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My god its been a while since i was here!!.... Been so busy my phone stopped having its Roms changed more than my underware and became simply my phone..... BUT now iv forgotten how to do this shiz and i feel so incredibly lost on here and my BIG problem and the reason why i came back
.......Apple iphone white is making me so excited i think a little bit of wee came out! it looks nice and its SO much faster then my Artemis BUT i love my Artemis but i want an iphone ARRRRRG!!!..... i know... Ill go on XdaDev and see if thoes clever F***ERS have been able to make it Run any faster. im using Artemis Touch 4.01 Full with cube and im also using Ultimate launch wich is making thigs quite laggy any ideas of how i can rekindle my love for my phone?
...more or less the same here: since changing to tomtom 7 my orig. htc rom is a bit sluggish!
i am back to the good old days with meschle: vanilla 4.01!!! changed radio to Artemis 2.98.90 gsm radio though, since all the new cooks dont seem to know about the downs of porting radio roms from other machines to the artemis!
its been a while back too, when we found the battery drain on most cooked roms resulting from any version above the mentioned radio! 2.98.90 is the last released for artemis- often other versions result in a constant polling for radio-signal, thus draining battery enormously--and spreading more radiation than needed.
greetz
Strange, don't need anything faster for my P3300, i use gsm,gps,wifi and no delays at all.
I have YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE rom and installed a lot of extra's on the storage card.
TomTom is not so spectacular anymore (graphicwise), i use IGO8 (3D buildings) and rom fast enough (standard 201MHZ).
You can always tweak it up with batterystatus to 247mhz but what goes slow?
What do you do with your Artemis, video or graphic processing ???
Please note that faster processorsettings = faster battery drain.
In past i had Qtek 2020i & Eten G500 (both +-400 a 500mhz) but don't miss the speed...
Don't follow the hype, Artemis is best price/quality all in one at the moment.
At least we have a mini-sd extension slot and gps, that's a minimum
If you want an iphone for the 3D interface, install htc rom with 3D Cube & set to 247mhz.
The Iphone layout gets boring with the icon startup screen is not so 'funky' as the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamondskin & Samuraiweather on our Artemis
You can install also an iphone skin, iphone s2u2, ... ringtone,... so that it looks the same softwarewise, but it's not so spectacular as you might expect...
Be individual, install your own rom, todayskin, programs and make a backup of your own perfect setup is the message !
Innovator said:
YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE rom and installed a lot of extra's on the storage card.
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Between YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE and Vanilla 4.02, which one is better ?
No idea, i took Yue's cause it was a newer version, and if i'm not mistaken it had less pre-installed stuff. I want to start from scratch with the lightest rom and install SPB Mobile Shell, and all other tools I like, no unescessary stuff to save program memory & ram. I did install the latest RADIO for best battery/consumption settings...
In past i used the 4.02 from Meschle & tested the Oops black, but don't like the HTC Home plugin and the diamond-plugin... SPB Mobile Shell with diamond skin 2.1 is really the coolest
Yue's extraclean should be the lightest, but i didn't get it too work, cannot flash it through windows cause romsize lower than normal.
SDHC Card flashing is not possible (tried it with an SD also but no succes). But i'm satisfied with my current rom for a long time.
Innovator said:
SDHC Card flashing is not possible (tried it with an SD also but no succes). But i'm satisfied with my current rom for a long time.
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try the following in order to get sd card flashing to work:
run uspl!!!!
than:
quoted from ...."i dont remember"
"1) install WM5torage in your pda
2) start the program
3) deselect all voices in the panel (expecially Removable Class)
4) connect your pda with PC via USB
In this way windows read the SecureDigital as a fisical disk, so you can create, resize and delete partitions
5) in your PC right-click on Computer, then select Manage
6) Select Disk Manager and then delete existent partition
7) create a new partition with max size 256MB
8) format this partition in FAT32
Now your SD is ready to be used for flash!!!"
Thing that made me drop YuE_WM6.1_v4.4 is that friggin` russion stuff.
yeah, u can change dialer and pads, but it keeps contacts search in russian
apart from that, my original htc wm6.0 rom was definately not the choice for tomtom7 somehow it felt... sluggish!
both YuE_WM6.1_v4.4 and vanilla 4.01 ( my all-time classic from the good old days!!!) both do the job quite zippy--so i agree: stay with the artemis, forget about yuppie-style ipone!
greetz
oh I just known that vanilla 4.01 and 4.02 use the same OS built. I uploaded vanilla 4.01 in the collection topic. I hate diamond black skin black GUI on 4.02 but now I finished setup all my programs and lazy to go back 4.01
Specialist ROM cookers never make clean ROM. It's hard to upgrade builtin 3rd party softwares in the future. Not everyone install new ROM every month. We want to install one ROM and forgot it. Use it 2- 5 years without hardreset.
If I am ROM cooker, I will make clean ROM and the optional all-in-one.cab. An optional All-in-one.cab can install in one click later. These can be easy upgrade or uninstall in the future.
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If I am ROM cooker, I will make clean ROM and the optional all-in-one.cab. An optional All-in-one.cab can install in one click later. These can be easy upgrade or uninstall in the future.
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nice idea! just to let you know on that matter: all pdaviet roms are missing a vital part, this makes it impossible to re-cook them!
greetz
Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
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Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
i was about to go sleep i then i got in my opinoin a great idea and here it is
i was thinking about a theard in which all uptodate rom in ultra light and full tweakt in diffrent languages and a cab colection are avaible
and the xda developers user can download the language he want and choose the applications(attenched cab files) to mix his personal rom
everyone who uses a coocked rom knows what im talkin about the rom has allways an app the user dont really want
and with this theard this problem can be terminated
Good Idea!
But It must be with UC And all Cab collection must be inside on Internal Storage...
So you delete unwanted cabs from _Install directory and you run it...
Also Will be good to Get from start 140mb free ROM memory and 114 RAM
The closest thing i've seen so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498873
Rom: 162.67mb total / around 160mb free;
Ram: 109.07mb total / around 75mb free.
i'm using it now, it's really nice, fast, no memory leak and is great for times like these when there's a new manilla every week.
Hamido123 said:
i was about to go sleep i then i got in my opinoin a great idea and here it is
i was thinking about a theard in which all uptodate rom in ultra light and full tweakt in diffrent languages and a cab colection are avaible
and the xda developers user can download the language he want and choose the applications(attenched cab files) to mix his personal rom
everyone who uses a coocked rom knows what im talkin about the rom has allways an app the user dont really want
and with this theard this problem can be terminated
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It would work but it'd be slower than a current cooked ROM and it would be more bloated in it's use of storage space.
The reason for cooking apps and things into a ROM was explained by dutty - I cannot find the exact post but there is something to do with compression and space saving. An example given was where you cook in (don't quote me on this but it was something along these lines) Windows Live Messenger and it only takes up 100kb but if you install it by cab it uses 1.1mb. Thus installing everything by .cab would leave you with a lot less usuable free space.
Not to mention the performance related side of things. A perfect example is the new BETA Manila2. Whilst it's awesome, awesome work by xboxmod and co. It runs like a dog when installed via .cab IMHO and I've tried it on at least 5 ROMs. Cook it in and it runs like a dream. Memory (RAM) usage is not too much higher than the original Manila.
They are the main reasons apps and things are cooked in.
sounds good except "full tweaked" - full tweaked --> i.e. tweak.cab
and the cabs have to be oem'able i.e. by cab2oem.
on diamond there was fully of tweakies and the most tweakies are not for all people a tweak. i.e. faster touch scrolling. i hate this but for other people is a good tweaky.
I've been thinking about something similar to this idea, but to save on the space lost by using cabs rather than OEMs, it's a far simpler "plugin" kitchen, with a very simple GUI.
You check some boxes, and hit build and it builds the ROM with nothing else going on, so it's possible for everyone to do.
When an update like a new Manila comes along, it would be available as an OEM pack that could simple be slotted into the kitchen and then a new ROM could be built.
There could also be some provision for generating things like email/wifi settings in provxml files so when you flash the ROM everything is good to go including your email accounts...
This is a little project I've been working on slowly, and so doesn't do very much, but when I get the time to, I'll make it work, and do things. I might even open source it, and make it possible to build for different devices... But that's even more long term....
Isn't this what the people over at PPCKitchen.org have been working on? Just asking...
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Isn't this what the people over at PPCKitchen.org have been working on? Just asking...
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Yes...
I respect there work, I just personally don't like the way they've done it, as it only very rarely works for me, and it's not quite as easy to use as I'd like... And it's not the easiest to expand...
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!
EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...
Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
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ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!
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thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!
thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,
Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!
Hi, can anyone explain the reasons why a ROMs RAM usage is high?
For example, the ROM I am currently using is up at 90%. After a reboot its around 75% and it doesnt take long to get up to 90%. If I use free RAM on level 1 it tells me "No change". If I use level 2 then it ruins touch flow 3d and I need to reboot.
I only need more RAM to run applications, but my idea is that regardless of the applications installed, if none are running then the RAM usage shouldnt be that high.. ? For example, you could install loads of stuff on your windows XP machine, but RAM only gets used when you load the applications right... ?
I have run task manager, and in the order of most RAM usage here are the things running currently at 92% RAM
gwes.exe 24394 kb
cprog.exe 7920 kb
device.exe 3658 kb
manilla.exe 3553 kb
shell32.exe 2705 kb
services.exe 2686 kb
filesys.exe 2289 kb
dotTaskMgr.exe 97 kb
connmgr.exe 96 kb
tmail.exe 45 kb
SAPSettings.exe 1 kb
NK.EXE 1 kb
total 47445 kb (or almost 50mb of RAM)
Now, I know that manilla consumes WAY more ram than titanium. But I prefer manilla!
Does any ROM cookers give me a brief understanding of why certain ROMS use more RAM than others?
I've even gone as far as changing the theme but to be honest I dont think it made any difference..
I am a complete N00b but I like to read and use google so if people can give me some direction I will go away and do some research!
Thanks!
BUMP...
Can anyone show me the light?
WinMo 6.5 is also more RAM-hungry than 6.1.
which Page Pool does ur ROM have?
i think it is set to 0 !
change it to 12 or 16
WBR
Siemens Lover
Hi Guys!! Thanks for both your replies. So I googled about the page pool as I had heard this mentioned before. It's a little like virtual memory on PC's right?
So I used the page pool changer to tell me what my rom has as it's pagepool and from what I can tell, I have 8mb.. Do you agree? I've attached a screenshot.
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Yea I understand! Do you know why it gradually increases the ram usage up to over 90% though?
try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)
there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps
benko286 said:
try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)
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Thanks Benko!! I will try and see how it goes
makeveral said:
there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps
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I don't mind taking ROMs apart and playing with things. I would like to learn how to cook
Thanks for the App.
Defiantly agree with the OP.
I had NRG's Rom installed, and I'll say he manila and titanium on his ROM is mega fast. Every animation is so fluent, so much eye kandy and hi-res icons...
Was perfect...
Till I started to actually use programs that couldn't even start. I was on mainila looking at photos, and hit 'album' but cant open the album. can't use the camera.couldn't play games or anything..
currently on Benkos full ROM, is a little buggy, animations aren't so fluid but usally are fine however am pleased i can actually use programs.
I could NOT use manila but same as OP, I prefer it.. I'm keen on the later versions which have colour icons on the slider etc... Not so keen on titanium but i prefer everything else on 6.5. I'm wondering if I really need to use 6.5 as it does use a whole lot more RAM than 6.1
Think about it... what are the real differences between WM 6.1 and 6.5? Do you really need the 6.5 start menu? Titanium? WM Slide to unlock?
The problem about the WM6.5 is the graphics and windows event service (gwes). It consumes to much RAM. Phones with 128MB RAM are made to run WM6.1
Try this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565243&highlight=akeo
It is stable, fast, a lot of free RAM and very clean. And if you still need more RAM, just try to disable TF3D and tachi phone canvas. You are going to get 38% used RAM after boot. I installed IphoneToday 1.2.5 (very lightweight and fast) and S2U2. After boot I still get ~40% of used RAM (~70MB free RAM).
I'm pretty sure I need WM6.5... After using 6.1 for a whole year and getting frustrated at the little things, like looking through phone contacts, dragging the list up a tiny bit and then the phone automatically scrolling all through my 200 contacts to the bottom.. then if I tried to go back, I would end up right back at the start. WM6.5 fixes all the things that either I hated, didnt work in 6.1 or both.
I'm learning how to cook now so I can just build a ROM that I'll use for myself.
WM6.5 isn't really much but ram-hungry, eyecandy graphics. The scrolling is improved, that's correct, but with Sense 2.5 (newest Manila) you will barely need to use the old scrolling of WM6.1 as most stuff is integrated. I can warmly recommend Kisja's WM 6.1 with Sense 2.5, although you might wanna wait for the final release (in RC1 now).
The reason for your high RAM usage is mostly graphics - phone canvas, Manila and some WM6.5 graphics. The more tabs in Manila you open, the more RAM it uses. The WM6.5 screenlock also consumes alot of RAM. In addition, there are (and will always be) some memory leaks in WM. Don't ask me why, it just is like that. Therefore you need to use RAMsweeper, cleanRAM or other cleaners every once in a while.
I recommend you to disable the WM6.5 screenlock and use either the old WM or TouchLockPro which is a great piece of software.
I have to agree with the topic.
I've been searching for a good Diamond rom, but can't seem to find one.
I personally don't care about the OS on my phone. 6.1 seems to work well enough.
I do want manilla 2.5 though. It looks better and it's really easy to use with the finger buttons.
Maybe someone could help me out.
I am looking for the following rom:
- Manilla 2.5
- Ability to switch automatic to landscape in; Manilla, contacts and texting windows (don't care about the rest but it would be nice)
- Fast and stable. So for daily use.
- Not to heavy on RAM. I still want to be able to use all my apps.
- CLEAN.
Things I don't care about:
- OS. 6.1 or 6.5 both are welcome
- Playing music.
- Extra apps except for the essentials.
- Enhanced looks. Plain HTC black works fine.
So; clean, fast, stable, RAM friendly and manilla 2.5.
A rom for standard daily usage. Calling, browsing contacts, texting, maybe browsing the web every now and then AND using GPS on SOME occasions.
This is WAY to much to ask for a Diamond rom. But maybe someone could help a guy out.
This one is nice, stable & fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567949