anyone have it care to comment?
How much I want it?
I ended up going with the MEX-BT2500. It seems like it has all the goodies I'm looking for.. Only $129!!! for Bluetooth hands-free/a2dp streaming... mp3 cd's and all those other formats... and satellite interface hookup... and the add-on XM tuner was like 29.99 after rebates and discounts... wooh!
Hope it doesn't suck ... lol
I've had a MEX-BT5000 for more than a year now, and have used it with both Wizard & Kaiser devices. Its handsfree performance is very good; better than any headset I've used. BT stereo performance is pretty good. I've had some problems with multiple programs using BT audio (e.g. nav & streaming audio), but I think that's more of a WM/device problem.
What a frustrating zoo this has been... I ended up having to cancel the order for the 2500 and go with the MEX-BT5000 instead... the 2500 didn't have any preamp outputs! That simply won't do...
Liked the BT5100 but apparently there are no firmware updates for the XM Radio adapter yet... I still need my XM as primary source of music because streaming just really isn't all that reliable all the time due to network coverage while driving...
Hope the BT5000 is good.. got it for $199 plus shipping so not too bad.
****mrvanx said:
I had one, it was nice. Now I have a JVC KD-AVX33 that's leaps and bounds better!
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leaps and bounds better in what area?
EDIT:
ahh nevermind that thing is like twice the cost lol... was looking for something in a lower price range that had all the functionality I was looking for.
I heard that WP7 didn't support WMA Lossless... Is that true?
Here you have a list of supported codecs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff462087(v=VS.92).aspx
Thank you very much~ Not easy to understand...
Strange that it supports WMA-10Pro for video audio but not music audio.
Hey
i've just tried it in the WP7 Emulator (sadly i don't have a WP7 yet :-( ). I encoded a CD with the WMA lossless optione, and streamed it via a local webserver to the emulator... Worked like a charm
TL;DR: WMA Lossless should work on WP7
Regards
Chris
ChrisKringel said:
Hey
i've just tried it in the WP7 Emulator (sadly i don't have a WP7 yet :-( ). I encoded a CD with the WMA lossless optione, and streamed it via a local webserver to the emulator... Worked like a charm
TL;DR: WMA Lossless should work on WP7
Regards
Chris
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Thank you very much! But if you drag a WMA Lossless via Zune, it will be transcoded to a lossy WMA...
BoomerCE said:
Thank you very much! But if you drag a WMA Lossless via Zune, it will be transcoded to a lossy WMA...
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In case you haven't done this yet, with your phone connected, go into phone settings > conversion settings and select "Only convert media files that aren't supported by this device".
If it converts them then, they aren't compatible.
Even if it supports lossless, which gets rid of the small and perhaps inaudible differences resulting from lossy compression, it will insert very audible gaps between tracks.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...k/d87ef8f3-d528-4d3b-bbcb-58e2d5934bb1?page=1
I think there is no chance for Zune on WP7 to be suitable for serious music playback. It just doesn't cater to this market. Only by allowing other software access to music files (via file system access) will WP7 be usable for music-lovers.
i just found out that the zune software was converting all my wma lossless files to mp3s before it put them on my lumia 900. I was very pro WP before this **** happened, i'm still in shock, and now i'm thinking about buying the new iphone, whenever it comes out and getting rid of this. this phone and mobile OS just lost so much of my respect.
Are you serious?!
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i just found out that the zune software was converting all my wma lossless files to mp3s before it put them on my lumia 900. I was very pro WP before this **** happened, i'm still in shock, and now i'm thinking about buying the new iphone, whenever it comes out and getting rid of this. this phone and mobile OS just lost so much of my respect.
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Unstable much?
So because YOU neglected to set your options before you transferred a ton of music you have decided to go over to iOS?! Let us know how itunes works out.
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If you like apple just say you like apple. We can respect that. We may not understand it but we can respect it. Just don't feed us this baloney.
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i just found out that the zune software was converting all my wma lossless files to mp3s before it put them on my lumia 900. I was very pro WP before this **** happened, i'm still in shock, and now i'm thinking about buying the new iphone, whenever it comes out and getting rid of this. this phone and mobile OS just lost so much of my respect.
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Before you switch to the iPhone you should know that the iPhone doesn't even support WMA. iTunes definetly will convert them. Besides that, lossless audio on mobile devices desn't make sense at all. It is a waste of disk space and the on board audio processors won't even fullfill the lossless quality.
iPhone still sucks for music. If you really care about sound quality and you enjoy lossless music you should get a dedicated device, everything else will lead to a lesser experience. So called "audiophiles" using iPhones make me laugh. But if having an Apple emblem on the back of your phone gives you a nice placebo effect then good for you.
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slaydemon said:
i just found out that the zune software was converting all my wma lossless files to mp3s before it put them on my lumia 900. I was very pro WP before this **** happened, i'm still in shock, and now i'm thinking about buying the new iphone, whenever it comes out and getting rid of this. this phone and mobile OS just lost so much of my respect.
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I have a dream... I'd like to make a real test for these "audiophiles", "golden cable lovers" and "haters"... Connect a certain amount of handsets (WP7, iPhone, Android) plus specialized audio players (iPod, Sansa etc.) to the good receiver, put on headphones to the "audiophile"-tester (a good, expensive ones), and start playing the same (MP3-encoded with 320 bps rate, and in loseless format) song on all devices (but the tester shouldn't know which device he's listening right now), and start switching audio inputs and ask him: "Which device is playing RIGHT NOW?!" or "Is it MP3 or loseless?!"
Each time he's mistaken, he should receive a good birch-rod punch on his ass - this be a real shock! (no, I'm not a flagellant but they MUST get something for their "knowledge" and self-conceit! )
P.S. And I'm a good person: each time he'll be (accidentally) right, he will receive a strawberry flavored stinking candy (kinda malls are offering for free)
slaydemon said:
i just found out that the zune software was converting all my wma lossless files to mp3s before it put them on my lumia 900. I was very pro WP before this **** happened, i'm still in shock, and now i'm thinking about buying the new iphone, whenever it comes out and getting rid of this. this phone and mobile OS just lost so much of my respect.
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Well I hate to break it to you but when you goto iTunes you will face the same thing if not worse. The iPhone or any apple device for that matter does not support .wma playback at all and everything else is converted to apples proprietary format before being transferred over.
If you want lossless quality music you can buy an HTC WP and then enable the SRS enhancements. With this enabled you get surround sound, enhanced bass,mids and highs. It also supposedly restores lost information from compressed files.
sensboston said:
I have a dream... I'd like to make a real test for these "audiophiles", "golden cable lovers" and "haters"... Connect a certain amount of handsets (WP7, iPhone, Android) plus specialized audio players (iPod, Sansa etc.) to the good receiver, put on headphones to the "audiophile"-tester (a good, expensive ones), and start playing the same (MP3-encoded with 320 bps rate, and in loseless format) song on all devices (but the tester shouldn't know which device he's listening right now), and start switching audio inputs and ask him: "Which device is playing RIGHT NOW?!" or "Is it MP3 or loseless?!"
Each time he's mistaken, he should receive a good birch-rod punch on his ass - this be a real shock! (no, I'm not a flagellant but they MUST get something for their "knowledge" and self-conceit! )
P.S. And I'm a good person: each time he'll be (accidentally) right, he will receive a strawberry flavored stinking candy (kinda malls are offering for free)
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Hehe, I know what you mean. Honestly there isn't really a huge difference between 320 kbps mp3s and FLACs. You may notice it when playing with a good equalizer and very low impedance earbuds. With very high impedance ones it's very hard to notice a difference, obviously the volume will be quite low but unless you have some serious crosstalk and overall noise caused by a cheap DAC you won't have to cringe. Personally I use dedicated devices mostly because they sound better regardless what you plug them to, they have decent volume, a good equalizer and great battery life, being able to use lossless formats is just a plus, so why not. Honestly tho the guy right here obviously knows nothing. He was thinking that his old iPhone was using some kind of "magical" and uncompressed audio format, basically because the good old Steve told him so, whereas the Lumia uses "crappy" mp3...good God
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You´re talking about sound quality, and how good the sound quality is, and you are using equalizer? Gimme a break...really...
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Hehe, I know what you mean. Honestly there isn't really a huge difference between 320 kbps mp3s and FLACs.
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Well, there is a significant difference between them to be honest. See for yourself:
This is a mp3:
and this one is a FLAC:
As you can clearly see, mp3's are often leaving out the spectrum between 16 and 24kHz. You can also see some bad spiking. This will impact the quality and dynamics of the music especially on high end devices and for trained audiophiles it is noticeable. As for gold cables, there really is a reason why it is preferably used for high end devices, because it has the best conductivity for electricity and is chemically inert so there is no disturbance due to oxidation.
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You´re talking about sound quality, and how good the sound quality is, and you are using equalizer? Gimme a break...really...
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Yes, why not? Ever tried a good one on good hardware? It's really essential in order to keep your experience consistent throughout the different type of headsets/earbuds you'll be using. I'm not talking about crappy software based equalizers you get in like PlayerPro for Android and such, those ruin an already poor signal, you souldn't bother messing with those.
@morpheuszg: There is a difference, I don't deny that, however it's not always easy to perceive, especially if the bitrate of the mp3 is constant. Also, try to listen to Search And Destroy by Iggy & The Stooges, from Raw Power: the sound is already crippled and distorted "out of the box", if you get what I mean, regardless the format
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Well, there is a significant difference between them to be honest. See for yourself:
This is a mp3:
and this one is a FLAC:
As you can clearly see, mp3's are often leaving out the spectrum between 16 and 24kHz. You can also see some bad spiking. This will impact the quality and dynamics of the music especially on high end devices and for trained audiophiles it is noticeable. As for gold cables, there really is a reason why it is preferably used for high end devices, because it has the best conductivity for electricity and is chemically inert so there is no disturbance due to oxidation.
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We are already VERY aware of the differences between mp3 and FLAC. The point that is attempting to be made is that most audio players aren't able to deliver on the improved quality of FLAC. Lossless audio is great when you have the player and speakers to match. It's likely that you cannot hear the difference between FLAC and high-quality mp3 on a mobile device using earbuds.
iPhone? I hardly consider it a top quality audio player. iTunes? pretty sucky, too. If you're this obsessed with lossless audio, and you are truly discerning enough to notice the differences, you should get a dedicated device like the Cowon or something.
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We are already VERY aware of the differences between mp3 and FLAC. The point that is attempting to be made is that most audio players aren't able to deliver on the improved quality of FLAC. Lossless audio is great when you have the player and speakers to match. It's likely that you cannot hear the difference between FLAC and high-quality mp3 on a mobile device using earbuds.
iPhone? I hardly consider it a top quality audio player. iTunes? pretty sucky, too. If you're this obsessed with lossless audio, and you are truly discerning enough to notice the differences, you should get a dedicated device like the Cowon or something.
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Yep, this is true. And that's why I think lossless files are a waste of space on mobile phones. And that HTC Beats thingy is not that good either. As for the iPhone, it really isn't a good player especially with it's standard headphones. So many people do like them but I find them quite lousy against Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic etc.
hi guys,
can someone tell me is this mobile good for listening to music ??
hows the battery on it ??
and would you rather pick xperia arc or arc s for this purpose??
thanks a lot,
as far as i know..
Arc is a for business mobile..
but if u want to have a good music player, you can download powerAMP or playerPro..
but i used playerPro..
about Arc and Arc S for playing music, i think its the same..
There is no difference between Arc and Arc S as far as music is concerned.
Output volume on the headphones is not great, and neither is the stock music player.
However .... if you install Equalizer (free) from the market you can boost frequencies up to 15db which helps, and also Player Pro with the DSP pack lets you customize even more.
It's not quite as good as the Galaxy S with Voodoo sound or the Sansa Clip+ for example, but certainly with a bit of tweaking it's more than capable for day to day listening.
I can't talk for the Arc, however the Arc S battery is fantastic!
Keith
Battery whilst playing music is good, not much impact on battery life. In terms of quality, its good. Output is a bit lower than optimum, but by no means a deal breaker. SE has customised the music app and imo it looks good, and the widget makes it easy to control playback without going into the application.
Overall, as a music device, you shouldn't be disappointed. Note that it does not natively play back flac files however
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thanks guys for replies
its a second time when someone suggested clip+, after having a chat with my firend im sure she will choose to buy xperia ray dont really understand why but ok ....
once again thanks for help
You're welcome,
Too bad she bought an ray..
Anyway, arc is better.
Have a nice day
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