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Bricked Universal?

My bootloader was 0.x so I tried to upgrade to 1.0 and now I think it might be bricked.
I've read LOTS of posts here, but it won't hard reset or go into bootloader. The screen shows nothing, no matter what I do. The battery is good though as it works in my friends Uni. If I plug into my PC I get 'device not recognised' error.
Anybody got any ideas at all, ie flash from SD? Is this possible. I'll try anything!
Thanks in advance.

MTTY
Find a copy of MTTY, as notes on attached txt file, and follow brief notes.
Its a way of issuing commands direct to the PDA.
If its bricked you dont have much to loose :-(
Mike

yes it's work!
bigyellowdog said:
My bootloader was 0.x so I tried to upgrade to 1.0 and now I think it might be bricked.
I've read LOTS of posts here, but it won't hard reset or go into bootloader. The screen shows nothing, no matter what I do. The battery is good though as it works in my friends Uni. If I plug into my PC I get 'device not recognised' error.
Anybody got any ideas at all, ie flash from SD? Is this possible. I'll try anything!
Thanks in advance.
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!!!sorry for my english!!!
your must click light key + power key + reset
then your divice ready to change your rom with out use the actve sync

mikechad said:
Find a copy of MTTY, as notes on attached txt file, and follow brief notes.
Its a way of issuing commands direct to the PDA.
If its bricked you dont have much to loose :-(
Mike
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Thanks Mike. But the problem is that it just won't go into bootloader. I've tried MTTY before and no luck. It just doesn't see any device connected to my PC.

djmfxp said:
!!!sorry for my english!!!
your must click light key + power key + reset
then your divice ready to change your rom with out use the actve sync
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Thanks for the suggestion but as said before it just won't go into bootloader. Appreciate any other ideas?

Big Yella - what does the phone do? Anything at all?
If it's trully fecked, you'll have to get a gold card or jtag interface. But is there any life in it at all? Do the lights come on when charging?
V

Vijay - the only sign of life is when I push the reset hole and the light flashes red. Also when the battery runs out completely and I plug in the charger the light stays red for about 2 or 3 minutes and then goes out.
Apart from that, nothing. The screen doesn't react to soft/hard reset or trying to put it into bootloader. But it was a perfectly working Uni until I tried to upgrade the bootloader from 0.x to 1.x.
Do you think I deleted the bootloader?
Thanks.

If it's not the battery, I think the bootloader it messed up and bricked...sorry

Sounds like the battery is completely dead to me.
Mine did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago but all I needed was a new battery. Had me very worried for a while too though.
I haven't still got my old knackered battery to check, but I would guess that you should be able to get the bootloader up while the device is connected to the charger (and the LED is on, and red)? Not sure if that will work if the battery is totally screwed, but if it does, then it would at least prove that the bootloader is still "there"...
EDIT: Just noticed that you say the battery works in another Uni - I'm flummoxed then! There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there - 'cause your device really is displaying exactly the same behaviour that mine did when the battery didn't work...

sub69 said:
Sounds like the battery is completely dead to me.
Mine did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago but all I needed was a new battery. Had me very worried for a while too though.
I haven't still got my old knackered battery to check, but I would guess that you should be able to get the bootloader up while the device is connected to the charger (and the LED is on, and red)? Not sure if that will work if the battery is totally screwed, but if it does, then it would at least prove that the bootloader is still "there"...
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Cheers Sub, but no the battery is ok. It works in my friends Uni and his battery doesn't work in mine.

Edited my post above just too late to catch you! As I said though...
There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there?

sub69 said:
Edited my post above just too late to catch you! As I said though...
There's nothing wrong with the actual battery contacts/connections in your Universal is there?
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Hmmm. The contacts/connections looks ok. Do yo think its worth taking a screwdriver to it and looking further inside? (I'm more than happy to do that, its way out of warranty)

If this happened just right after the bootloader flashing, I don't think opening it up would help. I really think the bootloader is messed up.

Unfortunately I guess clemsyn is probably right. Shame though cause I was hoping it was just a power problem, which showed the same symptoms in my case.

Phone is on... White blank screen ??

Please help.....
I installed Schaps 3.6a Rom on HTC8525 (TyTn), been working for a week... Today I got a white screen... No icons.... I did a soft boot and hard boot and also removed the battery... when turned on just a white screen shows..
Any ideas?

Ah thought the screen of death was gone but i guess its back. by chance what version of hard SPL do you have if you have anything lower than SPLv7 upgrade as some thought this to be the case some thought that roms that had been ran through Taz's tools to cause this issue,.

austinsnyc said:
Ah thought the screen of death was gone but i guess its back. by chance what version of hard SPL do you have if you have anything lower than SPLv7 upgrade as some thought this to be the case some thought that roms that had been ran through Taz's tools to cause this issue,.
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Thank you for your response. Please forgive my ignorance... I tried to locate the SPLv version on my HTC8525 but failed. i would not know where to look except to try to hard boot by pressing the two side buttons and getting the multi color screen. Is there a fix that you know of for the white screen? Do you recommend I change ROM and downgrade radio?
Again... Thank you for your help.

This white screen syndrome is intermittent and the phone goes back to normal after 45 minutes or if an incoming call is received... Strange... still I have not figured it out... Please help if you can...

white screen non stop

hello to all,
I've searched many white screen problem threads, but didn't find any similar.
i am sorry if I missed one.
I am asking you for help.
I have spv m3100(hermes 100)
I bought it used and it had instaled htc europe wm6 rom. after few days I decided to flash black x rc.
before i did this, I made super cid with RUU_HERM_Unlock_v3a.exe and than also flash hard spl v7. everything was fine until few days ago when butons stop working. and at the end the green led was blinking all the time and green and red phone light was on all the time as well (also if phone was in flight mode).
I decided to flash official rom and I checked my bootloader it was showing ipl 1.04 and hard spl 2.10.
I flashed WWE 3.54.255.3 with radio 1.48.00.10 and everything went just fine at the end was written congratulation....
it costumized and make one or two soft reset and than I start to instal my favorite programs (few spb, smartmovie, dictionary...).
I do not remember why but after I set regional settings I did not soft reset with stylus but I put out battery when phone was stil on.
after that screen is white all the time. I made many soft resets, hard resets, try to enter bootloader but screen is all the time white.
when i turn it on and it is white I connect it to computer and it connects normal and i can also explore my files, but screen is all the time white.
I left it more than 20min without battery and try again but is stil the same.
after that I keep battery out of phone and leave it sop over the night. in the morning was stil the same.
i do not know what to do.
please help.
thank you and best regards
miha

since you mention a problem with the buttons, it *could* be hardware related. There is a thread up here where those problems (connections usually) are explained.

would you be so kind and tell me which thread you meant.
it seemed nothing wrong is with my phone only colors are missing (everything is white). i think also touchscreen is working. if I turn it off with power button (holding for few seconds), it beeps and you get message if you realy want to turn it off. because I know exactly where yes button is, the phone goes off.
I apreciate every help I can get.
thanks

I had a white screen issue .. do this in this specific order
1) make sure you have olipro latest version (use the search)
if problem persists
2) Use an WM5 rom and see if the white screen is happening
if problem perisists
3) Replace the battery (cheapest option)
if problem perisists
4) Its a hardware fault and you will have to send it off to get fixed or replace the unit .. sorry

alive again
I solved the problem.
thanks to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1698828#post1698828
and this instructions http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html.
thanks to people who answer my problem

Medon
I have the same problem, the link to the blog below takes you to How to disassemble your device.... could you find the correct link & repost pretty please?
Thanks,
Andy

Oops..

i posted the begining of my problem somewhere on monday but cant remember where. so.....
on monday, the screen on my tmobile dash messed up, now the top half of the screen has white horizontal lines covering it.
well, i called tmobile and the phone was still under warrenty, so got a like new phone sent and it arived today. I went about unlocking it and upgrading to wm6.1 like i had on my last phone. started out with all sorts of problems sycning and i had to reinstall active sync and that seemed to fix it. continued installing the upgrade, the dos program runs i press the center button and i get the red blue green screen and i know from before that that normally means it isn't working, so i reboot the phone, re sync, and re do it and get the red green blue screen again and the update program says it can recover and it leads me through a four step process, upplug, pull bat, reboot and do it again, only it reboots into the red green blue screen, wouldnt sync and when i turned it off, i couldnt get it to power back up. no response from the phone at all. pulled battery many times and all.
What are my options? I know that i agreed to the statment and i have no one to blame but my self. is there anything i can do? i have 7 days to return the half working phone, and i have a feeling that because its unlocked and has wm6.1 on it that tmobile is going to charge me what ever it will be. I have 200.00 in credit with um, and i feel that those fees will take away from that, leave me with an un usable phone, and no money to do anything about it !
a brainstorm, could i just tell tmobile that i got the phone that way? or would they see through my lies?
please please please please help!!!
and thanks a ton in advance.
Nick

NJDubois said:
i posted the begining of my problem somewhere on monday but cant remember where. so.....
on monday, the screen on my tmobile dash messed up, now the top half of the screen has white horizontal lines covering it.
well, i called tmobile and the phone was still under warrenty, so got a like new phone sent and it arived today. I went about unlocking it and upgrading to wm6.1 like i had on my last phone. started out with all sorts of problems sycning and i had to reinstall active sync and that seemed to fix it. continued installing the upgrade, the dos program runs i press the center button and i get the red blue green screen and i know from before that that normally means it isn't working, so i reboot the phone, re sync, and re do it and get the red green blue screen again and the update program says it can recover and it leads me through a four step process, upplug, pull bat, reboot and do it again, only it reboots into the red green blue screen, wouldnt sync and when i turned it off, i couldnt get it to power back up. no response from the phone at all. pulled battery many times and all.
What are my options? I know that i agreed to the statment and i have no one to blame but my self. is there anything i can do? i have 7 days to return the half working phone, and i have a feeling that because its unlocked and has wm6.1 on it that tmobile is going to charge me what ever it will be. I have 200.00 in credit with um, and i feel that those fees will take away from that, leave me with an un usable phone, and no money to do anything about it !
a brainstorm, could i just tell tmobile that i got the phone that way? or would they see through my lies?
please please please please help!!!
and thanks a ton in advance.
Nick
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Okay do this, make sure the phone is off and hold the camera button down for about 5 seconds... this button is located to the right of the keyboard. While still holding it down plug in the phone to the usb and now you should see a tri-colored screen come up. Now you can load the original rom the phone came with... The official roms could be found in the link below... called "official roms" and just download the t-mobile rom... and now you can flash your phone with the original rom...

stonersayswhat?

gixxum said:
stonersayswhat?
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quis-ego....

anyone seen the other half of my thought from the other night? anyone?

Ok, I had found a forum post saying to hold down the SYM button, but couldn't get it working untill I read your reply. Much thanks, the phone is on, and giving me the red green blue screen. I hear the windows alert saying a USB device is plugged in, but active sync wont pick it up. So I'll post about it here, and while I dig through the internet trying to find my cure, I will hope that someone will know what my next step is.
Much much thanks jdoggraz! At least now I know my phone isn't completely dead!
Nick

jdoggraz already told you what to do. YUou do not have to wait for active sync to pick the phone. Just run the exe for the orginal rom.

I have tried to do a hard reset.
Hold the 2 softkeys down(the "-" on each end) for a few seconds, hot the power button down for 2 seconds and then hold the 2 softkeys down and wiat, but nothing happens. Donno why, but may be not being able to hard reset is a clue to whats wrong.
[EDIT]
I have found something about a program called Mtty.exe, and also a UNI_ExitBootLoader But I get a "un able to connect to usb" error with both programs when I try to connect. But, once again, every time I plug the phone into the computer I hear the alert saying a usb device has been attached??
[Another Edit]
I just noticed in Device Manager, under Window CE USB Devices, that my Smartphone USB Sycn Has that nasty Yellow explanation mark next to it.
This device cannot start. (Code 10)
Click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter for this device.
?

NJDubois said:
I have tried to do a hard reset.
Hold the 2 softkeys down(the "-" on each end) for a few seconds, hot the power button down for 2 seconds and then hold the 2 softkeys down and wiat, but nothing happens. Donno why, but may be not being able to hard reset is a clue to whats wrong.
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why are you resetting it? you were at the bootloader screen in your last post...right where you needed to be. now you are 2 steps back?

Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't getting a refreshed look at the forum post, and I didn't see any other posts. I went back to what I was told to do in the first place.
I first tried
1.33.422.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
1.27.405.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
With both I get:
ERROR [224] : INVALID MODEL ID
This update utility cannot be used for your smartphone. Please check your Update Utility.
And in the lower right there is a string of characters that is different every time.
What am I doing wrong? I'm so frustrated. I followed your instructions =(
[EDIT] OMG I am an idiot, ignore this post. If I wasn't so beat I might have scrolled down and noticed the tmobile DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NJDubois said:
Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't getting a refreshed look at the forum post, and I didn't see any other posts. I went back to what I was told to do in the first place.
I first tried
1.33.422.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
1.27.405.1 (Worldwide English, WM6)
With both I get:
ERROR [224] : INVALID MODEL ID
This update utility cannot be used for your smartphone. Please check your Update Utility.
And in the lower right there is a string of characters that is different every time.
What am I doing wrong? I'm so frustrated. I followed your instructions =(
[EDIT] OMG I am an idiot, ignore this post. If I wasn't so beat I might have scrolled down and noticed the tmobile DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pass the hookah brother..i wanna hang out in your world

puff, puff, give... man!....you're [email protected]#ing up the rotation!

An update.
I have gotten wm5 installed and working on my phone. I can't for the life of me get the 6.1 update to work. I get the agreement, press the center button and it goes back to the OS, the phone then locks up, and I have to restart it to re sycn.
This is very time consuming! The phone takes for ever to start. I also want to note that I upgraded my last dash with little problems, but this dash has been nothing but a head ache. WHY?!?!? I am not looking forward to being stuck with this phone.
Thanks everyone, for all the help. I went a little off course last night, I was falling asleep trying to get this thing working.
puff puff pass
nick
[EDIT] Why wont the screen go almost white after i click the middle button?!?!?!?!?

It works, YAY!!
Thank you soooo freaking much, everyone!

NJDubois said:
It works, YAY!!
Thank you soooo freaking much, everyone!
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No problem, so what exactly did you end up doing?

damn! it's "cashed"!

pudgedaddy said:
damn! it's "cashed"!
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hahaha

Strange Brick

Hey Guys..
I have a Desire here in my Hands with a strange type of Brick.. (at least one I've never seen before) ..
It just does not react to anything at all. The battery is charged and I tested with another cell to be sure that is not the trivial cause.
No Bootloader, No HTC Logo, No reactions at all..
Did happen while flashing a Froyo 2.2 Rom + Radio + App2SD (from the xda forums) via ClockworkMod Recovery but I wasn't there to witness the actual Flash.
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
Then battery removed -> Brick.
Anyone got any Idea?

messywrk said:
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
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I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
Regards,
Dave

If you can access fastboot as opposed to bootloader you might be talking failing that back to HTC it goes

if your phone can not turn off whilst holding either volume down or the back button then yeah it's a brick, send it off to htc, just say it overheated and wont turn on again

foxmeister said:
I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
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The battery was removed after flashing and rebooting.
Installed in the following order:
32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04.zip
LeeDrOiD_V1.2b.zip
942_desire_froyo_a2sd-signed.zip
every process seemed to work normal, no error happened.
Then rebooted the Desire and the "Box with Android-Bot" Screen appeared.. this hung for 30 min or more when I could not think of any other solution than removing the battery to reset..
After this -> nothing.
I suppose as you say it has to do something with the Radio ROM..
Been coming from OpenDesire 1.6b - every flash ran perfectly up to this point.
Damn, I think this one has to go back to HTC.
Is there any possibility to unbrick a phone thats not responding at all?
Could HTC be aware of the modifications or will they really just go with the "overheated and won't turn on again" explanation?
Thanks for your help so far guys!

Yea, the little Droid with the box thing is during a radio flash and you should never pull the battery during that as it does result in a brick.
Can you reach fastboot as mentioned up above?

..tried pressing the "back" button with the power button and the vol-down button together with the power button..
even did the "insert the battery while holding the button" method..
I don't think I can get the thing to Fastboot..
But I will look further into this and try..
..
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?

messywrk said:
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?
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I know someone who sent their phone back with a pretty much identical issue and the phone was fixed under warranty no problem.
Regards,
Dave

yay!
you know, even one post of you telling me it went allright for another guy is a big relief..
EDIT: just wanted to let you know I tried invoking fastboot via usb and the android PC tools..
just keeps waiting for the device.. and waiting ..
..will analyse USB traffic in general to conclude if there is a little itsy bit of life left in the phone, but I think this is a dead end too.

thank u all for ur help i have managed to unlock the phone as described
thanks alot every1

saifiraq: You seem to have stumbled in the wrong thread or could we help by coincidence?
..UPDATE:
Did usb-sniffer analysis while pulling battery, trying to turn on, plugging usb in etc.
NOTHING at all..
My baby is on it's way to HTC now.. wish me luck guys!