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Thanx to blackprince310 that posted a tutorial video on youtube on how to perm root your g2..so now there's a video for all of us.. Subscribe to his youtube channel.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU9zn_BEth4
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I spent a whole day learning ADB before I felt comfortable enough to go through and root my G2 lol. Wish I had seen this vid would have been a great help but I can send it to my friends who haven't taken the plunge yet.
Thanks for the heads up.
Xionas said:
I spent a whole day learning ADB before I felt comfortable enough to go through and root my G2 lol. Wish I had seen this vid would have been a great help but I can send it to my friends who haven't taken the plunge yet.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Dude that was time well spent.
ADB is essential to android all together, there may be one click root options and other quick fix packages but if your seriouse with android you need to know ADB.
+1 for adb knowledge.
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Yeah adb is very usefull. Spending time to learn the commands will help you greatly in the future and also save you a lot of time.
[G2/HTC Vision]
aad4321 said:
Thank you for the video, i followed it what i thought was exactly. everything seemed to work fine, rebooted into recovery, it did say s-off but ever app i open says that the phones not rooted. any ideas?
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aparently this is happening to several people. hope its an easy fix...
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YAY I FIXED IT. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID.
1. reboot
2. Open and run visionary (with set system r/w after root) checked.
3. After root is complete, click root again (should say already rooted)
4. Open Terminal and sype "su" then enter
5. Type "sync" and wait about a min
6. POWER OFF THE PHONE the right way by holding down the power.
7. After reboot it should work! YAY!!
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I fixed it as well but I did differently.. maybe it will help those still having trouble.. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID.
1) The first problem I had was I had Visionary 11 AND 12 (+plus) installed and both were set to root on boot. This was just a left over quirk from after doing the perm root since I just assumed it had to be set to root on boot, and after installing Vis12 I forgot to uninstall Vis11. Apparently Vis12 doesn't overwrite Vis11 so having both apps root on boot was a bad thing.
2) So I deleted both visionary apps (When they tried to root on boot I backed out of them and just uninstalled them)
3) Then I rebooted and was still not permrooted (although S was off)!
4) Sooo I reinstalled Visionary 12(+Plus)... and checked root on boot AND the r/w partition setting. Then rebooted..
5) With the lone visionary now installed and working solo it rebooted and ran on root and I was rooted..
So now i"m like, ok.. it rooted with visionary, but I don't want visionary in order to root...
6) So I uninstalled visionary 12 (for the second time) and rebooted and now the root stuck.
I think that visionary 12 needs to run after the first reboot with those two settings checked... run on boot and the partition setting. After that happens once I think it makes the root stick.. or at least it did for me.
I had same issue with S-off but no root. I did the manual method and got S-off but root never stuck. I tried the manual method again and again but when I rebooted the apps would say root access could not be gained. What ended up working was I went into Visionary 12 and pushed the temp root button. Once I had temp root I then pushed the perm root button. It did it's thing and rebooted. Once it rebooted I had root that stuck. Don't know if this will help anyone having this issue but it was the only thing that worked for me. As a side note, it was like seeing an old childhood friend when I flashed Cyanogens bacon bits.
How are you guys downloading visionary, now that its been pulled from the market?
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How are you guys downloading visionary, now that its been pulled from the market?
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Download here.
visonary r13 is here. [post #133]
apollostees said:
Dude that was time well spent.
ADB is essential to android all together, there may be one click root options and other quick fix packages but if your seriouse with android you need to know ADB.
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Yea gotta say I don't regret a single minute of searching reading and learning. I just wish I could have had the root and THEN learned how to use ADB simply because I'm an impatient chump at times. Learning how to use it seemed to open up my eyes to things though now I have a better grasp on everything I found confusing when I first came back to browsing the Android forums.
thanks this video was great worked perfect
shibby80 said:
thanks this video was great worked perfect
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shibby, what version of visionary are you using? i cant download r11.
I downloaded r13..followed the video did exactly what he said..it did not work but I simply went back into visionary temp rooted my phone than I pressed perm root and it worked..r13 gives you diffr choices..it has a button for temp or perm rooting..now to download bacon bits and overclock
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shibby, what version of visionary are you using? i cant download r11.
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i used r11 i believe you have to download on your pc then transfer to your phone it wouldn't work when i downloaded it with the phone
Thanks.
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Thanks.
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i sent you a pm
I am just curious: if I do this perm root with S-OFF, but keep the stock ROM for the time being, will that prevent potential future OTA's from T-Mobile, potential upgrades to next versions of Android?
Now, I understand that all those "updates" will also be available via these forums but I'm just a tad concerned that all the custom ROM's might have bugs that would prevent everyday features...
I appreciate stuff like overclocking and tethering/hotspot hacks, but I'm more of a "set it and forget it" kinda guy - most likely I won't have time to constantly test new ROM's and report bugs, wait for fixes, etc.
Just wondering if you have any suggestions?
P.S. Although I am not VERY technical with Android I was able to follow instructions around here to reflash stock ROM, but I was in the "emergency" mode - it was "do it or die" situation made me pretty nervous and I hope not to have to do that constantly
I did everything in the video...and I have s-off and the superuser app every reboot...but root won't stick....and yeah..I've tried temp and perm root with visionary r12 and 13....should I start all over again?
Get r13...it gives you an option to temp root or perm root..click on temp root first than click on perm root..let see if that works
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android602 said:
Get r13...it gives you an option to temp root or perm root..click on temp root first than click on perm root..let see if that works
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i've tried that with all versions ..even with r14 which was just released...i dont wanna flash clockworld recovery because thats making some phones stuck at the htc screen
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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awallz6 said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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the only thing that has "gone wrong" with permarooting for me is that when I completely power down my phone and plug it into the charger the phone will just automatically boot into recovery every time. Other then that permarooting is the way to go and don't have one complaint other then the booting into recovery while charging thing
People should stop complaining when something wrong happens with the visionary method. The rage method is much more reliable... Worked the first time for me, and honestly it's less complicated.
I think paul wishes he never added a perm root option. If you have any doubts use the rage method it only about 4 lines of code...
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This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
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Easiest perm root method yet
Mod Edit: See comment below. Links removed. ~TheRomMistress
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This isn't spam, its a scam, MOD's already removed this link several times before.
Here's a link to a previous thread on the same site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856451&highlight=g2root
and I know of one other thread that was locked by MOD's
EDIT: For noobs this post is not referring to the video links in the post above, those video links work perfectly for rooting your phone. This post was referring to a link that someone had posted on this thread and that the forum mod "TheRomMistress" removed for malice links.
Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1
I too rooted through the videos off of theunlockr.com and achieved a permroot successfully. I'm not sure if others are not following directions well, or if the app is screwing up on its own, but more than a few people have semi bricked to fully bricked their phones using visionary r14. With that being said I'm greatfully appreciative of what that program did for me.
IMHO, I would take a few days to read through other posts and set up adb and root using the rage method, as for there is no way in hell you can screw it up copy and pasting the codes.
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I used VISIONary the first time (followed instructions perfectly) and it messed my phone up - still booted and everything, but couldn't get permroot no matter what I tried. Finally took it back to the store (was within my 14-days) and told them it was randomly rebooting, so they swapped it out. Came home and did the Rage method in about 10 minutes and it worked perfectly - rocking the Virtuous ROM ever since.
I appreciate your responses. I didn't have any luck with rage (tried it several times first). Then I tried the unlocker guide. Then, I stumbled upon this guide:
http://androidforums.com/desire-z-a...locking-your-bell-desire-z-newb-friendly.html
I don't know if it has anything to do with the Bell branding, but it worked the first time I tried it. Anyone struggling might give it a look.
jonny_ringo_wvu said:
Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1
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If you don't use the correct wpthis module for the kernel running on your phone, then it won't work as you've found. You're right that that is the "wrong" error message. It is "safe" to proceed but it has failed to unlock the NAND write protection, so your changes won't be permanent (i.e. you will have lost root again after a reboot).
I recommend using the gfree method to root/S-OFF, as per the Wiki, which means you don't have to choose the "correct" kernel module because it does that for you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
So I finally got my G2/Vision, I want to perm-root my G2. But I fail so much, I can't even put Visionary into my G2.... I downloaded Astro, but I need to place Visionary r14 in my SD, but I can't find a place to put it.
When I look in my SD through windows, it shows me a LOST.DIR, .Trashes, .Spotlight-V100, .fseventsd, .android_secure, Android, etc. etc. But I still can't find the spot to place Visionary, Help?
place it in that folder
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place it in that folder
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Haha, I figured I'd just dl it off the internet through my G2. It worked. Configured it.
Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
ddgarcia05 said:
Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
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Whats the difference? And... What happens if I already used Visionary?
If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
Ohhhh, Ok. Yeah I couldn't get Visionary to work until several tries. Took me a while. I was supprised I hadn't bricked my phone already. But now I'm pretty satisfied with CM 6.1 w/ MattedBlues theme. Sucks though I couldn't get it to work with Virtuous. I really like Sense alot more than the stock Rom (I consider CM 6 to be pretty stock)
Hope this helps!!!
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If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
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+1 on the reliable and +1 on the scary!!!!
I am very new to Android,...I've only had my G2 for about 2 months...I ran Visionary temp root without issues (r10). When I tried to install in r14 to perm root, I encountered a myriad of errors, and decided not to root.
But I just couldn't give up on it....two weeks ago I got food poisoning, which rendered me useless and home bound, I decided to attempt it. I decided to use the rage method, but found that the instructions assumes that you know something about rooting. There are alot of people on this forum that are willing to help (steviewevie was one of them) to get you your through what ever hurdle you encounter.
Personally I found the rooting process very rewarding as I now have less of a vague idea of what is happening in my phone (ie not as lost as before).
Some of the basics:
- Install adb on your pc (not that scary), and read a bot on it...understand what some of the basic commands are trying to do. (see the rooting guide for those commands)
- set your path on your PC to point to the correct directory from where you are pushing (There are a few forums here that will guide you setup by step on how to do this)
-Follow the instructions to the T, and you should be ok.
Click here to go to the thread that these guys helped me while I going through the process. Post #4 makes reference to the path on your pc.
NOTE:This Path should point to the location where you have your adb tools and location of the files you are trying to push to your phone.
Post #17 goes step by step on what you need to do, and how the lines on the terminal should look like.
This is really not that difficult once you get your bearings, and for me it was a lot of fun...actually a little bored with the phone after having done this.
Put (SOLVED) in your thread title please.
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You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
Lennyuk said:
You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
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Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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ddotpatel said:
Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
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Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. ...
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So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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Are you sure the corruption didn't stem from an earlier unsuccessful attempt to root with Visionary ?
I've yet to see a thread where someone has done something bad to their phone via rage, all it does is fire up a ton of process to use an exploit which gets you root. That can't corrupt your phone on its own.
Do you have some links ?
ddotpatel said:
So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
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Here you go.
I've been getting a lot of requests from people, simply asking how I went about Rooting and Flashing new ROMs to my lovely G2 Vision. Well, I'm gonna make a guide with step by step instructions on how to do so. This Guide will teach you how to Root, Unroot, S-OFF (security off, to enable development), and how to Flash a new ROM to your G2.
NOTE!: I am NOT a developer, and i will only accept thanks for putting this information together, I did not create these instructions. Thank the individual developers/posters for their information!
WARNING!!: These procedures are not only dangerous if you don't follow them to the point, but also void the warranty on your phone!! Following these steps incorrectly can brick or otherwise damage your phone!! XDA-DEVELOPERS as well as MYSELF accept NO RESPONSIBILITY to what happens to your phone!!
Just in case you didn't get the message.. WE AREN'T RESPONSIBLE. HACK AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
I will do my best to help anyone along their way, but you've been warned. We aren't here to take the blame for a mistake, we're here to help you do what you're seeking to do.
Got it? Let's proceed, shall we?
First off? The Rooting!
ROOTING: Allowing the phone and it's softwares to have access to the "Root", or complete control, of the phone itself.
This procedure includes two major steps. Temporary Root and Permanent Root. The rooting process for the Temp Root will revoke itself after a reboot. The Perm Root method will not. The rooting process is not complete until the Perm Root process has been finished and the Root is still active after a reboot!
Temp Root the G2:
1. On your phone, go to Settings > Applications > Development > and make sure USB Debugging is ON (it MUST be ON) and make sure Fastboot is checked OFF (it MUST be OFF).
2. Visionary was removed from the Market, please download it from Here instead. Save it to your phone's memory card, then simply open it on your phone with any file manager app. (like Linda File Manager for free from the Market, for example) Find the visionary .apk file in the file manager and click it and follow the prompts to install it.
3. Install Visionary from Modaco.
4. Once installed, open Visionary and check ON Temp Root After Reboot, and check ON System R/W After Root. Then click TempRoot Now, and wait for it to finish. DO NOT CLICK ATTEMPT PERMROOT NOW! We'll get to that momentarily.
5. Once it is done, you have temp root and can use rooted apps without rebooting, OR continue to the next procedure to gain persistent root access.
Perm Root & S-OFF the G2:
An explanation of what S-OFF is and why you might want it - S Off means security off for your HBoot mode (aka Bootloader). The bootloader is what allows you to flash updates and write to the file system of your phone. By turning the Security OFF, we can flash any updates/ROMs we want without the phone checking to see if it is an official update or not.
Let's continue.
1. Download the rooting files: Right here.
2. Extract the files somewhere to your computer.
3. Plug your phone in via USB cable and mount the SD card so we can transfer files to it.
4. Copy the .ko and .img files from inside the extracted folder from step 2 to the root of your sd card on your phone (NOT in any folders, just on the SD card itself).
5. Unplug the phone.
6. Go to the Market on your phone and download/install Android Terminal Emulator (free).
7. Open the Terminal Emulator app and type the following with hitting enter at the end of each line (to get the touch screen keyboard to come up hit the menu button then toggle soft keyboard):
Code:
su
cd /sdcard
insmod /sdcard/wpthis.ko
*After typing the last line, you should see an error saying failed:
(function not implemented). If you DO see that, you have done it correctly
and can continue.
8. Now, type the following line in the terminal emulator hitting enter at the end of the line.
Code:
dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
[the last part is mmcblk(zero)p(one)(eight)]
9. After you have typed the dd line for your specific phone, it should say something was written etc. Now, type the following into the command prompt with hitting enter at the end of each line:
Code:
sync
10. After that is done, reboot the phone. When it boots back up, turn it off and back on holding down Volume Down and Power until the HBoot screen comes up. Confirm it says S-OFF at the top. If so, you have S-OFF.
11. Now, to get permanent root, turn the phone back on to get to the normal home screen.
12. Open Visionary and Uncheck TempRoot on Boot and click Temproot Now.
13. Then select Attempt Perm Root Now and the phone should reboot.
14. Once the phone reboots, open Terminal Emulator on the phone and type su and hit enter. If you get the # symbol, you have permanent root access and S-OFF!
Next? The ROM Flashing!
Alright, guys. If you've made it this far, You're golden. Grade A directions taker, In my opinion. Let's get to the last step, yeah?
Getting Recovery:
1. Once you have done the above to procedures, open the Market on your phone and search for ROM Manager (Free).
2. Install it.
3. Open the ROM Manager app and click Menu, then Settings and turn ON Delete Recovery.
4. Click Back and then select Flash Recovery.
5. Choose your phone model and then let it flash the recovery.
6. Click Reboot Recovery and you should be put into the custom recovery image screen. If so, you are all set.
Now, to Flash a Custom ROM:
1. Head over to theunlockr.com's ROM page here and choose your preferred ROM. Download it and save it to your computer.
2. Once it is saved, plug in your phone via USB cable and mount the SD card so we can save files to the sd card.
3. Copy the ROM's .zip file over to the root of the sd card (NOT in any folders on the sd card, just on the root of the card) (do NOT extract it, leave it as a .zip).
4. In the custom recovery screen, Backup/Restore and backup your current ROM.
5. Then select Wipe Data.
6. Then select Apply .zip from sd card and choose the ROM you downloaded earlier.
7. Once it is done flashing, click reboot system. Once it reboots, you are all set!
Congrats! You've flashed a new ROM to your G2! Hopefully..
There are some known issues out there, that prevent mostly the Rooting process. I'll touch on one of them real quickly.
The main issue I experienced was that I accepted and flashed the update that T-Mobile released to prevent Rooting. I've found an article on how to downgrade your firmware to pre-OTA, so that you can Root. Try this if you have severe issues trying to complete the Rooting process. Thanks to Apache14 for this info!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
There's now also a process to UNROOT your phone! Here's the link. Thanks to David Cogen from theunlockr for all this information!!
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Thanks for reading, XDA friendlies, and Happy Rooting!!
Thnx for the link to the unroot man
Sent from my HTC Vision
No problem!
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Thanks for the effort. But I'm not sure what this is achieving other than duplicating the existing rooting guides in the dev forum.
Also this isn't a very up-to-date guide, it only seems to use one version of "wpthis.ko" and it isn't clear if this is for pre-OTA or post-OTA G2s. And it doesn't cover the DZ either, so it's not a "Vision" guide, just a G2 one.
The existing wpthis.ko was found by scotty not really to work properly anyway, and the newer gfree method of rooting (fully documented in the Wiki) is more reliable (though still does not work with all kernels). And you know Visionary hasn't been updated for months now, right ?
Sorry if this seems like I'm just trashing your guide, but I don't see how posting old information is going to help people ?
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Thanks for the effort. But I'm not sure what this is achieving other than duplicating the existing rooting guides in the dev forum.
Also this isn't a very up-to-date guide, it only seems to use one version of "wpthis.ko" and it isn't clear if this is for pre-OTA or post-OTA G2s. And it doesn't cover the DZ either, so it's not a "Vision" guide, just a G2 one.
The existing wpthis.ko was found by scotty not really to work properly anyway, and the newer gfree method of rooting (fully documented in the Wiki) is more reliable (though still does not work with all kernels). And you know Visionary hasn't been updated for months now, right ?
Sorry if this seems like I'm just trashing your guide, but I don't see how posting old information is going to help people ?
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It may be old, but I had yet to see a collective guide on xda developers' website about rooting, s-off, and flashing the 'G2' vision. In which I clearly stated this was for the G2. Not the Desire Z. This is the only method I knew about, and this guide was for a few select friends, and whomever else felt the need to use it. Its okay if you don't agree this post was helpful. But come on. This was the surefire way I used to root my G2, so I'm spreading the knowledge. Let not hate.
So visionary still works right?
Just checking before I go threw with this.
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It may be old, but I had yet to see a collective guide on xda developers' website about rooting, s-off, and flashing the 'G2' vision. In which I clearly stated this was for the G2. Not the Desire Z. This is the only method I knew about, and this guide was for a few select friends, and whomever else felt the need to use it. Its okay if you don't agree this post was helpful. But come on. This was the surefire way I used to root my G2, so I'm spreading the knowledge. Let not hate.
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Exactly, it's old. If you're writing a new guide, why use very old, out-of-date info, when you could easily provide the latest info (e.g. from the Wiki).
Yes, it's a collective guide, but one with old info in, so I don't see how that's helpful.
Your guide uses wpthis.ko, but makes no reference to G2s that might be running the original shipped ROM, or the OTA update. So this will only work on some of those phones.
Your article talks about something that T-Mobile did "to prevent rooting". I don't know where you got that information from, but it's not correct. T-Mobile did nothing to prevent rooting, because the OTA came out before root was fully achieved. It's just that the way of disabling NAND write protection needed to be done differently on the OTA (more as an accident than anything that T-Mobile did).
You refer to Visionary as a "sure-fire" way of rooting. Are you sure ? Have you seen how many phones have ended up stuck in a boot loop after using Visionary ?
Also, I find it kind of weird/interesting how your guide points people to another website to choose their list of custom ROMs. Why not point them to the dev forum on this site ?
Sorry but your guide is full of mistakes and out of date. You haven't even posted it in the right forum, this is the Q&A forum.
It worked for me. Bottom line, That's because i did it step by step and actually followed directions.
Old or not, IT WORKS.
If you want to make something better, then do so. Otherwise, silence your lout. Thank you.
Thank you for this write up. I was having problems getting my root to stick even though it was showing s-off but I followed your steps
10. After that is done, reboot the phone. When it boots back up, turn it off and back on holding down Volume Down and Power until the HBoot screen comes up. Confirm it says S-OFF at the top. If so, you have S-OFF.
11. Now, to get permanent root, turn the phone back on to get to the normal home screen.
12. Open Visionary and Uncheck TempRoot on Boot and click Temproot Now.
13. Then select Attempt Perm Root Now and the phone should reboot.
14. Once the phone reboots, open Terminal Emulator on the phone and type su and hit enter. If you get the # symbol, you have permanent root access and S-OFF
AND IT WORKS!!!!
You're welcome, fellow G2 owner.
Why don't you join my group, for those who love their G2? just check my groups in my profile, hopefully we can get a good set of owners together. You never kno what a mass of similar thinking people could accomplish!
Plus, i'm going to start posting some cool guide on how to further customize / enhance your device! Good stuff to kno.
Can i use this tutorial for HTC Desire Z?
Dimitri1992 said:
Can i use this tutorial for HTC Desire Z?
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This tutorial was create for THE G2. I would NOT recommend you trying this method. Go around and search google for a tutorial MADE FOR YOUR PHONE. Although the phones are almost exactly alike, they don't necessarily mean they are exactly the same.
Find a different method.
Need help
This is not working for me. I temprooted my phone using visionary but when i try to use terminal to permroot, whenever i type "su" it say permission denied. Please help. I've been trying to do this all night and have been unsuccessful.
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Exactly, it's old. If you're writing a new guide, why use very old, out-of-date info, when you could easily provide the latest info (e.g. from the Wiki).
Yes, it's a collective guide, but one with old info in, so I don't see how that's helpful.
Your guide uses wpthis.ko, but makes no reference to G2s that might be running the original shipped ROM, or the OTA update. So this will only work on some of those phones.
Your article talks about something that T-Mobile did "to prevent rooting". I don't know where you got that information from, but it's not correct. T-Mobile did nothing to prevent rooting, because the OTA came out before root was fully achieved. It's just that the way of disabling NAND write protection needed to be done differently on the OTA (more as an accident than anything that T-Mobile did).
You refer to Visionary as a "sure-fire" way of rooting. Are you sure ? Have you seen how many phones have ended up stuck in a boot loop after using Visionary ?
Also, I find it kind of weird/interesting how your guide points people to another website to choose their list of custom ROMs. Why not point them to the dev forum on this site ?
Sorry but your guide is full of mistakes and out of date. You haven't even posted it in the right forum, this is the Q&A forum.
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Hmm...It is true that it is out of date but for me it works fine. I didn't use the wiki way cause it was to confusing for me and Unfrogivens method was working fine on me. Not saying this method is better or anything and I know this method is unsafe "if" you do not fallow what it says. Like always people try Gfree method 1st before trying this one...(Only for G2)
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Hmm...It is true that it is out of date but for me it works fine. I didn't use the wiki way cause it was to confusing for me and Unfrogivens method was working fine on me. Not saying this method is better or anything and I know this method is unsafe "if" you do not fallow what it says. Like always people try Gfree method 1st before trying this one...(Only for G2)
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When I rooted my DZ, I combined all referrences and guides
It was very hard at the beginning to understand the instruction, but after read and tried, it become easier to understand.. and I finally could root my DZ...
Cheers
Hello
Hello all totally new to android and was trying to root my g2. I followed instructions thourghly ( so i thought at least) and the s is still on after i exit the emulator and reboot. The last part about typing sync threw me off, how many times am i supposed to type sync while hitting enter after each line? Which lines, im sure overanaylzing something but didnt seem to work and tried multiple times. Thanks for your time..
i used visionary to temp root my device, then i clicked on the perm root option just to say what happened then my phone froze i started touching the screen and a menu popped up and i clicked an option on accident. the option on the left. then my phone shut off and is froze on the htc boot screen. i pulled the battery and the same thing happened. i tried a factory data reset and the phone is still frozen on the boot screen. please help T-Mo G2, 2.2, no roms
I really do not know why the visionary guides are allowed on these forums. I find it GROSSLY irresponsible of the mods. It has been proven TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME again that visionary bricks phone. For god sakes there is a sticky at the top of the forum saying DON'T USE VISIONARY FOR PERM ROOT. Your phone might be screwed. And its really not your fault. Those threads need closed. Period. Seriously mods, how many phones do you want ruined before you rid the forum of the visionary crap. The gfree method among MANY other alternatives works and DOESN'T BRICK PHONES. WHY LET THIS CRAP STAY FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO SEE IT AS AN EASY METHOD AND JUMP AT IT UGH.
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if you'd done some research (not picking on you, just for future reference), you'd have found many a testimony that visionary should not be used on the vision--oh, the irony--to obtain permanent root. visionary temp root is fine, but its perm root is dangerous to our phones.
are you able to boot into recovery? do you have a custom recovery (ie clockworkmod) installed? do you have the engineering hboot installed?
Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry
i can boot into recovery but i dont have cyanogen or any roms or anything installed i just rooted my phone
will htc help me?
AroundTheWorld said:
Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry
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Not always but a lot of people it does.
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paulwoods1114 said:
will htc help me?
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Don't tell them that you tried to root your phone, just tell them it did it on it's own.
sure, they'll probably find out once they've got it, but by then they'll probably just fix it. htc sometimes fixes rooted phones if the they belive the problem was something else.
for example (this has actually happened):
lets say your phones screen stopped working, but it was rooted. the root has nothing to do with the screen, so they'll fix it, but when the phone was returned to the customer it was no longer rooted.
Is sending my phone to HTC my only option because i can still boot into to recovery and get into the bootloader and all that. i just want to know that HTC is my last resort
If your bootloader says S-ON, and your recovery is not CWM then you're good to go.
Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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My bootloader says S-ON
My bootloader says S-ON
paulwoods1114 said:
My bootloader says S-ON
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yea warranty will cover it... just dont mention root or anyting.... it did it by itself you hear me (personal experience.... one of the first to brick using visionary....)
Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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Actually they can take them off the forums, and even if that was true, they can close the threads and let them fall into oblivion. They do all of xda a gigantic disservice by being so irresponsible and letting that junk linger so noobs can brick there phone within the freaking day of buying it. Its outrageous and I'm not gonna listen to any other arguement.
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There's a perfectly good guide on XDA Wiki for permrooting the G2, and other sub forums on XDA for each device to root. There's no need for Visionary at this point. There will always be alternative ways to root phones.
Well,
I was using the word "can't" for emphasis. I suppose in some ways "don't" would have been more accurate. Let me try again. Feel free not to listen. I will always be grateful to Modaco. Here's why: I had a G1 (gf has it now -running froyo at the moment), TouchPro 2 (my Dad is using it now - so not that modified, but it was); I finally get a G2 and I can't do anything with it. I sat there for 24 hours trying to root it before I called 1 of the 2 guys in Austin on Craigslist offering flashing/rooting/unlocking services. Sat with him for 12 hours. On the plus side he did show me how to set up ABD. On the other hand lot of time with an irate stranger who won't even take the money he is so upset with himself.
Finally figured out if you use the root no abd required method twice (on everything but the G2s with Gingerbread) you can sneak by barely and downgrade etc. Visionary provided the temp root.
I wasn't lucky enough to get a G2 on the first day. I was in the same boat as the folks with Gingerbread. Thought I had waited too long. My parting words from the professional flashers place. But Visionary and the automated scripts for Gfree saved me. Should the perm root button contain a warning that you need s-off first? Sure. But developers have little incentive to update when criticism is so harsh. I have a feeling every root method is indebted to Visionary. If I had a "ginger" G2 I would be praying they were working on a fix.
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