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Which Sense ROM boots fastest and is the most stable?

Hi there,
I've been using Froyo 2.2 for some time but had some SD Card issues (Unexpected SD Card removal) and decided to check if flashing a new ROM will do any good. I've installed Cyanogen Mod 7 but after using it for half a day I wanted stock Sense back so flashed AuraxTSense v8.3. It looks nice, works quite fast at the beginning (and not knowing why it becomes slower after some time - observed during mass sms deletion) but boots ~7 mins - that's way tooooo long. Which one should I try next? Or maybe there is something wrong I've done while flashing? Wiped everything but dalvik before flashing.

LeeDroid's i believe is the best sense rom.
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Boots 7 MINS?
For the first time or always?
Because if you install anew ROM, it will take some time to rebulid the cache and get ready, so 7 mins at the first boot is normal.
But if it boots 7 mins always, you've done something wrong.
Also LeeDroid is fast. Boots up very quickly - at least for me it did.

Indeed it boots slower than Leedroid, but not 7 minutes. Both are good ROMs, but the current (and some of the previous) version of ROM has some memory leaks reported from some users including me. I switched to Aura in hope to find remedy for this, and been good so far.
Also both have issues with the Internet app, googling freezes the browser and it force closes itself after a minute.
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yeah, it was first boot, other took something like 3-4 minutes, and that's still too long :/
what if my Desire is S-On even if I have rooted it with Unrevoked? also, Hboot is 0.93. does it make any difference when trying to flash different roms?
EDIT:
ok, trying to flash LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD, will see how long will it take.
EDIT2:
16 mins of first boot, keep fingers crossed for my problems with unexpected SD removal

I've flashed LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD for the second time and there's no A2SD actually!! or I'am so tired that I can't find settings to force apps to install in SD. all apps install in internal storage and only some can be moved to SD... sooooooo annoying, it's 3:50 am here and I am so fuc*ing tired but have to have phone fully working today :/ aaaaargh!!!!

ReflexTSense HD is pretty nice and fast

got it on SD too so I'll probably try it now as AuraxTSense had A2SD brilliantly working.

How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Apps2sd is working perfect in leedroid. Your reading is what fails.
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with regard to first boot im always pleasantly surprised with AOSP roms esp Oxygen and Gingervillain ...they boot very fast and have gprs configured and working from the very beginning !
GV booted really fast for me.
stability is another issue
oops sorry - i read the title of the thread properly now....you meant sense roms....please ignore
leedroid roms do not take too long to boot. ap2sd feature work 100 percent..i guess the no ap2sd rom would boot up faster than the one with.

starburst is the best so far av got 700mb internal memory and rom is super fast

ok guys, it was my mistake (or rather lack of knowledge), so I'm coming back to LeeDroid. but will try No-A2SD first because I think those SD Card issues are not gone so moving Dalvik to SD would be risky.

A2SD+ and HD Roms

I flashed some HD Roms (Pay's ROM, RCSMixHD, The Z Rom etc) one by one, and each one of them claimed A2SD+ or Data2ext. Also they had fastboot shown in the intro video.
1) In any of those 3 ROMs, I didn't get more than 110MB internal storage, which I had got in StarBurst ROM (not HD) = 1.25GB. Now only 110MB? Now where did my ext partition go? [still a noob at android modding! help!]
2) Is it something like it doesn't "show" it as internal memory, but works all right?
3) What do I need to do in order to get data2ext/A2SD+ working? I followed all instructions correctly, incl partitioning etc.
4) Also none of them gave me a fast boot (like it was shown in one of the videos under RCSMixHD ROM), will I ever get it?
Thanks in adv. Need help. Meanwhile m with 105MB internal memory (which would end in 2-3 days )

Your A2SD+ problem does not exist, the internal memory will show the same as always but it won't decreas as fast. Just try it with angry birds or some other big app. Also don't move them to the sd via manage applications, they need to be on the phone. If you want more info on how A2SD+ really works there are plenty of threads explaining that or this.
And fastboot is hibernation and it should be in the power off menu.
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Hmm, about the first thing, I tried it, and yeah so it doesn't "show" it as internal memory, though works all right.
Help! Whenever I use Hibernate, my phone doesn't boot up next. Just stays on htc logo if I hibernate it! Do I need a reflash?

A2SD is stupid and I don't get it either. I just flashed another Hboot image to increase my data partition. Also, I don't want my SD card doing much working and using useless space.

@GoogleJelly
You made it already clear that you are a big fan of S-off and alternativ hboots, but for people who like the sense rom or people are not comfortable S-offing changing hboot is not a option. For them A2SD is a good solution and I can't see how you can be bothered by it.
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TheGhost1233 said:
@GoogleJelly
You made it already clear that you are a big fan of S-off and alternativ hboots, but for people who like the sense rom or people are not comfortable S-offing changing hboot is not a option. For them A2SD is a good solution and I can't see how you can be bothered by it.
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This. Plus a2sd+ is far more convenient than s-off and offers far more space. What if memory card wears out after a while? Even if it was as fast process as it seems you think it is, it is not like they cost a fortune.
data2ext is better than a2sd+ is definitely better than changing your hboot image just to install more apps. Or brick your device in the process
Sorry mate, but that is just plain ridiculous.
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i use the D2EXT version of RCSMix HD rom and it shows that i have 961mb of internel memory... don't know why the A2SD don't show that.

It's not good stressing out your SD Card. Especially when you have Data2SD since it puts more than just apps on your SD Card. Yeh SD cards don't cost that much but when you buying one more often that you need because your SD card has become messed up because of the constant usage it's getting, I am sure it isn't the best thing in the world. I also see more problems that people have with A2SD and Data2SD and I actually wonder if it is worth it at all.

[Q] Low on storage

Hello all,
I'm just a beginner who is starting to get his head around things after reading a lot on this forum.
I have rooted my HTC Desire a few days ago following the video tutorial on the development section of the forum on all its steps. I then flashed RevolutionN 3D 1.5 ROM which i think is great after trying a couple that weren't so fast and smooth.
Before flashing the Revolution ROM i formatted my 4GB SD card (which has 1GB ext4 partition), did a full factoy reset, cleared Dalvik cache. However i'm finding myself with as little as 40MB of internal storage available which i have filled up very quickly.
What am i doing wrong?
I thought i was going to have plenty more of space, that's why i rooted the phone in the first place.
Can someone would be so kind to help with this please?
Thanks in advance

To have the phone rooted so that we can flash a custom ROM.
To have more data space, we have to s-off the phone and then flash a new hboot such as CM7R2 or Data++ and so on.
Never try that ROM but I notice that there are two kinds, one is for data++ (for CM7R2, Data++ hboot) and a2sd+ for stock hboot like what you have now.
Do you flash the right a2sd+ ROM ?

I have just checked and i flashed the Data++ ROM....
thanks for pointing that out...i didn't realize it was so simple
im going to flash the new A2SD+ and let you know
Thanks

After flashing the a2sd+ i have more than 100MB of space
thanks for your help!!

Hopefully 100MB is enough for you.. For some people even 1 GB aint enough!

Hello I have also problem with the low space. Think that all desire users have... I have the stock rom, version 2.3 and unroot the rom. I had 140mb space. I installed lot of apps and moved all the apps to sd card. But even you move the app to sd card, the phone memory always used and now my phone memory is very low. What are the alternatives to get more space. Is it possible to move the apps to sd card for 100%

Search for A2SD+ and DATA2SD.

M.Ozturk said:
Is it possible to move the apps to sd card for 100%
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Only with DATA2SD. Otherwise your app data will remain on internal memory decreasing it over time.
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Running out of internal memory? Fix with Data2SD

Had my Desire for nearly a year and I cannot remember the number of ROM's I've tried! CyanogenMod 7 is still a favourite, as is Runnymede 4.0.1 however for pure speed and great battey life an AOSP GB ROM like Oxygen can't be beaten. I'm currently using MildWild 2.2.2 ICS themed Oxygen based ROM with one small addition - Data2SD.
Using a Stock HTC or Ginger Bread ROM usually leaves you with about 124mb of internal memory regardless of the size of SD card you have. Trust me; once you've installed about 20 normal Apps (Google Maps, a few games etc) you'll get the message 'Internal Memory Low'.
A great dev by the name of sibere came up with a great script for the desire - Dat2SD. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219
This moves the internal storage to the SD card allowing for up to 2GB of internal storage!!!
So on my Desire currently I have 140 Apps including ROM included Apps like Calendar, Calculator, Radio, etc and 3rd Party Apps like Fifa 12 & GTA III. Total Storage space is 1.97GB and Free space is 1.64GB! SD card Total Space is 12.98GB with available space 10.12GB. The SD card space is for things like music, pictures and USB storage and downloads.
Installation and setup is quite straight forward with most ROM's - AOSP and Sense based ROM's can both handle Data2SD. And as far as performance - hardly and lags or FC's on any ROM's I've tried.
Thanks to Sibere for all his work.

If it wasn't for this great data2sd are desire would be nothing. I used a couple data2sd methods and I find the one works best if you have cm7/r2 Hboot this keeps dalvik cache on really nand. In dew section we have another great dev working on another way and if it all works out we will be seeing some great sense 3.0 plus roms.
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shankly1985 said:
If it wasn't for this great data2sd are desire would be nothing.
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I would reconsider that

erklat said:
I would reconsider that
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It's true tho just think If you had to put up with 150mb data. You would be for ever uninstalling apps for free space.
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shankly1985 said:
It's true tho just think If you had to put up with 150mb data. You would be for ever uninstalling apps for free space.
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Data2sd is great and packed in Droidzone's great rom is idiotproof, but there are other methods. Check my sig. I have more apps than I definitely need and I don't plan on running out of space anytime soon.

erklat said:
Data2sd is great and packed in Droidzone's great rom is idiotproof, but there are other methods. Check my sig. I have more apps than I definitely need and I don't plan on running out of space anytime soon.
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lol You getting mixed up I mean has a hole. Data2sd/data2ext Am using xd2sdx by amarullz witch is the best I have used to date. Sibere is also great. I didn't mead just one persons data2sd was best.

First off: sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I find out, which class my sdcard has?
Secondly: Do I need to repartition my sdcard for all of these scripts or are there some that just work with a folder of some sort?
Actually I don't need much more space, as long as I can work with a ROM that fits in data++ ... and I managed to get ICS working with that now
Thank you!

smlgbl said:
First off: sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I find out, which class my sdcard has?
Secondly: Do I need to repartition my sdcard for all of these scripts or are there some that just work with a folder of some sort?
Actually I don't need much more space, as long as I can work with a ROM that fits in data++ ... and I managed to get ICS working with that now
Thank you!
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On SD card you will see a number 4,6,10 if they is no number its a class 2. For partition you will need to read the Rom thread and see what they require, most is a FAT32 with ext4.
They is a couple different types of data2sd if you click the desire index link in my sig and scroll down to section (how to get more storage) you'll see what's on offer.

Thank you.
I guess it's slow card then. I don't really want to repartition my sdcard, because then I have to move everything to my pc ... aso ... aso. and I try to keep my phone clean anyway. With switching back and forth between Oxygen and ICS/sandvold it's anyway useless having to reinstall many apps...

Random freezes - Checklist? Recommend a ROM?

Hi
I set my desire up with the supernova rom but had to ditch it after a couple of days due to very frequent random freezes. (data2sd)
Now I've got Leedroid 3.0.8.2 and that's giving me random freezes though to a much lesser extent.(a2sd+)
The Rom before I used Oxygen with no A2SD and this gave me no crashes but I desperately need the space due to my works email taking up all my storage!
So basically I wonder what I should do next. Is there anything I could try to fix my current setup. Is it worth reflashing? What's the likely culprit for the pull battery freezes?
My SD Card is a class 4 sandisk 8gb.
Alternatively I need a ROM which has
Very Stable!
A2SD+
Sense (Any version) OR…
Equivalent to 'Lock phone after' in Screen Unlock dialog*
*My work requires a PIN but the above dialog stops the pin being required if I have used the phone within 5 minutes!
I'm not bothered about the latest sense or loads of bells and whistles.
Thanks for any help!

Check Runnymede AIO.

I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
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I got a class 6 4gb ad and I tried several ROM all with the CM7 and 1gb part.
I experienced just 1 freeze with the insert coin.
My old sd just burned out on the cool3d
Now I'm on revolution, pretty much visual stunning but have bugs on fast boot
Is cm7 extending the memory as you want?

Dallatorre said:
I got a class 6 4gb ad and I tried several ROM all with the CM7 and 1gb part.
I experienced just 1 freeze with the insert coin.
My old sd just burned out on the cool3d
Now I'm on revolution, pretty much visual stunning but have bugs on fast boot
Is cm7 extending the memory as you want?
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Try the rom and kernel from my signature. IMHO the best rom for desire.

erklat said:
I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
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Sorry to jump in here, but I had issues along the lines of the OP, your post caught my eye.
I went from an 8GB card to a 16GB card and my Desire would freeze at least twice per day. It sometimes went a whole day, but when I woke up, it would have crashed, always required a battery out and in to fix.
Went back to my 8GB card yesterday and its been fine since!
Is partitioning required to solve this? Would love to go back to my 16GB card!
Cheers

Check your sd card, if not - ask sandvold he lost one this way. Can be a NAND bug.
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Likely to be a problem with the SD card; as others have said, re-format is a good place to start. Personally I'm enjoying the MildWild ROM (3.2). Can't find a lock phone after xx option though, sorry. It's very quick and seems very stable.

erklat said:
I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
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Yeah people try this one first. Sd cards can go bonkers sometimes and a fresh repartition/format can do wonders.
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just like everyone else has said...repartition your sd...now for the second question I recommend using AN-droid 2.1.0 for a new rom....its stock GB, fast, smooth and really responsive...hope it helps bud...
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If you're looking for stable and fast ROM with a2sd method, I'll recommend you CyanogenMod 7.1 with int2sd script. It's really fast and works fine on most popular HBOOTS (stock, data++, CM7 r2).
Remember the order of flashing!
first: cyanogenmod 7.1
then: gapps
and after that: INT2SD

I have MildWild on my HTC Desire, its small enough to fit on the Internal Storage and give you approx 240mb for data/apps or it can be installed on EXT4 SD card partition.