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[Q] Offline Maps

Is there any free offline maps for HTC Desire?

try Mapdroyd

Thanks for your help

It does not have turn-by-turn navigation. Is there any offline turn-by-turn navigation for Ontario, Canada.

Try Motonav. Good GPS program.

Copilot is nice, although is paid app with full functional gps navigation

try navigon

All of these are paid apps. Can't i have something free?
Nokia offers OFFLINE OVI Maps how come Andriod does not have something like that.

..alee said:
All of these are paid apps. Can't i have something free?
Nokia offers OFFLINE OVI Maps how come Andriod does not have something like that.
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There is. You can use Google Navigation. If you are not in US or UK (or whatever country that is available) you can use "Google Maps brut". You can cache your maps to use them offline.

search for NavDroyd. It costs €5 and works with OpenStreetMap.
Works pretty good.

spritable said:
There is. You can use Google Navigation. If you are not in US or UK (or whatever country that is available) you can use "Google Maps brut". You can cache your maps to use them offline.
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Afaik it only caches the ones you have loaded before, i.e. you can't use it for navigating in areas you have never been before...which is kinda the reason why you'd need navigation in the first place

..alee said:
All of these are paid apps. Can't i have something free?
Nokia offers OFFLINE OVI Maps how come Andriod does not have something like that.
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Nokia offers free offline maps because (a) they are very much playing catch up with Android these days, and (b) purchased Navteq for $8 Billion which means that the maps they are giving away are their own property.
As I understand it, Google "owns" their maps for the US, but have to license maps for most of the rest of the world. You can see this if you zoom into a US map on Google Maps - it will say the map is (c) Google. If you do this on a UK map, it will say (c) Teleatlas.
In order for Google to make navigation available legally, in territories outside the US, they have to come to an agreement with the owners of the maps, which presumably involves money changing hands. Clearly they have done this with Teleatlas as the UK now gets Navigation, whereas other regions are having to rely on Brut Maps (which is a non-Google sanctioned hack).
At the end of day, the free offline OVI maps is very much a unique selling point for Nokia, and will likely remain so until Google and/or others purchase their own map data.
Regards,
Dave

Let me clear one thing .. I am currently in Canada. So I guess, legally i am in the territory whose maps are copyrighted by Google.
Now back to the offline maps. I will check the brut maps for google. Thanks

I was under the impression that Google Nav was available in Canada!
See here.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I was under the impression that Google Nav was available in Canada!
See here.
Regards,
Dave
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no doubt its free but i have to have DATA PLAN :| .. I am looking for "Offline Free Turn by Turn Navigation System"

..alee said:
no doubt its free but i have to have DATA PLAN :| .. I am looking for "Offline Free Turn by Turn Navigation System"
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IMO you are not going to find one - at least not one of acceptable quality.
Google and Nokia have very, very different business models.
To Google, Android is just a mechanism through which they can serve up their services and thus their adverts, and so an fully offline solution just doesn't suit their business model.
Nokia on the other hand want to sell you phones, and given that they rather dropped the ball with Symbian (which is a fantastic OS, let down by a poor UI), they need to do something different to try and recapture some momentum.
Sorry, but what you are looking for just doesn't exist. The harsh reality is that if you want turn by turn navigation on Android that is both good quality and offline, you are going to have to pay for it. My suggestion would be Copilot because it is a great application, and it is very cheap for what it is.
Regards,
Dave

Today HTC announced the new service:
" HTC Sense adding pre-cached maps! No more waiting for maps when zooming or panning." So just wait. Think soon it will be available not only for announced HTC Desire Z anв Desire HD.

where is bing maps navigation?

where is bing maps navigation for wp7? it is glaringly missing

If I'm not mistaken, I keep hearing it'll be available in the January '11 release...as well as a bundle of other features...

hopefullly itll be reall turn by turn navigation and maybe copy paste will be included as well,

Gateau Noël said:
where is bing maps navigation for wp7? it is glaringly missing
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Tell me about it. It was one of the very first things that shocked the gizzard out of me when I saw it missing. I originally thought I was just overlooking it or not looking in the right place because I knew it had to be there...being that the HD2 with the previous Microsoft mobile OS had it, and that nearly every other smartphone in the world has free voice-nav of some sort. But no, it is completely absent.
On the plus side, the nav that it does have, Bing Maps, is useful.

at least they have directions working in windows phone. they could of left you with nothing at all. but yes, rumour has it that it's coming with the jan update. see how it goes? but yea, i've been using the map directions quite a bit and it works very well.

MartyLK said:
On the plus side, the nav that it does have, Bing Maps, is useful.
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Except where Bing's map data is useless... ahhhh where is Google Maps for WP7...

MartyLK said:
Tell me about it. It was one of the very first things that shocked the gizzard out of me when I saw it missing. I originally thought I was just overlooking it or not looking in the right place because I knew it had to be there...being that the HD2 with the previous Microsoft mobile OS had it, and that nearly every other smartphone in the world has free voice-nav of some sort. But no, it is completely absent.
On the plus side, the nav that it does have, Bing Maps, is useful.
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And telenav for t-mobile, I can pay for a month of it if I really need it (first 30 days free).
amb9800 said:
Except where Bing's map data is useless... ahhhh where is Google Maps for WP7...
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Have you asked google that? I doubt microsoft is going to make a google maps app, google would probably sue them...

I'm still shocked that it's not included. When they updated the Bing app for WM6 it seemed like a lot of the features (including Voice Nav) had been back-ported from WP7. Apparently that wasn't the case. It amazes me that the old Bing app has more features than WP7 does. FWIW, the old app screws up a lot and would get confused. Maybe they were planning on including it but couldn't get those kinks worked out in time for launch and didn't want to release something half-assed? A definite posibility imo.

I tried Bing Maps on my LG.
In Germany the maps are not half as good as the google maps are.
Many of the small streets are either not named or not on the map at all.
I hope there will be a cool offline navi available soon.

The Gate Keeper said:
at least they have directions working in windows phone. they could of left you with nothing at all. but yes, rumour has it that it's coming with the jan update. see how it goes? but yea, i've been using the map directions quite a bit and it works very well.
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Could you please tell me how you get directions to work on bing-maps on WP7?? I can't seem to figure it out :-S
Thanks..

KingPin_DK said:
Could you please tell me how you get directions to work on bing-maps on WP7?? I can't seem to figure it out :-S
Thanks..
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If you are expecting voice-guided directions, that won't happen. WP7 doesn't currently do voice-guided nav. But Bing maps will show you your current location and update it as you travel along. You just have to keep an eye on the screen to see where you are. If you have a passenger, let them watch the screen and be your voice-guided nav.

MartyLK said:
If you are expecting voice-guided directions, that won't happen. WP7 doesn't currently do voice-guided nav. But Bing maps will show you your current location and update it as you travel along. You just have to keep an eye on the screen to see where you are. If you have a passenger, let them watch the screen and be your voice-guided nav.
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Haha, great idea with the co-driver
But anywho...I found out, that you have to set your region- and browsersettings to "united states" to get the directions-arrow in the bing-maps. Otherwise, it doesn't show!
But thanks for fast reply

this isn't true for all cases. i still have australia set to my region and it is working fine. but yea for a lot of countries you'll need it.

MartyLK said:
If you are expecting voice-guided directions, that won't happen. WP7 doesn't currently do voice-guided nav. But Bing maps will show you your current location and update it as you travel along. You just have to keep an eye on the screen to see where you are. If you have a passenger, let them watch the screen and be your voice-guided nav.
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It might. Windows mobile and Android have turn by turn.

vHatch said:
It might. Windows mobile and Android have turn by turn.
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There's no doubt WP7 will eventually have Bing TbT voice nav like WinMo had. But not till around the end of the year at the soonest and likely not even then. And it may not be free, but who knows.
I prefer the Bing TbT voice nav to the Google version. It seems to work better,,,at least it did on my HD2 when it had a WinMo OS on it.

[Q] GPS application

Hey Guys! I was just wondering. I've been using "iGo8" on my HD2 all the time. I replaced iGo over my regular GPS. Simply loving it Now, I have it on android: It's almost as good as wm version. However, I'm thinking about Windows Phone 7 OS and particularly about switching to HD7. But what's pushing me back is a GPS software. So, is there any good GPS app for WP7 like iGo8?

at present no. the closest thing is Bing Maps which only provide general directions, not turn-by-turn navigation. there are carrier based ones which have subscription fees, but from what i've seen they're mainly in the US, and hence become useless for many others.

The Gate Keeper said:
at present no. the closest thing is Bing Maps which only provide general directions, not turn-by-turn navigation. there are carrier based ones which have subscription fees, but from what i've seen they're mainly in the US, and hence become useless for many others.
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Thanks for your respond! I see now.. it's a new OS and I guess we just have to wait for good gps apps. Anyway I've been using Android for a while and I love it, however I really like the speed of WP7 which makes it look perfect.

It is possible to use Navigon with European maps if you don't mind getting more familiar with jailbreaking and sideloading. It's all happening over in the Apps section.
It'll do as a stop-gap measure until Navigon start selling the app legitimately, or someone else introduces an app (Copilot perhaps?)

wheresmybeaver said:
It'll do as a stop-gap measure until Navigon start selling the app legitimately, or someone else introduces an app (Copilot perhaps?)
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Co-Pilot this week is still saying "no" to WP7, but won't say why. Maybe the API is too restrictive for them? I thought the Nokia partnership would change their minds but hasn't appeared to.

Here you will find how to use Navigon with North America maps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11288801&postcount=223
Read and follow the instructions carefully, and in case you need the webserver application you can get it from this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11078728&postcount=151

[Q] Any News on Navigation???

I can live without custom ringtones, bluetooth file transfer, and sideloaded apps. However turn by turn navigation is a must. I have spent 3 days trawling the net for when and if we will get a working sat nav program. Obviously Navigon Select has an option for Deutsch Telekom, as does TeleNav for T-Mob and AT&T. When will these apps appear to the buying user....nobody knows. Bing Navigation has been rumoured as a free option since WP7's release, yet there is no info beyond its release for WinMo early last year.
Anyone got any new information on SatNav for the general user, as obviously sideloading the above apps is a NoGo for NoDo!

A-to-B works for me.

Jim Coleman said:
A-to-B works for me.
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Wish it did for me, seems fine for the US, not to great in Europe

But how to build a turn by turn app if the api for the compass is not available?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

No news for any real GPS based navigation with maps loaded etc.
All those ones incl. A-to-B are based on mobile data so in a real life they are useless, whether you enter any worse coverage area or especially roaming.
And it doesn't look like it will change soon.

Compass API isn't necessary for turn-by-turn navigation, it can serve as an enhancement (and more so on paper than in real life).
Regarding Navigon, I've read somewhere that they have an exclusivity agreement with T-Mo Germany till summer. Don't know how reliable the source is, but the info sounds reasonable.

doministry said:
No news for any real GPS based navigation with maps loaded etc.
All those ones incl. A-to-B are based on mobile data so in a real life they are useless, whether you enter any worse coverage area or especially roaming.
And it doesn't look like it will change soon.
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The route is actually calculated at the start, so only the tiles don't download if you lose signal meaning you can actually carry on with the route.
Casey

have any of you tried "Outdoor Navigation"?
http://www.wpcentral.com/outdoor-navigation-now-offers-offline-maps
I personally haven't, but could be promising?

These programs are nice but as I said, they require internet connection to be really used so they can't be really considered as full navgation programs.
But XMaps are amazing BTW.

The only real one is Nacigon select from T-Mobile Deutschlad.
If you are the adventurous type the .xap is very probably *cough* out there somewhere. But don't be tempted it's illegal you know?
Tuts how to add non German maps (If you own them!) are in the Dev forum

**mod edit**​do not post warez links​

It was asked a while back on the windows phone radio podcast and they said that they are trying to improve bing in europe before releasing a bing maps. Now with the nokia deal, I think they are going to integrate bing and ovimaps and get something released. Probably be late this year at the earliest.

doministry said:
These programs are nice but as I said, they require internet connection to be really used so they can't be really considered as full navgation programs.
But XMaps are amazing BTW.
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If you're using A-to-B and you drive through a mobile deadzone, all that happens is the map data for that area doesn't load. You still see your planned route overlaid on blank grey terrain, and you still get your directions on-screen, the only thing is you can't see other side-roads etc.
It actually works sufficiently well. and the biggest benefit, of course, is that you don't need to purchase maps, nor provide oodles of storage on the phone for those maps, and the maps are always bang up-to-date as well.
It would be nice to have voiced directions and auto-recalc, but as it is, for a free app, A-to-B works pretty damn well, with or without a signal.

chingy213 said:
Enjoy =)
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Very good idea to link to a site well known for supporting piracy. Duh.

Jim Coleman said:
If you're using A-to-B and you drive through a mobile deadzone, all that happens is the map data for that area doesn't load. You still see your planned route overlaid on blank grey terrain, and you still get your directions on-screen, the only thing is you can't see other side-roads etc.
It actually works sufficiently well. and the biggest benefit, of course, is that you don't need to purchase maps, nor provide oodles of storage on the phone for those maps, and the maps are always bang up-to-date as well.
It would be nice to have voiced directions and auto-recalc, but as it is, for a free app, A-to-B works pretty damn well, with or without a signal.
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Yes as for free app and lack of possibilities on WP7 it's quite OK. Those guys do a great job.

CoPilot Live Market Discount

INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje

Thanks for the heads up. Could anyone explain the difference between Premium and the normal one?

Anyone know how this compares to navigon?
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JJEgan said:
INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje
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Thanks for the heads up. Any differences you noticed compared to "regular" version?

Save your money and buy something that's worth it. CoPilot is worst navigation system I have ever seen!

I bought the full European version for £29.99 instead of £60.
It does annoy me that the USA Version is only £2 for Standard and £6 for Premium!
Navigon is a sack of sh1t compared to this (IMHO).
Each to their own, personally I think it rocks and for the money you cannot complain!

I bought CoPilot v8 at the beginning of May, when I got my S2. It cost me just over £20.
ALK have confirmed there is no upgrade path and all they will provide existing users (along with everyone else) is this 7 day, 50% discount.
After having a quick look at what this new 'Premium' versions offers, I think I'll be saving my money and wait for v10.
A reviewer wrote:
Stick with V8. Glad this wasn’t an upgrade!! V9 seems to have forgotten what SATNAV is for. Suggested routes are ridiculous. Every route needs editing, not good when at the roadside and all you want is to get from A-B. No routing prefs Shortest, Quickest etc. Road prefs if not on neutral make things worse. No town\city location display. Often looses gps fix. Display on Wildfire has grey pixelated areas and chopped off icons. ‘Not fit for purpose’ in many areas. Needs to be fixed – quick or Refund please!
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I will be honest i have yet to use any Sat Nav as i have yet to need one .
I know where i am going and dont get lost .Its there a s a maybe just in case .
jje

Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks

Mittaa said:
Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks
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Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.

nobnut said:
Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.
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Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html

Mittaa said:
Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html
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That is a very fair review I would say.
As for the maps, that may be true, I am not sure, but I don't believe it is. I think the cost of the Copilot app includes the maps.
There are additonal 'bolt ons' available within v9.0 which cost extra. I have paid for Traffic (£9.99 per annum), I would have paid for Fuel Prices (4.99 per annum) but it is not available in the UK presently.
The best part for me is the upgraded registration process. In v8.0 it was a nightmare and if you wanted to change from one device to another, it could quite literally make your brain bleed. It is easy in v9.0.
Overall, I am very happy, I am just jealous that I do not live in the US where this is extremely cheap. The cost of maps must be less for Copilot over there I guess.

Someone told me that CoPilot do not integrate with Android Contact
This should mean that it isn't possible to invoke navigation from an Contact address ... is this a fact (or a joke)?

If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.

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If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.
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Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.

Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.

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Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.
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I know how you feel ... I'm on my way to France on a 2x1800 km trip ...
Hate all this Facebook/Twitter **** on Copilot Live Premium, and just hope the navigation part will work!
IGO8 on Windows Mobile is the best satnav I ever have used, so I'll take my old Windows Mobile phone with me in case Copilot let me down.

Mittaa said:
Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.
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Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?

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Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?
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Problems - just me?
Hello all
I'm having real problems with mine at the moment. It locks up constantly usually when a planning a route but often when navigating and sometimes it hangs the phone too.
Mine's a very standard installation, not rooted and the phone is stable otherwise.
It might just be me but if not I'd say it's a long way from being release worthy.