Alright guys so today is the first time I've had this problem. I'm running warm z twopointtwo 4/7 nightly with chads 12/23. For some odd reason today my phone has been overheating. Now I wasn't able to get an exact temperature read but my guess is somewhere around "way too effing hot" degrees Fahrenheit. I say this because my phone actually got so warm today I almost couldn't touch the screen. I was seriously expecting thermonuclear meltdown! I pulled my battery and let it cool off and all was fine but still it worries me. I wasn't even doing any intense processing. I was only using the xda app and reading some threads. Throughout the day it hasn't got quite that hot but its been running noticeably warmer than usual. My battery also seems to be dieing slightly faster than usual. Now my phone is a certified refurbished less than a month old so I can't imagine this being a matter of my battery starting to die.....so anyone have any input on what could be causing this? Could it be Rom if kernel related?
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I've tried that rom/kernel combo and it worked for me. Are you using a non OEM battery?
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Nope I have the original battery still in it and everything....I mean it works beautifully outside of a few occasional hiccups here and there but nothing that isn't to be expected.....but the heat problem never happened to me before.....I mean trust me I used to have a crazy overclocked Eris that loved to get hot but never this hot. And I haven't even overclocked my dinc yet....its just kinda odd it was a one time thing but it was almost too hot to touch. It spooked me I legitimately feel like I was very close to processor meltdown.....
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Any one else with suggestions?
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Any one else with suggestions?
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Well you are using a "warm" ROM
Just messing with you. I'm running Warm-Z too but Chad's 12/23 kernel won't boot for me so I usually use Lou's #4 or #8, and with them I don't feel heat issues unless I'm charging. I'd say switch kernels. As long as it's a Sense kernel.
Well like I've never flashed kernels before....I'm sure I could figure it out....but none the less this isn't a frequent problem.....that's the only time its happened. I was actually in an area that was in and out of service though.....does bouncing around in service while trying to use 3g require a lot of processing? I can't imagine it would....mebbe the heat came from my cell receiver 0.o
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Yeah looking for a signal is apparently pretty battery draining. Still not really sure about the heat issue though.
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Well I mean if its battery draining that would mean more current through the phone for the battery to drain more rapidly. More current translates into heat in any application. But still the level of heat that was coming out of it was crazy. And I could actually watch my battery decrease fast as hell
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Well like I've never flashed kernels before....I'm sure I could figure it out....but none the less this isn't a frequent problem.....that's the only time its happened. I was actually in an area that was in and out of service though.....does bouncing around in service while trying to use 3g require a lot of processing? I can't imagine it would....mebbe the heat came from my cell receiver 0.o
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Well, I'll give you the link to Lou's #4, and that's a pretty basic kernel. Really it's like flashing a ROM. You go inside your recovery, and ONLY wipe CACHE and Dalvik-Cache. Then flash the Kernel's zip. Then reboot!
NANDROID BACKUP! Don't forget!
http://www11.multiupload.com:81/files/BCC9A4CF564FCD6E43DDCEC3E4B4D52FBF10DC74A273EF7DB02C5E462D59EFF615166EE3DEE6D304147248885EEE774EBE0DD0B2224F63EDDF177E36CABFD49A3521C5EA5A60AB0DF9E77E94833DCB/HeyItsLou_Custom_Sense_Kernel_4_FINAL.zip
What are the real advantages of me flashing this kernel over my current one? Like I don't think it'll help the problems with heat. I'm still interested in that on a side note though. Does it have havs? Cause I hate the fact that I lose ten percent in five minutes after unplug
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What are the real advantages of me flashing this kernel over my current one? Like I don't think it'll help the problems with heat. I'm still interested in that on a side note though. Does it have havs? Cause I hate the fact that I lose ten percent in five minutes after unplug
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Some kernels are just better for your phone, and some aren't. I took the time to find a kernel with HAVS that I've used in the past.
http://www.ziggy471.com/downloads/Ziggy471Kernel-INC-update_signed.zip
This should work fine. Ziggy's a pro.
Will that be compatible with warm z? Like I said I'm not familiar with which roms work with which kernels? And while were at it what the eff is bfs? I think I know what the acronym stands for though I'm not sure.....but I have no idea what bfs and cfs are.
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Skip the kernel, update your Rom. Lol.
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So back to topic with this thread....anyone think that my judgement is right with rating the heat was due to he battery drain occurring due to signal jumping?
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I think it could be the cause of the battery drain but it doesn't seem like it should cause overheating although I could be wrong. Have you had the issue since then or was it just when you were having trouble getting a signal? BFS-Brain **** Scheduler. Linux stuff.
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So back to topic with this thread....anyone think that my judgement is right with rating the heat was due to he battery drain occurring due to signal jumping?
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Possibly. Let me explain.
I'm currently running rooted 2.2 and if mine searched for signal, battery gets warm.....really warm. I flashed the radio to 11.19 (Evo) and so far, knocking on wood, my signal search issue has gone away and GPS seems to lock on instantly. I'm also using the 1800 battery from htcexpress dot com.
The only other time my phone got so hot that the amber light started flashing was in the car, charging, running GPS and streaming music at the same time. Battery temp according to my a battery app was 128 degrees F.
128 f isn't too bad....my Orange light didn't even blink that's the thing and i didn't have an app to tell me the exact temp. However I know that if through the entire case my phone is almost too hot to hold then its probably pretty close to processor melt....and that's another good point.....wtf didn't my light blink? It should have but didn't.....hmmm.....but none the less @k_nive if you agree about signal drop causing battery drain then wouldn't my above post make sense? Yanno, more battery drain = more current and more current = more generated heat due to small energy loss through the wires because of total conservation of energy without the phone following total conservation principles? Aka the phone isn't efficient enough to use all the energy supplied to it so it gives off any excess in the form of heat? And thanks about the bfs info!
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And on a side note. I read up on bfs. I get it....kinda. I understand the point but what scheduler is used in chads 12/23? And what are the real advantages if bfs for us Android users over any other scheduler?
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It does make sense I suppose. Its just something I haven't run into before so its hard to say for sure one way or the other but the increased battery drain could definitely result in more heat especially if you were using GPS or streaming music at the time.
Perhaps your phone didn't hit the temperature that triggers the flashing led? The phone can feel pretty warm without actually being too hot. I would get a battery widget that lets you monitor temp that way you have a more accurate picture of what's going on. As far as Chad's 12/23 kernel, I think it uses cfs as opposed to bfs but I'm not sure, I'd have to check the thread. As I understand it bfs ramps up the processor more for specific apps/processes while cfs is a more balanced scheduler. I don't know much about the differences so feel free to jump in and clarify things!
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Grrr.....so I thought that the battery temp problem was gone but Damn it if it ain't acting up again.....this time even more odd....the phone was not nearly as hot to the touch and yet my led started blinking the too hot code at me.....so wtf? Like before I almost melt the effing board and I don't get a single blink. This time its slightly warm and I start blinking. My phones losing its mind. I just got juice defender and a battery monitor widget to try and figure out wtf is up.....any more input very welcome!
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I have a buddy with a droid x that gets RIDICULOUS battery life. What is it that causes such a difference in endurance? I mean most of the other specs basically match up... Is it htc related? Can I get "droid-like" battery life somehow? I'm on fresh 3.3 with netarchy 4.1.9.1 bfs
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I have a buddy with a droid x that gets RIDICULOUS battery life. What is it that causes such a difference in endurance? I mean most of the other specs basically match up... Is it htc related? Can I get "droid-like" battery life somehow? I'm on fresh 3.3 with netarchy 4.1.9.1 bfs
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I havent played much with the DroidX but from what I have read it has a power profile managment on it much like a laptop . I believe that is the part Motorola put in the phone . Profiles like LONGER BATTERY LIFE , or MORE PERFORMANCE . Something Im kinda surprised the EVO wasnt given but I make it thorugh the day on one charge
Are you rooted?
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Please keep in mind the apps you downloaded and the widgets you have set-up on your screens. Some apps require to be run in the background eventhough they are NOT used by you at the time, such as Google Talk, Qik, Fring, pedometer, and anything that needs to be "ON"...thats one of the culprit on battery drain you might want to look into.
Having one widget per homescreen is ideal, in my opinion..and learned that by having multiple widgets in one screen, is another culprit in battery drain due to it requiring to work upfront, for example, Facebook widget needs to be on constantly and updated for as long as that widget is there, regardless if you touched/used it or not.
Now, for the MOST OBVIOUS part...turning off GPS, WiFi, 4G, and bs when you DON'T need them, by following hot sexy COMMON SENSE, you should get AT LEAST 3 hours more on your battery. Pure sexy common sense LOL ;-)
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Now, for the MOST OBVIOUS part...turning off GPS, WiFi, 4G, and bs when you DON'T need them, by following hot sexy COMMON SENSE, you should get AT LEAST 3 hours more on your battery. Pure sexy common sense LOL ;-)
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Greetings,
I couldn't agree more with all the things you noted in your reply.
I rooted mine, and deleted many apps I don't use, but insisted on starting up
even if I had already killed them in the manage applications section.
But I was amazed at how short the life was in spite of having done that. I quickly
discovered (as you noted) that keeping 4G on, drains the batt.
In fact, for me anyway, it really drains the batt!
Just thought I'd mention it, because it was really surprising to me just how bad
an affect on the battery 4G was - bummer.
--Chris
Mine usually gets between 36-55 hours on a charge (record is 58 so far) with about 3-5 hours of "use" on the stock battery. I don't use it to play games or watch movies, just phone, internet, email, etc - widgets all over the place. Gmail push is always on as well. In fact, I unplugged it last at 10:50pm on the 28th (34 hours ago) and I'm at 48% still.
The biggest thing I've found is download setCPU and adjust the CPU frequency to 245 MHz when the screen is off. That saves a lot. Other then that I keep it at 998 MHz (max speed) all other times. I am playing around with tasker and turning airplane mode on while I sleep, but that seems to have a minimal effect, saving around 2% over 8 hours. I use tasker to turn GPS off unless I'm using one of my GPS-enabled programs, although that doesn't seem to do much either.
I'm running just a basic sense rom with a stock kernel, nothing special. rooted with clockworkmod and that's all I've done rom/kernel-wise.
If you actually use your phone a lot I'm not sure there's much you can do besides get a bigger battery. If you just use it mostly as a phone and less as a PMP or gaming device you should be able to get some nice results.
EDIT: Oh yea, and don't use a task killer (I don't). From what I've read those can actually cause the phone to consume MORE power as services are being killed and opened constantly. Android is very good about leaving tasks open in the background without them consuming power. Opening and closing them constantly is another story.
I wish I could figure this out too. I've been switching between a ton of kernels and roms and can't seem to find anything with good battery life. My phones been unplugged for about 2 1/2 hours and I'm at 53% battery life. No widgets running and just average usage.
Running virusrom and kings #9 and a lot of other roms and battery life is a joke.
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So far, the best battery combo I've found is fresh 3.2 with it's stock rom and I returned to it last night. Some say 3.3 is as good or better but I can't seem to get those same results...
But my real question is, why is the droid able to get such great life?
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My phone stays basically plugged in while I'm at work I'm running fresh 3.3 and kings#9 I thought they are suppose to get decent life but not mine I even have it underclocked oh well I guess thank god for car chargers and extension cords lol
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What I have found to help most of all is to NOT use the Mail app - it drains the battery like crazy, especially if you are popping several accounts. Instead, use the gmail client and set it up to pop your other accounts, and push them to you. This literally trippled my battery life. And it is way faster than the 15 minute intervals that the mail app gives you. Give it a shot, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Hi I've been looking around to find good kernals while running cyanogen mod 7 rc4. Some of the kernals I install like netatchy gives the screen a weird flickering. Can someone suggest a good kernal that's overclockable and stable. Thanks
Netarcys kernel really isn't for cm7 that's probably why its flickering. You should try savage zens latest sbc or non sbc kernel or tiamats sbc kernel both are pretty good. I'm running the tiamat sbc 3.3.4(great battery life) and I'm pretty happy with it.
Tiamat link. Be sure to get the evo version because he does kernels for the incredible also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746
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Thanks! Ill try them and I'm kinda new to kernals so what is the difference between SBC and no SBC
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Thanks! Ill try them and I'm kinda new to kernals so what is the difference between SBC and no SBC
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In a nutshell, sbc is a method of charging that allows you to "fully"(trickle) charge your battery. Normal kernels really only let you charge to about 90% for safety measures; while sbc lets you fully charge letting your battery completely fill. There's a few threads that talk about it if you search around to get more "details". I've been using them for months without any problems whatsoever. Good luck
Honestly I get great performance out of the stock kernel.
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Thanks, I just flashed the tiamat 3.3.4 SBC and everything so far is great! Btw I couldn't find it in the changelog but does this fix 4g cuz on stock kernal both the 3g icon and 4g icon show
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It's called a kernel.
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Thanks, I just flashed the tiamat 3.3.4 SBC and everything so far is great! Btw I couldn't find it in the changelog but does this fix 4g cuz on stock kernal both the 3g icon and 4g icon show
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That happens to me sometimes but not all the time. I believe that's still a problem with cm7 in general though. For best results I recommended going to settings/ cyanogenmod settings/ performance/CPU settings then use the "smart ass" governor. It has provided me with the best overall battery/performance. I also have my min freq at 245 and max freq at 1152.
Those are also my settings, I've discovered my evo can't go beyond 1.15ghz without locking up. I've been trying to get to 1.2 but no go
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Those are also my settings, I've discovered my evo can't go beyond 1.15ghz without locking up. I've been trying to get to 1.2 but no go
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Ahh neither can mine its reboot nation once I pass up 1190mhz.
Yeah wish i was a lucky one :/, so after installing kernels I'm getting 41.2 mflops and my quadrant benchmark is 1221
What are you getting?
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Yeah wish i was a lucky one :/, so after installing kernels I'm getting 41.2 mflops and my quadrant benchmark is 1221
What are you getting?
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I don't really put so much stock in scores anymore they don't mean anything to be honest. Dirk used to be a score whore but I just removed the apps so I wouldn't worry about it anymore. I came to terms that my scores won't go much higher then what they already were. Just ran 40 mflops and 1220 bench.
Yeah I just like the braging rights, hopefully they can figure how to overclock the gpu soon tho
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Yeah I just like the braging rights, hopefully they can figure how to overclock the gpu soon tho
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Bragging rights how's this for bragging rights; my 12 year old cousin has a tmobile g2(newer processor) which is stock clocked at only 800mhz. His phone scores a 60 on linpack and over 1500 on benchmark and its not even rooted lol. This is why I don't care about scores anymore
I just died a little inside :/ lol I wanna upgrade to the evo 3d soon tho and that's a dual core
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In a nutshell, sbc is a method of charging that allows you to "fully"(trickle) charge your battery. Normal kernels really only let you charge to about 90% for safety measures; while sbc lets you fully charge letting your battery completely fill. There's a few threads that talk about it if you search around to get more "details". I've been using them for months without any problems whatsoever. Good luck
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I just wanna correct this misconception because it led me astray and it took a good amount of research to realize this was wrong.
All kernels will charge the phone to 100%. That's not an issue. What happens is, once they are charged to 100%, they start draining battery again, and coupled with the fact that li-ions inherently lose charge over time, and the fact that most people haven't conditioned their battery's memory by properly charging it, by the time you pull your phone off the charger it's already lost that 10% (give or take).
Trickle charging hopes to fix this by "trickling" a small charge into the battery constantly once it hits 100%, to compensate for discharge, so that it stays at 100%. The problem with this is, it pushes a current through the battery constantly, and that tends to shorten the life of lithium-ion batteries over time. You may get better immediate battery life off the charger, but you'll kill your battery quicker. Come months from now, your battery life isn't going to be what it should, whether you notice it or not.
If you want to minimize the discharge, you can take a couple safer steps:
- Condition your battery. Charge it to a true 100%. This will mean turning the phone off and on a few times while it's on the charger to make sure it's actually at 100%. Then completely discharge it until the phone cannot turn back on. Do this a couple times in a row, and repeat every month or so. This conditions your li-ion battery's internal charging memory so it knows its true charge potential.
- Charge your phone while it's off. It won't drain nearly as much battery this way, so when you're ready to take it off the charger it'll be much fresher.
- Avoid prolonged charging and continuous charging, because it can confuse the li-ion's internal charging memory. Rather than re-charging it when it hits 60%, let it drain as low as possible before you bother recharging it. Bursts of short charges don't harm the battery, but they make it "forget" how much it can be charged.
In short, SBC kernels are bad for your battery.
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Also, Savaged-Zen 1.0.1 BFS no-SBC has been the best kernel I've found for the Evo 4G. Granted I haven't had this thing that long and there may be another gem lying around somewhere, but given the popularity of SZ, I doubt it. It's a very good, smooth kernel. It's giving me the best performance of what I've tried (most of the popular ones).
As for CFS vs BFS, flip a coin. Some will swear CFS is smoother, others will swear BFS is supposed to be smoother. BFS gives me more responsiveness personally, but I think it mostly depends on your workload. I keep scarcely-used tasks killed and I don't use widgets, so the lack of many processes may be what makes BFS better for me. Try both and see which feels smoother in daily use.
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I just wanna correct this misconception because it led me astray and it took a good amount of research to realize this was wrong.
All kernels will charge the phone to 100%. That's not an issue. What happens is, once they are charged to 100%, they start draining battery again, and coupled with the fact that li-ions inherently lose charge over time, and the fact that most people haven't conditioned their battery's memory by properly charging it, by the time you pull your phone off the charger it's already lost that 10% (give or take).
Trickle charging hopes to fix this by "trickling" a small charge into the battery constantly once it hits 100%, to compensate for discharge, so that it stays at 100%. The problem with this is, it pushes a current through the battery constantly, and that tends to shorten the life of lithium-ion batteries over time. You may get better immediate battery life off the charger, but you'll kill your battery quicker. Come months from now, your battery life isn't going to be what it should, whether you notice it or not.
If you want to minimize the discharge, you can take a couple safer steps:
- Condition your battery. Charge it to a true 100%. This will mean turning the phone off and on a few times while it's on the charger to make sure it's actually at 100%. Then completely discharge it until the phone cannot turn back on. Do this a couple times in a row, and repeat every month or so. This conditions your li-ion battery's internal charging memory so it knows its true charge potential.
- Charge your phone while it's off. It won't drain nearly as much battery this way, so when you're ready to take it off the charger it'll be much fresher.
- Avoid prolonged charging and continuous charging, because it can confuse the li-ion's internal charging memory. Rather than re-charging it when it hits 60%, let it drain as low as possible before you bother recharging it. Bursts of short charges don't harm the battery, but they make it "forget" how much it can be charged.
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What he said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
Thanks for all the info! I'm just gonna try SBC for a month then try non SBC for a month and see witch I would prefer better. Also for the Zen kernels do they break anything that's not already working? And would they give better 3d performance then the tiamats kernel?
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Thanks for all the info! I'm just gonna try SBC for a month then try non SBC for a month and see witch I would prefer better. Also for the Zen kernels do they break anything that's not already working? And would they give better 3d performance then the tiamats kernel?
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That's a great plan man. I visited the savage zen kernel thread earlier and some are complaing about their newest build causing charging issues or something along with 100% wake time idk. If you give it a shot use their 1.0.0 instead of the 1.0.1. Just give the kernels about a week and see how well they hold up. Its mainly about personal preference(sbc or non sbc) I'm actually testing the tiamat sbc but I was previously on savage zen. I like to give all kernels a chance(1 or 2 weeks) to see how well my phone performs with them.
Ok well ill just wait till Friday to install a new one then and see how the Zen works out
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Hey guys, I had my phone for no more than an hour. Rooted and flashed cm10. Phone seems to get warm like 100 degrees f. And that's not using data or WiFi.
I had stock on for a little and noticed the same thing, is my phone jacked or is this normal? I have warranty so if none of you guys experience this I'll take it in. I just don't think it's too healthy for the device...
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My phone gets pretty hot sometimes too, but only during heavy usage and multitasking. If you're finding that it's heating up when you're just browsing the web or installing apps, try using another kernel. I recommend Lean Kernel with CM10
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My phone gets pretty hot sometimes too, but only during heavy usage and multitasking. If you're finding that it's heating up when you're just browsing the web or installing apps, try using another kernel. I recommend Lean Kernel with CM10
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Yeah but I was wondering if it gets hot on stock for people. Cause it did for me.
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Yup it can definitely do thst. I just consider it pretty normal at this point and dont pay it much mind anymore when it does warm up.
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Yup it can definitely do thst. I just consider it pretty normal at this point and dont pay it much mind anymore when it does warm up.
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It bothers me cause I want this phone to last the entire 2 years if not more
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Very normal for me. Light use it can get warm. The phone bring made out the plastic (or whatever it is) and super thin doesn't help either.
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Very normal for me. Light use it can get warm. The phone bring made out the plastic (or whatever it is) and super thin doesn't help either.
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Im tempted to take alluminum foil and place the shiny side facing away from the device under neath the battery cover to attempt to wick away the heat -.-
Yea its normal. Let's not forget the back cover is really thin compared to other phones. To me it makes it seem a lot hotter than it really is.
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Yea its normal. Let's not forget the back cover is really thin compared to other phones. To me it makes it seem a lot hotter than it really is.
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My s2 barely gets hot :/ and thats with no back cover on just a case. but the battery temps are much lower as well on the S2. usually around upper 70s to lower 80s degrees farenheit under normal load.
yeah
my phone does the same it sometimes does the same it gets hot on the bottom back part
Personally I believe it can be rom/kernel related too. Usually it doesn't get really warm for me except under load. But with the latest leak, if im using it at all, it just stays warm. When I was first using it this morn it actually got pretty hot and when charging got even hotter. I let it cool and hasn't been that hot since.
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Mine use to get a lil warm too under heavy usage,until i flashed Faux kernel(<<THIS KERNEL SUPPORT UNDERVOLTING) on sonic Gs3 rom & then i used system tuner to undervolt cpu further(yes undervolt not underclock) although i am running at default clock speed with conservative & cfq settings.Since then my phone runs pretty cool even on heavy usage.I heard the default voltage are sometimes higher than what is needed which may increase phone temperature faster,My battery life is even better now than it already was on Gs3 rom, KEEP IN MIND YOU MUST RUN A CPU STRESSED TEST IN THE SET CPU APP WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR PHONE VOLTAGE SETTING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ERROR,RANDOM REBOOTS,BOOT LOOP,LAG OR JUST A LIL SLUGGISHNESS BECAUSE YOU UNDERVOLT TOO LOW & KEEP IN MIND NOT ALL CHIPS ARE CREATED EQUAL,So my settings may only be stable of my phone,you may have to take that risk & experiment around.
I attached screenshots of my personal undervolt in system tuner & also a screenshot of default voltage of I9300 variant but i figure.
check the option to use settings on boot in System tuner or you will have to keep setting it on each reboot
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Mine use to get a lil warm too under heavy usage,until i flashed Faux kernel(<<THIS KERNEL SUPPORT UNDERVOLTING) on sonic Gs3 rom & then i used system tuner to undervolt cpu further(yes undervolt not underclock) although i am running at default clock speed with conservative & cfq settings.Since then my phone runs pretty cool even on heavy usage.I heard the default voltage are sometimes higher than what is needed which may increase phone temperature faster,My battery life is even better now than it already was on Gs3 rom, KEEP IN MIND YOU MUST RUN A CPU STRESSED TEST IN THE SET CPU APP WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR PHONE VOLTAGE SETTING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ERROR,RANDOM REBOOTS,BOOT LOOP,LAG OR JUST A LIL SLUGGISHNESS BECAUSE YOU UNDERVOLT TOO LOW & KEEP IN MIND NOT ALL CHIPS ARE CREATED EQUAL,So my settings may only be stable of my phone,you may have to take that risk & experiment around.
I attached screenshots of my personal undervolt in system tuner & also a screenshot of default voltage of I9300 variant but i figure.
check the option to use settings on boot in System tuner or you will have to keep setting it on each reboot
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Well in my life of hacking phones, under/overvolting seriously reduces life of the CPU.. i dont quite feel comfortable undervolting my brand new galaxy s3. lol. Unless someone can provide scientific evidence to undervolting not causeing long term harm to my CPU.
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Well in my life of hacking phones, under/overvolting seriously reduces life of the CPU.. i dont quite feel comfortable undervolting my brand new galaxy s3. lol. Unless someone can provide scientific evidence to undervolting not causeing long term harm to my CPU.
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No reason to undervolt or overclock this hardware. Overclocking became irrelevant when dual cores came out. Undervolting was never relevant. People do it because they like to play around with their hardware, which I understand, though I've always been more interested in software myself.
What are you doing when the phone gets warm?
Mine seems to get hot as the battery gets low (not even on the charger).
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What are you doing when the phone gets warm?
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Simply moving files around.
But after a two hour phone call while being plugged in I'm only at 93 degrees. So that's not too shabby
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So over in a Development thread I mentioned that I use Juice Defender Ultimate still, I got some heat for it because it's old.
What's new that I should be using instead? Running CM10 11/30 Nightly that I v6 Supercharged (Die-Hard, so I don't think Tasker will work).
I don't need anything to sync or notify me when it's in my pocket, just calls/texts via radio. I also already use CPU Sleeper and it's locked in memory via v6 bulletproof.
My goal is to make the most out of my battery.
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So over in a Development thread I mentioned that I use Juice Defender Ultimate still, I got some heat for it because it's old.
What's new that I should be using instead? Running CM10 11/30 Nightly that I v6 Supercharged (Die-Hard, so I don't think Tasker will work).
I don't need anything to sync or notify me when it's in my pocket, just calls/texts via radio. I also already use CPU Sleeper and it's locked in memory via v6 bulletproof.
My goal is to make the most out of my battery.
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not sure exactly. i used to use green power battery. these data killing apps used to work miracles on gb and froyo. but nowadays i think the main battery killers are the hefty processors. i now focus on kernels and governors and whatnot to save battery. i think killing data will help if it stays off most frequently. when you have the settings to turn on data as soon as the screen turns on, the device is toggling data and constantly searching for signal, maybe even killing more battery than saving.. idk thats just my opinion. and on the other hand.. if your not really using your phone so much i think it would save more in the long run. i would just test it yourself and see what works
Only thing that will improve the battery is a new phone .
I've tried everything. The best result has been ditching AOSP and going back to TW. It might not be fancy schmancy, but it functions and has marginally better battery life (at least in my experience).
Good luck on your quest. I'll probably keep my eye on this thread to see if there are any new suggestions (but not very optimistic).
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Over on the atrix 2 forum there is a thread named basics for better battery life...
Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839305
[GUIDE] Basics For A Better Battery
Read thru it if u wish., maybe it helps
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not sure exactly. i used to use green power battery. these data killing apps used to work miracles on gb and froyo. but nowadays i think the main battery killers are the hefty processors. i now focus on kernels and governors and whatnot to save battery. i think killing data will help if it stays off most frequently. when you have the settings to turn on data as soon as the screen turns on, the device is toggling data and constantly searching for signal, maybe even killing more battery than saving.. idk thats just my opinion. and on the other hand.. if your not really using your phone so much i think it would save more in the long run. i would just test it yourself and see what works
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I unistalled JD and set a CPU profile to reduce clock speed on lock, testing for wakelocks now as well.
Anyone know best governor/scheduler combo for battery on CM10 while still keeping it buttery? Im using OnDemand/Deadline for a few minutes and it has not dropped yet.
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I unistalled JD and set a CPU profile to reduce clock speed on lock, testing for wakelocks now as well.
Anyone know best governor/scheduler combo for battery on CM10 while still keeping it buttery? Im using OnDemand/Deadline for a few minutes and it has not dropped yet.
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Sorry but no one can say for sure whats a rock solid combo. I suggest you try them all like I have to see what works best for you. After trying everything I came back to Ondemand and felt it gave me the best results but thats me.
Good app to try is Llama and its free and does all JD stuff and more
to add, regardless of what kernel i use sometimes the processor will climb to unnecessarily high frequencies when the screen is off. to tame it a little more use setcpu and enable profiles. my profile, when the screen is off, is min 384 max 540 and conservative/noop. then when the screen wakes, interactive/noop 384/1512. but im sure most of you already know this. cpu sleeper will do the trick too. beware of wake lag
Stock battery?
I've got the Anker 2200Mah running CM10 with HC kernel and have gotten 12 hr on time with 5hr screen time.
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Stock battery?
I've got the Anker 2200Mah running CM10 with HC kernel and have gotten 12 hr on time with 5hr screen time.
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I'm using the same Anket battery. I followed everyone's advice, ditched JD and made a SetCPU profile.
I think it was Google Music draining my battery so bad. It's absolutely amazing now.
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I no longer use Juice Defender and, for me and my set up, JD did not have noticeable impact.
Nor did more complex strategies using Llama.
The ROMs, governors, CPU settings, and tweaks seem to be where it's at.
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I no longer use Juice Defender and, for me and my set up, JD did not have noticeable impact.
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I have found that to be the case with every such app I've tried. The best results I've always had have come from removing apps that I don't need or use. I can get thru a full 8 hr shift, so I'm happy.
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3 to 4 hour screen time here and gsam currently has me at 1 day 5 hour battery life average. without juice defender. I got rid of it when I saw it was waking my phone 150 times a day.
According to my dash clock widget and my toasted face, my battery reaches some super high temps. Just hit 131° F. Which has prompted me to post this since this is the hottest I have seen or felt.
Does this usually point to a battery issue, I know the galaxy s2 I had was prone to battery issues. Or possible hardware issue?
Thanks everyone for your thoughts!
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Yup. As soon as I plug in the charger it goes up to about 104°. After 30 secs or so of use, its above 120° and stops charging due to overheating. This has just started happening as of late. Happens on both my stock and extended batteries.
Any ideas?
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Some ROMs run very hot for some reason. Are you on Carbon? It seems to be the king of white-hot temperatures. Under clocking and undervolting should ease the heat a little bit, but I'm not sure what else you can do.
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Some ROMs run very hot for some reason. Are you on Carbon? It seems to be the king of white-hot temperatures. Under clocking and undervolting should ease the heat a little bit, but I'm not sure what else you can do.
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thats really interesting...And Carbon Rom is the only 4.2.2 that hasnt been buggy for me.
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I noticed that AOKP with all stock settings tends to run a bit hot for my GNex. I've tried Paranoid & XenonHD, both run a bit better temperature wise
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maybe kernel problem.
flash other kernel (fancy), wipe cache-dalvik and fix permissions.
with fancy kernel; charger in deep sleep battery:80° F, cpu 90° F. hardcore(benchmark) battery:95° F, cpu:120° F.
with ak kernel cpu:160° F and battery:120° F
For me the stock rom and aospa have been the coolest literally with AK you can set up the kernel in any way you like speed demon that eats thru batt. and runs hot OR cool and smooth thats easy on the batt. and temp.
You should check with another batt. :-S it might be possible that your batt. is borked