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Basic's of Rooting

I was just wondering if anyone could just post the basic's of rooting, not how to do it, but everything I need to know and keep in mind, what everything means, if say something goes wrong, or need to re-flash a rom, just the basic's, I can follow directions just fine, so I don't think ill have any problems rooting.
I did the unrevoked method, just to get superuser and install a few apps, waiting to do the toast method once a good ROM comes out, and now that Fresh is out, I think it is time.

It is really pretty easy. I think setting up adb is the hardest part and it's not too bad either if you follow a guide here.
If searching xda isn't enough try youtube.

This is a bad idea.
Rooting isn't that hard, the instructions are clear. If it became any easier then everyone would do it and we would have people coming out of the woodwork asking for help for this that and the other.
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nenn said:
This is a bad idea.
Rooting isn't that hard, the instructions are clear. If it became any easier then everyone would do it and we would have people coming out of the woodwork asking for help for this that and the other.
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Who cares if "everyone comes out of the woodwork"???? People take this far too seriously...it's a freakn' phone. If there are a ton of noob questions on here, so be it. The world will not end. If you don't like the questions, there is a button on your mouse that will help you skip past it. I thought that's what forums were designed for in the first place??

oOflyeyesOo said:
I was just wondering if anyone could just post the basic's of rooting, not how to do it, but everything I need to know and keep in mind, what everything means, if say something goes wrong, or need to re-flash a rom, just the basic's, I can follow directions just fine, so I don't think ill have any problems rooting.
I did the unrevoked method, just to get superuser and install a few apps, waiting to do the toast method once a good ROM comes out, and now that Fresh is out, I think it is time.
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it's honestly REALLY EASY, you flash a zip, reboot, flash another zip then flash a rom and your done.

Installing the ROM on my phone wasn't what I was concerned about.... but whatever, flashing now.

How do you install unrevoked? I would like to try this method if is possible since I had my evo rooted then I unrooted and install the OTA and now I can't root it anymore.

http://unrevoked.com/m/
Go there, and then click the image, it will install itself. Make sure in the options you make it so it can download unautorized files.

So, could someone help me with rooting??

I've had my Evo for about 3 weeks now and am now wanting to root now that I see cyanogenmod is coming to Evo. I've rooted my Nexus and G1 with no problems but it seems the Evo is more difficult, what is the easiest way to root my Evo? And would someone be willing to help me with rooting it via IM or something similar?

There are tons of threads in the android development forum to show you how. Not to mention there was a one click root at some point if I am not mistaken, although I have no idea if it still works.

dougdascenzo said:
There are tons of threads in the android development forum to show you how. Not to mention there was a one click root at some point if I am not mistaken, although I have no idea if it still works.
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Yea, I've seen all of them and they all seem tedious compared to Nexus rooting. Which is the best method to go about rooting? I want to use Amon RA recovery if that helps. I'd really appreciate if someone could help me too.

Can anyone help?

Simple Root is 3 clicks & you're rooted & nand unlocked. Running win7 x64 & worked great for me.

I was reading up on it, do I need to uninstall HTC sync and the HTC drivers to get it to work??

I believe for unrevoked you need to remove those items ( the last time i checked at v2 ).
Versus Simple Root... I believe those are all required to get it to work.

What Version is your phone it would be much easier to know
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Its 1.47.651.1 I'm going to try the 1 simple root method, but just have one question, am I supposed to have it on charge only or disk drive?

Charge-only

Awe crap, I forgot to put flash recovery, was I supposed to do that first or can I do that after step 1 or something???

Ok, so I got to part 4 and it just says starting part 2, thats it, it doesn't do anything more. Did I do something wrong, or....? Please help.

So could someone please help me???????

What method are u using? Try unrevoked 3, its very simple
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

I had to do this after the using simple root method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915

Thanks for replying guys, but I got it to work finally late last night. Anyways, I can't get wireless tether to work. It keeps force closing. I know I have root and everything because I was able to make a nand backup and I flashed Damagecontrol.

Rooting without computer?

Hey everyone, just got my EVO tonight, traded up from my Hero, and was wondering if there is a one-click type root method that you can do using only the phone itself? I am quite familiar with the procedures of rooting and Rom flashing with the Hero but need to know my options now. Only reason I even made this thread over it is because I currently don't have access to a computer so if there is any way to root without one I'd really like to know, thanks in advance.

If this can't be done just say so.

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It can't be done. There was a procedure that allowed you to get root but was incomplete (using the OLD unrevoked app on the phone) and was not really root because it required to use the same exploit on boot (not to mention it did not give you NAND unlock and S-OFF). The easiest method right now is unrevoked 3.21 but it requires a computer to run (as well as the drivers for the device).

Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.

joehunni said:
Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.
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Good but keep in mind that rooting allows you to keep full nandroid backups (images) of your phone, flash custom ROMs (that remove most, if not all, of the Sprint bloatware), use wireless tether at no charge, flash custom kernels and control CPU speeds depending on the status of the phone and even on the fly, take screenshots of the content of the screen at any point in time and so on...
Just teasing.

Oh I know, I came from a Hero that has run every Rom/kernel combo possible. I'm just saying that with the Evo, out of the box, I'm not left wanting. I will still be rooting and becoming a flashamaniac soon enough though.

Root help please

So I finally got my G2/Vision, I want to perm-root my G2. But I fail so much, I can't even put Visionary into my G2.... I downloaded Astro, but I need to place Visionary r14 in my SD, but I can't find a place to put it.
When I look in my SD through windows, it shows me a LOST.DIR, .Trashes, .Spotlight-V100, .fseventsd, .android_secure, Android, etc. etc. But I still can't find the spot to place Visionary, Help?

place it in that folder

ilikepu said:
place it in that folder
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Haha, I figured I'd just dl it off the internet through my G2. It worked. Configured it.

Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.

ddgarcia05 said:
Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
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Whats the difference? And... What happens if I already used Visionary?

If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).

Ohhhh, Ok. Yeah I couldn't get Visionary to work until several tries. Took me a while. I was supprised I hadn't bricked my phone already. But now I'm pretty satisfied with CM 6.1 w/ MattedBlues theme. Sucks though I couldn't get it to work with Virtuous. I really like Sense alot more than the stock Rom (I consider CM 6 to be pretty stock)

Hope this helps!!!
steviewevie said:
If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
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+1 on the reliable and +1 on the scary!!!!
I am very new to Android,...I've only had my G2 for about 2 months...I ran Visionary temp root without issues (r10). When I tried to install in r14 to perm root, I encountered a myriad of errors, and decided not to root.
But I just couldn't give up on it....two weeks ago I got food poisoning, which rendered me useless and home bound, I decided to attempt it. I decided to use the rage method, but found that the instructions assumes that you know something about rooting. There are alot of people on this forum that are willing to help (steviewevie was one of them) to get you your through what ever hurdle you encounter.
Personally I found the rooting process very rewarding as I now have less of a vague idea of what is happening in my phone (ie not as lost as before).
Some of the basics:
- Install adb on your pc (not that scary), and read a bot on it...understand what some of the basic commands are trying to do. (see the rooting guide for those commands)
- set your path on your PC to point to the correct directory from where you are pushing (There are a few forums here that will guide you setup by step on how to do this)
-Follow the instructions to the T, and you should be ok.
Click here to go to the thread that these guys helped me while I going through the process. Post #4 makes reference to the path on your pc.
NOTE:This Path should point to the location where you have your adb tools and location of the files you are trying to push to your phone.
Post #17 goes step by step on what you need to do, and how the lines on the terminal should look like.
This is really not that difficult once you get your bearings, and for me it was a lot of fun...actually a little bored with the phone after having done this.

Put (SOLVED) in your thread title please.
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You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary

Lennyuk said:
You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
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Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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ddotpatel said:
Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.

If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.

blackknightavalon said:
If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
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Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. ...
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So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.

Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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Are you sure the corruption didn't stem from an earlier unsuccessful attempt to root with Visionary ?
I've yet to see a thread where someone has done something bad to their phone via rage, all it does is fire up a ton of process to use an exploit which gets you root. That can't corrupt your phone on its own.
Do you have some links ?

ddotpatel said:
So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
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Here you go.

How to put cyanogen with visionary?

Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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As far as i know visionary is not gonna brick your phone ,in regard to changing your rom you also need to s/off your phone, and to do that you need to setup ADB on your computer i suggest you read this posts first ,you will find all the answers you are after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
After you root and s-off your phone you need to setup rom manager so you will get clockworkmod recovery and you can boot in to that and flash a new rom or kernel through there.
and i am not sure about the question you had about the update.
yes you will get su after rooting.

Hwoarang747 said:
Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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Ok, first there are already many threads on this subject, so next time you should try a search first,
for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882546
Next the following links will help walk you thru rooting your phone using visionary r14. I have not had any problems with it, many people have rooted this way. If something goes wrong it is usually operator error. This method is for after the OTA. All needed files and links are in the video instructions.
Visionary has bricked phones before when not properly used, the videos show how to use it properly, use all the same settings in the videos.
This is the visionary method, but works perfectly when done correctly..
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
Also the video "Load a custom rom" will give you a link to flash your first rom. There are a couple of choices to choose from.
Good Luck.
Editlease see post #32 in this thread for a testimony from someone who just followed the videos and rooted his phone.

Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Everyones still waiting on gingerbread, but it looks like Cyanogen is in the lead for releasing it.
Any time you flash a new rom you need to wipe data/cache in recovery. Updates to the same rom a wipe is not needed.
As far as what you want in a rom, my suggestion is to start flashing diffrent roms and give them a try. I thought I didnt like sense but I am currently running a sense rom (Virtuous). So you dont know till you try.

1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1)Show me one brick from someone following the videos I posted and Ill take the links down. Yes a lot of people have bricked using visionary, but thats because they assumed they knew what they were doing when in fact they did not. Visionary causes bricks when not properly used, the videos shows how to use it properly. You must follow all the steps from start to finish including the temp root settings they use in the videos.
2)and yes there is a beta version of gingerbread out CM7 but Cyanogen did not officially release this version, and there are so many bugs in it I hardly think a noob needs to flash CM 7.0.0.

What exactly its the range method?
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Hwoarang747 said:
What exactly its the range method?
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Its Rage method and heres a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage
I recommend you read this thread and make informed desicions, if you know how to use ADB, then this is another method. But if you dont the method I posted above is your other option, it doesn't require the use of ADB.
As far as ADB goes this is something I highly recommend learning, but we all know some people just dont get it. It took me a lot of reading and watching videos to understand ADB. Now that I know how to use ADB its pretty simple, but I remember when I first started with rooting ADB was like reading greek. But I really cant stress enough the importance of learning ADB.

Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.

Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways

Hwoarang747 said:
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
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I used the videos to root my G2, there have been a lot of bricks using Visionary but I have yet to see anyone say they followed the videos to the "T" and it bricked there phone. As for the Rage method, there have been almost no reports of bricks from this method, but I have seen a few bootloops (stuck on the HTC screen). It requires using ADB, so if your ok with ADB use the Rage method, if not, you'll have to weigh the risks based on your own ability. My suggestion, watch the videos, all of them and if its something within your skill range go for it.

Hwoarang747 said:
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Ok, get rooted first then you can worry about kernels, I believe Cyanogen 6.1.1 already comes with an overclocked kernel up to 1.42GHz. So all you have to do is flash CM 6.1.1 his latest release, then down load a cpu controlling app from the market like setcpu(which I use) or cputuner(free) and set the parameters you want your cpu to run at.

Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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It usualy is you can boot in to recovery and wipe and flash another kernal or rom. Just have a look at the links that I posted ,you will get all the answers.
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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Not always hopefully if this happens you have gotten far enough along to put a recovery on your phone, or sometime you can stock recovery factory reset but if those options arn't there guess what you would have to have AndriodSDk installed on your computer with ADB, but you would have to do everything in fastboot mode which is giving commands from your computer to you phone. So it wouldn't be adb because you have to be booted into Andriod to use it, it would be fastboot and run commands similar to ADB, so for this purpose you would have to know how to use ADB. And even then no guarantees. So if you are looking for a guarantee you wont brick your phone there are none, and I wont give you one, these methods have been proven to work if you follow them exactly, mess up and you have a brick.
I know most people dont have $500+ laying around and I know I dont but for me the rewards far outweighed the risk. I just got a pm from another member that followed the videos and guess what he is rooted, he did it today. I asked him to post in this thread with his success story, so hopefully he will.
Here is a quote from him from my PM "it worked! i got so frustrated with adb, i gave it a shot and success!"
Edit: He just posted success his user name is robot_agenda and his post is #32 in this thread.

wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?

Hwoarang747 said:
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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He rooted his phone with visionary following the videos I posted.

and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?

Hwoarang747 said:
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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That has nothing to do with visionary, thats has to do with ClockworkMod recovery, if your phone is powered off and you plug it in to charge it boots into recovery, if you want root you have to deal with this issue untill they fix the bug in clockworkmod recovery. Also the phone shuts off fine unless its pluged in. Everyone with a htc vision phone who is rooted has this issue. as for me I charge my phone while it on so it doesn't bother me.
heres a link to the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884516