
http://www.expansys.com/accessory-finder/#manid=783&intstockcode=219790&atype=Power
EDIT: Duh. It's a 2A charger. I looked at the specs after I posted and looked at my actual charger to verify it. So get yourselves a 2A tablet (vs. phone) charger and I'm guessing that'll do the trick.

Like BarryH_GEG said, there are different types of 1A adaptors... I have two chargers - 1000mA generic and 1000mA HTC's charger that I've got in the package with original HTC car kit... If using generic, phone recognizes it as a USB (and charges realy slow), when using original-one It recognizes it as AC and charges as fast as when it is connected to normal 'wall plug'. So... Check in battery stats how your charger is recognized...
Of course it gets hot when charging at the same time when using GPS navigation, but it never overheats.

It's possible it's the charger, but, it's a high quality charger... I'll try swap it for a different kind and see how that goes..
Thanks all for the help.

just use a 1A (1000mA) charger. put your brightness not higher than 50% (prefer lower, but because of the sunlight, sometimes a bit higher than 33%)
it will even charge!
I got no problems with it
the One X can charge with 1A..
when you just use your normal inhouse charger, you've got a 1A charger, when you connect your phone to your notebook, you'll get 500mA. (0,5A)
for car chargers, look for a 1A charger, higher is useless.

I'm using the same official HTC car charger that I used with the Desire. It works perfectly, even when using Sat Nav.
This is the exact model (auction is just the first one I came across and is nothing to do with me)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Genuine-HTC-CC-C200-Micro-USB-Car-Charger-for-HTC-ONE-X-S-V-/200791540305?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item2ec01bc251

Kubino77 said:
Same experience here, international HOX drains a faster than charges from car plug. Using Belkin 1A charger and original 1m cable, Im getting only like 500 mA into the device. BUT the consumption actually depends on used navigation software, some drain 1A (HTC locations), but others are not that demanding, asking bellow 500 mA. And same is for heating issue.
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The Belkin chargers will never charge an Android device at 1000mA. The D+ and D- pins are not connected together, so the Android device (correctly) assumes it is plugged into a USB port.
You either need an official HTC/Samsung/Huawei in car charger, or a CHEAP chinese/taiwan one. The big-brand ones, like Belkin, are aimed at iPhones, and are non-compliant with the USB charging standard.
It's true that the One X will charge at a lower rate when it overheats (and hence discharge if the screen is on with Google Nav running). Dim the screen, or turn it off and rely on the voice instead.

Review of Anker 3.6A (18W) Dual USB Car Charger w/pics!

This is a review of Anker Bolt 3.6A (18W) Dual USB Car Charger: Anker Car Charger
From my own personal experience I use Note 2 every day as GPS to/from work. Everything is usually on (display, bluetooth), plus GPS/Google maps are up, and I take/make phone calls in a middle of all that. What does that mean? Battery is draining really fast, and even with car charger you need at least 2A output to be able to charge at faster rate than discharging with everything on. 2A charger is not hard to find, although question always come up if you can trust their actual rating. If you want to take it to the next level and charge another smart phone, you can probably find a dual charger with 2A and 1A, although reliability and current sharing during simultaneous use of ports might be in question. This new product from Anker took it to the next level where they are offering dual port output with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs and guarantee full current supply from each port at the same time. In terms of reliability, they are offering 18 months warranty which I think is a bold statement of confidence in their product.
3.6A, which is 18W, is a lot of power and to my surprise the charger was actually very small and lightweight. The dimensions of the end with dual ports is only 26 mm x 24 mm, and the whole charger is very lightweight and only 22g. This small size is very convenient for tight spaces like in your arm-rest compartment, and just in general is unobtrusive to use anywhere in the car. I know they advertise it as dual port with 2.1A for Apple (obviously iPad) and 1.5A for smart phones, but I confirmed that our Note 2 charges perfectly from Apple port. As a matter of fact that would be the best port to use for Note 2 fast charging. I took a picture in my car to demonstrate that both of the ports worked charging Note 2.
Overall it's a great little dual usb port car charger from a trusted company with a punch of 3.6A capacity split between 2.1A and 1.5A ports where both can be used simultaneously so you can do a fast charging of two devices at the same time. Plus, you can get it on Amazon for under $12 which is a bargain.
Here are a few pics:
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How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please

elite-fusion said:
How fast does it charge though. Post pictures of charge progress over a 15-20 minutes period please
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Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.

vectron said:
Don't know if I ever get around it. I'm testing my ZeroLemon 9300 mAh so I mostly discharging my battery rather than charging it up. Will take a while before I get to in car charging Beside for me timing charge in the car makes no sense because I use my N2 for GPS and calls all the time, so I'm discharging it at a heavy rate as it charges up. But for sure, it goes up 15%-20% with this charger during my 1hr commute, but only because I use GPS/BT/display fully on at max brightness. This car charger is true 2.1A/1.5A, so the charging time from 2.1A shouldn't be any different than our OEM wall charger.
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You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.

D3_ said:
You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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That's right I'm on US version under Verizon. Those are the exact 2 variants that don't work with this app

D3_ said:
You should be able to use the Galaxy Charge Current app (available on the play store) to see how much current it's supplying (although this may vary depending on the USB cable you use with it, a reason why I'm purchasing the variant with a built in micro-usb cable and a usb port) although I seem to remember you stating in another thread you had one of the US variants of the Note II and the app may not be compatible with those.
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Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one

D3_ said:
Quick update on this:
Although the Galaxy Charge Current app only reports the charger giving 1.2a, over an approximately 15 minute period with the screen on, music playback, GPS lock and video recording @ 720p with DailyRoads Voyager, the charger was still able to charge my N7100 from 80% to 86%, which isn't bad considering the heavy load it was under.
The particular charger I bought is this one
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Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one

vectron said:
Pretty good! But the one you bought is their old generation 15W charger (2.1A and 1A outputs), while this one is a revised new gen 18W with 2.1A and 1.5A outputs - this one
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Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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D3_ said:
Ah, thanks for the info. Seems I'm only missing out on 300mA though (one reviewer says the android port on that is rated at 1.5A and I get 1.2A from mine) so I don't think I'll go for that one. this way I know I'm going to get a decent charge no matter what usb cable I use. I've only got one that's actually capable of charging at full speed and having to take it everywhere I go would be annoying, the fixed charger on this is perfect for me.
Only posted here to help others looking for a decent car charger, as you did. Every other thread I see on the topic seems to recommend usb chargers such as yours but never recommend cables capable of utilising them to their full potential.
Anyway, keep up the great reviews
Most of them make me want to spend money I know I shouldn't on things I don't necessarily need
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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?

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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2

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Do you have any recommendations for usb cables that can take advantage of that charge speed?
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I'd go with what Vectron suggested.
In the UK the only cable I've found that does is an old BlackBerry usb cable my cousin had. Swapped it for a spare cable I had that only did 1A because her phone only charges at 1A anyway.
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Absolutely! I highly recommend to use Monoprice usb 28AWG/24AWG cables with Ferrite choker and gold-plated connectors. You need thicker cables to handle 2A current. Do not use thin computer cables designed for 500mA current.
Monoprice cables are very cheap too, 3ft for $1.08: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8640&seq=1&format=2 or 6ft for $1.40: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8641&seq=1&format=2
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I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.

lovekeiiy said:
I assume their premium would also have the throughput and low resistance to work as well.
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Absolutely, it's low voltage drop cable design. Plus it never failed me in the car either if it's 100deg C or down to single digits.

Just ordered one to see if it'll trigger my iBolt Dock's USB charging/audio feature. Hopefully it does...if it doesn't, well least I can charge two phones in the car at once now.

Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours

VitaliyUvakin said:
Ordered these cables from monoprice, used with my original charger and couldn't get my ZL9300 charged over 72%. Kept it on charger for over 12 hours
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Can't be the cable. It's just a thick wire. If it would have been defective, you wouldn't be able to even charge it up to 72%, although you can never tell for sure. So you have used original Samsung 2A wall charger with it's original cable from the same AC wall outlet to charge up your Note 2 with Zerolemon before to 100% without any problem? I just want to baseline your working setup so you can troubleshoot from there. If it was working before in exactly the same setup and you only replaced the cable, can you go back to the original cable and see if it will charge it to 100% without a problem? If not, then it's something wrong with a cable. Make sure nothing funny is going on with your AC wall outlet plug. I discovered that in my house I have a few that not allowing me to do fast charging due to some electric wiring limitation. Also, make sure everything is connected all the way in. Depending on the case you are using, some of these micro-usb connectors are a bit too thick to go all the way in, and although it looks like you are charging - because connector is not mated all the way in, you have a bad contact and limiting charging current. I actually BET you that's exactly what is going on. I have so many usb-to-micro-usb cables around, can't keep track of it. But I remember at my work I had to slice a piece of micro-usb connector to make it thinner to work with my Zerolemon TPU, and I believe that was monoprice cable. Definitely check it out, cause that could be a problem in your case.

Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes

VitaliyUvakin said:
Everything was the same, same 2A charger, same outlet, same phone with ZL battery . Just replaced my Samy cable with 6ft one from monoprice. Will try again tomorrow with oem cable, will see how it goes
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Trim micro usb connector. Gotta be it.

It seems to fit pretty tight, but I will definitely try it.

Ha! The Anker direct store in ebay is selling this for $55!! What is it made of gold now? LOL.

[MOD] External Charger for ZeroLemon 9300 mAh battery w/pics!!!

From day one when I got ZeroLemon 9300 mAh battery, the question of external charger for this battery was on my mind. You get a monster capacity, but it will also take at least 3x as long to charge it up and you can only do that inside of your phone. It's OK if you run out of lemon juice and put your Note 2 on a charger overnight, but otherwise you better have a spare fully charged battery. Plus, for some of us the use of ZL battery will be not daily thing. Bottom line, external charger is a must have. I have talked to ZL support and they confirmed about looking into rapid external charger, but no details about it available yet. So I figured to try something out myself.
The challenge is that ZL battery looks like a stock footprint on top of a large plate. Most of the regular single battery charges have small footprint where they could mate with battery contacts but ZL will be top-heavy pulling out of the charger. I came across this cradle charger from Tmart.com, it's about $15 and as a bonus you can charge the battery and sync your phone. Got it from here: http://www.tmart.com/Twin-USB-Cradl...for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100_p173079.html - they actually have it in their US warehouse so it arrived very fast. As a cradle it's OK, although just like any vertical cradle-stand it can accept only a slim case or Note 2 without a case. Also, for some reason with an included ac-adapter you can't charge at more than 500 mA (it was forcing it into USB charging mode). But that wasn't my main purpose.
In order to fit ZeroLemon, I had to modify this case where the back support of the cradle/stand had to be leveled off. Since I use dremel for my mods, I actually included a picture below for those who are interested. Using a cutting wheel to slice it off, and griding wheel to smooth out the rough edges. Turned out to be very functional! Because of the wide base of the charger/cradle, there is no wobbling or worrying the battery will pop out of the charger. The only drawback is that charging led light is covered by the battery, but if you look sideways you can actually see it [edit]... tried charging with a stock battery, light was staying red while battery got charged up, after awhile turned blue, so don't count on red/blue as reliable indicator, although it charges up ok... [/edit]. I took my depleted ZL (it was down to 3%) and set it on the charger overnight from midnight until 7:30am. I did use an included AC wall charger since I figured it said 1500 mA so it should charge it fast. In the morning popped the battery into the phone and to my surprise found it to be only at 32%. That would mean that wall charger was actually providing about 415 mA instead of 1500 mA. No surprise since you can never trust these labels. It could have been a typical 500 mA charger with some efficiency loss down to 415 mA of actual current. I decided to use my other "trusted" 2A wall charger. Kept it charging in the same setup from 10am till 1:50pm, popped it into the phone and battery went from 32% to 97% in under 4 hours!!! Which is approximately 1550 mA of supply from a wall charger, with some efficiency loss from original value. So if I would have used this wall charger from 3%, most likely I would have gotten to a full 100% charge in under 7 hours, maybe even 6 1/2 hours.
Pretty much charging circuit of that cradle/charge is able to handle high current input and can charge Zerolemon at relatively fast rate of 1500 mA supply. Plus, even after slicing a layer of back support of that cradle, I was still able to plug in the phone and charge/sync it (although through that micro-usb connector it was charging at USB rate, not AC).
Bottom line, it worked! Oh, and as a disclaimer I have to mention that I'm not responsible for any damage to your battery or your fingers if you decide to duplicate it Here are the pictures:
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You could smooth the top with Bondo, JB Weld, or epoxy.

I'm going to do this. Thank you!
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Noob-xda said:
I'm going to do this. Thank you!
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Just make sure you use stock 2A wall charger or any other 2A wall charger. Using the bundled one will take you forever to charge it up.

Wouldnt something like this work too?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7G3P94/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

Double0EK said:
Wouldnt something like this work too?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7G3P94/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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No, that charger is a joke even for a standard battery, toooooo slow in charging due to only 350mA supply. Also, it plugs in to the wall while you need something that will plug in to the external wall charger with usb/micro-usb. Not every charger will work. You need something similar to what I have above.

vectron said:
No, that charger is a joke even for a standard battery, toooooo slow in charging due to only 350mA supply. Also, it plugs in to the wall while you need something that will plug in to the external wall charger with usb/micro-usb. Not every charger will work. You need something similar to what I have above.
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I agree that the supply is too weak on that charger, however the form factor should work if you have an outlet on a horizontal surface. Powerstrips are often placed in this way. You just need to find one with a good 2A output.

I did this mod and it charged my zerolemon battery and it fit. purchased that same charger from the link. so far so good. I now own 2 of these zerolemon batteries, so hopefully this modded charger will keep me free from all cords.

pablo71 said:
I did this mod and it charged my zerolemon battery and it fit. purchased that same charger from the link. so far so good. I now own 2 of these zerolemon batteries, so hopefully this modded charger will keep me free from all cords.
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Does your led turns blue when it's done charging? I think I have been tweaking my charger too much with mods and fitments, cause now I feel like charger is not making a good contact with a battery. I had it on for a long time and only got up to 78% which wasn't like before. Either way, this is the only charger cradle I found so far that can fit ZL and uses external USB wall charger. I hope ZL will come through with their own fast external charger!

Wonder if my Anker charger will work. Debating in this battery, but been happy with my Hyperion 6200 so far a d fits fine in my Anker external charger. Takes about 10 hours to charge, but don't use it everyday and always have a back up Anker 3100 on back up.
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hey vectron, since you have ZL's "ear", tell them they should expand this catagory to include home /desk chargers, car chargers, and a couple of cases. Obviously, the chargers need to be a bit higher capacity, but, they should already have this stuff on the drawing board/test phase..
I was in the automotive battery/charger business for many years, and I know how successful a program like this can/should/will be!

wase4711 said:
hey vectron, since you have ZL's "ear", tell them they should expand this catagory to include home /desk chargers, car chargers, and a couple of cases. Obviously, the chargers need to be a bit higher capacity, but, they should already have this stuff on the drawing board/test phase..
I was in the automotive battery/charger business for many years, and I know how successful a program like this can/should/will be!
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I think they are well aware of the demand for all this stuff, but it seems they are focusing mainly on batteries. Heard from someone ZL will have 3x capacity S4 battery in a few weeks. So their #1 priority is a battery, and with so many new popular phones, it keeps them pretty busy.
What we need is one of those universal wall chargers that can supply 2A. If you look on ebay, they do have universal chargers where contact location could be moved to adapt to different batteries and it also expands for different battery sizes. But they all have internal converter built in and limited to 500-600mA. Someone in HK needs to realize all new phones use 1A-2A chargers.

JesseMT4G said:
Wonder if my Anker charger will work. Debating in this battery, but been happy with my Hyperion 6200 so far a d fits fine in my Anker external charger. Takes about 10 hours to charge, but don't use it everyday and always have a back up Anker 3100 on back up.
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I was able to zoom in on Amazon into Anker charger and from close up its 600 mA, so we are talking about 16 hours of charge time for ZL. This confirms your charging time of 6200 mAh / 600 mA = 10.3 hr. I do believe Anker charger will fit ZL.

vectron said:
I think they are well aware of the demand for all this stuff, but it seems they are focusing mainly on batteries. Heard from someone ZL will have 3x capacity S4 battery in a few weeks. So their #1 priority is a battery, and with so many new popular phones, it keeps them pretty busy.
What we need is one of those universal wall chargers that can supply 2A. If you look on ebay, they do have universal chargers where contact location could be moved to adapt to different batteries and it also expands for different battery sizes. But they all have internal converter built in and limited to 500-600mA. Someone in HK needs to realize all new phones use 1A-2A chargers.
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Or. perish the thought, someone in the USA!!

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I was able to zoom in on Amazon into Anker charger and from close up its 600 mA, so we are talking about 16 hours of charge time for ZL. This confirms your charging time of 6200 mAh / 600 mA = 10.3 hr. I do believe Anker charger will fit ZL.
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Wow, almost a day to charge, lol! I may have to check into something else as that actually may affect my electric bill, haha!
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