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Rooting with visionary

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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awallz6 said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm very new to this. I have temp root with visionary and I have the phone overclocked and it works perfectly. What makes things go wrong usually with the visionary method for achieving permroot? It seems like the program would work the same on most devices, but it doesn't seem like its 100 percent from what I've read.
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the only thing that has "gone wrong" with permarooting for me is that when I completely power down my phone and plug it into the charger the phone will just automatically boot into recovery every time. Other then that permarooting is the way to go and don't have one complaint other then the booting into recovery while charging thing

People should stop complaining when something wrong happens with the visionary method. The rage method is much more reliable... Worked the first time for me, and honestly it's less complicated.

I think paul wishes he never added a perm root option. If you have any doubts use the rage method it only about 4 lines of code...
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This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
This is the visionary method, but works fine.
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems

eioous said:
Easiest perm root method yet
Mod Edit: See comment below. Links removed. ~TheRomMistress
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This isn't spam, its a scam, MOD's already removed this link several times before.
Here's a link to a previous thread on the same site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856451&highlight=g2root
and I know of one other thread that was locked by MOD's
EDIT: For noobs this post is not referring to the video links in the post above, those video links work perfectly for rooting your phone. This post was referring to a link that someone had posted on this thread and that the forum mod "TheRomMistress" removed for malice links.

Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1

I too rooted through the videos off of theunlockr.com and achieved a permroot successfully. I'm not sure if others are not following directions well, or if the app is screwing up on its own, but more than a few people have semi bricked to fully bricked their phones using visionary r14. With that being said I'm greatfully appreciative of what that program did for me.
IMHO, I would take a few days to read through other posts and set up adb and root using the rage method, as for there is no way in hell you can screw it up copy and pasting the codes.
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I used VISIONary the first time (followed instructions perfectly) and it messed my phone up - still booted and everything, but couldn't get permroot no matter what I tried. Finally took it back to the store (was within my 14-days) and told them it was randomly rebooting, so they swapped it out. Came home and did the Rage method in about 10 minutes and it worked perfectly - rocking the Virtuous ROM ever since.

I appreciate your responses. I didn't have any luck with rage (tried it several times first). Then I tried the unlocker guide. Then, I stumbled upon this guide:
http://androidforums.com/desire-z-a...locking-your-bell-desire-z-newb-friendly.html
I don't know if it has anything to do with the Bell branding, but it worked the first time I tried it. Anyone struggling might give it a look.

jonny_ringo_wvu said:
Temp root worked just like video.
During perm root I didn't get the correct error message after using the .ko file. Mine read:
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/wpthis.ko' failed (Exec format error)
The instructions and video state it should read:
failed: (Function not implemented)
In light of this difference, is it safe to proceed to the next step (#7)?
If not, do I need to correct what I've already done?
Any and all help is appreciated.
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Seems to be because I'm running 2.2 on a Desire Z and this is set up for a G2 on 2.2.1
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If you don't use the correct wpthis module for the kernel running on your phone, then it won't work as you've found. You're right that that is the "wrong" error message. It is "safe" to proceed but it has failed to unlock the NAND write protection, so your changes won't be permanent (i.e. you will have lost root again after a reboot).
I recommend using the gfree method to root/S-OFF, as per the Wiki, which means you don't have to choose the "correct" kernel module because it does that for you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29

How to put cyanogen with visionary?

Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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As far as i know visionary is not gonna brick your phone ,in regard to changing your rom you also need to s/off your phone, and to do that you need to setup ADB on your computer i suggest you read this posts first ,you will find all the answers you are after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
After you root and s-off your phone you need to setup rom manager so you will get clockworkmod recovery and you can boot in to that and flash a new rom or kernel through there.
and i am not sure about the question you had about the update.
yes you will get su after rooting.

Hwoarang747 said:
Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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Ok, first there are already many threads on this subject, so next time you should try a search first,
for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882546
Next the following links will help walk you thru rooting your phone using visionary r14. I have not had any problems with it, many people have rooted this way. If something goes wrong it is usually operator error. This method is for after the OTA. All needed files and links are in the video instructions.
Visionary has bricked phones before when not properly used, the videos show how to use it properly, use all the same settings in the videos.
This is the visionary method, but works perfectly when done correctly..
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
Also the video "Load a custom rom" will give you a link to flash your first rom. There are a couple of choices to choose from.
Good Luck.
Editlease see post #32 in this thread for a testimony from someone who just followed the videos and rooted his phone.

Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Everyones still waiting on gingerbread, but it looks like Cyanogen is in the lead for releasing it.
Any time you flash a new rom you need to wipe data/cache in recovery. Updates to the same rom a wipe is not needed.
As far as what you want in a rom, my suggestion is to start flashing diffrent roms and give them a try. I thought I didnt like sense but I am currently running a sense rom (Virtuous). So you dont know till you try.

1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1)Show me one brick from someone following the videos I posted and Ill take the links down. Yes a lot of people have bricked using visionary, but thats because they assumed they knew what they were doing when in fact they did not. Visionary causes bricks when not properly used, the videos shows how to use it properly. You must follow all the steps from start to finish including the temp root settings they use in the videos.
2)and yes there is a beta version of gingerbread out CM7 but Cyanogen did not officially release this version, and there are so many bugs in it I hardly think a noob needs to flash CM 7.0.0.

What exactly its the range method?
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Hwoarang747 said:
What exactly its the range method?
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Its Rage method and heres a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage
I recommend you read this thread and make informed desicions, if you know how to use ADB, then this is another method. But if you dont the method I posted above is your other option, it doesn't require the use of ADB.
As far as ADB goes this is something I highly recommend learning, but we all know some people just dont get it. It took me a lot of reading and watching videos to understand ADB. Now that I know how to use ADB its pretty simple, but I remember when I first started with rooting ADB was like reading greek. But I really cant stress enough the importance of learning ADB.

Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.

Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways

Hwoarang747 said:
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
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I used the videos to root my G2, there have been a lot of bricks using Visionary but I have yet to see anyone say they followed the videos to the "T" and it bricked there phone. As for the Rage method, there have been almost no reports of bricks from this method, but I have seen a few bootloops (stuck on the HTC screen). It requires using ADB, so if your ok with ADB use the Rage method, if not, you'll have to weigh the risks based on your own ability. My suggestion, watch the videos, all of them and if its something within your skill range go for it.

Hwoarang747 said:
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Ok, get rooted first then you can worry about kernels, I believe Cyanogen 6.1.1 already comes with an overclocked kernel up to 1.42GHz. So all you have to do is flash CM 6.1.1 his latest release, then down load a cpu controlling app from the market like setcpu(which I use) or cputuner(free) and set the parameters you want your cpu to run at.

Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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It usualy is you can boot in to recovery and wipe and flash another kernal or rom. Just have a look at the links that I posted ,you will get all the answers.
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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Not always hopefully if this happens you have gotten far enough along to put a recovery on your phone, or sometime you can stock recovery factory reset but if those options arn't there guess what you would have to have AndriodSDk installed on your computer with ADB, but you would have to do everything in fastboot mode which is giving commands from your computer to you phone. So it wouldn't be adb because you have to be booted into Andriod to use it, it would be fastboot and run commands similar to ADB, so for this purpose you would have to know how to use ADB. And even then no guarantees. So if you are looking for a guarantee you wont brick your phone there are none, and I wont give you one, these methods have been proven to work if you follow them exactly, mess up and you have a brick.
I know most people dont have $500+ laying around and I know I dont but for me the rewards far outweighed the risk. I just got a pm from another member that followed the videos and guess what he is rooted, he did it today. I asked him to post in this thread with his success story, so hopefully he will.
Here is a quote from him from my PM "it worked! i got so frustrated with adb, i gave it a shot and success!"
Edit: He just posted success his user name is robot_agenda and his post is #32 in this thread.

wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?

Hwoarang747 said:
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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He rooted his phone with visionary following the videos I posted.

and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?

Hwoarang747 said:
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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That has nothing to do with visionary, thats has to do with ClockworkMod recovery, if your phone is powered off and you plug it in to charge it boots into recovery, if you want root you have to deal with this issue untill they fix the bug in clockworkmod recovery. Also the phone shuts off fine unless its pluged in. Everyone with a htc vision phone who is rooted has this issue. as for me I charge my phone while it on so it doesn't bother me.
heres a link to the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884516

Root app for EVO

I just got an EVO and I was wondering if there is an app like z4root to root my EVO.
XDA app on EVO 4G

shonmac11 said:
I just got an EVO and I was wondering if there is an app like z4root to root my EVO.
XDA app on EVO 4G
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Sounds like you need to do a bit of reading and stuff, but the closest thing to an app that provides root for the Evo is Unrevoked. You run it from your computer, with your Evo plugged in via USB. Follow the instructions on how to do it, and read up. You need to have the correct hboot drivers, there are links and instructions on unrevoked website. www.unrevoked.com.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427
You should find all of these links useful, and help you get to know your Evo a bit. Have fun!!

i like unrevoked, but in my personal opinion, once you are done, you know nothing. you have this superuser app, cant ota, and are really confused and pissed. now, if you follow the link i have in my sig, you can root manually. you will begin to understand adb, the mechanichs of the evo, and how to flash roms, and the like. if you find it too confusing (or use an operating system besides windows) i can help a bit with the hand-holding. again, the one linked in my sig under rooting link is more advanced, but definetally worth it.

dkdude36 said:
i like unrevoked, but in my personal opinion, once you are done, you know nothing. you have this superuser app, cant ota, and are really confused and pissed. now, if you follow the link i have in my sig, you can root manually. you will begin to understand adb, the mechanichs of the evo, and how to flash roms, and the like. if you find it too confusing (or use an operating system besides windows) i can help a bit with the hand-holding. again, the one linked in my sig under rooting link is more advanced, but definetally worth it.
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Yea, I agree with that. I wish I had rooted the manual way, but I went backwards. I rooted with Unrevoked, not knowing too much (as you said), but I did learn ADB and tons of other stuff from XDA and it's members. I'm just glad I'm comfortable with adb now, and in hindsight, it would've been beneficial to have learned adb first, ha.

dkdude36 said:
i like unrevoked, but in my personal opinion, once you are done, you know nothing. you have this superuser app, cant ota, and are really confused and pissed. now, if you follow the link i have in my sig, you can root manually. you will begin to understand adb, the mechanichs of the evo, and how to flash roms, and the like. if you find it too confusing (or use an operating system besides windows) i can help a bit with the hand-holding. again, the one linked in my sig under rooting link is more advanced, but definetally worth it.
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I agree and disagree. I used unrevoked because it was easy. I learned adb by myself through trial and error, but also an engineering majoring, so i can use coding a bit. But it really depends on how well the users wants to know it and can still learn adb, cuz for some it might be better to go the easy way, then double back and learn it.

dkdude36 said:
i like unrevoked, but in my personal opinion, once you are done, you know nothing. you have this superuser app, cant ota, and are really confused and pissed. now, if you follow the link i have in my sig, you can root manually. you will begin to understand adb, the mechanichs of the evo, and how to flash roms, and the like. if you find it too confusing (or use an operating system besides windows) i can help a bit with the hand-holding. again, the one linked in my sig under rooting link is more advanced, but definetally worth it.
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I agree. I dislike the black box method. Actually I've never used any of the unrevoked methods. For my first evo, I used toast's unroot method. For my second evo, I used what had to be the slickest shortest method using ADB. But this was back with 1.47.
I was a total android noob, no engineering degree, and limited unix/linux user (I know some commands but no scripting). But I can read and follow instructions.

You know, what method you use really depends on what you want to do. If you just want to root for wireless tether, then use unrevoked, but you will be annoyed and confused when you can't upgrade to gingerbread when it comes out (this was me with froyo). So choose wisely

dkdude36 said:
You know, what method you use really depends on what you want to do. If you just want to root for wireless tether, then use unrevoked, but you will be annoyed and confused when you can't upgrade to gingerbread when it comes out (this was me with froyo). So choose wisely
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Really? I did it easy peazy. What kinds of issues did you have?

teh roxxorz said:
Really? I did it easy peazy. What kinds of issues did you have?
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I just didn't know anything yet. I was new to android and root and stuff. Somebody who asks for a one click app like z4root without even searching should probably familiarize himself with more advanced things.

I find the one-click method really easy.

mufc1991 said:
I find the one-click method really easy.
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Could you send me a link for the method
XDA app on EVO 4G

shonmac11 said:
Could you send me a link for the method
XDA app on EVO 4G
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Here you go, it should be the first one: unrevoked
Please research thoroughly before you dive in
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unrevoked
good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzEot2oYKbw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does the first part of this video fully roots the phone. I'm only into rooting my phone not flashing roms yet.
XDA app on EVO 4G

go to unrevoked but i warn you. It's nothing realy special about it. I thought so but now i'm trying to unroot

lilfez said:
go to unrevoked but i warn you. It's nothing realy special about it. I thought so but now i'm trying to unroot
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true, but it is a way to make other magic happen, i.e., custom roms, kernels, radios and the like

Z4Root provides temporary root on the EVO, just so you know

xrdodrx said:
Z4Root provides temporary root on the EVO, just so you know
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I tried that and it told me my phone was not rooted
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lilfez said:
go to unrevoked but i warn you. It's nothing realy special about it. I thought so but now i'm trying to unroot
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Will it work through the phone's browser because I don't have. Computer T the time
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nope. needs comp. last warning, you will know nothing and have a rooted phone just sitting there like lilfez up there ^^^. warning...

ive used unrevoked to get rooted then learned how to flash roms properly and or manually... adding mods, kernels, zips full wipe and partially wipe when needed. i found it fun learning to FLASH roms.

Temp-Rooting?

since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)

Like the other poster said using the gfree method worked for me but I did use visionary for temp root to get the files I needed to where they had to go.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary just to get temp root to access the data privalge you will also need a app called rootexplorer you'll need this to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand times you'll know what I had directed you to do and why its easyier to move them manually.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
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Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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prittyboy203 said:
Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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i didnt understand that post at all
could you clearify what you mean?

Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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prittyboy203 said:
Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.

Ohhh hey well thanks for the fyi well he still asking for help and not getting far just in a new spot good luck my friend on rooting and like they all say use google or the search button in the corner there's a bunch of people that have posted the same question but look at the datas or youll get a huge brick
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)
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Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?

joemm said:
FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.
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oh, i thought i posted it in the Q&A, my bad then.
prittyboy203 said:
But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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well, yeah, i want to get rid of garbage apps and tweak some files, such as gaining my own shortcut key as it was removed to fit Scandinavian language keys.
also, wifi-tethering exist under the name "portable wifi hotspot" in Desire Z
joemm said:
Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?
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Desire Z, i'm running the rom that came with it.
Android 2.2
build number 1.82.405.1 (<- rom?)

Ahh now I know what your goal is then I could try and help a little more. but the rooting part if you read one part and execute it it won't take long. how far have you gotten did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
Sent from my Liquid Metal using Tapatalk

Edit: I'm pretty sure we need a lot more reading done before attempting root or anything.

prittyboy203 said:
did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
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did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).

comoba said:
did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
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prittyboy203 said:
big fat post copied from another thread that includes how to perm root, but most of it is copied from the link in the above quote
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Edit: forget about the info posted didn't know they have 2 phones that hardware wise the same and that to root is different for each phone sorry for the wrong info

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pittyboy, i'm sorry but, can you start typing on a computer instead?
you lack of dots, commas and question marks makes it really hard to understand what you are typing.
and i have no problems with using adb at all.
not to mention that your "guide" is almost the same as the one i used in the temp-root part.
the only difference i can see is how chmod is done and if u do /data/local/tmp/root after it .

@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
@prittyboy203 you are giving wrong advice on rooting, you are telling him to push a file specifically for the G2 to his desire Z, you might want to do some research before giving advice.
Specifically this: The following is only for the Tmobile G2...
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PERM ROOT
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ON YOUR PC:
unzip the vision-perm-root.zip and navigate to that folder. There will be four files. You will need to push two of these to your phone- hboot-eng.img, and one of the wpthis-[..].ko files.
If you HAVE applied the OTA update, push wpthis-OTA.ko.
If you HAVE NOT applied the OTA update, push wpthis-pre-OTA.ko.
Code:
$ adb push hboot-eng.img /data/local
$ adb push wpthis-OTA.ko /data/local
ON YOUR PHONE:
You should still have terminal emulator up, at a root prompt. Now run:
Code:
# insmod /data/local/wpthis-OTA.ko
You should see:
Code:
init_module 'wpthis-OTA.ko' failed (Function not implemented)
That means it worked. This next step is CRUCIAL. You must make sure that you are writing to the proper partition here or you could brick your phone. To be absolutely clear- the partition is mmcblk(zero)p(one)(eight)
dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
You should see some messages indicating that it was written. Next, run:
# /data/local/tmp/root
This will lock in root, and give you 'su' access in the future. Next, run:
# sync
Now wait at least a minute, just to be safe. After waiting, reboot your phone using the power button. After it finishes starting up, launch the terminal emulator, and type 'su'. You should get the prompt asking you to grant permissions. If you got the prompt, congratulations! You have permanent root!
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Sorry for the double post but I wanted you to see this,
The method I gave you above to Downgrade your ROM HERE is confirmed to work with 1.82 rom even though the instructions were written to downgrade from 1.72 to 1.34. Heres the post confirming this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11855369&postcount=177

joemm said:
@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
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if i was doing that; temp-rooting the first time, to get everything installed etc, would i still be able to temproot if i upgrade the rom back to 1.82? or should i do perm root because it would be better?

Confused

I just recently bought a G2 and updated its software...But I'm clueless where to start/how to root the phone. I looked through some stickies, but I got lost right away. Can anyone help or show me something a lot easier to follow? Thanks

Word to the wise, if the rooting process seemed too hard to do do not do it and stay stock, lot less risk of your phone bricking.

monkeytuner said:
I just recently bought a G2 and updated its software...But I'm clueless where to start/how to root the phone. I looked through some stickies, but I got lost right away. Can anyone help or show me something a lot easier to follow? Thanks
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Just follow the guide in the wiki step by step, and remember to double check your typing before issuing ang commands
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

monkeytuner said:
I just recently bought a G2 and updated its software...But I'm clueless where to start/how to root the phone. I looked through some stickies, but I got lost right away. Can anyone help or show me something a lot easier to follow? Thanks
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What software did you upgrade? You may have to downgrade to root, pay attention to software versions.
Sent from my shiny metal G2 w/ meXdroid V3

PaganAng3l said:
What software did you upgrade? You may have to downgrade to root, pay attention to software versions.
Sent from my shiny metal G2 w/ meXdroid V3
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I'm on 2.2
Build number 1.22.531
Kerner 2.6.32.17
Hboot-0.82

Just follow the steps on the wiki like a member said. I had no experience whatsoever but managed to learn a little adb and successfully rooted my phone. Use the rage gfree method. It is simple with the least chance of bricking
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

The Wiki guide is right here, if you haven't found it yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Just read up as much as you can before you start, and follow the instruction very carefully, and you will be fine.
The Gingerbread (Android 2.3) OTA that is currenlty being deployed is not currently rootable (and requires downgrading first to root), but you should be okay since you are still on the T-Mobile 2.2 ROM still.

What about doing this on Macs?

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What about doing this on Macs?
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It should work on a Mac. Just dual boot into a Linux distribution.

Could someone post the Windows USB Drivers for the Vision?
The link is dead, and i couldn't find anything after I searched for it.
Can somebody also post T-Mobile G2 and HTC Desire Z: recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-vision.img (md5sum cbc776e7941ebf030e9fa39473d5b6f1)
? The link won't load, I'l borrow my friends windows to do this. Thanks so much!
Edit:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Will this method work after doing a temp root? It seems a lot easier

As far as the usb drivers go, I used pda.net from the market. If after you install pda.net it still sees your phone as usb mass storage only, then unplug your phone, remove the current driver and plug it back in. It should ask you if you want to set up your new hardware and show it as an android device
Sent from my shiny metal G2 w/ meXdroid V3

monkeytuner said:
Could someone post the Windows USB Drivers for the Vision?
The link is dead, and i couldn't find anything after I searched for it.
Can somebody also post T-Mobile G2 and HTC Desire Z: recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-vision.img (md5sum cbc776e7941ebf030e9fa39473d5b6f1)
? The link won't load, I'l borrow my friends windows to do this. Thanks so much!
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Just download HTC Sync, it comes with the drivers:
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=325&act=sd&cat=all
There is a similar post about the Clockworkmod download. Might just be down temporarily. Try again later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097465

Will the visionary method work too?

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Will the visionary method work too?
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NO. And yes. Confused? Here is a link to the method myself and many others have used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
This is an "easy" method using Visionary to temp root ONLY and then G-free for perm root. Do not be tempted to check "perm-root now" on Visionary since there is a high brick risk. Anyhow, this method runs scripts so much less chance for typo errors... just follow the simple directions to the letter and you will be rooted in no time. Works like a dream.

That was easy! hah, this was a lot easier than what the wiki told me to do. Thank you so much

edit:i restored to my back up (phew ), but why does the CM screen keep on repeating after I try installing 7.03?
i rooted everything fine, but after installing CM 7, the boot logo keeps on repeating, and the home screen won't pop up. is there a fix for this? :/

No prob.
Did you do a full wipe before flashing CM7? Even if you did, I'd recommend a "Superwipe". This is a zip you flash from recovery like anything else, and it really gets to everything on your phone's memory. I don't have the direct link but you can download it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991254
It's down the page a bit, in the "attached files". The one on the top called SuperWipeG2+. Also, the ROM on that page is a nice one if you're looking for stuff other than CM. (Though CM is a good place to start)

I didn't do a complete wipe, I just did something else instead. I figured it out before checking this up, but thank you a lot for the help. +Thanks