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EVO 4G Screen Glass

Does anyone know if the EVO has an oleo-phobic coating on the glass like the iPhone or the HTC Hero?

chazglenn3 said:
Does anyone know if the EVO has an oleo-phobic coating on the glass like the iPhone or the HTC Hero?
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I believe it is Gorilla Glass.

Nice. I see on the Corning web site that Gorilla Glass is available with the coating, so I guess the question remains...does HTC order it with the coating? Is the glass on the HTC Hero Gorilla Glass?

google it.
http://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/index.aspx

So, further searching on Google reveals that the common belief is that HTC doesn't use Gorilla Glass on any of their phones. The Motorola Droid does. So, I guess the question remains unanswered...

Somewhere on Android central someone posted a reply from HTC saying it was normal glass with a plastic coating for better touch accuracy. Same as the Incredible.

A plastic coating, eh? That sounds weird. I'll see if I can find the post...thanks! I really like the oleo-phobic coating on my iPhone 3GS. I had a screen protector on my 3G just to combat fingerprints. No need on the 3GS...any prints wipe right off on my pant leg.

Dug up the post.. It was on AndroidForums. The latest word is that it is standard glass with a flexible plastic covering.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incred...ing-gorilla-glass-htc-says-so.html#post703648

Thanks for the link, but I'm not buying it. Windows Mobile phones require a plastic layer on the outside of the glass to work correctly, but Android doesn't. Take the Hero as an example. Or the Incredible. I have a friend with one and can confirm no plastic layer. iPhone doesn't either. Well, Windows phones up to the HTC HD2 that is. It has a capacitive screen, too.

My brother has access to a Mass Spectrometer which could put an end to this once and for all.. Just have to smash a screen into powder first
Looks like if we can get a hold of some "Flouric Acid" we could test the screen as well.. Just bring a vial and put a few drops on the demo unit at the Sprint store? http://www.hoyaoptics.com/specialty_glass/flat_panel.htm

considering the Incredible is AMOLED and this isn't (and the same size as the HD2), I'd bet the EVO screen is more like the HD2 than the Incredible. I'm not sure if the HD2 uses gorilla glass, but it's still pretty damn resistant to scratches.

I've had my EVO 4g for a year now and while it is very scratch resistant, it loves fingerprints :-(
However, a good coating with RainEx (original) keeps it fairly clean and easy to clean. Needs a new application about every 2-weeks.

abassham said:
However, a good coating with RainEx (original) keeps it fairly clean and easy to clean.
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Thanks, good tip. Hadn't thought of it.

Same screen protector as Infuse???

Trying to get ahead of the game. Isn't the Infuse the same screen size and layout as the Epic Touch? If so Seidioonline.com has some great screen protectors.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm1ssnfs-2.htm

Not sure on that but I do know Skinomi has the Epic 4G Touch one for sale, mine shipped this morning.
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I'm not asking sarcastically, I'm generally curious: Why bother with screen protectors on these? They only cloud the view and the screens are so incredibly hard to scratch that I can't imagine what you'd have to do to them that a screen protector would manage to prevent. I know my Epic 4G didn't acquire a single sign of damage in its year, and that's pretty unsurprising given the Gorilla Glass that's used on it. Same should apply to the Touch.

I've got the same seidio protector on my epic. You can't even tell its there. Looks and feels exactly like the screen.
Sorry if I sound like a fanboy, but I've tried another companies invisishield?? and it totally sucked ass! Paid dearly for it too, like 30 bucks. It was nothing more than a piece of vinyl.
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I've had my original epic without a screen protector since the first day it was released and it still doesn't have a scratch on it. The salesman at the sprint store even commented on how it looked brand new when he was trying to sell me a screen protector for my new Epic touch.
With gorilla glass it's really not needed, unless you just like spending money.

I ordered the Skinomi one too.. but you guys (and others) are making me doubt its necessity. I'm just paranoid that one day it will be scratched by some sand or keys that I forgot were in the pocket.
What if you drop it on sharp pavement/asphalt in such a way that it simply slides across it, would it still not scratch the gorilla glass?

Pheno.menon said:
I ordered the Skinomi one too.. but you guys (and others) are making me doubt its necessity. I'm just paranoid that one day it will be scratched by some sand or keys that I forgot were in the pocket.
What if you drop it on sharp pavement/asphalt in such a way that it simply slides across it, would it still not scratch the gorilla glass?
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Just search YouTube for Gorilla Glass and watch the absurd and painful things they do to it without effect. RAZOR BLADES across its screen, baggies full of screws, etc.
And in your scenario you'd be far more likely to shatter the screen than scratch it, and no protector will stop that.

I agree with the no need for a screen protector on Gorilla glass. I used to sell phones on craigslist all the time and did find that some people managed to scratch iPhone screens. I'm sorry, but if I pay that much money for electronics, then I am gonna take care of them. Then again I've seen people with ragged out Mercedes and Audi's also, so go figure.

coldblooded79 said:
I agree with the no need for a screen protector on Gorilla glass. I used to sell phones on craigslist all the time and did find that some people managed to scratch iPhone screens. I'm sorry, but if I pay that much money for electronics, then I am gonna take care of them. Then again I've seen people with ragged out Mercedes and Audi's also, so go figure.
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iphones use "scratch resistant" glass also which is all gorilla glass claims to be. All it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to get micro scratches or worse on gorilla glass.

BenKranged said:
iphones use "scratch resistant" glass also which is all gorilla glass claims to be. All it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to get micro scratches or worse on gorilla glass.
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Cement will ruin the screen. Scratches galore.
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TurboFool said:
I'm not asking sarcastically, I'm generally curious: Why bother with screen protectors on these? They only cloud the view and the screens are so incredibly hard to scratch that I can't imagine what you'd have to do to them that a screen protector would manage to prevent. I know my Epic 4G didn't acquire a single sign of damage in its year, and that's pretty unsurprising given the Gorilla Glass that's used on it. Same should apply to the Touch.
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Because they don't cloud the view at all if you use the clear ones and they actually do scratch quite easily by sand and other debris. Look no further then the plethora of scratched iPhone 4s with gorilla glass and you can see it's nowhere near scratch proof.

i made this for every1 asking about screen size of infuse v epic touch

The dimensions listed are sometimes misleading on those sites; I owned a Vibrant which was techincaly a different size than international SGS yet every single accessory fit like a glove. That is obviously not the case with this device, but the dimensions are pretty close.
I opened like 4 boxes of Infuse accessories at Best Buy this morning looking for something temporary to protect my device while better options appear and aside from a few minor things, all of the cases fit the ET4G well. The Infuse is more square than our device and the headphone jack and volume rockers are a tad off (though still usable). Only major incompatibility is that mic hole is in wrong place on all the Infuse cases. I ultimately did not end up buying anything, but I am almost positive that Infuse screen protectors would be the exact right size.

All it takes is one scratch to ruin your phone experience. That's my opinion.
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So why doesn't the Galaxy Nexus have Gorilla glass again?

The predominant reasoning for this on the interwebz was because of the 'curve' of the screen. I never did understand if this was the concave curve of the screen from top to bottom or the convex curve of the screen around the edges. (you know...the one that makes dry screen protectors bubble up around the edges if they are not a few mm smaller)
HOWEVER,
This morning, Anandtech released their review of the Nokia Lumia 800. That phone has both macro and micro curves (I've held the N9 with the same glass) and that glass is Corning Gorilla glass!
I understand that Gorilla glass can be scratched with a material hard enough etc.,etc. I just want to point out, it doesn't seem to be a technological limitation that keeps Gorilla Glass from our phones.
Below is the incomplete link:
Anandtech.com/show/5266/nokia-lumia-800-review-nokias-brave-new-foray-into-wp7/6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ

And what will you do with the information about why it doesn't have gorilla glass? It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have it.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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It's funny cuz you can't scratch any phone screen ever with keys...

I managed to scratch mine within days of getting it. I'm not sure how, but it's rather frustrating. It would be nice if it remained pristine for at least a few weeks...

My GN has a hair line scratch that can be seen at an angle on a black screen. Its a bit annoying since im OCD but compared to my Epic 4G and the abuse that one went through its kinda sad.

Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.

3devious said:
I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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I did hear that Corning has a new product out called 'Lotus glass'.....but the primary feature of that product (if I remember right) was large scratch resistant touch screen surfaces like TVs etc. I think there may be some physical limitation that keeps gorilla glass from being used on devices much larger than a laptop. Lotus glass was supposed to solve that.
But you're right, I KNOW the rest of the case is going to scuff. With or without a case. Just give it six months. Unless you go the polymer skins route.
Anyways......It isn't about what you're going to do with the information now. It was just interesting that the main reason cited as behind why Gorilla glass (and search ANY forum for the clamor behind the Gnex not having it) does not appear to be true.

MisterEdF said:
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I literally LOL'ed!

A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Glass is still glass. You can make it slightly stronger, but at the end it's still glass. Treat your large touchscreen phone well and you won't have problems.

MisterEdF said:
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I've Lol'ed so hard that my wife woke up
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Why does it matter what type of hardened glass it has? Do you know for a fact that the glass they went with for the galaxy nexus scratches easier than gorilla glass, or do you just know the gorilla glass "name" so you like to utter it like a monkey?

MisterEdF said:
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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LOL m8 Loved your explanation

GinoSylum said:
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Exactly! It all comes down to the user.
You scratched up an Incredible with Gorilla Glass, and I personally have had various phones w/o Gorilla Glass and I never use cases or screen protectors and they were all in mint condition when I passed them onto someone else.
So moral of the story, focus less on what brand the glass is and more on how you protect your phone.

Yup.. When I took care of my Incredible it was always in perfect shape. Then I stopped giving a crap when the Nexus was announced and I knew I was switching. Gorilla glass or not, scratches showed up.
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Ive never used a screen protector with my INC2 and tried hard as hell to be very careful with it but some how I got a small scratch in it within 3 weeks. I'm not sure how much less or more the GN screen is but I'm trying to avoid using a screen protector on it all because I love the naked feel.

You know what happened the last time I talked up Gorilla Glass on a Droid RAZR?
The guy I was talking to took the RAZR, banged it as hard as he could on the desk corner, and cracked/powdered the screen. "Not so tough," he said.
Moral of this story is you, the user, can protect your phone far better than any manufacturer.
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Everything is about $$.
Nexus has a few extra things that probably push it's cost higher, so they are likely going with an unbranded version, in order to keep the cost down enough.
I'm sure the screen is pretty costly in itself, while the Note is same resolution and tech - it's bigger so probably easier to make.

Yesterday my phone dived face down to the concrete floor...

This is my first time real life experience with the T989 of what we normally see here (video)
Yesterday my phone dived (screen) face down first to the concrete floor, from shoulder height and bounced 4~5 times before coming to a complete stop,
stupid me taking it out of my front pocket with too much force with 2 fingers and it sling shot out accidentally
when i went to pick it up i was fearing for the worst... i was pretty sure the screen would have probably been a total loss
but the sound when it landed smack face down was a horrible and painful sound to hear
to my amazement it survived with only a few scratches
thanking the almighty gadget angel guardian looking after our phones

Isn't it your phone took a dive before?
Someone up there did look over your phone.

I was going to ask this in a new thread, but this seems like a good place: I've been searching a bit, and can't find conclusive evidence one way or the other: does the TMO version of the SG2 have gorilla glass or not?
And congrats on surviving the fall! That's encouraging either way! No screen protector?

joking said:
Isn't it your phone took a dive before?
Someone up there did look over your phone.
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the previous dive was into a puddle of water, and it was only from knee height, the water itself would have acted as a cushion, that time i was more concerned about it getting wet & short circuited than cracking the screen.
reference of the previous catastrophe for those just joining our conversation http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392609&highlight=dive

sunsean said:
I was going to ask this in a new thread, but this seems like a good place: I've been searching a bit, and can't find conclusive evidence one way or the other: does the TMO version of the SG2 have gorilla glass or not?
And congrats on surviving the fall! That's encouraging either way! No screen protector?
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it did have a cheezy $2 ebay screen protector, those only protect from scratches not from a drop of that magnitude
as i do recall Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2 line of phones uses Corning Gorilla glass
only the Nexus line does not use that
some one had the article listed a while back, don't recall the tittle but i'm sure you can find it if you dig long enough in the forum, or just google SGS2 + Gorilla glass

So you tested water and concrete, what next? Fire? lol

sunsean said:
I was going to ask this in a new thread, but this seems like a good place: I've been searching a bit, and can't find conclusive evidence one way or the other: does the TMO version of the SG2 have gorilla glass or not?
And congrats on surviving the fall! That's encouraging either way! No screen protector?
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Yes it has Gorilla glass. Still best to add a screen protector for extra piece of mind though. I know some people are anti screen protector but its so cheap now.

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So you tested water and concrete, what next? Fire? lol
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LMAO! hope not , let's lot jinx it

I didnt have a screen protector for first week, and it got scratched a lil -.- i had it in my pocket alone with nothing with it!

Gorilla glass might be resilient
but they are not really anti scratch
they are just harder to crack, but by no means invincible
even if you applied the Zagg indestructible screen protector
it will prevent the screen from shattering to pieces, but it will still crack if the hit is hard enough

Thanks - the reason I ask is because while the SG2 int'l version and att/sprint versions have Gorilla Glass, there was a lot of confusion as to whether the TMO version does as well. I found some discussion on it, but no conclusive answer. And TMO doesn't say it on the site (I don't think) and it doesn't say it in the paperwork with the phone...but I believe you

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from what i understand they replace the smaller sodium ions with potassium in glass, what this does is that the potassium takes up more space and it produces a compressive stress on the glass, so there are less "imperfections" and therefore making it more scratch resistant/harder to crack
what's amazing to me is that peopel are saying their iphone is made of gorilla glass..yet their smaller form factor phone cracks a lot more easily than ours(and aluminium has nothing to do with this, aluminium is fairly soft itself..

AllGamer said:
Gorilla glass might be resilient
but they are not really anti scratch
they are just harder to crack, but by no means invincible
even if you applied the Zagg indestructible screen protector
it will prevent the screen from shattering to pieces, but it will still crack if the hit is hard enough
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My other smartphone with no gorilla glass has no scratches and i basically play soccer with it lol (Optimus V)
by playing soccer i mean i shoot it like soccer (football)
I doubt it has gorilla glass, i never actually tried gorilla glass but my older iphone never got scratched on the screen even tho i have alot of metals in my pocket. This one scratched when i had it alone in my jeans pocket -.-

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So you tested water and concrete, what next? Fire? lol
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Haha.
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LMAO! hope not , let's lot jinx it
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That's one resilient phone you have AllGamer. And ya, next time is 3rd strike...how many more times can that phone possibly cheat death.

heck even diamonds will shatter if you hit em right, or rather, wrong.

That video was painful to watch. Do you have a case for it? First thing I have done for both of my phones is buy gel cases. Honestly I love the original feel but I can't stand that fear of what you went through. Lol
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jonathan3579 said:
That video was painful to watch. Do you have a case for it? First thing I have done for both of my phones is buy gel cases. Honestly I love the original feel but I can't stand that fear of what you went through. Lol
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Ditto. I was gonna leave my phone naked but the fear of this happening to mine made me get over of the d3o cases. I'm still debating on whether or not I should get a screen protector. I really like the coefficient of friction on the glass and I knew that by applying a protector that would go away specially with the zagg invisishield which almost feels rubbery
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iLeopard said:
Ditto. I was gonna leave my phone naked but the fear of this happening to mine made me get over of the d3o cases. I'm still debating on whether or not I should get a screen protector. I really like the coefficient of friction on the glass and I knew that by applying a protector that would go away specially with the zagg invisishield which almost feels rubbery
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I plan on keeping both the Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus bare screen. I have heard too much negativity regarding screen protectors. Does the Galaxy S2 have an oleophobic screen coating too? I can't pick out a major difference in feel.
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Husam2011 said:
My other smartphone with no gorilla glass has no scratches and i basically play soccer with it lol (Optimus V)
by playing soccer i mean i shoot it like soccer (football)
I doubt it has gorilla glass, i never actually tried gorilla glass but my older iphone never got scratched on the screen even tho i have alot of metals in my pocket. This one scratched when i had it alone in my jeans pocket -.-
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Yes it has gorilla glass! Info found here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t_mobile-4129.php
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[Q] Gorilla Glass 2

Use HTC on ONE V a new Gorilla Glass 2?

This is reply to my question from HTC: "Unfortunately, the One V does not have Gorilla glass".

Yes its using gorilla glass2
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xzr3b0rnzx said:
Yes its using gorilla glass2
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Source?

Yeahh I'm pretty sure it has gorilla glass (coming from a one v user)
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It has gorilla glass, but I don't know It's 1 or 2!? No info about that.

HTS writes that HTC One V has not Gorilla Glass.

CafeKampuchia said:
Source?
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I got the answer directly from the Product Marketing for HTC Southeast Asia, Wayne tang.
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Hhm some site says it use gorilla glass 2 others says its just a typical screen wothout gorilla glass.. confused!
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i hope it has. does gorilla glass cannot break when fall??

chrone said:
i hope it has. does gorilla glass cannot break when fall??
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Even my HTC Hero has a gorilla glass. SO yeah, One V has a "CORNING GORILLA GLASS" . and it will not break at falling. even if it falls on concrete!

chrone said:
i hope it has. does gorilla glass cannot break when fall??
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Idk as well. but I dropped my phone from 1 meter of height yesterday. its just works fine...

yikes, glad it's still working.

I think HTC One V has Gorilla display 1 not 2.

My phone fell from the table yesterday face down and the top glass covering instantly cracked. I doubt if One V even has gorilla glass. Before it cracked, it had taken many small scratches too, even though i kept it inside a cover always.
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sparxone said:
My phone fell from the table yesterday face down and the top glass covering instantly cracked. I doubt if One V even has gorilla glass. Before it cracked, it had taken many small scratches too, even though i kept it inside a cover always.
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my phone didn't fell face down. maybe that's why it does't have crack. maybe you should try to return to your seller. If you lucky, they can give you a brand new phone or refund.

I called up HTC customer care, they told it won't be covered under warranty. I need to pay for the whole Super LCD 2 unit. Even though just the top glass is cracked.
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sparxone said:
My phone fell from the table yesterday face down and the top glass covering instantly cracked. I doubt if One V even has gorilla glass. Before it cracked, it had taken many small scratches too, even though i kept it inside a cover always.
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fell on what? a warhammer? please...

No dude fell on the ****ing floor
So i would say it doesn't have a gorilla glass. Specs on the box and its site doesn't state a gorilla glass either. The glass layer is something which makes viewing angles better as far as i know, not a gorilla indeed. I was shocked to see scratches even when i kept it in a cloth cover all the time. And now a fall from 2 feet face down cracked it completely.
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Gorilla glass is not that strong. I'm not surprised it cracked when falling face down.
My friend has a Motorola Defy like me (you know, that "lifeproof" phone with gorilla glass), and she dropped it about a metre onto concrete, at a 45 degree angle. Whole glass panel was completely shattered.
On the flip side, I have dropped my Defy a bunch of times (including a few times where I have accidentally launched it forward a few metres) and it has been fine, but the initial impact has always been on the back. I think all phones will shatter when they hit the ground screen first.
Gorilla glass prevents abrasion and scratches from keys or coins etc in your pocket, but not falling a metre or two onto concrete or tiles.