Hey everyone, just got my EVO tonight, traded up from my Hero, and was wondering if there is a one-click type root method that you can do using only the phone itself? I am quite familiar with the procedures of rooting and Rom flashing with the Hero but need to know my options now. Only reason I even made this thread over it is because I currently don't have access to a computer so if there is any way to root without one I'd really like to know, thanks in advance.
If this can't be done just say so.
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It can't be done. There was a procedure that allowed you to get root but was incomplete (using the OLD unrevoked app on the phone) and was not really root because it required to use the same exploit on boot (not to mention it did not give you NAND unlock and S-OFF). The easiest method right now is unrevoked 3.21 but it requires a computer to run (as well as the drivers for the device).
Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.
joehunni said:
Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.
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Good but keep in mind that rooting allows you to keep full nandroid backups (images) of your phone, flash custom ROMs (that remove most, if not all, of the Sprint bloatware), use wireless tether at no charge, flash custom kernels and control CPU speeds depending on the status of the phone and even on the fly, take screenshots of the content of the screen at any point in time and so on...
Just teasing.
Oh I know, I came from a Hero that has run every Rom/kernel combo possible. I'm just saying that with the Evo, out of the box, I'm not left wanting. I will still be rooting and becoming a flashamaniac soon enough though.
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First thing first. Let me explain that I'm pretty much an Android novice. I have had the Moment for a few months and never modded it and just recently got the EVO and as of yet have not modded it.
I don't think I have the balls to attempt the "FULL ROOT" but I think I'm willing to try this UnrEVOked method. It seems super simple to install and uninstall. My question to you guys is this: Using this UnrEVOked root what exactly am I getting that I'm not getting from a fresh out of the box stock EVO 4G?
From my limited understanding the only things you can really do is overclock the phone (is this even safe? If so what is the best program and what are the ideal settings?) and also enable tethering (once again, what program would you use?)
Anyone that has UnrEVOked installed on their EVO please give me some insight about this and whether or not you recommend others to try it.
Many thanks in advance!
From what Ive gathered trough complains and other post. It's a temp root. removing apps return after a reboot, no writing to system etc. Pretty useless *from what it seems* SO just take the plunge and do the toast method as it is also needed to run the latest Roms if you intend to do such. Hope that was semi-helpful.
It allows me to run wireless tether and full titanium backup, which is all i wanted to do anyway.
I feel the same way.. unrevoked gave me wifi tether, system panel and Titanium. I may take the plunge when there's a full blown 2.2 rom. Until then, this is all I need.
That overclock app is really an underclock to save battery when in standby. Not sure it even works.
My battery is hanging just fine now that I've made the few tweaks and don't stay on it all day.
SantinoInc said:
First thing first. Let me explain that I'm pretty much an Android novice. I have had the Moment for a few months and never modded it and just recently got the EVO and as of yet have not modded it.
I don't think I have the balls to attempt the "FULL ROOT" but I think I'm willing to try this UnrEVOked method. It seems super simple to install and uninstall. My question to you guys is this: Using this UnrEVOked root what exactly am I getting that I'm not getting from a fresh out of the box stock EVO 4G?
From my limited understanding the only things you can really do is overclock the phone (is this even safe? If so what is the best program and what are the ideal settings?) and also enable tethering (once again, what program would you use?)
Anyone that has UnrEVOked installed on their EVO please give me some insight about this and whether or not you recommend others to try it.
Many thanks in advance!
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UnrEVOked is very simple which was it's purpose.
However it's not REAL root access. Real root gives you ability to flash custom roms that have MANY more features and tweaks that Sprint/HTC can't afford to invest the time/man hours/money in.
With Custom ROMS you get better battery life, more freedom and options to customize what Sprint/HTC shove down our throats.
IF you search the market for the word ROOT. You'll see what you're missing. Most of those apps won't work properly if you don't have real root access.
What is "real root?" having NAND access to flash a custom recovery image and being able to do away with ADB access from your computer and the ability to write to the /system folder.
Imagine being able to delete all that Sprint crap that is taking up space that no one uses. Not even you.
Your choice. It's all worth it. 79,000+ views for Damages ROM can't be wrong.
swebby00 said:
I feel the same way.. unrevoked gave me wifi tether, system panel and Titanium. I may take the plunge when there's a full blown 2.2 rom. Until then, this is all I need.
That overclock app is really an underclock to save battery when in standby. Not sure it even works.
My battery is hanging just fine now that I've made the few tweaks and don't stay on it all day.
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Where can I get wifi tether once I d/l Unrevoked? Also, what is system panel and Titanium?
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I installed 2.0.2 version.
Titanium is a system backup tool.
And system panel is a neat little app that let's you look at your performance. I downloaded it when I did the overclock tool - which is still installed.. but it's debatable on if it's really do anything. So not sure if I can recommend it. But you can try it if you're having battery issues still. I did too many things at once and can't tell what really helped.
Thanks for the help swebby. I'm going to try those programs u recommended.
Do you know if its true that you can get paid apps for free once you install unrEVOked?
Some kid posted a video on utube stating u can d/l free paid apps on 4shared.com. Any truth to this to ur knowledge
I don't know about that site.. and like I said. I'm new to this too. But I think in theory, you can install any .apk file you want, if someone shares it with you. I've pulled several apps like that so far.
But there could be a licensing issue I just don't know about yet. Like some app might require a license file tied to hdw or something. I really don't know.
But, if you can get an apk file, you should be able to in theory install it from your sd card.
In truth tho, most of these apps are only one or two dollars.. and the developers deserve some compensation for their work. So it's one thing to install one to try out.. but if you like it, you should pay for it, donate, etc.
I'm thinkig Unrevoked team. Should I do Unrevoked3 or forever?
Please any ideas? Custom recoveries or ROMs?
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Unreevoked 3 and forever are two totally different things. Foreverr is now obsolete with the release of 3.2.1. I wouldn't use unrevoked because then you have no idea what root is and how to use it. That's my two cents.
I will be using unrevoked 321 tomorrow to root my new evo. My first evo I rooted using simple root.
I disagree with dkdude36. I did it the hard way when the g1 dream first got rooted. The process is academically enlightening but a waste of time really.
Go for the easy root (unrevoked) unless u have a lot of time to spend learning.
I disagree with jdbiggles...
If you understand how to use a terminal (ADB) and know how to type without error, "the long way" doesn't take more than an hour to obtain root access to your evo!
My personal opinion is to get root with ADB. The things you learn will help you in the future.
Root with unrevoked, as it gives you one step nand unlock and everything. However, if you are not willing to learn ADB and the such, do not root your phone at all.
If this is the first time you have ever rooted an android or HTC device I would recommend doing the "long way", not because it is some stupid right of passage, or that I think you are a dumb n00b if you don't, but because I think that it will help you a lot in the future if you ever run into problems. You don't want to be learning about all this stuff with a bricked phone.
My first experience with rooting / custom roms / adb was with a G1, and then with a Nexus one. This time around, I simply used unrevoked, but that is because I already understand how the process works, and just want to get it done. It is kinda like math class, they make you write it out with pencil and paper, and then only way later can you use a calculator, because if you never did it long form, you would have no idea if the calculator was right or wrong, or any clue of where you made a wrong calculation.
If you run into any problems now or in the future with an android device, you will actually be able to at least sort/solve the simple problems, before needing to post here and wait for an answer, and hope someone posts step by step instructions.
Below are questions I posed in another thread. The root question is apropos to this thread. Can someone please provide me with some direction? I don't mind doing the "manual" way.
Thanks.
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1) Is there now a way to use pattern lock only? The Evo still shows the drag down HTC screen lock even when pattern lock is enabled. I have searched all over, have yet to find a solution.
I don't want to run a custom ROM. Will a root give me some ability to disable the drag-down lock?
I also have a Nexus 1. When I enabled the pattern, the regular screen lock is turned off. That is the behavior I'm looking for with the Evo.
2) Root: I want to root to enable all apps to SD, copy files, enable "reboot", etc. I do not care to run a custom ROM. I don't mind having to re-root after an update. I do not want to wipe my phone. I WANT to maintain the ability to receive future OTA updates.
On the N1 platform, there is an easy root method to allow for this. I get Superuser, can run root apps, but still receive OTA and no custom ROM. I'm looking for the same here.
For the Evo, which method whould support this?
I would very much appreciate any help.
Cheers.
Edit: I know what a generic NAND memory is. In this case, why is NAND protection and why does it need to be disabled? What is "S-On/S-Off". I looked through the guides/FAQ, but haven't been able to find anything. Thanks again.
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I have rooted my G1 before the long way. I understand how it works, just wanted to see if there were better teams to get it from? But I think this clear, unrevoked forever.3. 2.1 doesn't work anymore?
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Hey guys... plain and simple, I need help. I'm kind of a noob, but not really. I know a little bit here and there but I want to get good with my Evo, I mean really good! I'm currently browsing XDA in my car (Evolution X) tethered to my Evo 4G. Love Evo's. I'm also on a macbook pro, which makes a lot of the standard rooting options difficult for me, and i'm not running boot camp on my mac, so I don't have windows access.
Anyway, I want a foolproof, safe root. Currently I'm rooted with unrEVOked3. I hear not so great things, especially that full root might not have been attained. I want to confirm this and I don't know how. I don't want to be stuck with a root that might brick me in the future or give me problems down the road. I'm considering unrooting unrevoked and re-rooting with a more solid root method. I know that it doesn't matter the method as long as root is attained in the end but, from what i've read, a lot of people just don't agree with unrevoked method. I'm also concerned about the updates that unrevoked will provide when OTAs come out.
Here are my objectives...
1. Be familiar with the definitions and common terms root users use. For example, I want a clear understanding of recovery mode, HBOOT, bootloader, setcpu, kernels, etc. I know a little bit, but I don't feel comfortable enough to start messing around with flashing roms, changing kernels, etc. I want to be though.
2. I want to be able to flash roms.
3. I want full root and guaranteed SU permissions.
4. Wifi Tether.
5. ability and know how to overclock and underclock depending on the situation i'm in.
I know a lot of you guys will tell me to search and READ READ READ, but i've been doing this since I got me Evo about a month and a half ago. I rooted with unrEVOked3 because on my mac it was a simple download and click.
I downloaded the android-sdk-mac-86 download and I also have ECLIPSE for mac. I know these are app development programs, but will this help me with root and everything from there on?
Does anyone have a link to a site with definitions and explanations or is someone willing to take the time to explain to me these definitions and how they relate to android and effect the phone...
I appreciate you guys helping me. If you're going to tell me to use the search button or read the stickies, please save it, my laptop only has 3 hours of battery and i'm driving cross country and checking the forums while i'm riding shotgun.
Thanks in advance.
my 6th objective is to have all the apps i'll need to monitor and maintain my phone as best as i can.
I know about ROM manager, setcpu (don't have yet), Titanium Backup, and system info.
is there an app that allows me to browse ALL folders on the phone? currently I have ASTRO.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/re...ide-android-terminoligy-lingo.html#post462728
thank you for the link.
They have not updated there root tool to crack the new HBOOT 2.02. Are they done with the EVO and moving on to other newer devices? I have a few friends that just got EVO's and they cant root them now because of the HBOOT version they have. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Josh
Im sure they are working for an easy new root method patience man should be up soon
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forget unrevoked, use this method...it works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Ditto the above recommendation.
... worked for me.
Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
That's weird... Unrevoked couldn't root my phone but I used their Unrevoked forever to do the NAND unlock... I have the 2.02 HBOOT...
yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
luckylui said:
Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
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xlGmanlx said:
yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
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Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol
when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
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Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol
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xlGmanlx said:
when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
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I must admit I am happy as hell as well that I got my phone when I did.... I rooted with Simple Root and have not looked back since. I rooted my phone with Unrevoked 3.21 and honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. All you do is click a button and flawless...
I wish these new guys luck as well, oh well off to flash Caulkins 1.6
I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?
KB112 said:
I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?
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What HBOOT version do you have? Is it below 2.02? That would be the reason unrevoked worked for you.
I loaded the recovery screen and it said HBOOT was 0.94.0000 Does that sound right? I just did everything I saw in a How To video. Downloaded necessary drivers etc and then did everything in order. Worked just fine. Mine didn't exactly look like the walkthrough though. It didn't say Android 1 on my Device Manager it said Android phone and to update the drivers I had to expand the Android Phone selection. Just a few minor things, otherwise it all went smooth.
Ever since I first rooted my Evo back in June or so, I havn't paid much attention to the instructions for rooting. Back then, I went through it using adb and a different RUU, etc. Now, with programs like Unrevoked, it seems like a much easier and faster process.
I'm thinking about taking my phone back to Sprint to get the speaker replaced. I know how to fully UN-root, but just wondering if when I get the phone back home, can I get full root again with nand unlocked just by using something like Unrevoked?
Like I said, I hadn't been paying much attention to rooting, and the last issue I really read about was when (froyo?) first came out and you had to root by using some Adobe program, which seemed like a bit of a hassle.
Unrevoked does it all.
jasongthang said:
I'm thinking about taking my phone back to Sprint to get the speaker replaced. I know how to fully UN-root, but just wondering if when I get the phone back home, can I get full root again with nand unlocked just by using something like Unrevoked?
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Yea, you can. It couldn't be easier.
Unrevoked is so simple!!
Alright, thank you guys very much!
The reason I had asked was, I knew on the Moment, apps like the 1-click root method didnt fully root the phone, so some roms couldn't be flashed properly. Just wondering if that was the case for the Evo also.
jasongthang said:
Alright, thank you guys very much!
The reason I had asked was, I knew on the Moment, apps like the 1-click root method didnt fully root the phone, so some roms couldn't be flashed properly. Just wondering if that was the case for the Evo also.
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Only thing with unrevoked:
1. download hboot drivers
2. install then uninstall htc sync
3. enable usb debugging on your phone
4. all set to go